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With the votes in London at the May local elections likely to dominate coverage a new YouGov poll QMUL has bad news for the Conservatives.
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Birmingham Hall Green and Solihull.
49.35% swing !
Such a result would actually give the Conservatives a gain of one seat (Kensington).
There's a similarity to the Hillary effect, which allowed in Trump, but of greater magnitude.
https://yougov.co.uk/news/2018/02/16/four-ten-female-millennials-been-sent-dick-pic/
My impression is he's much higher rated then both May or Corbyn but no idea if polling shows that.
The fact he has broken loads of promises already is being overlooked in all of this.
No, me neither.
Guido already dripping out some supplementary material.
I make that a week and the story still running...
The chances of Agent COB being a spy is bugger all, but that is now how it is being spun as denial of a claim that is highly unlikely to be true. It is highly doubtful he is was another John Stonehouse, too thick, too insignificant at the time, etc etc etc.
It is much more likely (as the Guido bit suggests) he and his fellow travellers are again useful idiots.
What is being missed is the fact that Jezza sympathies again are shown likely to have been with those that have been enemies of this country and deeply unpleasant organizations.
But we also value something else: the spirit of citizenship.
That spirit that means you respect the bonds and obligations that make our society work. That means a commitment to the men and women who live around you, who work for you, who buy the goods and services you sell.
That spirit that means recognising the social contract that says you train up local young people before you take on cheap labour from overseas.
That spirit that means you do as others do, and pay your fair share of tax.
But today, too many people in positions of power behave as though they have more in common with international elites than with the people down the road, the people they employ, the people they pass in the street.
But if you believe you’re a citizen of the world, you’re a citizen of nowhere. You don’t understand what the very word ‘citizenship’ means.
So if you’re a boss who earns a fortune but doesn’t look after your staff…
An international company that treats tax laws as an optional extra…
A household name that refuses to work with the authorities even to fight terrorism…
A director who takes out massive dividends while knowing that the company pension is about to go bust…
I’m putting you on warning. This can’t go on anymore.
Perhaps you can point me to the bit about Remainers in that? 'Cos I've looked very hard, and I'm damned if I can find it.
The Conservatives have done nothing to restrain their tabloid paramilitary wing. The public can see that too, to the Conservatives' benefit in the provinces and to their detriment in London.
Any polls for Leeds, Manchester, Birmingham, Edinburgh?
It wasn't aimed at them - is that the problem - they want attention ?
Or do they feel it was aimed at their patriotism ? If they were confident in that it would be water off a duck's back surely ?
The "citizen" line is not logically related to any of the text around it.
The implication seems to be if you pay taxes, you can't regard yourself as a citizen of the World.
Incoherent bollocks.
As an aside why would you want to poll Edinburgh when there's no election this year?
Tory budget gives banks a £4.7 bn tax cut by scrapping banks levy
Change is coming
Says Agent Jezza
Under a Labour Government the Banks will work for us the many not the other way round.
Change is coming
Not so much a dog-whistle, as a megaphone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIC5ZK3dXFo
What is extraordinary is that Corbyn is not racing into the stratosphere against May. That he is only a few points ahead of May even in London.
Corbyn is behind None of the Above in London, a city tailor made for Labour to thrive. His party is doing better than him.
Yet more proof what a liability this ranting old Marxist is, and yet another omen that he is leading Labour to defeat in 2022.
http://www.qmul.ac.uk/media/news/2018/hss/conservatives-heading-for-defeat-in-at-least-three-flagship-london-boroughs-in-forthcoming-local-elections-.html
Sean F is right that wealthy Inner London Labour voters know what they're doing - they're among the most political and well-informed groups in the country. They're simply, by and large, very left wing, to the point that Corbyn is probably slightly to the right of average.
Mr. Eagles, is the bikini-banning numpty up for re-election this year?
Perhaps buy a dog ?
For the referendum was not just a vote to withdraw from the EU. It was about something broader – something that the European Union had come to represent.
It was about a sense – deep, profound and let’s face it often justified – that many people have today that the world works well for a privileged few, but not for them.
It was a vote not just to change Britain’s relationship with the European Union, but to call for a change in the way our country works – and the people for whom it works – forever.
But no, he's not up for re election this year.
There must be adjustments for shy Labour, those who cannot in public countenance showing support for Corbyn or the anti sematic undertones that the party refuses to expunge.
There must be adjustments for a new breed of shy Tory. Those who cannot allow others to know that they support the party depicted as a fascist selfish capitalist refuge for the citizens of nowhere.
Then there is the adjustment for 'I was a UKIP supporter'. The maverick who will tell the pollsters anything to mislead and confuse.
Then there is the adjustment to the adjustment of the young voter who initially did but then didn't have a higher turnout.
Add in the adjustment for the OAPs, who we are frequently told are dying off.
I'm not sure what the point of polling is, other than a statistical exercise of applying adjustments.
And she was completely right.
That must be why JRM has upped his media profile, the ERG are all over the press, and Nigel fucking Farage is on Question Time. Again.
Continuity Remainers all...
I reckon in the forced two question most of that 9% goes to Corbyn.
There's much projection going on here. Theresa May is trying to make sense of the vote - which was a massive surprise, after all. That's fair enough, surely, even if you don't agree with her interpretation of it? Those criticising her, and blaming swivel-eyed Brexiteers, and complaining that the government is taking us out of the EU, might be better advised to emulate her attempt to understand things, rather than trashing her for trying, and misrepresenting what she said. Just a thought.
And do you think your local council is currently doing a good or bad job?
Good 47%
Bad 29%
Even now, there are still some boroughs that are very Conservative.
Read the speech. The line has no connection to any of the text around it.
It could have been preceded with "Bananas will no longer be straight" and followed by "British passports will be blue" and it would have made as much sense. In fact that would have got a bigger cheer
LAB: 43% (+3)
CON: 42% (+1)
LDEM: 7% (-1)
UKIP: 3% (-1)
GRN: 2% (-1)
via @ICMResearch
Commie Spy bounce
if you believe you’re a citizen of the world, you’re a citizen of nowhere. You don’t understand what the very word ‘citizenship’ means.
For those of us who are very proud of our Britishness but have a very internationalist outlook it jarred very badly.
The fact I said at the time it had echoes of 'rootless cosmopolitans' was not an auspicious saying.
No, an MP making a post on Twitter or any other website when physically within Parliament doesn’t count.
Privilege only covers comments made during official proceedings either in the chamber or during committees.
https://imgur.com/F3qJwXq
London Mayors in recent times have not impressed.
I have never once heard or seen anyone refer to citizens of nowhere as a phrase. The only place I’ve seen it mentioned is on here. If I google it - half of the first page references are to something else (a film about Dominicans, a report by unhcr on refugees etc).
I just don’t think it’s as famous a remark as some think.
As an aside, Mrs May has rowed back very considerably on her contempt for the EU since that speech.
@Pong tells us the Tories feather-bed pensioners at the expense of the young. It seems to be that the young want to vote Labour to protect us rich oldies.
THE FIGURES IN THE TITLE OF THE THREAD ARE INCORRECT !!
http://www.qmul.ac.uk/media/news/2018/hss/conservatives-heading-for-defeat-in-at-least-three-flagship-london-boroughs-in-forthcoming-local-elections-.html
The data tables are here:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/r3f9udshnu97w0y/QueenMary_LondonResults_Feb18_VI.pdf?dl=0
The figures for the GE and local elections need to be transposed.