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He’s got quite a lot of names, but William isn’t one of them. He could decide to use Philip as a regnal name!Pro_Rata said:
Not such a major change if it is simply Charles deciding to call himself William as king (and perhaps hoping nobody will notice).OldKingCole said:
I didn’t write any changes. I referred to major changes. There’s a difference.PAW said:OldKingCole - isn't that just a device to give the minority that does very well from the status quo the power to block change? Would you say a political party getting 65.9% of the vote should be allowed to make any changes?
But, taking the point would I say that nationalisation of the railways was a major change? No
Would I say that declaring that the next Monarch will be William V, not Charles IV was major? Yes.
That might stir up trouble, of course.0 -
If they want to escalate, sure. It's probably working, the catalans did blink first. But long term?RoyalBlue said:
While the economic consequences of the vote in terms of corporate relocations grows, they are ramping up the pressure to exploit the fissures amongst the independentistas. Seems like a reasonable strategy to me.kle4 said:
Sounds like they are confused, which probably means it was a well done statement from catalonia, at least in terms of them batting the ball back and forth.Slackbladder said:AFP news agencyVERIFIED ACCOUNT @AFP 3 mins3 minutes ago
#BREAKING Spain PM asks Catalan leader to clarify if he declared independence
Great,so the Spainish PM is turning up the heat again.0 -
How many wars did Hannibal win?Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Eagles, that's a bit rude.
And I'm unconvinced someone who thinks Caesar was a better general than Hannibal should run around criticising the intellectual capacity of other people.0 -
It's a very good piece. On your second point, here's a convert:AlastairMeeks said:Glad people enjoyed the piece. I was worried that it was too long (and was terser than I would have liked to be about some points) so I'm cheered that some wanted it to cover other things as well.
I see that the Conservative Remain-supporting politicians are queuing up today to make themselves unelectable as Conservative leader. This should provide betting opportunities.
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Mr. Eagles, Hannibal completed the conquest of Iberia.
He was also still fighting battles decades after the Second Punic War. Caesar was not, I believe, doing the same decades after the Civil War.0 -
That is a disgrace.Tissue_Price said:
It's a very good piece. On your second point, here's a convert:AlastairMeeks said:Glad people enjoyed the piece. I was worried that it was too long (and was terser than I would have liked to be about some points) so I'm cheered that some wanted it to cover other things as well.
I see that the Conservative Remain-supporting politicians are queuing up today to make themselves unelectable as Conservative leader. This should provide betting opportunities.
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So not as many as JC.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Eagles, Hannibal completed the conquest of Iberia.
He was also still fighting battles decades after the Second Punic War. Caesar was not, I believe, doing the same decades after the Civil War.0 -
Mr. Eagles, name the adversary Caesar faced who was the equal of Marcellus, Nero, Quintus Fabius Maximus or Scipio Africanus.
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How about Arthur?OldKingCole said:
He’s got quite a lot of names, but William isn’t one of them. He could decide to use Philip as a regnal name!Pro_Rata said:
Not such a major change if it is simply Charles deciding to call himself William as king (and perhaps hoping nobody will notice).OldKingCole said:
I didn’t write any changes. I referred to major changes. There’s a difference.PAW said:OldKingCole - isn't that just a device to give the minority that does very well from the status quo the power to block change? Would you say a political party getting 65.9% of the vote should be allowed to make any changes?
But, taking the point would I say that nationalisation of the railways was a major change? No
Would I say that declaring that the next Monarch will be William V, not Charles IV was major? Yes.
That might stir up trouble, of course.
King Arthur II
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So no wars won by Hannibal that you can list.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Eagles, name the adversary Caesar faced who was the equal of Marcellus, Nero, Quintus Fabius Maximus or Scipio Africanus.
Take your time.
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Puigdemont blinked first, now treading a fine line between going to prison or getting lynched by his supporters.kle4 said:
Sounds like they are confused, which probably means it was a well done statement from catalonia, at least in terms of them batting the ball back and forth.Slackbladder said:AFP news agencyVERIFIED ACCOUNT @AFP 3 mins3 minutes ago
#BREAKING Spain PM asks Catalan leader to clarify if he declared independence
Great,so the Spainish PM is turning up the heat again.0 -
Mr. Eagles, I said above, he completed the conquest of Iberia.
The fact is that Hannibal in defeat was more glorious (and alive) than Caesar in victory. To defeat Hannibal took the utter devotion and all the resources of the Roman Republic in its pomp, including numerous very skilled generals. Caesar managed to beat some barbarians in Gaul, and a predictable old man in the Civil War.
What ambush did Caesar achieve to match Cannae? What audacious march to match crossing the Alps in winter, with elephants? What battle can rank alongside Cannae?
Or let us look at vice. Which general committed genocide against people with whom he was supposed to be conducting peace talks?0 -
From what I've read here and elsewhere, I fear that people who liked the original and agreed with its hype, will love the remake - and that's fine. The question is whether it will garner large numbers of new converts.Morris_Dancer said:So, the new Blade Runner film is Marmite, then?
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What about those who:TheScreamingEagles said:
No, only the terminally stupid don't like it.Morris_Dancer said:So, the new Blade Runner film is Marmite, then?
1) can't be bothered to go to see it; or
2) would prefer to listen to Radiohead on loop while they iron their socks for three hours; or
3) don't see it on principle because the greater the hype the worse the film is likely to be; or
4) have noticed that none of Adeel Akhtar, Kayvan Novak, Jack O'Connell, John Boyega, Luke Treadaway, or the sainted Riz are in it and therefore it can't be that good?0 -
When ?TheScreamingEagles said:
If its this year I'm going to 'fall through the middle' of my Hills and Ladbrokes bets on the matter.0 -
Indeed. What is also known is the best way to teach a group of eg, Polish children to speak English is via a trained Native Speaker speaking English to them, not a Polish, English as a Second Language, teacher.Elliot said:
Which is crazy. Immersion is the best way to learn a foreign language. Admittedly, that can be hard in classes where ESL kids are the majority.Mortimer said:
The underestimation of the costs of immigration on the education sector is huge, IMO.Dubliner said:
You should add say £1500 to the above for Vat and excise duties. If it's a single man, the state is ahead. A family with 3 children at school less so. Perhaps this has a bearing on the Government's attitude to family rights.TonyE said:The argument that immigration doesn't affect the jobs market I think is incorrect.
The real effect has been on productivity. Why should I increase my productivity with a piece of machinery, when there is a surplus of cheap labour which can do the job and are easy to get rid of (much easier than a large or specific capital asset). And if that surplus keeps growing, then it's much easier to put off capital investment because wages for manual tasks are depressed. Productivity increases drive wage increases or consumer choice through price competition. We imported our 'competition' through China pricing, but that gain is now over.
Also, the tax take from a minimum wage worker is fairly low. If that minimum wage worker requires housing but cannot afford it, the state will subsidise his low wage to pay his rent, put his children through school, look after his health, and pay his pension. The employer benefits, not the employee - as he no longer has to pay a wage commensurate to the cost of living - he does not have to raise his productivity to afford it.
Minimum wage worker on a 40hr/p/w - £15,600
Tax threshold £11,500
Ni Threshold 8164.
Total earnings related taxes = £1710
Then the question has to be, how much do the services that this individual has access to cost? How much is lost to the exchequer because productivity investment has been diverted into low tax yield employment? How many more people are on minimum wage because of the ever increasing labour force?
As an example, we're quite literally employing Romanian/Polish/other language teachers to teach English to those who don't have it as a first language.0 -
Given Macron has already effectively given Trump a state visit to France looks a bit ridiculous on our part nowTheScreamingEagles said:0 -
I didn't think the original was very good, and found the new one an improvement. It's definitely good, but it has issues. Visual effects are not one of them.JosiasJessop said:
From what I've read here and elsewhere, I fear that people who liked the original and agreed with its hype, will love the remake - and that's fine. The question is whether it will garner large numbers of new converts.Morris_Dancer said:So, the new Blade Runner film is Marmite, then?
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Hannibal's defeat in the Second Punic War ultimately led to the wipe out of Carthage, Julius Caesar never inflicted that on his people did he?Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Eagles, I said above, he completed the conquest of Iberia.
The fact is that Hannibal in defeat was more glorious (and alive) than Caesar in victory. To defeat Hannibal took the utter devotion and all the resources of the Roman Republic in its pomp, including numerous very skilled generals. Caesar managed to beat some barbarians in Gaul, and a predictable old man in the Civil War.
What ambush did Caesar achieve to match Cannae? What audacious march to match crossing the Alps in winter, with elephants? What battle can rank alongside Cannae?
Or let us look at vice. Which general committed genocide against people with whom he was supposed to be conducting peace talks?0 -
Trump visit early 2018 apparently,0
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Wouldn't stop so many complaints about us embarrassing ourselves in front of the world, 'look who we make friends with' and all that. Which would be silly given where's he been and how he's been received already, but we know what the reaction would be.HYUFD said:
Given Macron has already effectively given Trump a state visit to France looks a bit ridiculous on our part nowTheScreamingEagles said:0 -
Off-topic:
The BBC have now started asking me to log in to use iPlayer, and I have to give them my date of birth and postcode.
B'stards.0 -
That’d be good. PB discussions the accuracy or otherwise of that could rival an AV thread!David_Evershed said:
How about Arthur?OldKingCole said:
He’s got quite a lot of names, but William isn’t one of them. He could decide to use Philip as a regnal name!Pro_Rata said:
Not such a major change if it is simply Charles deciding to call himself William as king (and perhaps hoping nobody will notice).OldKingCole said:
I didn’t write any changes. I referred to major changes. There’s a difference.PAW said:OldKingCole - isn't that just a device to give the minority that does very well from the status quo the power to block change? Would you say a political party getting 65.9% of the vote should be allowed to make any changes?
But, taking the point would I say that nationalisation of the railways was a major change? No
Would I say that declaring that the next Monarch will be William V, not Charles IV was major? Yes.
That might stir up trouble, of course.
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Mr. Eagles, the end of the Republic in chaotic fashion was not a good thing for the Romans.
Also, you may recall that the Civil War (so entitled because it was a civil war) did involve him making war on his countrymen, not something Hannibal ever did.0 -
Like a lot of films then.Morris_Dancer said:So, the new Blade Runner film is Marmite, then?
Sequels to revered films always provide interesting discussions and insights. I've had discussions with people who have the mindset that the film they are going to see can't possibly be as good as the first one (reminds me of the Alien vs Aliens debates that are still going on all these years later). I think there is an inbuilt culture that sequels are just automatically inferior, because there have been lots and lots of examples of it being actually true.
But there are rare occasions when a sequel can be just as good or almost as good and for me personally this was one of them.0 -
I'd sort of assumed that Charles was planning to be George VII. Isn't that the general assumption?0
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Will we, the public. have an opportunity to ‘welcome’? I’m already thinking about a suitable placard!Pulpstar said:Trump visit early 2018 apparently,
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In the middle of EURef2?Pulpstar said:Trump visit early 2018 apparently,
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Allegedly.AlastairMeeks said:I'd sort of assumed that Charles was planning to be George VII. Isn't that the general assumption?
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His staff denied it a while back, and I did read somewhere, now he wants only one royal George, so Prince George has put the kybosh on that.AlastairMeeks said:I'd sort of assumed that Charles was planning to be George VII. Isn't that the general assumption?
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'We shall overcomb'OldKingCole said:
Will we, the public. have an opportunity to ‘welcome’? I’m already thinking about a suitable placard!Pulpstar said:Trump visit early 2018 apparently,
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Universal credit is going to be the new poll tax.0
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If original, I tip my hat to you sir.TheScreamingEagles said:
'We shall overcomb'OldKingCole said:
Will we, the public. have an opportunity to ‘welcome’? I’m already thinking about a suitable placard!Pulpstar said:Trump visit early 2018 apparently,
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Mr. Eagles, could pave the way for King Arthur.0
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Godfather-Godfather2 and Alien-Aliens is a good starting point. Just hope they don't do a third, on those precedents.....jonny83 said:
Like a lot of films then.Morris_Dancer said:So, the new Blade Runner film is Marmite, then?
Sequels to revered films always provide interesting discussions and insights. I've had discussions with people who have the mindset that the film they are going to see can't possibly be as good as the first one (reminds me of the Alien vs Aliens debates that are still going on all these years later). I think there is an inbuilt culture that sequels are just automatically inferior, because there have been lots and lots of examples of it being actually true.
But there are rare occasions when a sequel can be just as good or almost as good and for me personally this was one of them.
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Taking the simplest, most efficient, and least expensive solution available at the time?MarqueeMark said:
Kind of makes you wonder - how the fuck did we get locked into a system like that in the first place then? Who is standing up to take the credit for that? (No, sit down Mr. Clegg. You really weren't that powerful.)Scott_P said:
If you have a single authority or agreement covering 28 countries to sign, why would you decide to separately set up 28 individual national authorities to regulate exactly the same thing with exactly the same criteria and agreed to have exactly the same output. Or sign 28 individual national agreements.
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Indeed. The public has little idea yet of the cuts to working tax and child tax credit that UC involves. There is going to be hell to pay when the cuts hit...TheScreamingEagles said:Universal credit is going to be the new poll tax.
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It does sound like one of my awesomely witty puns, but I saw it on a placard during a protest in Manchester earlier on this year.David_Evershed said:
If original, I tip my hat to you sir.TheScreamingEagles said:
'We shall overcomb'OldKingCole said:
Will we, the public. have an opportunity to ‘welcome’? I’m already thinking about a suitable placard!Pulpstar said:Trump visit early 2018 apparently,
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PM Doesn't sound very convincing. UC helpline costs are shocking if true. If it is anything like the old DWP line, 30 mins. on hold was far from unusual.TheScreamingEagles said:Universal credit is going to be the new poll tax.
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I don't think so. Benefits and taxes are seen very differently. But the Government do need to get/stay on top of it.TheScreamingEagles said:Universal credit is going to be the new poll tax.
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I'd agree as well. In OxWAb, I found talking about non-Brexit policies (eg a penny on tax for the NHS) to be far more useful, and when I did get drawn onto Brexit, I focused on the Single Market aspect.NickPalmer said:
Anecdotally I think that's right. Campaigning in a safe WWC seat and a marginal suburban seat (Nottingham N and Broxtowe), I rarely found Brexit coming up as an issue - from memory only about four voters mentioned it spontaneously. My impression is that most people felt it was a settled issue and so the election was about something else, such as care home costs or the NHS or May's stable nature or Corbyn's suitability as PM - opinions on all these things evolved during the campaign, as we've discussed. Clearly there were different swings among Remain and Leave voters, but I'm not sure they were all caused by Brexit - rather, a lot of ABC1 Remain voters went off the Tories for other reasons.MarqueeMark said:
The crazy thing about May's June Brexit election was that there was nothing to talk about on Brexit when Labour and the Tories had not a fag paper between them. So some bright spark thought they should air their half-thought-through ideas on terminal care costs.Elliot said:
The effect of the dementia tax are very clear as have election polls from both the period where May was backing hard Brexit and no dementia tax, and from the period where May was backing hard Brexit and the dementia taxHYUFD said:
So over the campaign Labour gained 8% from non Tory Remain voters and only 5% from Tory Remain voters. The Tories had already gained most of the UKIP Leave voters who voted for them before the campaign. So it was still likely the dementia tax and not Brexit which cost the Tories in the campaignScott_P said:
https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/917876267256569856Richard_Tyndall said:I was not the one trying to draw unsupported conclusions from the election results. That was the idiotic Anna Soubry. She is the one claiming the loss of the majority was due to people not wanting Brexit. Conveniently ignoring all those UKIP supporters who voted Labour safe in the knowledge they had promised a hard Brexit.
The June election was about everything but Brexit.0 -
Who is Lindsay Logan?TheScreamingEagles said:
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Not as far as I can see. Reviews from both the critics and the public are overwhelmingly positive, generally ravingly so. That includes amongst those who did not see the original. Box office wise it suffers from being long (committing around 3 1/2 hours to a film including trailers and ads is a lot for many people these days) and also from the claim made before the weekend that it will take $50 million in its opening weekend in the US - which came from a couple of newspapers not from the studio. In the end it has done very well and is number 1 on the charts and made about $35 million in the US which is still good numbers.Morris_Dancer said:So, the new Blade Runner film is Marmite, then?
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My friend works at job centre plus that has rolled it out, it keeps her awake at night.dixiedean said:
Doesn't sound convincing. UC helpline costs are shocking if true. If it is anything like the old DWP line, 30 mins. on hold was far from unusual.TheScreamingEagles said:Universal credit is going to be the new poll tax.
On this topic.
@JenWilliamsMEN: Emailed a contact at a homeless charity today about Universal Credit. Probably the bluntest assessment yet
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I wondered who would be the first to spot that.OldKingCole said:
That’d be good. PB discussions the accuracy or otherwise of that could rival an AV thread!David_Evershed said:
How about Arthur?OldKingCole said:
He’s got quite a lot of names, but William isn’t one of them. He could decide to use Philip as a regnal name!Pro_Rata said:
Not such a major change if it is simply Charles deciding to call himself William as king (and perhaps hoping nobody will notice).OldKingCole said:
I didn’t write any changes. I referred to major changes. There’s a difference.PAW said:OldKingCole - isn't that just a device to give the minority that does very well from the status quo the power to block change? Would you say a political party getting 65.9% of the vote should be allowed to make any changes?
But, taking the point would I say that nationalisation of the railways was a major change? No
Would I say that declaring that the next Monarch will be William V, not Charles IV was major? Yes.
That might stir up trouble, of course.
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When they migrate existing claimants who receive child tax credits and working tax credit , it will start to become even a bigger problem.TheScreamingEagles said:Universal credit is going to be the new poll tax.
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I decline to believe that the brainchild of The Quiet Man could be flawed in any repect whatever. The tories may be unsentimental about sacking leaders, but they aren't unsentimental enough afterwards.TheScreamingEagles said:Universal credit is going to be the new poll tax.
55p a minute helpline almost unbelievable.
"welcome 3 m more employed" just embarrassing.
We cannot go on like this.0 -
UC is, as I have been occasionally bleating on about for months, a massive unexploded bomb under the Tories.dixiedean said:
PM Doesn't sound very convincing. UC helpline costs are shocking if true. If it is anything like the old DWP line, 30 mins. on hold was far from unusual.TheScreamingEagles said:Universal credit is going to be the new poll tax.
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As far as point 3 goes I would suggest that whilst that rule is generally right this is indeed the exception.TOPPING said:
What about those who:TheScreamingEagles said:
No, only the terminally stupid don't like it.Morris_Dancer said:So, the new Blade Runner film is Marmite, then?
1) can't be bothered to go to see it; or
2) would prefer to listen to Radiohead on loop while they iron their socks for three hours; or
3) don't see it on principle because the greater the hype the worse the film is likely to be; or
4) have noticed that none of Adeel Akhtar, Kayvan Novak, Jack O'Connell, John Boyega, Luke Treadaway, or the sainted Riz are in it and therefore it can't be that good?0 -
Not in Spain 1 visit, Holland (Schipol) x4 visits, Germany 3 visits, France 2 visits or Italy 1 visit.HHemmelig said:Coming through passport control at Schipol this morning, the burly officer saw I had a British passport and said in a rather menacing tone "where's your EU visa?". Any other regular travellers getting this kind of treatment in the EU27? I'm noticing it more and more.
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Is "more people visiting A&E" necessarily a good soundbite?
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If Charles chose Philip as his Regal name, would he be Philip I or Philip II?0
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blimey, corbyn has mentioned the last labour government.
that'll be those capitalist running dogs blair and brown?0 -
Terminator 2 was better than the original.0
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Sorry @TSE missed PM from my original post. Meant it was she who didn't sound convincing, not your good self!TheScreamingEagles said:
My friend works at job centre plus that has rolled it out, it keeps her awake at night.dixiedean said:
Doesn't sound convincing. UC helpline costs are shocking if true. If it is anything like the old DWP line, 30 mins. on hold was far from unusual.TheScreamingEagles said:Universal credit is going to be the new poll tax.
On this topic.
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No it isn't, once the teething problems are ended it will end the current scandal where you can lose all your benefits from just a few hours workrottenborough said:
UC is, as I have been occasionally bleating on about for months, a massive unexploded bomb under the Tories.dixiedean said:
PM Doesn't sound very convincing. UC helpline costs are shocking if true. If it is anything like the old DWP line, 30 mins. on hold was far from unusual.TheScreamingEagles said:Universal credit is going to be the new poll tax.
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He lived 16 years after his major defeat whereas Caesar lived only 5 years after victory over his opponents....TheScreamingEagles said:
How many wars did Hannibal win?Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Eagles, that's a bit rude.
And I'm unconvinced someone who thinks Caesar was a better general than Hannibal should run around criticising the intellectual capacity of other people.0 -
Probably just getting some practice in for March 2019 onwards.philiph said:
Not in Spain 1 visit, Holland (Schipol) x4 visits, Germany 3 visits, France 2 visits or Italy 1 visit.HHemmelig said:Coming through passport control at Schipol this morning, the burly officer saw I had a British passport and said in a rather menacing tone "where's your EU visa?". Any other regular travellers getting this kind of treatment in the EU27? I'm noticing it more and more.
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Understatement post of the year award!!!Yorkcity said:
When they migrate existing claimants who receive child tax credits and working tax credit , it will start to become even a bigger problem.TheScreamingEagles said:Universal credit is going to be the new poll tax.
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Maybe he could be Old King Cole the Second?AlastairMeeks said:I'd sort of assumed that Charles was planning to be George VII. Isn't that the general assumption?
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Mr. Eagles, there was a report on the news about that.
Why is there a six week delay when going onto UC?0 -
Not for a movie which cost as much as it did. It's not a flop like valerian, lone ranger or John Carter, but it was still below modest predictions.Richard_Tyndall said:
Not as far as I can see. Reviews from both the critics and the public are overwhelmingly positive, generally ravingly so. That includes amongst those who did not see the original. Box office wise it suffers from being long (committing around 3 1/2 hours to a film including trailers and ads is a lot for many people these days) and also from the claim made before the weekend that it will take $50 million in its opening weekend in the US - which came from a couple of newspapers not from the studio. In the end it has done very well and is number 1 on the charts and made about $35 million in the US which is still good numbers.Morris_Dancer said:So, the new Blade Runner film is Marmite, then?
Though I've seen an argument that's good. It will probably break even with international markets giving it a profit even with what must be a large marketing budget, but if it made oodles of money there'd probably be quick sequels, loads planned, which is rarely good for quality.
As it is it is good, it will be well received, and they'll not rush sequels.0 -
The regnal name Charles chooses should reflect wider British society.
King Mohammed I sounds pretty good.0 -
I don't use it, they have no need for that informationJosiasJessop said:Off-topic:
The BBC have now started asking me to log in to use iPlayer, and I have to give them my date of birth and postcode.
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The poll tax not everyone and especially annoyed the middle class unless they were very wealthy hence the Tory poll rating nosedive as a result, UC only affects the poor and unemployed who tend to vote Labour and longer term it will benefit them by getting more of them into employment as is already starting to occurTheScreamingEagles said:Universal credit is going to be the new poll tax.
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HYUFD said:
No it isn't, once the teething problems are ended it will end the current scandal where you can lose all your benefits from just a few hours workrottenborough said:
UC is, as I have been occasionally bleating on about for months, a massive unexploded bomb under the Tories.dixiedean said:
PM Doesn't sound very convincing. UC helpline costs are shocking if true. If it is anything like the old DWP line, 30 mins. on hold was far from unusual.TheScreamingEagles said:Universal credit is going to be the new poll tax.
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Lud would have been more Charles's style, I'd have thought.David_Evershed said:
Maybe he could be Old King Cole the Second?AlastairMeeks said:I'd sort of assumed that Charles was planning to be George VII. Isn't that the general assumption?
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I know, let's leave the WTO. Oh shit, other nations can trade with us how they see fit without having to apply WTO rules. Hell, those tariffs are well steep. The economy has tanked. Just goes to prove how much of our sovereignty we'd given to the WTO. Shows we were right to get out all along. (Contentedly pulls piece of stale untoasted bread from the dying embers of his fire).Andy_Cooke said:
Taking the simplest, most efficient, and least expensive solution available at the time?MarqueeMark said:
Kind of makes you wonder - how the fuck did we get locked into a system like that in the first place then? Who is standing up to take the credit for that? (No, sit down Mr. Clegg. You really weren't that powerful.)Scott_P said:
If you have a single authority or agreement covering 28 countries to sign, why would you decide to separately set up 28 individual national authorities to regulate exactly the same thing with exactly the same criteria and agreed to have exactly the same output. Or sign 28 individual national agreements.
I fear the stage of virtuous masochism is rapidly taking grip on Leaverland.0 -
But he set the stage for an empire to last 1000 years. Yes, his immediate successor forged the new system, but off the back of what he did.sarissa said:
He lived 16 years after his major defeat whereas Caesar lived only 5 years after victory over his opponents....TheScreamingEagles said:
How many wars did Hannibal win?Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Eagles, that's a bit rude.
And I'm unconvinced someone who thinks Caesar was a better general than Hannibal should run around criticising the intellectual capacity of other people.0 -
Third actually. And I’ve got a son who has eyes on that title.David_Evershed said:
Maybe he could be Old King Cole the Second?AlastairMeeks said:I'd sort of assumed that Charles was planning to be George VII. Isn't that the general assumption?
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It is supposed to mimic the 6 weeks before payday when you get a job. It is supposed, therefore to be good for you. Course there used to be "run-on" benefits, to tide people over when taking full time work.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Eagles, there was a report on the news about that.
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At the moment the EU is annoyed with us, if we snub Trump that is the US administration annoyed with us so we end up Britain no mates with our 2 largest trading partnerskle4 said:
Wouldn't stop so many complaints about us embarrassing ourselves in front of the world, 'look who we make friends with' and all that. Which would be silly given where's he been and how he's been received already, but we know what the reaction would be.HYUFD said:
Given Macron has already effectively given Trump a state visit to France looks a bit ridiculous on our part nowTheScreamingEagles said:0 -
No. It effects people on working class tax credit and child tax credit. How many people is that?HYUFD said:
The poll tax not everyone and especially annoyed the middle class unless they were very wealthy hence the Tory poll rating nosedive as a result, UC only affects the poor and unemployed who tend to vote Labour and longer term it will benefit them by getting more of them into employment as is already starting to occurTheScreamingEagles said:Universal credit is going to be the new poll tax.
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Fair enough. He would only be naming himself after an ancestor.TheScreamingEagles said:The regnal name Charles chooses should reflect wider British society.
King Mohammed I sounds pretty good.0 -
Very true existing claimants with no change in circumstances are due to be migrated between July 19 and march 22.This is like a slow multiple car crash on the motorway.rottenborough said:
Indeed. The public has little idea yet of the cuts to working tax and child tax credit that UC involves. There is going to be hell to pay when the cuts hit...TheScreamingEagles said:Universal credit is going to be the new poll tax.
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Interesting to see PMQ's all about UC. Brainchild of IDS. He gets up to bang on about Brexit.
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You don't understand that UC is impacting people in employment, including people who vote Tory.HYUFD said:
The poll tax not everyone and especially annoyed the middle class unless they were very wealthy hence the Tory poll rating nosedive as a result, UC only affects the poor and unemployed who tend to vote Labour and longer term it will benefit them by getting more of them into employment as is already starting to occurTheScreamingEagles said:Universal credit is going to be the new poll tax.
You have stood for elected office for the Tories (and may do so again) how do think your comments would go down with the voters if you keep on bleating that UC affects people people who generally vote Labour.0 -
@bbclaurak: IDS trolling Hammond on no deal prep cash0
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Sone people having problems with a system, and trick rollouts, don't mean a policy or system is without merit, and the public have been supportive of a lot tougher approaches on benefits. I'm reserving judgement for now. That it will be hated is itself irrelevant, if it works in the end.0
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Don't give him ideas....TheScreamingEagles said:The regnal name Charles chooses should reflect wider British society.
King Mohammed I sounds pretty good.0 -
If we hadn't to be really bold, he'd go for King Cromwell I.Carolus_Rex said:
Fair enough. He would only be naming himself after an ancestor.TheScreamingEagles said:The regnal name Charles chooses should reflect wider British society.
King Mohammed I sounds pretty good.
Could say he was honouring James Cromwell who played Prince Philip in The Queen.0 -
Timed beautifully for the run-in to GE 2021/22.Yorkcity said:
Very true existing claimants with no change in circumstances are due to be migrated between July 19 and march 22.This is like a slow multiple car crash on the motorway.rottenborough said:
Indeed. The public has little idea yet of the cuts to working tax and child tax credit that UC involves. There is going to be hell to pay when the cuts hit...TheScreamingEagles said:Universal credit is going to be the new poll tax.
Although they will pause/change it. We just have to endure the months of "there will be no change" until there is one.0 -
As a Republican, I'm giving him the best possible advice.MarqueeMark said:
Don't give him ideas....TheScreamingEagles said:The regnal name Charles chooses should reflect wider British society.
King Mohammed I sounds pretty good.0 -
Quite probably. They don't have numbers to upset their own MPs and a lot will not hold firm.rottenborough said:
Timed beautifully for the run-in to GE 2021/22.Yorkcity said:
Very true existing claimants with no change in circumstances are due to be migrated between July 19 and march 22.This is like a slow multiple car crash on the motorway.rottenborough said:
Indeed. The public has little idea yet of the cuts to working tax and child tax credit that UC involves. There is going to be hell to pay when the cuts hit...TheScreamingEagles said:Universal credit is going to be the new poll tax.
Although they will pause/change it. We just have to endure the months of "there will be no change" until there is one.0 -
Honestly, the way the Tories are running things at the moment, I wouldn't be surprised if half the Cabinet are in fact deep sleepers for Jezza's Marxism party.TheScreamingEagles said:
You don't understand that UC is impacting people in employment, including people who vote Tory.HYUFD said:
The poll tax not everyone and especially annoyed the middle class unless they were very wealthy hence the Tory poll rating nosedive as a result, UC only affects the poor and unemployed who tend to vote Labour and longer term it will benefit them by getting more of them into employment as is already starting to occurTheScreamingEagles said:Universal credit is going to be the new poll tax.
You have stood for elected office for the Tories (and may do so again) how do think your comments would go down with the voters if you keep on bleating that UC affects people people who generally vote Labour.
They seem determined to ensure he wins.0 -
That's just silly - since when is the regnal name a surname?TheScreamingEagles said:
If we hadn't to be really bold, he'd go for King Cromwell I.Carolus_Rex said:
Fair enough. He would only be naming himself after an ancestor.TheScreamingEagles said:The regnal name Charles chooses should reflect wider British society.
King Mohammed I sounds pretty good.
Could say he was honouring James Cromwell who played Prince Philip in The Queen.0 -
Some of those $50m claims will be from people who didn't realise it was so long - and therefore would have fewer screenings over the weekend.Richard_Tyndall said:
Not as far as I can see. Reviews from both the critics and the public are overwhelmingly positive, generally ravingly so. That includes amongst those who did not see the original. Box office wise it suffers from being long (committing around 3 1/2 hours to a film including trailers and ads is a lot for many people these days) and also from the claim made before the weekend that it will take $50 million in its opening weekend in the US - which came from a couple of newspapers not from the studio. In the end it has done very well and is number 1 on the charts and made about $35 million in the US which is still good numbers.Morris_Dancer said:So, the new Blade Runner film is Marmite, then?
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The people most affected by UC are DE voters who voted for Corbyn and who longer term UC will help to enter the workplace rather than be solely reliant on benefits thus making them more likely to vote Tory than they were previously.TheScreamingEagles said:
You don't understand that UC is impacting people in employment, including people who vote Tory.HYUFD said:
The poll tax not everyone and especially annoyed the middle class unless they were very wealthy hence the Tory poll rating nosedive as a result, UC only affects the poor and unemployed who tend to vote Labour and longer term it will benefit them by getting more of them into employment as is already starting to occurTheScreamingEagles said:Universal credit is going to be the new poll tax.
You have stood for elected office for the Tories (and may do so again) how do think your comments would go down with the voters if you keep on bleating that UC affects people people who generally vote Labour.
I don't disagree in the short term the delays in benefit payments under UC need to be tackled, which Gauke already is making progress on as he told the Tory conference but longer term UC will be a net positive0 -
That stands all the "Agent Corbyn" jokes from before the election on their heads.rottenborough said:
Honestly, the way the Tories are running things at the moment, I wouldn't be surprised if half the Cabinet are in fact deep sleepers for Jezza's Marxism party.TheScreamingEagles said:
You don't understand that UC is impacting people in employment, including people who vote Tory.HYUFD said:
The poll tax not everyone and especially annoyed the middle class unless they were very wealthy hence the Tory poll rating nosedive as a result, UC only affects the poor and unemployed who tend to vote Labour and longer term it will benefit them by getting more of them into employment as is already starting to occurTheScreamingEagles said:Universal credit is going to be the new poll tax.
You have stood for elected office for the Tories (and may do so again) how do think your comments would go down with the voters if you keep on bleating that UC affects people people who generally vote Labour.
They seem determined to ensure he wins.0 -
The tories are fecked, the country is fecked, we are all fecked. We really are.rottenborough said:
Honestly, the way the Tories are running things at the moment, I wouldn't be surprised if half the Cabinet are in fact deep sleepers for Jezza's Marxism party.TheScreamingEagles said:
You don't understand that UC is impacting people in employment, including people who vote Tory.HYUFD said:
The poll tax not everyone and especially annoyed the middle class unless they were very wealthy hence the Tory poll rating nosedive as a result, UC only affects the poor and unemployed who tend to vote Labour and longer term it will benefit them by getting more of them into employment as is already starting to occurTheScreamingEagles said:Universal credit is going to be the new poll tax.
You have stood for elected office for the Tories (and may do so again) how do think your comments would go down with the voters if you keep on bleating that UC affects people people who generally vote Labour.
They seem determined to ensure he wins.0 -
Mr. Dean, cheers for that answer. Seems bloody daft to me, though.0
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When William was born there were rumours that Diana wanted to call him Oliver. Not sure what she was trying to say there!kle4 said:
That's just silly - since when is the regnal name a surname?TheScreamingEagles said:
If we hadn't to be really bold, he'd go for King Cromwell I.Carolus_Rex said:
Fair enough. He would only be naming himself after an ancestor.TheScreamingEagles said:The regnal name Charles chooses should reflect wider British society.
King Mohammed I sounds pretty good.
Could say he was honouring James Cromwell who played Prince Philip in The Queen.0 -
No denial from you I see to that pointrottenborough said:HYUFD said:
No it isn't, once the teething problems are ended it will end the current scandal where you can lose all your benefits from just a few hours workrottenborough said:
UC is, as I have been occasionally bleating on about for months, a massive unexploded bomb under the Tories.dixiedean said:
PM Doesn't sound very convincing. UC helpline costs are shocking if true. If it is anything like the old DWP line, 30 mins. on hold was far from unusual.TheScreamingEagles said:Universal credit is going to be the new poll tax.
Quite brilliant. Keep whistling...0 -
Yes but that is why in the main you support the government of the day , your antenna to see a problem coming down the track is not been received properly.They need to make sure the implementation works before further rollout to millions of people.kle4 said:Sone people having problems with a system, and trick rollouts, don't mean a policy or system is without merit, and the public have been supportive of a lot tougher approaches on benefits. I'm reserving judgement for now. That it will be hated is itself irrelevant, if it works in the end.
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rottenborough said:
Indeed. The public has little idea yet of the cuts to working tax and child tax credit that UC involves. There is going to be hell to pay when the cuts hit...TheScreamingEagles said:Universal credit is going to be the new poll tax.
Change ? Change ? We can't have change ? I don't like change....
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Indeed. The fact that the PM is now saying more than 50% are getting advance payments, means it is redundant, as well as bloody daft!Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Dean, cheers for that answer. Seems bloody daft to me, though.
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MikeSmithson said:
If Brexit happens then Tories out of power for generations.RoyalBlue said:If Brexit is betrayed, a Corbyn landslide is guaranteed. Leave voters will sit on their hands in their millions.
If you genuinely believed that then you should be cheering Brexit on.MikeSmithson said:
If Brexit happens then Tories out of power for generations.RoyalBlue said:If Brexit is betrayed, a Corbyn landslide is guaranteed. Leave voters will sit on their hands in their millions.
However I will grant you that for some Tories Brexit is more important than a having a Tory government so once the objective has been achieved keeping them on board may be not that straightforward.0
