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BREXIT means Royston Vasey BREXITTGOHF said:
lets face it - she could have announced a new bypass for Royston Vasey and the remainers would have taken offence at it for an unfounded attack on their patriotism.Scott_P said:
She wasn't though.Sandpit said:The PM was referring to the Philip Greens and the Richard Bransons, the Googles and the Facebooks who make huge amounts of money from the UK yet manage to pay very little in taxes.
Read the speech. The line has no connection to any of the text around it.
It could have been preceded with "Bananas will no longer be straight" and followed by "British passports will be blue" and it would have made as much sense. In fact that would have got a bigger cheer0 -
Back on topic and the QMUL poll breaks down the numbers between Inner and Outer London giving labour a 67-17 lead over the Conservatives in Inner London and a 47-34 lead in Outer London.
The swing to Labour is therefore much greater in Inner than Outer London and suggests the Conservatives could struggle to hold both Wandsworth and Westminster but should be fine in places like Bexley and Hillingdon.
The LDs are polling close to their 2014 numbers but doing better in Outer than Inner London so that raises the prospects of taking both Kingston and Richmond from the Conservatives.0 -
Fixed it now, ta.stodge said:Afternoon all
THE FIGURES IN THE TITLE OF THE THREAD ARE INCORRECT !!
http://www.qmul.ac.uk/media/news/2018/hss/conservatives-heading-for-defeat-in-at-least-three-flagship-london-boroughs-in-forthcoming-local-elections-.html
The data tables are here:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/r3f9udshnu97w0y/QueenMary_LondonResults_Feb18_VI.pdf?dl=0
The figures for the GE and local elections need to be transposed.0 -
Thank You OGH. Thought this was worth getting right.0
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Baxter, current boundaries:bigjohnowls said:Westminster voting intention:
LAB: 43% (+3)
CON: 42% (+1)
LDEM: 7% (-1)
UKIP: 3% (-1)
GRN: 2% (-1)
via @ICMResearch
Commie Spy bounce
Lab 294
Con 293
LD 12
SNP 29
Baxter, new boundaries:
Con 287
Lab 256
LD 6
SNP 310 -
I’m one of those who’s a Brit abroad making his way somewhere else in the world. That’s not who she was getting at.TheScreamingEagles said:
But it was this bit just before it that irked manySandpit said:
The PM was referring to the Philip Greens and the Richard Bransons, the Googles and the Facebooks who make huge amounts of money from the UK yet manage to pay very little in taxes.Scott_P said:
BollocksRichard_Nabavi said:'Citizens of nowhere' referred to people who don't pay their taxes.
And she was completely right.
if you believe you’re a citizen of the world, you’re a citizen of nowhere. You don’t understand what the very word ‘citizenship’ means.
For those of us who are very proud of our Britishness but have a very internationalist outlook it jarred very badly.
The fact I said at the time it had echoes of 'rootless cosmopolitans' was not an auspicious saying.
Mrs May was highlighting individuals and companies who are making huge amounts of money in Britain but not paying taxes there. She was right to do so.
One of the massive positives from a no-deal brexit is that Google and Facebook will have to have British companies paying British taxes to the satisfaction of British tax inspectors.0 -
Good job there will be no new boundariesAndyJS said:
Baxter, current boundaries:bigjohnowls said:Westminster voting intention:
LAB: 43% (+3)
CON: 42% (+1)
LDEM: 7% (-1)
UKIP: 3% (-1)
GRN: 2% (-1)
via @ICMResearch
Commie Spy bounce
Lab 294
Con 293
LD 12
SNP 29
Baxter, new boundaries:
Con 287
Lab 256
LD 6
SNP 31
Surely you mean
Commie Spy party 2940 -
Interesting that the Conservatives do better among both black and white working class voters than among their middle class counterparts.AlastairMeeks said:0 -
Corbyn isn't anywhere near a majority, so do you see a rainbow coalition of Labour, SNP, Plaid Cymru and the Greens? Not sure what Vince Cable would do.bigjohnowls said:
Good job there will be no new boundariesAndyJS said:
Baxter, current boundaries:bigjohnowls said:Westminster voting intention:
LAB: 43% (+3)
CON: 42% (+1)
LDEM: 7% (-1)
UKIP: 3% (-1)
GRN: 2% (-1)
via @ICMResearch
Commie Spy bounce
Lab 294
Con 293
LD 12
SNP 29
Baxter, new boundaries:
Con 287
Lab 256
LD 6
SNP 31
Surely you mean
Commie Spy party 2940 -
Funnily enough, I would go the opposite way from the respondents in the survey. I expect Labour would negotiate a better Brexit deal and would be at least as good at protecting the country from threats. The Tory Brexit threat to the economy is probably greater than the Labour Venezuela one (the first is likely, while the second may never happen). I expect Labour to mismanage public services.TheScreamingEagles said:0
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London is clearly going the same way as New York, Chicago, Washington DC, Los Angeles, etc, where the Democrats usually get between 70% and 90%.stodge said:Back on topic and the QMUL poll breaks down the numbers between Inner and Outer London giving labour a 67-17 lead over the Conservatives in Inner London and a 47-34 lead in Outer London.
The swing to Labour is therefore much greater in Inner than Outer London and suggests the Conservatives could struggle to hold both Wandsworth and Westminster but should be fine in places like Bexley and Hillingdon.
The LDs are polling close to their 2014 numbers but doing better in Outer than Inner London so that raises the prospects of taking both Kingston and Richmond from the Conservatives.0 -
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He wouldn't have to give supply to Corbyn on those numbers so I expect he wouldn't. He can't take the Tories over the line on his own either.AndyJS said:
Corbyn isn't anywhere near a majority, so do you see a rainbow coalition of Labour, SNP, Plaid Cymru and the Greens? Not sure what Vince Cable would do.bigjohnowls said:
Good job there will be no new boundariesAndyJS said:
Baxter, current boundaries:bigjohnowls said:Westminster voting intention:
LAB: 43% (+3)
CON: 42% (+1)
LDEM: 7% (-1)
UKIP: 3% (-1)
GRN: 2% (-1)
via @ICMResearch
Commie Spy bounce
Lab 294
Con 293
LD 12
SNP 29
Baxter, new boundaries:
Con 287
Lab 256
LD 6
SNP 31
Surely you mean
Commie Spy party 294
Oppose Corbyn's Queen speech but state the Lib Dems will vote as they see fit on a "vote by vote" basis.0 -
Is that London or Alabama?AlastairMeeks said:0 -
I would seriously doubt any Brexit scenario where Google and Facebook pay more taxes to the UK Exchequer.Sandpit said:I’m one of those who’s a Brit abroad making his way somewhere else in the world. That’s not who she was getting at.
Mrs May was highlighting individuals and companies who are making huge amounts of money in Britain but not paying taxes there. She was right to do so.
One of the massive positives from a no-deal brexit is that Google and Facebook will have to have British companies paying British taxes to the satisfaction of British tax inspectors.
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Commie Spy Party and SNP would do it presuming the Irish Commie Spy party still not taking their seatsAndyJS said:
Corbyn isn't anywhere near a majority, so do you see a rainbow coalition of Labour, SNP, Plaid Cymru and the Greens? Not sure what Vince Cable would do.bigjohnowls said:
Good job there will be no new boundariesAndyJS said:
Baxter, current boundaries:bigjohnowls said:Westminster voting intention:
LAB: 43% (+3)
CON: 42% (+1)
LDEM: 7% (-1)
UKIP: 3% (-1)
GRN: 2% (-1)
via @ICMResearch
Commie Spy bounce
Lab 294
Con 293
LD 12
SNP 29
Baxter, new boundaries:
Con 287
Lab 256
LD 6
SNP 31
Surely you mean
Commie Spy party 294
Although I do THINK Caroline Lucas is pretty much certain to get a cabinet level post if Jezza is PM0 -
In diverse countries it is quite normal for the electorate to divide on racial, ethnic and religious lines. Why should the U.K. and especially London be any different?
This was pretty clear from the ward-by-ward results of the 2008 London mayoral election. Welcome to the future. I’m sure it’s what Roy Jenkins would have wanted.0 -
Environment Secretary probably, to state the obvious.bigjohnowls said:
Commie Spy Party and SNP would do it presuming the Irish Commie Spy party still not taking their seatsAndyJS said:
Corbyn isn't anywhere near a majority, so do you see a rainbow coalition of Labour, SNP, Plaid Cymru and the Greens? Not sure what Vince Cable would do.bigjohnowls said:
Good job there will be no new boundariesAndyJS said:
Baxter, current boundaries:bigjohnowls said:Westminster voting intention:
LAB: 43% (+3)
CON: 42% (+1)
LDEM: 7% (-1)
UKIP: 3% (-1)
GRN: 2% (-1)
via @ICMResearch
Commie Spy bounce
Lab 294
Con 293
LD 12
SNP 29
Baxter, new boundaries:
Con 287
Lab 256
LD 6
SNP 31
Surely you mean
Commie Spy party 294
Although I do THINK Caroline Lucas is pretty much certain to get a cabinet level post if Jezza is PM0 -
It would be even more interesting to see how those categories relate to age. I know some young white working class people who are way more enthusiastic about Corbyn than I ever remember anyone else being about any other politician. Small dataset of course.Sean_F said:
Interesting that the Conservatives do better among both black and white working class voters than among their middle class counterparts.AlastairMeeks said:0 -
O/T looking at the ONS numbers, as recently as March 2015, we borrowed £91.4bn in the year. This year it will be about £38bn, which is a very rapid rate of improvement.0 -
They are not merely sentient Richard. They are a special class to whose views we are supposed to show respectful deference. Apparently.Richard_Nabavi said:
So are Londoners, by the looks of it. I mean, I take it these are supposed to be sentient beings, right? And they want Corbyn as PM???TheScreamingEagles said:The Tories are doomed in London. DOOMED.
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They could always try coming up with rational policies instead of nationalistic fantasy policies.AlastairMeeks said:
If you and your fellow Conservatives want to start making inroads with these highly educated voters, I suggest that you collectively sharpen up your offering to them. Like, for starters, making sure that none of you call them traitors, saboteurs, citizens of nowhere and such like.Richard_Nabavi said:
It's the fact that he's conned highly educated voters that is most worrying. They'll have a very unpleasant shock if, God forbid, he does ever make it into No 10.glw said:
It's the Trump phenomenon again. Another charlatan who has conned poorly educated voters into thinking he can solve their problems at the drop of a hat, when in reality he will make almost everything much worse.Richard_Nabavi said:
So are Londoners, by the looks of it. I mean, I take it these are supposed to be sentient beings, right? And they want Corbyn as PM???TheScreamingEagles said:The Tories are doomed in London. DOOMED.
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KFC lovers are being urged not to call the police over the fried chicken "crisis".
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-43140836
Presumably you shouldn't call them if you find pineapple on your pizza, too.
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Despite Brexit...Because of Brexit...We haven't left yet...Sean_F said:
O/T looking at the ONS numbers, as recently as March 2015, we borrowed £91.4bn in the year. This year it will be about £38bn, which is a very rapid rate of improvement.0 -
Emergency calls are reserved only for when you attend a venue that insists on playing live recordings of Radiohead....MarkHopkins said:
KFC lovers are being urged not to call the police over the fried chicken "crisis".
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-43140836
Presumably you shouldn't call them if you find pineapple on your pizza, too.0 -
The implied BAME share for the Lib Dems are also terribleSandyRentool said:
Is that London or Alabama?AlastairMeeks said:0 -
The "chickens" you get served at KFC aren't really chickens at all. They're headless, wingless, clawless, lab-grown organisms, that get fed growth hormones through tubes going down their necks, before they get chucked into the fryer.MarkHopkins said:
KFC lovers are being urged not to call the police over the fried chicken "crisis".
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-43140836
Presumably you shouldn't call them if you find pineapple on your pizza, too.0 -
Baby steps.Beverley_C said:
They could always try coming up with rational policies instead of nationalistic fantasy policies.AlastairMeeks said:
If you and your fellow Conservatives want to start making inroads with these highly educated voters, I suggest that you collectively sharpen up your offering to them. Like, for starters, making sure that none of you call them traitors, saboteurs, citizens of nowhere and such like.Richard_Nabavi said:
It's the fact that he's conned highly educated voters that is most worrying. They'll have a very unpleasant shock if, God forbid, he does ever make it into No 10.glw said:
It's the Trump phenomenon again. Another charlatan who has conned poorly educated voters into thinking he can solve their problems at the drop of a hat, when in reality he will make almost everything much worse.Richard_Nabavi said:
So are Londoners, by the looks of it. I mean, I take it these are supposed to be sentient beings, right? And they want Corbyn as PM???TheScreamingEagles said:The Tories are doomed in London. DOOMED.
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A very solid improvement in the numbers.FrancisUrquhart said:
Despite Brexit...Because of Brexit...We haven't left yet...Sean_F said:
O/T looking at the ONS numbers, as recently as March 2015, we borrowed £91.4bn in the year. This year it will be about £38bn, which is a very rapid rate of improvement.0 -
Every journey starts with a single step AlistairAlastairMeeks said:
Baby steps.Beverley_C said:
They could always try coming up with rational policies instead of nationalistic fantasy policies.AlastairMeeks said:
If you and your fellow Conservatives want to start making inroads with these highly educated voters, I suggest that you collectively sharpen up your offering to them. Like, for starters, making sure that none of you call them traitors, saboteurs, citizens of nowhere and such like.Richard_Nabavi said:
It's the fact that he's conned highly educated voters that is most worrying. They'll have a very unpleasant shock if, God forbid, he does ever make it into No 10.glw said:
It's the Trump phenomenon again. Another charlatan who has conned poorly educated voters into thinking he can solve their problems at the drop of a hat, when in reality he will make almost everything much worse.Richard_Nabavi said:
So are Londoners, by the looks of it. I mean, I take it these are supposed to be sentient beings, right? And they want Corbyn as PM???TheScreamingEagles said:The Tories are doomed in London. DOOMED.
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Are there no Brexit numbers in this ICM poll?0
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Bloody Royals. Republic now.
BREACH OF PROTO-COLE
Brendan Cole sacked from Strictly Come Dancing after breaching protocol by waltzing with Camilla Parker Bowles
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/2259805/brendan-cole-sacked-strictly-dancing-camilla-buckingham-palace/amp/0 -
Anyone stupid enough to do that ought to get a week in jail.MarkHopkins said:
KFC lovers are being urged not to call the police over the fried chicken "crisis".
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-43140836
Presumably you shouldn't call them if you find pineapple on your pizza, too.0 -
The little Tory bounce appears to have been reversed.
In all seriousness I have no idea what caused it in the 1st place or why there is a swingback now.
What do people think is it all just MOE0 -
Mr. Owls, it's all just statistical noise. I wouldn't pay much attention to the polls.0
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Only who would get a good deal on Brexit.williamglenn said:Are there no Brexit numbers in this ICM poll?
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A “No-deal” scenario absolutely results in this, as does any deal with the EU that doesn’t incorporate intangibles such as software and services.FF43 said:
I would seriously doubt any Brexit scenario where Google and Facebook pay more taxes to the UK Exchequer.Sandpit said:I’m one of those who’s a Brit abroad making his way somewhere else in the world. That’s not who she was getting at.
Mrs May was highlighting individuals and companies who are making huge amounts of money in Britain but not paying taxes there. She was right to do so.
One of the massive positives from a no-deal brexit is that Google and Facebook will have to have British companies paying British taxes to the satisfaction of British tax inspectors.0 -
The Tories usually do slightly better in local elections in London than general elections, so I'm surprised if the figures are showing the opposite.0
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The polling average at the moment is neck-and-neck whereas a couple of months ago there was a small Labour lead. But as you say probably not significant.bigjohnowls said:The little Tory bounce appears to have been reversed.
In all seriousness I have no idea what caused it in the 1st place or why there is a swingback now.
What do people think is it all just MOE0 -
I have little doubt labour will do well in London and a few years of momentum style local government will do the conservatives no harm as reality hitsbigjohnowls said:The little Tory bounce appears to have been reversed.
In all seriousness I have no idea what caused it in the 1st place or why there is a swingback now.
What do people think is it all just MOE0 -
The parties are level-pegging.bigjohnowls said:The little Tory bounce appears to have been reversed.
In all seriousness I have no idea what caused it in the 1st place or why there is a swingback now.
What do people think is it all just MOE0 -
Polling during half term - bank holidays are the same. Labour do better.bigjohnowls said:The little Tory bounce appears to have been reversed.
In all seriousness I have no idea what caused it in the 1st place or why there is a swingback now.
What do people think is it all just MOE
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ICM have the Lib Dems down to 7%? I mean, between a government that is paralysed by Brexit and an opposition that is nothing short of ridiculous what on earth is it going to take? It's almost as if opposing withdrawal from the EU isn't a vote winner after all.0
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Interesting that most Remainers seem to supporting Labour instead of the LDs despite the fact that Corbyn has always been one of the most Eurosceptic Labour MPs, and he arguably contributed to Leave winning the referendum by saying he was 70% in favour of Remain and 30% Leave, etc.DavidL said:ICM have the Lib Dems down to 7%? I mean, between a government that is paralysed by Brexit and an opposition that is nothing short of ridiculous what on earth is it going to take? It's almost as if opposing withdrawal from the EU isn't a vote winner after all.
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You weren't alone at the time...TheScreamingEagles said:
But it was this bit just before it that irked manySandpit said:
The PM was referring to the Philip Greens and the Richard Bransons, the Googles and the Facebooks who make huge amounts of money from the UK yet manage to pay very little in taxes.Scott_P said:
BollocksRichard_Nabavi said:'Citizens of nowhere' referred to people who don't pay their taxes.
And she was completely right.
if you believe you’re a citizen of the world, you’re a citizen of nowhere. You don’t understand what the very word ‘citizenship’ means.
For those of us who are very proud of our Britishness but have a very internationalist outlook it jarred very badly.
The fact I said at the time it had echoes of 'rootless cosmopolitans' was not an auspicious saying.
https://twitter.com/MSmithsonPB/status/8786377128148213760 -
I quite agree - pineapple on pizza is a crime against society.AndyJS said:
Anyone stupid enough to do that ought to get a week in jail.MarkHopkins said:
KFC lovers are being urged not to call the police over the fried chicken "crisis".
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-43140836
Presumably you shouldn't call them if you find pineapple on your pizza, too.0 -
Reading the story, I have a feeling you're blaming the wrong Queen...TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
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I agree, its weird. And a huge fail for the Lib Dems. Why are they not screaming this from the rooftops?AndyJS said:
Interesting that most Remainers seem to supporting Labour instead of the LDs despite the fact that Corbyn has always been one of the most Eurosceptic Labour MPs, and he arguably contributed to Leave winning the referendum by saying he was 70% in favour of Remain and 30% Leave, etc.DavidL said:ICM have the Lib Dems down to 7%? I mean, between a government that is paralysed by Brexit and an opposition that is nothing short of ridiculous what on earth is it going to take? It's almost as if opposing withdrawal from the EU isn't a vote winner after all.
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If we believed that the hot air about Brexit from the media and politicians represented how people feel, then I would expect both the Lib Dems and UKIP to be doing better than they are. I suspect that most of the public are in the "just get on with it" camp.DavidL said:ICM have the Lib Dems down to 7%? I mean, between a government that is paralysed by Brexit and an opposition that is nothing short of ridiculous what on earth is it going to take? It's almost as if opposing withdrawal from the EU isn't a vote winner after all.
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Shirley Ballas is beneath my contempt.Nigelb said:
Reading the story, I have a feeling you're blaming the wrong Queen...TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
Wrong messenger.DavidL said:
I agree, its weird. And a huge fail for the Lib Dems. Why are they not screaming this from the rooftops?AndyJS said:
Interesting that most Remainers seem to supporting Labour instead of the LDs despite the fact that Corbyn has always been one of the most Eurosceptic Labour MPs, and he arguably contributed to Leave winning the referendum by saying he was 70% in favour of Remain and 30% Leave, etc.DavidL said:ICM have the Lib Dems down to 7%? I mean, between a government that is paralysed by Brexit and an opposition that is nothing short of ridiculous what on earth is it going to take? It's almost as if opposing withdrawal from the EU isn't a vote winner after all.
The Lib Dems’ polling went into the toilet because of tuition fees, so who best to revive their fortunes ? The man who instigated the tuition fee increase.0 -
Also paging @TSENigelb said:
I quite agree - pineapple on pizza is a crime against society.AndyJS said:
Anyone stupid enough to do that ought to get a week in jail.MarkHopkins said:
KFC lovers are being urged not to call the police over the fried chicken "crisis".
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-43140836
Presumably you shouldn't call them if you find pineapple on your pizza, too.
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/312/079/177.jpg_large0 -
Really excellent productivity figures today by the way: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-43140646
I am at a loss, however, to explain relatively modest growth of roughly 0.5% per quarter, an 88K increase in the workforce and a 0.8% increase in productivity. At the risk of being overly simplistic if the economy is growing more slowly than productivity shouldn't employment be falling?0 -
I agree. The very large majority seem to me to be bored to tears about it and just want it done. That won't stop them wanting to blame someone else if its done badly of course. That is the voters' right: its what the buggers are paid for.glw said:
If we believed that the hot air about Brexit from the media and politicians represented how people feel, then I would expect both the Lib Dems and UKIP to be doing better than they are. I suspect that most of the public are in the "just get on with it" camp.DavidL said:ICM have the Lib Dems down to 7%? I mean, between a government that is paralysed by Brexit and an opposition that is nothing short of ridiculous what on earth is it going to take? It's almost as if opposing withdrawal from the EU isn't a vote winner after all.
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It would be interesting to see data on how the polls would be affected if the Tories had a different leader. I don't think they usually do surveys like that in this country, whereas it's common in the United States.0
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I've been making it wrong all these yearsFreggles said:
Also paging @TSENigelb said:
I quite agree - pineapple on pizza is a crime against society.AndyJS said:
Anyone stupid enough to do that ought to get a week in jail.MarkHopkins said:
KFC lovers are being urged not to call the police over the fried chicken "crisis".
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-43140836
Presumably you shouldn't call them if you find pineapple on your pizza, too.
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/312/079/177.jpg_large
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That doesn't help. But I also think its the wrong message. They are much more interested in attacking the government instead of highlighting the reality of Labour's position. On one view fair enough, the government are in power. But the voters they should be seeking are not supporting the government and they need to win them back from Labour. Millions of them.TheScreamingEagles said:
Wrong messenger.DavidL said:
I agree, its weird. And a huge fail for the Lib Dems. Why are they not screaming this from the rooftops?AndyJS said:
Interesting that most Remainers seem to supporting Labour instead of the LDs despite the fact that Corbyn has always been one of the most Eurosceptic Labour MPs, and he arguably contributed to Leave winning the referendum by saying he was 70% in favour of Remain and 30% Leave, etc.DavidL said:ICM have the Lib Dems down to 7%? I mean, between a government that is paralysed by Brexit and an opposition that is nothing short of ridiculous what on earth is it going to take? It's almost as if opposing withdrawal from the EU isn't a vote winner after all.
The Lib Dems’ polling went into the toilet because of tuition fees, so who best to revive their fortunes ? The man who instigated the tuition fee increase.0 -
First they came for Germaine Greer...now Peter Tatchell is apparently a racist trans-phonic bigot...
https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/politics/peter-tatchell-canterbury-how-it-feels-to-be-on-the-frontline-of-the-free-speech-wars0 -
All a matter of perspective...RobD said:
I've been making it wrong all these yearsFreggles said:
Also paging @TSENigelb said:
I quite agree - pineapple on pizza is a crime against society.AndyJS said:
Anyone stupid enough to do that ought to get a week in jail.MarkHopkins said:
KFC lovers are being urged not to call the police over the fried chicken "crisis".
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-43140836
Presumably you shouldn't call them if you find pineapple on your pizza, too.
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/312/079/177.jpg_large0 -
It's all margin of error.FrancisUrquhart said:
Or Half term bounce....bigjohnowls said:Westminster voting intention:
LAB: 43% (+3)
CON: 42% (+1)
LDEM: 7% (-1)
UKIP: 3% (-1)
GRN: 2% (-1)
via @ICMResearch
Commie Spy bounce
You'd think Remainers would get over this hilarious 'the sky is falling in' response that links Brexit to everything bad that happens, and ignores the export and manufacturing boom which the weaker pound has created.
Brexit is priced in to VI and has been since we had an election where both parties agreed to leave the EU, and a third party doomed itself by speaking for the williamglenns of this world. The British public expect delays, they expect some degree of negotiation and drama.
Tory strategy for the next 4 years should be to maintain its own vote at 40-something percent and soften Labour's vote, especially in key margainals. It's not rocket science
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Tatchell's main deficiency, in the eyes of the SJWs, is probably the fact that he's 66 years old and therefore "too old" to understand the modern world.FrancisUrquhart said:First they came for Germaine Greer...now Peter Tatchell is apparently a racist trans-phonic bigot...
https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/politics/peter-tatchell-canterbury-how-it-feels-to-be-on-the-frontline-of-the-free-speech-wars0 -
Wages rising at the fastest rate for some time too.DavidL said:Really excellent productivity figures today by the way: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-43140646
I am at a loss, however, to explain relatively modest growth of roughly 0.5% per quarter, an 88K increase in the workforce and a 0.8% increase in productivity. At the risk of being overly simplistic if the economy is growing more slowly than productivity shouldn't employment be falling?
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When the next recession comes then that's only going to be 3 categories the Tories are ahead in.TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
Still lower than inflation but the differential is getting smaller. Hopefully by mid year wages will have started to grow again in real terms.TGOHF said:
Wages rising at the fastest rate for some time too.DavidL said:Really excellent productivity figures today by the way: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-43140646
I am at a loss, however, to explain relatively modest growth of roughly 0.5% per quarter, an 88K increase in the workforce and a 0.8% increase in productivity. At the risk of being overly simplistic if the economy is growing more slowly than productivity shouldn't employment be falling?0 -
Screaming what? Their sole policy is opposing the will of the voters. They deserve to be on 2%.DavidL said:
I agree, its weird. And a huge fail for the Lib Dems. Why are they not screaming this from the rooftops?AndyJS said:
Interesting that most Remainers seem to supporting Labour instead of the LDs despite the fact that Corbyn has always been one of the most Eurosceptic Labour MPs, and he arguably contributed to Leave winning the referendum by saying he was 70% in favour of Remain and 30% Leave, etc.DavidL said:ICM have the Lib Dems down to 7%? I mean, between a government that is paralysed by Brexit and an opposition that is nothing short of ridiculous what on earth is it going to take? It's almost as if opposing withdrawal from the EU isn't a vote winner after all.
And they are led by Vince Cable. Vince "I was right about that Gordon Brown you know....." Cable. Er, thanks for that Vince.....0 -
Let's face it, at that age the statistical probability is that he is a Tory.AndyJS said:
Tatchell's main deficiency, in the eyes of the SJWs, is probably the fact that he's 66 years old and therefore "too old" to understand the modern world.FrancisUrquhart said:First they came for Germaine Greer...now Peter Tatchell is apparently a racist trans-phonic bigot...
https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/politics/peter-tatchell-canterbury-how-it-feels-to-be-on-the-frontline-of-the-free-speech-wars0 -
I don't think people make that distinction.TheScreamingEagles said:
Wrong messenger.DavidL said:
I agree, its weird. And a huge fail for the Lib Dems. Why are they not screaming this from the rooftops?AndyJS said:
Interesting that most Remainers seem to supporting Labour instead of the LDs despite the fact that Corbyn has always been one of the most Eurosceptic Labour MPs, and he arguably contributed to Leave winning the referendum by saying he was 70% in favour of Remain and 30% Leave, etc.DavidL said:ICM have the Lib Dems down to 7%? I mean, between a government that is paralysed by Brexit and an opposition that is nothing short of ridiculous what on earth is it going to take? It's almost as if opposing withdrawal from the EU isn't a vote winner after all.
The Lib Dems’ polling went into the toilet because of tuition fees, so who best to revive their fortunes ? The man who instigated the tuition fee increase.
I just think that they are too lefty under Cable at a time when Corbyn is absorbing the lefty vote wholesale. Their only USP is being anti-Brexit. I do think some Lab supporters are holding out hope that he will do a U-turn, but with little chance of an election before Brexit day I can't see JC getting a beating over it either way.
If they were positioning themselves as a managerialist, middle of the road party who wants a second referendum but doesn't bang on about it, they might be able to absorb some disaffected Tories like yourself.
Probably not enough to get past 12% though....0 -
But we are constantly being told that there is now a small majority of the country who think Brexit is a bad idea. That is a huge pool in which to fish. The takings seem paltry.MarqueeMark said:
Screaming what? Their sole policy is opposing the will of the voters. They deserve to be on 2%.DavidL said:
I agree, its weird. And a huge fail for the Lib Dems. Why are they not screaming this from the rooftops?AndyJS said:
Interesting that most Remainers seem to supporting Labour instead of the LDs despite the fact that Corbyn has always been one of the most Eurosceptic Labour MPs, and he arguably contributed to Leave winning the referendum by saying he was 70% in favour of Remain and 30% Leave, etc.DavidL said:ICM have the Lib Dems down to 7%? I mean, between a government that is paralysed by Brexit and an opposition that is nothing short of ridiculous what on earth is it going to take? It's almost as if opposing withdrawal from the EU isn't a vote winner after all.
And they are led by Vince Cable. Vince "I was right about that Gordon Brown you know....." Cable. Er, thanks for that Vince.....0 -
That's quite funny in a sad sort of way. In those ancient days of the 1990s Greer and Tatchell were perhaps the two most right-on people in Britain, now in 2018 they are labelled as bigots. God only knows what the thought police of the middle of this century will think of us.FrancisUrquhart said:First they came for Germaine Greer...now Peter Tatchell is apparently a racist trans-phonic bigot...
https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/politics/peter-tatchell-canterbury-how-it-feels-to-be-on-the-frontline-of-the-free-speech-wars
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That image has triggered me.Freggles said:
Also paging @TSENigelb said:
I quite agree - pineapple on pizza is a crime against society.AndyJS said:
Anyone stupid enough to do that ought to get a week in jail.MarkHopkins said:
KFC lovers are being urged not to call the police over the fried chicken "crisis".
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-43140836
Presumably you shouldn't call them if you find pineapple on your pizza, too.
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/312/079/177.jpg_large
I’m off to find a safe space.0 -
Bloody snowflake....TheScreamingEagles said:
That image has triggered me.Freggles said:
Also paging @TSENigelb said:
I quite agree - pineapple on pizza is a crime against society.AndyJS said:
Anyone stupid enough to do that ought to get a week in jail.MarkHopkins said:
KFC lovers are being urged not to call the police over the fried chicken "crisis".
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-43140836
Presumably you shouldn't call them if you find pineapple on your pizza, too.
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/312/079/177.jpg_large
I’m off to find a safe space.0 -
Canada and Australia have the same problems getting tax out of Google and Facebook that we have. To the extent countries can stop companies from tax shopping within the EU, this is being addressed by new EU regulation.Sandpit said:
A “No-deal” scenario absolutely results in this, as does any deal with the EU that doesn’t incorporate intangibles such as software and services.FF43 said:
I would seriously doubt any Brexit scenario where Google and Facebook pay more taxes to the UK Exchequer.Sandpit said:I’m one of those who’s a Brit abroad making his way somewhere else in the world. That’s not who she was getting at.
Mrs May was highlighting individuals and companies who are making huge amounts of money in Britain but not paying taxes there. She was right to do so.
One of the massive positives from a no-deal brexit is that Google and Facebook will have to have British companies paying British taxes to the satisfaction of British tax inspectors.0 -
It is the first time in my life I’ve been triggered.FrancisUrquhart said:
Bloody snowflake....TheScreamingEagles said:
That image has triggered me.Freggles said:
Also paging @TSENigelb said:
I quite agree - pineapple on pizza is a crime against society.AndyJS said:
Anyone stupid enough to do that ought to get a week in jail.MarkHopkins said:
KFC lovers are being urged not to call the police over the fried chicken "crisis".
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-43140836
Presumably you shouldn't call them if you find pineapple on your pizza, too.
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/312/079/177.jpg_large
I’m off to find a safe space.0 -
Any update on Scottish employment figures ?Alistair said:
When the next recession comes then that's only going to be 3 categories the Tories are ahead in.TheScreamingEagles said:
The next recession will be in Scotland.0 -
Mr. 43, I look forward to seeing the way in which the EU manage to **** up that regulation, after they did such sterling work with the VAT nonsense.0
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Perhaps to provide some relief from this distressing ordeal you could watch the best Christmas movie ever made....Die Hard.TheScreamingEagles said:
It is the first time in my life I’ve been triggered.FrancisUrquhart said:
Bloody snowflake....TheScreamingEagles said:
That image has triggered me.Freggles said:
Also paging @TSENigelb said:
I quite agree - pineapple on pizza is a crime against society.AndyJS said:
Anyone stupid enough to do that ought to get a week in jail.MarkHopkins said:
KFC lovers are being urged not to call the police over the fried chicken "crisis".
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-43140836
Presumably you shouldn't call them if you find pineapple on your pizza, too.
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/312/079/177.jpg_large
I’m off to find a safe space.0 -
Looks like the aftermath of surgery for some very unpleasant skin complaint....Freggles said:
Also paging @TSENigelb said:
I quite agree - pineapple on pizza is a crime against society.AndyJS said:
Anyone stupid enough to do that ought to get a week in jail.MarkHopkins said:
KFC lovers are being urged not to call the police over the fried chicken "crisis".
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-43140836
Presumably you shouldn't call them if you find pineapple on your pizza, too.
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/312/079/177.jpg_large
I hope you're not suggesting that is edible ?0 -
Most of the public are in the "just get on with it" camp, and certainly the bulk of Leavers are. They are doomed to disappointment. The intractable mess will go on and on.glw said:
If we believed that the hot air about Brexit from the media and politicians represented how people feel, then I would expect both the Lib Dems and UKIP to be doing better than they are. I suspect that most of the public are in the "just get on with it" camp.DavidL said:ICM have the Lib Dems down to 7%? I mean, between a government that is paralysed by Brexit and an opposition that is nothing short of ridiculous what on earth is it going to take? It's almost as if opposing withdrawal from the EU isn't a vote winner after all.
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I think there is a genuine case for further tax harmonisation within the EU. Globally it simply isn't a market multinationals can do without..FF43 said:
Canada and Australia have the same problems getting tax out of Google and Facebook that we have. To the extent countries can stop companies from tax shopping within the EU, this is being addressed by new EU regulation.Sandpit said:
A “No-deal” scenario absolutely results in this, as does any deal with the EU that doesn’t incorporate intangibles such as software and services.FF43 said:
I would seriously doubt any Brexit scenario where Google and Facebook pay more taxes to the UK Exchequer.Sandpit said:I’m one of those who’s a Brit abroad making his way somewhere else in the world. That’s not who she was getting at.
Mrs May was highlighting individuals and companies who are making huge amounts of money in Britain but not paying taxes there. She was right to do so.
One of the massive positives from a no-deal brexit is that Google and Facebook will have to have British companies paying British taxes to the satisfaction of British tax inspectors.
The only way the UK can be as important to multinationals is through upping the absolute size of the economy. And that means a metric tonne of immigration, which I'm not really in favour of - one of the reasons I voted remain...0 -
Not being constantly told it by the voters though!DavidL said:
But we are constantly being told that there is now a small majority of the country who think Brexit is a bad idea. That is a huge pool in which to fish. The takings seem paltry.MarqueeMark said:
Screaming what? Their sole policy is opposing the will of the voters. They deserve to be on 2%.DavidL said:
I agree, its weird. And a huge fail for the Lib Dems. Why are they not screaming this from the rooftops?AndyJS said:
Interesting that most Remainers seem to supporting Labour instead of the LDs despite the fact that Corbyn has always been one of the most Eurosceptic Labour MPs, and he arguably contributed to Leave winning the referendum by saying he was 70% in favour of Remain and 30% Leave, etc.DavidL said:ICM have the Lib Dems down to 7%? I mean, between a government that is paralysed by Brexit and an opposition that is nothing short of ridiculous what on earth is it going to take? It's almost as if opposing withdrawal from the EU isn't a vote winner after all.
And they are led by Vince Cable. Vince "I was right about that Gordon Brown you know....." Cable. Er, thanks for that Vince.....0 -
The thing with the VAT nonsense was not only did it impose an extra burden on small online businesses, competitors based outside the EU basically just ignore it i.e. making EU based businesses upto 27% more expensive.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. 43, I look forward to seeing the way in which the EU manage to **** up that regulation, after they did such sterling work with the VAT nonsense.
In theory the EU could go after them, and if you are Amazon of course you have to adhere to it, but competitors to one of my businesses still routinely ignore charging VAT on digital sales to EU customers.0 -
Very poor. 14K increase in unemployment and even more alarming a 30K fall in employment (as opposed to the 88K increase for the UK as a whole). It's just as well the Scottish Parliament is about to approve an enterprise friendly, business friendly, investment attracting budget in Holyrood isn't it?TGOHF said:
Any update on Scottish employment figures ?Alistair said:
When the next recession comes then that's only going to be 3 categories the Tories are ahead in.TheScreamingEagles said:
The next recession will be in Scotland.
Ah.....0 -
I think you are right. If the UK wants to push tax harmonisation, the way to do it is through the EU, because the target isn't the companies involved, it's the US government that needs to buy in. Only the EU might have the clout to force the issue. We don't on our own. Having said that, the UK hasn't shown much interest in tax harmonisation so far.Pulpstar said:
I think there is a genuine case for further tax harmonisation within the EU. Globally it simply isn't a market multinationals can do without..FF43 said:
Canada and Australia have the same problems getting tax out of Google and Facebook that we have. To the extent countries can stop companies from tax shopping within the EU, this is being addressed by new EU regulation.Sandpit said:
A “No-deal” scenario absolutely results in this, as does any deal with the EU that doesn’t incorporate intangibles such as software and services.FF43 said:
I would seriously doubt any Brexit scenario where Google and Facebook pay more taxes to the UK Exchequer.Sandpit said:I’m one of those who’s a Brit abroad making his way somewhere else in the world. That’s not who she was getting at.
Mrs May was highlighting individuals and companies who are making huge amounts of money in Britain but not paying taxes there. She was right to do so.
One of the massive positives from a no-deal brexit is that Google and Facebook will have to have British companies paying British taxes to the satisfaction of British tax inspectors.
The only way the UK can be as important to multinationals is through upping the absolute size of the economy. And that means a metric tonne of immigration, which I'm not really in favour of - one of the reasons I voted remain...0 -
Mr. Urquhart, it is some extra special legislation. Despite wanting to crack down on Amazon, the idiot bureaucrats of the EU managed to scare off a lot of micro-businesses, which then had to use the Amazon marketplace (or similar big firms) who could do the leg work.
So, at best it's ignored, and at worst it's helped major businesses make more money when the legislation's overt purpose was to get more tax out of them.0 -
It’s not Christmas so it’s the perfect time to watch Die Hard.FrancisUrquhart said:
Perhaps to provide some relief from this distressing ordeal you could watch the best Christmas movie ever made....Die Hard.TheScreamingEagles said:
It is the first time in my life I’ve been triggered.FrancisUrquhart said:
Bloody snowflake....TheScreamingEagles said:
That image has triggered me.Freggles said:
Also paging @TSENigelb said:
I quite agree - pineapple on pizza is a crime against society.AndyJS said:
Anyone stupid enough to do that ought to get a week in jail.MarkHopkins said:
KFC lovers are being urged not to call the police over the fried chicken "crisis".
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-43140836
Presumably you shouldn't call them if you find pineapple on your pizza, too.
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/312/079/177.jpg_large
I’m off to find a safe space.0 -
There will be a fudge of sorts and the public will move on. As far as the lib dems poor showing is concerned the remainers may be putting more store in the fact that most labour mps are pro EU and no doubt hope that there is more of a chance that labour can have an effect on the outcome than a band of 12 lib dems.FF43 said:
Most of the public are in the "just get on with it" camp, and certainly the bulk of Leavers are. They are doomed to disappointment. The intractable mess will go on and on.glw said:
If we believed that the hot air about Brexit from the media and politicians represented how people feel, then I would expect both the Lib Dems and UKIP to be doing better than they are. I suspect that most of the public are in the "just get on with it" camp.DavidL said:ICM have the Lib Dems down to 7%? I mean, between a government that is paralysed by Brexit and an opposition that is nothing short of ridiculous what on earth is it going to take? It's almost as if opposing withdrawal from the EU isn't a vote winner after all.
Where we are in 12 months time will be very interesting0 -
Possible. The fudge is BINO, Brexit that is damage limited to the greatest extent possible. We don't have consensus on that, which is a problem.Big_G_NorthWales said:
There will be a fudge of sorts and the public will move on. As far as the lib dems poor showing is concerned the remainers may be putting more store in the fact that most labour mps are pro EU and no doubt hope that there is more of a chance that labour can have an effect on the outcome than a band of 12 lib dems.FF43 said:
Most of the public are in the "just get on with it" camp, and certainly the bulk of Leavers are. They are doomed to disappointment. The intractable mess will go on and on.glw said:
If we believed that the hot air about Brexit from the media and politicians represented how people feel, then I would expect both the Lib Dems and UKIP to be doing better than they are. I suspect that most of the public are in the "just get on with it" camp.DavidL said:ICM have the Lib Dems down to 7%? I mean, between a government that is paralysed by Brexit and an opposition that is nothing short of ridiculous what on earth is it going to take? It's almost as if opposing withdrawal from the EU isn't a vote winner after all.
Where we are in 12 months time will be very interesting0 -
BINO is staying in the SM and CU. Can't see that happening.FF43 said:
Possible. The fudge is BINO, Brexit that is damage limited to the greatest extent possible. We don't have consensus on that, which is a problem.Big_G_NorthWales said:
There will be a fudge of sorts and the public will move on. As far as the lib dems poor showing is concerned the remainers may be putting more store in the fact that most labour mps are pro EU and no doubt hope that there is more of a chance that labour can have an effect on the outcome than a band of 12 lib dems.FF43 said:
Most of the public are in the "just get on with it" camp, and certainly the bulk of Leavers are. They are doomed to disappointment. The intractable mess will go on and on.glw said:
If we believed that the hot air about Brexit from the media and politicians represented how people feel, then I would expect both the Lib Dems and UKIP to be doing better than they are. I suspect that most of the public are in the "just get on with it" camp.DavidL said:ICM have the Lib Dems down to 7%? I mean, between a government that is paralysed by Brexit and an opposition that is nothing short of ridiculous what on earth is it going to take? It's almost as if opposing withdrawal from the EU isn't a vote winner after all.
Where we are in 12 months time will be very interesting0 -
Hardly surprising given the continued job losses in the Oil and Gas industry. Currently somewhere north of 150,000 jobs lost in the North Sea and I suspect even with the current pick up in activity it will be a long time before we see any real move towards more recruitment.DavidL said:
Very poor. 14K increase in unemployment and even more alarming a 30K fall in employment (as opposed to the 88K increase for the UK as a whole). It's just as well the Scottish Parliament is about to approve an enterprise friendly, business friendly, investment attracting budget in Holyrood isn't it?TGOHF said:
Any update on Scottish employment figures ?Alistair said:
When the next recession comes then that's only going to be 3 categories the Tories are ahead in.TheScreamingEagles said:
The next recession will be in Scotland.
Ah.....0 -
I don't see how BINO can happen without a critical mass of Leavers saying that we'd be better off staying. Once that position gathers momentum it will be hard to stop.FF43 said:
Possible. The fudge is BINO, Brexit that is damage limited to the greatest extent possible. We don't have consensus on that, which is a problem.Big_G_NorthWales said:
There will be a fudge of sorts and the public will move on. As far as the lib dems poor showing is concerned the remainers may be putting more store in the fact that most labour mps are pro EU and no doubt hope that there is more of a chance that labour can have an effect on the outcome than a band of 12 lib dems.FF43 said:
Most of the public are in the "just get on with it" camp, and certainly the bulk of Leavers are. They are doomed to disappointment. The intractable mess will go on and on.glw said:
If we believed that the hot air about Brexit from the media and politicians represented how people feel, then I would expect both the Lib Dems and UKIP to be doing better than they are. I suspect that most of the public are in the "just get on with it" camp.DavidL said:ICM have the Lib Dems down to 7%? I mean, between a government that is paralysed by Brexit and an opposition that is nothing short of ridiculous what on earth is it going to take? It's almost as if opposing withdrawal from the EU isn't a vote winner after all.
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It's the graphic equivalent of the Norway option.TheScreamingEagles said:
It is the first time in my life I’ve been triggered.FrancisUrquhart said:
Bloody snowflake....TheScreamingEagles said:
That image has triggered me.Freggles said:
Also paging @TSENigelb said:
I quite agree - pineapple on pizza is a crime against society.AndyJS said:
Anyone stupid enough to do that ought to get a week in jail.MarkHopkins said:
KFC lovers are being urged not to call the police over the fried chicken "crisis".
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-43140836
Presumably you shouldn't call them if you find pineapple on your pizza, too.
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/312/079/177.jpg_large
I’m off to find a safe space.
Technically, it's not pineapple on pizza, but it's not going to be palatable to anyone..0 -
Exactly.RobD said:
BINO is staying in the SM and CU. Can't see that happening.FF43 said:
Possible. The fudge is BINO, Brexit that is damage limited to the greatest extent possible. We don't have consensus on that, which is a problem.Big_G_NorthWales said:
There will be a fudge of sorts and the public will move on. As far as the lib dems poor showing is concerned the remainers may be putting more store in the fact that most labour mps are pro EU and no doubt hope that there is more of a chance that labour can have an effect on the outcome than a band of 12 lib dems.FF43 said:
Most of the public are in the "just get on with it" camp, and certainly the bulk of Leavers are. They are doomed to disappointment. The intractable mess will go on and on.glw said:
If we believed that the hot air about Brexit from the media and politicians represented how people feel, then I would expect both the Lib Dems and UKIP to be doing better than they are. I suspect that most of the public are in the "just get on with it" camp.DavidL said:ICM have the Lib Dems down to 7%? I mean, between a government that is paralysed by Brexit and an opposition that is nothing short of ridiculous what on earth is it going to take? It's almost as if opposing withdrawal from the EU isn't a vote winner after all.
Where we are in 12 months time will be very interesting
We may well end up in the SM and CU. But people don't want it, so we are in a mess and those people who want to put the whole thing to sleep will be disappointed.0 -
Except I probably would eat it. The pizza on pineapple that is, not Norway.0
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I am past caring to be honest - I am in the camp of just get it done and lets get on with the important things like the NHS and Social care, higher education policies, building loads of affordable homes and helping the youngFF43 said:
Possible. The fudge is BINO, Brexit that is damage limited to the greatest extent possible. We don't have consensus on that, which is a problem.Big_G_NorthWales said:
There will be a fudge of sorts and the public will move on. As far as the lib dems poor showing is concerned the remainers may be putting more store in the fact that most labour mps are pro EU and no doubt hope that there is more of a chance that labour can have an effect on the outcome than a band of 12 lib dems.FF43 said:
Most of the public are in the "just get on with it" camp, and certainly the bulk of Leavers are. They are doomed to disappointment. The intractable mess will go on and on.glw said:
If we believed that the hot air about Brexit from the media and politicians represented how people feel, then I would expect both the Lib Dems and UKIP to be doing better than they are. I suspect that most of the public are in the "just get on with it" camp.DavidL said:ICM have the Lib Dems down to 7%? I mean, between a government that is paralysed by Brexit and an opposition that is nothing short of ridiculous what on earth is it going to take? It's almost as if opposing withdrawal from the EU isn't a vote winner after all.
Where we are in 12 months time will be very interesting0 -
Camilla did not complain, her spokesperson said she enjoyed it, it was Craig Revell-Horwood who was not impressed as Brendan Cole was told it would breach protocol if he asked her to danceTheScreamingEagles said:Bloody Royals. Republic now.
BREACH OF PROTO-COLE
Brendan Cole sacked from Strictly Come Dancing after breaching protocol by waltzing with Camilla Parker Bowles
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/2259805/brendan-cole-sacked-strictly-dancing-camilla-buckingham-palace/amp/0 -
I saw reports earlier this week that stated the US will be a net oil exporter next year with shale prices well below what the North Sea requires. I suspect any real move towards recruitment is a very long time awayRichard_Tyndall said:
Hardly surprising given the continued job losses in the Oil and Gas industry. Currently somewhere north of 150,000 jobs lost in the North Sea and I suspect even with the current pick up in activity it will be a long time before we see any real move towards more recruitment.DavidL said:
Very poor. 14K increase in unemployment and even more alarming a 30K fall in employment (as opposed to the 88K increase for the UK as a whole). It's just as well the Scottish Parliament is about to approve an enterprise friendly, business friendly, investment attracting budget in Holyrood isn't it?TGOHF said:
Any update on Scottish employment figures ?Alistair said:
When the next recession comes then that's only going to be 3 categories the Tories are ahead in.TheScreamingEagles said:
The next recession will be in Scotland.
Ah.....
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Yep. More like bloody republicans.HYUFD said:
Camilla did not complain, her spokesperson said she enjoyed it, it was Craig Revell-Horwood who was not impressed as Brendan Cole was told it would breach protocol if he asked her to danceTheScreamingEagles said:Bloody Royals. Republic now.
BREACH OF PROTO-COLE
Brendan Cole sacked from Strictly Come Dancing after breaching protocol by waltzing with Camilla Parker Bowles
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/2259805/brendan-cole-sacked-strictly-dancing-camilla-buckingham-palace/amp/0 -
Wasn't it a breach of protocol for Charles to be banging Camilla while he was married to Diana?HYUFD said:
Camilla did not complain, her spokesperson said she enjoyed it, it was Craig Revell-Horwood who was not impressed as Brendan Cole was told it would breach protocol if he asked her to danceTheScreamingEagles said:Bloody Royals. Republic now.
BREACH OF PROTO-COLE
Brendan Cole sacked from Strictly Come Dancing after breaching protocol by waltzing with Camilla Parker Bowles
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/2259805/brendan-cole-sacked-strictly-dancing-camilla-buckingham-palace/amp/0
