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Citation required.....having trouble swallowing George's Humble Pie?
Incidentally, Labour won 5-0 in the annual Croydon Conservative v. Labour charity football match on Sunday.
why cant we have a Liverpool FC are crap thread ?
On topic, can't see how Boris has been 'damaged' (implication: will now never lead the party). Apart from HYUFD, surely we all fully appreciated that he was never going to win a leadership race given his lack of support in the PCP?
As for the suggestion that May caves in to pressure, surely it shows the opposite and that despite everything she won't be bullied into changing her mind? Because although Boris is no longer talking of resigning there is no suggestion that he has forced a change of policy.
If anything however that's more worrying given that good negotiators are willing to respond flexibly to changing circumstances.
If the speech is fumbled then I think the damage would be terminal quite quickly. But her weakness is not in set-piece speeches - more in spontaneous answers and interaction with people.
Shinji Okazaki tore them apart. We love that guy.
I remember when you Leavers said only a Leave victory would unite the Tory party.
So if you voted Leave you’re responsible for this thread.
Could've gone for Queen.
The Plotting Must Go On.
The Great Pretender [technically just Freddie Mercury].
Great King Rat.
Too Much Ambition Will Kill You.
Don't Stop Me Now.
I Want It All.
On a rather more serious note, sad to hear of the Mexican death toll. Seems to be nothing but floods, hurricanes and quakes recently.
I want it all
I want it all
and I want it er in 18 months time
The prime minister wasted a year indulging that tendency. One May loyalist describes frustration in cabinet committees when trying to get radical Brexit ministers to focus on detail. Every obstacle is belittled as a symptom of weak faith; every workaround is treated as a trap laid by unrepentant Europhiles seeking to abort the whole thing. No assurance by ex-remainers that they have accepted the referendum is trusted. This leads to a vicious cycle: the only people in government prepared to engage with the question of how Brexit might work are those who didn’t vote for it, which reinforces the zealots’ suspicion that the “softies” are closet saboteurs.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/sep/20/saboteurs-tory-hard-brexit-eu-boris-johnson-theresa-may
Being in my fifties I have of course long since formed an opinion on what the parties stand for and where I am likely to cast my vote. I was just trying to come at it with the fresh eyes of a young person getting interested in politics for the first time.
He seems to lack judgement as well as spine.
Who does she think is Dan Miller?
Of course it would be a lot, lot better if this was done behind doors rather than played out in the media. But that is the world that we live in.
There was a leadership election last year with around half a dozen candidates.
McD is clever. He might be up to the task.
The Tory campaign was a disgrage , It was born of arrogance and believing ludicrous polls.
I recall one Labour Cabinet Minister recalling that if the Soviet Union had invaded West Germany they'd have to get Vic Feather on side before responding.....
EDIT: That said, most of my winnings came on backing Labour, I only wish I'd bought them on the spread betting market.
I expect another election within 18 months, so Labours perpetual campaign is a sound idea. It keeps the troops engaged.
Trident will be thrown away on a permanent basis. The state, still heavily indebted after Labour's last stint, will have its deficit balloon rather than diminish. More blind eyes for cultural sensitivity, one imagines.
Given how much a pig's ear the Tories are making it and that we're overdue a recession, a Corbyn win really can't be ruled out. He is also much stronger in Labour than he was in June.
the true betting indicator ( what colour shirt do the champios wear ) is pointing to a conservative victory today
Liverpool = crap, Arsenal = double crap
top three teams blue red blue
all Labour's hopes rest on Mourinho
Indeed my record for absolute dead cert, not a shadow of a doubt, this is free money betting is actually 0/2.
Considerably worse than the times when I've said - this could be wrong, but I reckon x (Brexit, Obama re-election, Miliband 2015) - 2/3.
Have you noticed Manchester United fans have become even more racist after Brexit.
Cricket is the game for civilised people.
cricket is just boring as hell, I'm a hurling fan
30 Sinn Feiners bashing the bejasus out of each other with sticks for 70 minutes is the ultimate orangemans game
@Nick_Pettigrew:
"Yeah, don't plough up that bit of field over there, though"
"Why?"
"No reason"
https://twitter.com/GerryAdamsSF/status/910114451046768641
All I will say is that the Spanish government are doing their best to ensure Catalonia leaves Spain.
About to kick off at Turf Moor. Leeds fans chanting "We want Brexit, we want Trump, we hate this Sharia dump!" This is disgusting. #BURLEE
Workers and environmental protections sorted, and a less xenophobic policy towards our EU friends and neighbours. Sorting out generational unfairness too.
The Tories abandoned pretence at economic competence with Brexit. If we are going on a blow out budget, at least spend it on stuff worth having.
... Completely the same thing.
Dr. Foxinsox, Corbyn's a dangerous anti-British idiot. I hope we don't live to see the smoking ruin he would inflict upon this country.
Mr. Thompson, but do you think a vote will go ahead?
Mr. Dubliner, hope that sort of thing has ended, or at least diminished.
Theresa May’s Brexit supremo Olly Robbins is a former Soviet sympathiser who opposed capitalism, praised Soviet leaders and lamented the demise of Communist Russia, Guido can reveal.
As as a student at Hertford College, Oxford in the nineties, “Red Robbins” wrote an article in praise of Soviet Russia for the Oxford Reform Club magazine. In a rewriting of history that would have made Seumas Milne blush, the PM’s new star Number 10 hire wrote:
“The Russian state has endured more than any other major nation in the twentieth century, and has achieved more too… I would never disagree that some of the deeds done in the name of communism were evil, but it is as well to look at the era’s aims and achievements. First among these were the aims of free and fair education, housing and healthcare. These were also the main planks of the post-war consensus here in Britain, and could hardly be described as evil. What is more, they were achieved. More Russians can read than Britons, there are almost no homeless people in Moscow, unlike London… Another achievement was the making of a state, a world power indeed, and one that its people could be proud of. The Soviet leaders changed Russia from a backward peasant autocracy, despised by the West, into a technological giant at whom the world cowered in fear for half a century.”
Red Robbins then lamented the fall of the Soviet Union as meaning there is no longer an alternative to the real baddie: capitalism.
https://order-order.com/2017/09/19/red-robbins-mays-brexit-supremo-is-soviet-sympathiser-who-opposed-capitalism/
Why didn't we do this with our oil wealth?
Our state pension could have been, like, actually funded.
They still haven't got over the Century of Gold.
The Tories do not own Englishness.
The spotlight on TM today turns to her address at the United Nations over terrorism and in particular the role of facebook, twitter and social media in publication of terror information. She will share the address with Macron and the Italian PM.
She is putting herself on the global stage and it sets up her for her Florence speech
Whether you are a remainer, leaver or re-leaver (like myself) this has to be the biggest moment so far in Brexit
It would have been better to invest in infrastructure for the future.
I think the self-image of the Catalans as more cosmopolitan and sophisticated than their Castilian cousins is pretty common, but this is the people who, as recounted in Giles Tremlett's book 'Ghosts of Spain', think teaching immigrants Catalan expressions like 'treballar com un negro' is acceptable.
There is a hell of a storm building, and hurricaine Jezza will obliterate the Tories.