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Third like the Libdems

https://twitter.com/JoeTwyman/status/903603327530930176

Sean_F said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

https://twitter.com/JoeTwyman/status/903603327530930176

Do they think the assassination was a good thing, or a bad thing?

Either way, it's the EU's fault.

https://twitter.com/adamfleming/status/903607346668154880
https://twitter.com/StefanLeifert/status/903557218540429313

williamglenn said:

https://twitter.com/StefanLeifert/status/903557218540429313

They asked the wrong question. They should have asked: "Should Germany cover the cost to the EU budget if there's no deal with the UK?"

williamglenn said:

https://twitter.com/patrickwintour/status/903612783543148546

"Time is the fire in which we burn!"

Ruth keeps digging !
https://twitter.com/kapaterson/status/903611863795208193

Sean_F said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

https://twitter.com/JoeTwyman/status/903603327530930176

Do they think the assassination was a good thing, or a bad thing?

Bumping off Diana and Brexit are ways of taking back control.

574 days and 8 hours to go folks !

Magic story FPT
Pulpstar said:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-41122909

OAP 'reacts badly' to alcohol...

Must have been a good night

calum said:

Ruth keeps digging !
https://twitter.com/kapaterson/status/903611863795208193

She was dire on GMS this morning. Ranting and raving about building 8 new towns of social housing but having them all for sale and then when questioned about all the racists readmitted to party she lost and started on about six foot drunks with broken glasses etc. No wonder she has been hiding for 2 months.

williamglenn said:

It seems Davis has made up an anecdote about a European minister calling him a 'charming bastard' and it being on the front page of the FT. It turns out that person was him, and it wasn't anywhere near the front page.
https://twitter.com/hugorifkind/status/903612498825359361

Charming bastard or smarmy arsehole?

AlastairMeeks said:

Quite a small sample but Labour do seem to have had a good month in local by-elections. Their post-election energy seems to be continuing.

I doubt that the grassroots of the Labour party have ever been more energised than they are now.

williamglenn said:

It seems Davis has made up an anecdote about a European minister calling him a 'charming bastard' and it being on the front page of the FT. It turns out that person was him, and it wasn't anywhere near the front page.
https://twitter.com/hugorifkind/status/903612498825359361

I have completely changed my mind about Brexit because of this. Thank you for sharing.

Jonathan said:

williamglenn said:

It seems Davis has made up an anecdote about a European minister calling him a 'charming bastard' and it being on the front page of the FT. It turns out that person was him, and it wasn't anywhere near the front page.
https://twitter.com/hugorifkind/status/903612498825359361

Charming bastard or smarmy arsehole?

The Minister for Winging It.

The man who had years to learn how the EU works, how complex it would be to leave and what drives FTAs, but could not be arsed.

Jonathan said:

David Davis is an idiot. It's the only explanation for what's a going on.

If that is the case, how come the Remainers couldn't beat him then?

Mr. Topping, and yet, look at the alternative.

A self-declared friend of Hamas and Hezbollah.

Mortimer said:

Jonathan said:

David Davis is an idiot. It's the only explanation for what's a going on.

If that is the case, how come the Remainers couldn't beat him then?

a) opportunity to stick it to the man
b) don't like foreigners
c) reclaim sovereignty I*
d) reclaim sovereignty II**

*This group hadn't a clue what sovereignty meant
**This group new what it meant but, as per your hero DD, didn't understand that we possessed it all along*

*just that it didn't always seem like it, a bit like the world can seem flat if you are unaware of the reality of the situation.

TOPPING said:

**This group new what it meant but, as per your hero DD, didn't understand that we possessed it all along*

The argument is that we had sovereignty could leave all along? Doesn't sound very useful...

Jonathan said:

David Davis is an idiot. It's the only explanation for what's a going on.

You just realising that. He proved that long ago, your usual Tory windbag, full of wind and piss.

Morris_Dancer said:

Mr. Topping, and yet, look at the alternative.

A self-declared friend of Hamas and Hezbollah.

Very true

Mortimer said:

TOPPING said:

Mortimer said:

Jonathan said:

David Davis is an idiot. It's the only explanation for what's a going on.

If that is the case, how come the Remainers couldn't beat him then?

a) opportunity to stick it to the man
b) don't like foreigners
c) reclaim sovereignty I*
d) reclaim sovereignty II**

*This group hadn't a clue what sovereignty meant
**This group new what it meant but, as per your hero DD, didn't understand that we possessed it all along*

*just that it didn't always seem like it, a bit like the world can seem flat if you are unaware of the reality of the situation.

I'm going to keep refuting 'we had sovereignty all along'.

Because of EU membership we have laws that not only have to be obeyed, but were also made against our wishes and imposed upon us by those who we would never be able to vote out. That is not sovereignty.

Because of UK membership of the EU, they had to accept our participation in their lawmaking, with veto power in many areas. Perhaps the slogan should have been "Give away control"!

Morris_Dancer said:

Mr. Topping, and yet, look at the alternative.

A self-declared friend of Hamas and Hezbollah.

Morris you are beginning to sound like a TINA from the 1980s.

RobD said:

TOPPING said:

**This group new what it meant but, as per your hero DD, didn't understand that we possessed it all along*

The argument is that we had sovereignty could leave all along? Doesn't sound very useful...

Quite, it is a ridiculous argument:

A: "EU now controls X, I don't like it"
B: "No, we still have control because we retain the right to leave the EU"
A: "Can we leave the EU then?"
B: "NO!"
A: "So the EU does have control over X?"
B: "No, we still have control because we retain...."
(repeat ad infinitum)

Donald Trump in 1988 on Oprah Winfrey.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZpMJeynBeg

His views are consistent with 2017.

chrisoxon said:

RobD said:

TOPPING said:

**This group new what it meant but, as per your hero DD, didn't understand that we possessed it all along*

The argument is that we had sovereignty could leave all along? Doesn't sound very useful...

Quite, it is a ridiculous argument:

A: "EU now controls X, I don't like it"
B: "No, we still have control because we retain the right to leave the EU"
A: "Can we leave the EU then?"
B: "NO!"
A: "So the EU does have control over X?"
B: "No, we still have control because we retain...."
(repeat ad infinitum)

Like any club. I'm not sure you could walk into the pavilion as an MCC member wearing nothing but a big smile.

Modern international relations are all about pooling sovereignty to some degree.

That said North Korea's is pretty sovereign.

The Sueddeutsche Zeitung: May is lurching clueless into Brexit

http://www.sueddeutsche.de/politik/grossbritannien-may-und-ihre-minister-taumeln-ahnungslos-in-den-brexit-1.3647563

It ends on an optimistic note, saying that the UK has overcome countless crises and that hopefully May, Davis, Johnson and Fox will just be a footnote in our history.

TOPPING said:

chrisoxon said:

RobD said:

TOPPING said:

**This group new what it meant but, as per your hero DD, didn't understand that we possessed it all along*

The argument is that we had sovereignty could leave all along? Doesn't sound very useful...

Quite, it is a ridiculous argument:

A: "EU now controls X, I don't like it"
B: "No, we still have control because we retain the right to leave the EU"
A: "Can we leave the EU then?"
B: "NO!"
A: "So the EU does have control over X?"
B: "No, we still have control because we retain...."
(repeat ad infinitum)

Like any club. I'm not sure you could walk into the pavilion as an MCC member wearing nothing but a big smile.

Modern international relations are all about pooling sovereignty to some degree.

That said North Korea's is pretty sovereign.

“If you remove the English Remoaner army tomorrow and hoist the Saltire Union Jack over Edinburgh Castle the European Parliament's UK offices, unless you set about the organization of the Socialist Republic your efforts would be in vain. England Europe would still rule you. She would rule you through her capitalists, through her landlords, through her financiers, through the whole array of commercial and individualist institutions she has planted in this country and watered with the tears of our mothers and the blood of our martyrs.”

Mortimer said:

Jonathan said:

David Davis is an idiot. It's the only explanation for what's a going on.

If that is the case, how come the Remainers couldn't beat him then?

The Remainers were led by Cameron and Osborne, who thought they were playing cricket, when really they were playing polo. Then the Tory chums playing for the other side turned up with hand grenades. Small wonder the country is in such a mess.

So Leavers are more likely to be less educated, obese and conspiracy theorists.

That's quite the image that's being built up.

Morris_Dancer said:

Mr. Glenn, many vetoes? Many fewer since Brown reneged upon an election promise and threw them away.

Mr. City, do you disagree? I'm no fan of May, but the alternative is a man who admires (or admired, we have no idea if he's changed his mind because he won't say anything about) Venezuela's economic approach and has described men who throw political rivals and homosexuals from rooftops as friends.

I am no fan of either but hard to deny he offers an alternative to many, the few who are really concerned about his views on the middle East and South America would never consider in the main voting Labour.The constant derision of him in contrast to when you see him in interviews is stark.I consider him more naive than a supporter of the group's you describe .Somewhat of a latter day conscientious objector.

chrisoxon said:

TOPPING said:

chrisoxon said:

RobD said:

TOPPING said:

**This group new what it meant but, as per your hero DD, didn't understand that we possessed it all along*

The argument is that we had sovereignty could leave all along? Doesn't sound very useful...

Quite, it is a ridiculous argument:

A: "EU now controls X, I don't like it"
B: "No, we still have control because we retain the right to leave the EU"
A: "Can we leave the EU then?"
B: "NO!"
A: "So the EU does have control over X?"
B: "No, we still have control because we retain...."
(repeat ad infinitum)

Like any club. I'm not sure you could walk into the pavilion as an MCC member wearing nothing but a big smile.

Modern international relations are all about pooling sovereignty to some degree.

That said North Korea's is pretty sovereign.

So you finally accept that the line "we were always sovereign" is more spin than substance?

Not at all. We as a sovereign nation decided to join the club and as it turned out we as a sovereign nation decided to leave it.

We maintained our sovereignty throughout because we had signed up to a commonly-agreed set of rules which the club established for all members.

This is not tricky stuff, really. Could we zero-rate VAT on domestic energy supplies? No. Because we had decided to join a club wherein that was not allowed. Did that mean we were any less sovereign? Of course not. Can Barclays avoid MiFID's pre-trade transparency without using an official waiver? No. Does that make us any less sovereign? Well you tell me.

My reductio ad absurdum with North Korea was to illustrate what a country which doesn't want to join any club looks like.

Just another day in the PB bubble- Personal insults and abuse for Leavers, David Davis is an idiot and Brexit is going to be a disaster...

Did I miss anything?

Oh and hi, BTW

Winstanley said:

TOPPING said:

chrisoxon said:

RobD said:

TOPPING said:

**This group new what it meant but, as per your hero DD, didn't understand that we possessed it all along*

The argument is that we had sovereignty could leave all along? Doesn't sound very useful...

Quite, it is a ridiculous argument:

A: "EU now controls X, I don't like it"
B: "No, we still have control because we retain the right to leave the EU"
A: "Can we leave the EU then?"
B: "NO!"
A: "So the EU does have control over X?"
B: "No, we still have control because we retain...."
(repeat ad infinitum)

Like any club. I'm not sure you could walk into the pavilion as an MCC member wearing nothing but a big smile.

Modern international relations are all about pooling sovereignty to some degree.

That said North Korea's is pretty sovereign.

“If you remove the English Remoaner army tomorrow and hoist the Saltire Union Jack over Edinburgh Castle the European Parliament's UK offices, unless you set about the organization of the Socialist Republic your efforts would be in vain. England Europe would still rule you. She would rule you through her capitalists, through her landlords, through her financiers, through the whole array of commercial and individualist institutions she has planted in this country and watered with the tears of our mothers and the blood of our martyrs.”

There is a lot of truth to that.

I would rather be ruled by almost anyone in preference to JRM, Liam Fox and their little acolytes.

MTimT said:

TOPPING said:

chrisoxon said:

TOPPING said:

chrisoxon said:

RobD said:

TOPPING said:

**This group new what it meant but, as per your hero DD, didn't understand that we possessed it all along*

The argument is that we had sovereignty could leave all along? Doesn't sound very useful...

Quite, it is a ridiculous argument:

A: "EU now controls X, I don't like it"
B: "No, we still have control because we retain the right to leave the EU"
A: "Can we leave the EU then?"
B: "NO!"
A: "So the EU does have control over X?"
B: "No, we still have control because we retain...."
(repeat ad infinitum)

Like any club. I'm not sure you could walk into the pavilion as an MCC member wearing nothing but a big smile.

Modern international relations are all about pooling sovereignty to some degree.

That said North Korea's is pretty sovereign.

So you finally accept that the line "we were always sovereign" is more spin than substance?

Not at all. We as a sovereign nation decided to join the club and as it turned out we as a sovereign nation decided to leave it.

We maintained our sovereignty throughout because we had signed up to a commonly-agreed set of rules which the club established for all members.

This is not tricky stuff, really. Could we zero-rate VAT on domestic energy supplies? No. Because we had decided to join a club wherein that was not allowed. Did that mean we were any less sovereign? Of course not. Can Barclays avoid MiFID's pre-trade transparency without using an official waiver? No. Does that make us any less sovereign? Well you tell me.

My reductio ad absurdum with North Korea was to illustrate what a country which doesn't want to join any club looks like.

You could, instead, have chosen Switzerland as a country that choses not to join clubs ... or at least to do so very selectively.

Yes Switzerland is a good-ish example. One that DD ruled out emulating, that said.

TOPPING said:

NickPalmer said:

Morris_Dancer said:

Mr. Topping, and yet, look at the alternative.

A self-declared friend of Hamas and Hezbollah.

In fairness note that he's said it was an inappropriate word to use, and I don't think anyone really thinks he's a fan of all their policies. It would be accurate, though, to say that he's been consistently helpful in giving a hearing to groups critical of postwar Western policy, when most of us would have been more selective. In the age of President Trump, a reluctance to sign up for whatever the US does looks a lot healthier than it might have done 20 years ago. Boris's statement - explicitly with May's blessing - that it'd be very difficult to refuse a request from Trump for military action looks particularly unnerving these days.

Curiously, too, Corbyn's courteous instinct can be a problem, as it leads him not to deal with people with a long spoon - his default in talking to anyone at all is to be amicable, as Tories who've dealt with him personally will confirm.

Bollocks, Nick. He supported Hamas & Hezbollah because they were anti Israel.

To Corbyn, Israel = oppressive hegemonic western imperial oppressors.

Of course, to Hamas/Hezbollah, Israel = the Jews.

He applied the my enemy's enemy is my friend (literally) very very inappropriately. Or perhaps not, to him.

Are there any examples of him "courteously" telling the people he associates with that their views and policies are wrong and abhorrent? Or does his courtesy only go so far to explain why he is so often in their company or speaking at their rallies or going on foreign trips with them? Does his courtesy extend to " giving a hearing" to those who oppose such groups? Victims of Assad, for instance? Or Palestinians who oppose Hamas?

Does it not even give @NickPalmer the slightest concern that his party's leader freely chooses to go on foreign trips with Holocaust deniers? Not even the teensiest smidgen of concern?

This is something more than naivety on Corbyn's part. It goes to his judgment and, as far as the party he leads is concerned, it goes to whether they really believe and act on the values they claim to profess and which they hurl as a sword against others.

Easy for Labour to criticise a US President for not disassociating himself from people waving swastikas and railing against Jews taking them over. Apparently much harder for Labour to notice that their own leader chooses to go on trips with Holocaust deniers who share the same views about Jews as those horrid American Nazis.

AlastairMeeks said:

So Leavers are more likely to be less educated, obese and conspiracy theorists.

That's quite the image that's being built up.

Yeh, and quite a few of them to turned up to vote for the first time in their lives. Bloody nerve.

GIN1138 said:

Just another day in the PB bubble- Personal insults and abuse for Leavers, David Davis is an idiot and Brexit is going to be a disaster...

Did I miss anything?

Oh and hi, BTW

Hello GIN, just the usual handbags stuff, though Davis is at minimum an idiot and we are in the merde. Tories have a lot to answer for, thicker than mince.

Cyclefree said:

NickPalmer said:

In fairness note that he's said it was an inappropriate word to use, and I don't think anyone really thinks he's a fan of all their policies....

Into which of these categories does Corbyn's decision earlier this year, on the 22nd anniversary of the Srebrenica massacre in Bosnia (the cold-blooded murder of 7000 men and boys, the worst war crime in Europe since WW2) to have dinner with Marcus Papadopoulos, a renowned Srebrenica-denier and Assad apologist fall?

Corbyn himself has denied that genocide - of the Muslims of Kosovo - ever happened. Was this another example, Nick, of him "giving a hearing to groups critical of postwar Western policy" - the policy in this case being the US and allies intervening in Kosovo to save Muslims from murder and ethnic cleansing?

To be fair, this Papadopoulos character seems to get around politicians of all parties, Corbyn may not have been aware of his views any more than the rest: https://medium.com/@pitt_bob/marcus-papadopoulos-and-the-smearing-of-jeremy-corbyn-dcb226b85ba2

Do you have a link for Corbyn denying the killing of Muslims in Kosovo? I found this (https://www.ukalbanians.net/jeremy-corbyn-in-2004-had-dismissed-serbian-war-crimes-in-kosovo-as-a-fabrication/) but the motion it refers to has been misquoted. Straight after the reference to an untrue genocide the motion (https://www.parliament.uk/edm/2004-05/392) referred to:

'President Clinton's Secretary of Defense William Cohen claimed, entirely without foundation, that 'we've now seen about 100,000 military-aged [Albanian] men missing.....they may have been murdered' and that David Scheffer, the US ambassador-at-large for war crimes, announced with equal inaccuracy that as many as '225,000 ethnic Albanian men aged between 14 and 59' may have been killed'

Which in truth were both vastly inflated as a pretext for war. The motion doesn't refer to the Srebrenica massacre at all (which is a problem in itself) but I can't find anything where Corbyn denies it, and there's plenty of argument about whether it constitutes a 'genocide' or not which has more to do with political interpretation than the facts of the case.

malcolmg said:

GIN1138 said:

Just another day in the PB bubble- Personal insults and abuse for Leavers, David Davis is an idiot and Brexit is going to be a disaster...

Did I miss anything?

Oh and hi, BTW

Hello GIN, just the usual handbags stuff, though Davis is at minimum an idiot and we are in the merde. Tories have a lot to answer for, thicker than mince.

Afternoon Malc.

How's Scotland looking?

Scott_P said:

CarlottaVance said:

The humiliation that Remain lost to these people grows exponentially.....

@mrjamesob: This tweet is one year old this week. https://twitter.com/mrjamesob/status/772690990486413312

James O'Brien is a lying piece of shit. Anyone quoting him as a source or a commentator should be considered the same. The cap fits you well Scott.

TOPPING said:

chrisoxon said:

TOPPING said:

chrisoxon said:

RobD said:

TOPPING said:

**This group new what it meant but, as per your hero DD, didn't understand that we possessed it all along*

The argument is that we had sovereignty could leave all along? Doesn't sound very useful...

Quite, it is a ridiculous argument:

A: "EU now controls X, I don't like it"
B: "No, we still have control because we retain the right to leave the EU"
A: "Can we leave the EU then?"
B: "NO!"
A: "So the EU does have control over X?"
B: "No, we still have control because we retain...."
(repeat ad infinitum)

Like any club. I'm not sure you could walk into the pavilion as an MCC member wearing nothing but a big smile.

Modern international relations are all about pooling sovereignty to some degree.

That said North Korea's is pretty sovereign.

So you finally accept that the line "we were always sovereign" is more spin than substance?

Not at all. We as a sovereign nation decided to join the club and as it turned out we as a sovereign nation decided to leave it.

We maintained our sovereignty throughout because we had signed up to a commonly-agreed set of rules which the club established for all members.

This is not tricky stuff, really. Could we zero-rate VAT on domestic energy supplies? No. Because we had decided to join a club wherein that was not allowed. Did that mean we were any less sovereign? Of course not. Can Barclays avoid MiFID's pre-trade transparency without using an official waiver? No. Does that make us any less sovereign? Well you tell me.

My reductio ad absurdum with North Korea was to illustrate what a country which doesn't want to join any club looks like.

Sigh. And Topping wins the dunce hat for the day once again. I would explain it to you again in words of one syllable but you are genuinely too dumb to understand.

The local business directory that helped JR Hartley find his book on fly fishing is set to go out of print.

The Yellow Pages will no longer be published on paper from next year onwards, more than five decades after it launched in the UK.

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-41125865

I blame Brexit...

FrancisUrquhart said:

The local business directory that helped JR Hartley find his book on fly fishing is set to go out of print.

The Yellow Pages will no longer be published on paper from next year onwards, more than five decades after it launched in the UK.

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-41125865

I blame Brexit...

@dan_howells: The irony of having to Google the number for the Yellow Pages to confirm whether they're going out of print would make Morisette's head spin

Winstanley said:

Cyclefree said:

NickPalmer said:

To be fair, this Papadopoulos character seems to get around politicians of all parties, Corbyn may not have been aware of his views any more than the rest: https://medium.com/@pitt_bob/marcus-papadopoulos-and-the-smearing-of-jeremy-corbyn-dcb226b85ba2

Do you have a link for Corbyn denying the killing of Muslims in Kosovo? I found this (https://www.ukalbanians.net/jeremy-corbyn-in-2004-had-dismissed-serbian-war-crimes-in-kosovo-as-a-fabrication/) but the motion it refers to has been misquoted. Straight after the reference to an untrue genocide the motion (https://www.parliament.uk/edm/2004-05/392) referred to:

'President Clinton's Secretary of Defense William Cohen claimed, entirely without foundation, that 'we've now seen about 100,000 military-aged [Albanian] men missing.....they may have been murdered' and that David Scheffer, the US ambassador-at-large for war crimes, announced with equal inaccuracy that as many as '225,000 ethnic Albanian men aged between 14 and 59' may have been killed'

Which in truth were both vastly inflated as a pretext for war. The motion doesn't refer to the Srebrenica massacre at all (which is a problem in itself) but I can't find anything where Corbyn denies it, and there's plenty of argument about whether it constitutes a 'genocide' or not which has more to do with political interpretation than the facts of the case.

Here are the links.

The first is to the motion relating to Kosovo - https://www.parliament.uk/edm/2004-05/392

The second is from Labour Uncut - http://labour-uncut.co.uk/2017/07/12/those-who-think-the-corbyn-leadership-can-change-are-dreaming-appeasement-will-only-strengthen-the-hard-lefts-hand/#more-21760

I have not said that Corbyn has denied the Srebenica massacre. He is on record as opposing the West's actions against Milosovic, who was responsible for the barbaric acts committed against Bosnian Muslims. Why - if you hold the values Labour claims to espouse - choose to side with Milosovic? It is not easy to say when a war is just but if anything fulfilled the criteria, it was the action which the West belatedly - and at the behest of the US - took to protect Bosnian Muslims and to stop the murderous Serbian regime.

It is hard to avoid the conclusion that it was precisely the West and the US taking the action which was an issue for Corbyn. And in consistent pursuit of that principle he has been willing to overlook appalling suffering and been willing to be on the side of those perpetrating that suffering.

That should shame decent Labour folk. Instead of which they claim that setting out the facts is a smear and turn their attention to calling everyone else fascists or nazis.....

Labour should be better than this.

Richard_Tyndall said:

TOPPING said:

chrisoxon said:

TOPPING said:

chrisoxon said:

RobD said:

TOPPING said:

**This group new what it meant but, as per your hero DD, didn't understand that we possessed it all along*

The argument is that we had sovereignty could leave all along? Doesn't sound very useful...

Quite, it is a ridiculous argument:

A: "EU now controls X, I don't like it"
B: "No, we still have control because we retain the right to leave the EU"
A: "Can we leave the EU then?"
B: "NO!"
A: "So the EU does have control over X?"
B: "No, we still have control because we retain...."
(repeat ad infinitum)

Like any club. I'm not sure you could walk into the pavilion as an MCC member wearing nothing but a big smile.

Modern international relations are all about pooling sovereignty to some degree.

That said North Korea's is pretty sovereign.

So you finally accept that the line "we were always sovereign" is more spin than substance?

Not at all. We as a sovereign nation decided to join the club and as it turned out we as a sovereign nation decided to leave it.

We maintained our sovereignty throughout because we had signed up to a commonly-agreed set of rules which the club established for all members.

This is not tricky stuff, really. Could we zero-rate VAT on domestic energy supplies? No. Because we had decided to join a club wherein that was not allowed. Did that mean we were any less sovereign? Of course not. Can Barclays avoid MiFID's pre-trade transparency without using an official waiver? No. Does that make us any less sovereign? Well you tell me.

My reductio ad absurdum with North Korea was to illustrate what a country which doesn't want to join any club looks like.

Sigh. And Topping wins the dunce hat for the day once again. I would explain it to you again in words of one syllable but you are genuinely too dumb to understand.

I bet you could not explain it in words of one syllable.

In as surprising news as finding PB arguing over Brexit....

Paris-St Germain investigated by Uefa over financial fair play

Facebook has mapped the entire human population of earth

The data set has a resolution of five meters and knows where man-made structures are everywhere on the planet.

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/09/01/facebook-has-mapped-human-population-building-internet-in-space.html

Richard_Tyndall said:

Indeed.

You are angrier than ever at the people who warned you instead of the liars.