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Seaton on Allderdale (Ind Defence)
Result of last election (2011): Lab 28, Ind 16, Con 12 (No Overall Control, Lab and Opposition tied)
Result of ward at last election (2011): Emboldened denotes elected
Independent 1,055, 641
Labour 779, 586
Green 304
Candidates duly nominated:
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Can Ukip see Labour home in Bournemouth ?0
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The Commies look a good shout in Stoke.0
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In fact, scratch that, I see they are not standing. Disappointing.0
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The non person formerly known as Comrade Tony deleted, and Commissar Gordon erased from Edward's History of Heroic Labour Strivers.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-24942040
Personally I prefer Comrade Beria's 9mm methods.0 -
Falkirk.0
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Off-topic:
The best definition...It's because leftism is like a religion to some people. They can't stand anyone else being different or having a different viewpoint. Take a look at all of that year zero crap as an example of how the left tries to extinguish opposing views in order to advance their cause. People on the left are the least open minded I have ever come across.
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of...
:tumbleweed:
'evah'!!!
Now back to my steak, spuds, cauli and carrots (with cider libricant, naturally)....0 -
Blair was never Labour , he was an arch Tory and sometime Conservative party leader.dr_spyn said:The non person formerly known as Comrade Tony deleted, and Commissar Gordon erased from Edward's History of Heroic Labour Strivers.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-24942040
Personally I prefer Comrade Beria's 9mm methods.
Gordon Brown never even existed , he was an invention of anti-Labour propagandists.
EdM is always right.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikolai_Yezhov
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RNC considering 2016 Midwestern 'Superprimary'
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/11/14/republican-party-weighs-a-2016-shakeup-with-midwestern-primary.html0 -
Also, RIP to Grace Jones, our oldest citizen and the last to witness the entirety of the twentieth century from the Boer War and Victoria's Jubilee through the Great War and WW1 to the 'roaring twenties' and depression, WW2, the Cold War, the JFK assassination, the fall of the Berlin Wall, the death of Diana, 9/11, the Credit Crunch, the election of the first black president and the 2012 Diamond Jubilee and Olympics. She was born in an era when most homes did not have hot water or an inside lavatory let alone a car, she died in the era of the internet and ipad0
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LD MP Sir Robert Smith, West Aberdeenshire diagnosed with Parkinson's Disease.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-249453030 -
"Labour's decision not to use a robots.txt file means that much of its deleted content is still available on the Internet Archive, a separate website which aims to create a permanent record of web content."
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"Militant Islamist rebels in Syria linked to al-Qaeda have asked for "understanding and forgiveness" for cutting off and putting on display the wrong man's head."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/10449815/Al-Qaeda-linked-rebels-apologise-after-cutting-off-head-of-wrong-person.html0 -
Tim Indeed, she will probably still be that sprightly at 1130
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Quincel Well that was nice of them0
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Freggles The Labour Archive is at the People's History Museum, Manchester, the Tory Archive at The Bodleain0
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The idiocy over this has been quite startling.Freggles said:"Labour's decision not to use a robots.txt file means that much of its deleted content is still available on the Internet Archive, a separate website which aims to create a permanent record of web content."
Firstly, Labour have, and use, a robots.txt file:
http://www.labour.org.uk/robots.txt
As it is, those three entries seem reasonable enough. (As an aside, the Lib Dems do not appear to have one at all, whilst PB's is a rather friendly 'let all crawlers over all the site').
Secondly, the robots.txt was not developed for archiving. Some archiving websites have decided to use it. Its was designed to stop webcrawlers from accessing certain parts of a site. This is a perfectly reasonable thing to do, although the method may be a little outdated. Some archival sites do not delete information if it is marked as not being crawlable in robots.txt.
The decision to delete information is made by the archival website alone.
Thirdly, note the 'much of its deleted content'. i.e., not all of it is available, or accessible in a meaningful way.
Fourthly, the Labour website has no search facility. Even if the information is on there, trying to find it is like trying to find a planning application in Arthur Dent's local planning office.
More info here:
http://www.robotstxt.org/robotstxt.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robots_exclusion_standard
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dr_spyn said:
The non person formerly known as Comrade Tony deleted, and Commissar Gordon erased from Edward's History of Heroic Labour Strivers.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-24942040
Personally I prefer Comrade Beria's 9mm methods.
On Wednesday, the party seized on revelations that the Conservatives had purged their online archive and blocked search engines from indexing old content, calling it a "cynical stunt".
Labour has now admitted its own website is also "regularly updated".
It's one of those irregular verbs, isn't it?
I regularly update
You delete content
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PB Tory Orgasm time - A Hodges article on Falkirk attacking Red Ed. Who said Dan wasn't original?0
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A leftie complaining about another article about a Falkirk!compouter1 said:PB Tory Orgasm time - A Hodges article on Falkirk attacking Red Ed. Who said Dan wasn't original?
Who said they weren't original?
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Strange how the man who has left The Labour Party, is as popular in the Labour Party as a dose of thrush, has all these insiders speaking into his ear.....even stranger how he never has a name to put to a quote. In other words, a load of complete and utter bollocks for his right wing readership .....and his apostles on here.CarlottaVance said:
A leftie complaining about another article about a Falkirk!compouter1 said:PB Tory Orgasm time - A Hodges article on Falkirk attacking Red Ed. Who said Dan wasn't original?
Who said they weren't original?
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Perhaps the people whispering into his ear are Blairites. You know, the sort of people that Miliband has culled from the cabinet, and will find it less likely to become a PPC due to Unite's antics.compouter1 said:
Strange how the man who has left The Labour Party, is as popular in the Labour Party as a dose of thrush, has all these insiders speaking into his ear.....even stranger how he never has a name.to put to a quote. In other words, a load of complete and utter bollocks for his right wing readership .....and his apostles on here.CarlottaVance said:
A leftie complaining about another article about a Falkirk!compouter1 said:PB Tory Orgasm time - A Hodges article on Falkirk attacking Red Ed. Who said Dan wasn't original?
Who said they weren't original?
In other news, wonder if Labour will have a Falkirk surge again in the next poll?
They're also known as the saner (if not fully sane) side of the Labour Party.0 -
The day is getting nearer. The headline will scream "Red Ed winning a majority and becoming PM is a disaster for Red Ed" from dear Dan. You just know people on here will link it and agree.-1
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if Ed fails to become PM, the sounds of heads exploding will be unbearable. The complacency of some Labour supporters, if reflected across the whole party, may even allow it to happen.compouter1 said:The day is getting nearer. The headline will scream "Red Ed winning a majority and becoming PM is a disaster for Red Ed" from dear Dan. You just know people on here will link it and agree.
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So Tom Watson, former Deputy Chair of the Labour Party and General Election coordinator is wrong and Ed is right?compouter1 said:The day is getting nearer. The headline will scream "Red Ed winning a majority and becoming PM is a disaster for Red Ed" from dear Dan. You just know people on here will link it and agree.
“It's amazing how my own leader can be so wrong. But he was. It's hard for me to say this, but Ed just got it wrong on Falkirk. He was given information, or a report, that was inaccurate and omitted some key facts, and took judgments that really harmed the individuals involved in a grotesque way. I suspect privately he is a little bit embarrassed about it.”
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saddened I doubt Chukka will be too concerned, even if Cameron does win, it will only be by a very narrow margin0
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Wait for the day when I am galactic emperor - the Martians will be crushed forever. Mwahahahaha.....compouter1 said:The day is getting nearer. The headline will scream "Red Ed winning a majority and becoming PM is a disaster for Red Ed" from dear Dan. You just know people on here will link it and agree.
Get help c-pout.0 -
What's Desperate Dan going to be saying as Ed is being driven up the Mall to see the Queen?0
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Josias The LD Archive is at the LSE0
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Which time ? 2015, 2020, 2025 or the record breaking 2030 ?MikeSmithson said:What's Desperate Dan going to be saying as Ed is being driven up the Mall to see the Queen?
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@CarlottaVance - very good - almost as good as watching the engineer hoist with his own petard.0
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Just 2015, but it's good to see that your expectations management is going into "prepare the ground for a Labour win" mode.
I'm expecting a lot of "we didn't want to win this time anyway"posts in eighteen months time0 -
The BBC 10 o'clock news edited out Cameron's comment, broadcast at 6, that the decision to hold CHOGM in Sri Lanka was taken in 2009 when Labour was in power.......0
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Ed is doomed by his coalition with the toxic Lib Dems?MikeSmithson said:What's Desperate Dan going to be saying as Ed is being driven up the Mall to see the Queen?
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Last person to leave turn off the lights?MikeSmithson said:What's Desperate Dan going to be saying as Ed is being driven up the Mall to see the Queen?
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Amazing what an 8% lead does to the arrogance of the Left! Would hate to see Ed blow as I'm not sure you lot could take the humiliation.TGOHF said:
Which time ? 2015, 2020, 2025 or the record breaking 2030 ?MikeSmithson said:What's Desperate Dan going to be saying as Ed is being driven up the Mall to see the Queen?
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Easy to change your name, Ash. Impossible to disguise the unique gormlessness of everything you ever post.compouter1 said:The day is getting nearer. The headline will scream "Red Ed winning a majority and becoming PM is a disaster for Red Ed" from dear Dan. You just know people on here will link it and agree.
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UKIP keep their archives on the original parchment.HYUFD said:Josias The LD Archive is at the LSE
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Me too!Freggles said:.
I'm expecting a lot of "we didn't want to win this time anyway"posts in eighteen months time
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In eighteen months time Dan Hodges' journalistic reputation will be made. He's about the only columnist stating the obvious which is that EdM is a piece of work who shouldn't be trusted with a pair of scissors let alone the keys to No. 10.Freggles said:Just 2015, but it's good to see that your expectations management is going into "prepare the ground for a Labour win" mode.
I'm expecting a lot of "we didn't want to win this time anyway"posts in eighteen months time
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The other night he reckoned Osborne will flatline the recovery because he has only ever had two jobs.Ishmael_X said:
Easy to change your name, Ash. Impossible to disguise the unique gormlessness of everything you ever post.compouter1 said:The day is getting nearer. The headline will scream "Red Ed winning a majority and becoming PM is a disaster for Red Ed" from dear Dan. You just know people on here will link it and agree.
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Somebody nailed it earlier.
On 21 Sept 2010, days before Miliband's election - leaderless Labour were polling 39.
He's added nothing.
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Well, since you bring it up;R0berts said:Falkirk.
Ed Miliband urged to act over new 'phantom' members in Falkirk scandal
Ed Miliband urged to re-open Falkirk vote-rigging inquiry after MP claims more than a dozen of 'phantom' members were signed up to Labour
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/10450836/Ed-Miliband-urged-to-act-over-new-phantom-members-in-Falkirk-scandal.html0 -
I'm expecting a lot of "I wish we hadn't won this time" in about eighteen and a half months time.Freggles said:Just 2015, but it's good to see that your expectations management is going into "prepare the ground for a Labour win" mode.
I'm expecting a lot of "we didn't want to win this time anyway"posts in eighteen months time
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I was wondering how Communist Voice got so many votes in the 2011 Baddeley, Milton and North ward election. It was actually Community Voice.0
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He'll be working for the Sun ?Floater said:
Last person to leave turn off the lights?MikeSmithson said:What's Desperate Dan going to be saying as Ed is being driven up the Mall to see the Queen?
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Cameron in 2006 - "Let Sunshine Win The Day":
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/5396358.stm
He hasn't managed to erase BBC reports yet.0 -
Is Paul Kenny auditioning for Minder ? "Cod wars innit"0
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Nigel Lawson is looking a bit Quentin Crisp.0
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Go Stoke!0
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My sister lives in Baddeley Green.0
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Is there a market on the final QT question being about tattoos?0
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Whoah. QT in... FALKIRK in a couple of weeks according to Deerin.
Bit of a toughie there for Falkirk-lovin' Beeb/QT haters.0 -
Davey drones on drones.0
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I should point out that this is not about me wanting to get a tattoo.Carola said:0 -
Trade Union leader now speaking on subject of US defence strategy...
Next up.... Len McCluskey on the Arts...0 -
Leyla Hussein's epetition is approaching 80,000 signatures:
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Portsmouth folk give Nigel some applause while withholding it from Stella.0
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Ed Davey on his climate change hobby horse. It's become a religion for many on the left.0
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Milky bars are on Paul !0
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Bournemouth Con hold Con 503 Lab 215 UKIP 212 LD 191 Green 48 Ind 340
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Ed Davey looks like Wayne Rooney but without the intellect0
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She is as dull as ditchwater, to be fair.AndyJS said:Portsmouth folk give Nigel some applause while withholding it from Stella.
They all are.
It's the "What planet Are they From?" edition of QT.
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Audience look reay to commit mass suicide on the subject of climate change :-)0
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Davey tumbleweeding badly here.0
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Do not get too excited. Out there in the real world (non-politics land), nobody ever talks about Ed Miliband and I suspect that a lot of people still think he is David Miliband. Even down in Tim-Land (where I have been spending time recently), everybody has Cameron's name on their lips, people talk about Labour, but Miliband? No one ever mentions him.TGOHF said:
Should imagine Ed Miliband will be on.Carola said:Whoah. QT in... FALKIRK in a couple of weeks according to Deerin.
Bit of a toughie there for Falkirk-lovin' Beeb/QT haters.
He is a non-person. Maybe he really does not exist? Maybe Gordon is still in charge and Ed is merely a CGI figure used for deflecting the blame from Gordon?
I think we should be told
Bev.
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Proper z list line up on QT
But surely Africa should use Solar power, please tell me they do?0 -
Creasey has that permanent smug half grin that leftys seem unable to disguise... Remember when she said on gay marriage " if you don't like it, just don't marry another man" and thought it was hilarious...
Same as saying "if you don't like racism, just don't be racist" " if you don't like the rich only paying 40% tax , don't pay 40% tax yourself"0 -
Oh god someone relying on a gcse...0
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Obviously china is building ALL sorts of power stations, green, black, blue, brown it is growing at 7-8% a year ffsake. Their emmissions are going to go up, as is their 'green;' energy.
This Labour bod is downright stupid linking the typhoons "The people in the Philipines want to see more carbon taxes in the UK ffsake"0 -
She seems to suggest in her answer that only man is responsible for climate change....0
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Creasey : "we arent the dinosaurs" - sitting beside her bankroller Paul Kenny.Pulpstar said:Obviously china is building ALL sorts of power stations, green, black, blue, brown it is growing at 7-8% a year ffsake. Their emmissions are going to go up, as is their 'green;' energy.
This Labour bod is downright stupid linking the typhoons "The people in the Philipines want to see more carbon taxes in the UK ffsake"0 -
Creasy must be worth 30 points to the Tories.
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Labour have won Sandwich South by-election following Conservative resignation and well funded UKIP campaign. On this result Laura "Shifting" Sandys would lose her South Thanet seat0
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No Offence Alan, UKIP's archives are probably kept in Nigel Farage's backroom0
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Go on then, give us your analysis of what happened in Falkirk, and how you think its impacted on both Unite and the Labour party and their relationship are a result? You and a one or two others have certainly become almost obsessional in your attempts to dismiss any reporting or debate of this issue on this site. But you have totally failed to explain why a scandal that goes right to the heart of the Offices of Labour Leader Ed Miliband and Unite boss Len McCluskey is such a non story, particular when Unite remains the Labour party's largest donor?R0berts said:
Falkirk.
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to be fair it's nowhere near as interesting as "man on yacht doesn't get donation he didn't ask for" which dragged on in the fevered imaginations of some of the thicker and more excitable posters on here, for what seemed like months.fitalass said:Go on then, give us your analysis of what happened in Falkirk, and how you think its impacted on both Unite and the Labour party and their relationship are a result? You and a one or two others have certainly become almost obsessional in your attempts to dismiss any reporting or debate of this issue on this site. But you have totally failed to explain why a scandal that goes right to the heart of the Offices of Labour Leader Ed Miliband and Unite boss Len McCluskey is such a non story, particular when Unite remains the Labour party's largest donor?
R0berts said:Falkirk.
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Don't hold your breath, I've been trying to get them to discuss the NHS and education in Wales for agesfitalass said:Go on then, give us your analysis of what happened in Falkirk, and how you think its impacted on both Unite and the Labour party and their relationship are a result? You and a one or two others have certainly become almost obsessional in your attempts to dismiss any reporting or debate of this issue on this site. But you have totally failed to explain why a scandal that goes right to the heart of the Offices of Labour Leader Ed Miliband and Unite boss Len McCluskey is such a non story, particular when Unite remains the Labour party's largest donor?
R0berts said:Falkirk.
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Emily Maitlis drops a W-bomb presenting This Week0
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Labour have won both the Seaton seats but no figures yet .0
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Very sorry to hear this news.dr_spyn said:
LD MP Sir Robert Smith, West Aberdeenshire diagnosed with Parkinson's Disease.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-249453030 -
'Oxford aims to weed out the ‘rich and thick’'
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/education/article3922508.ece
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It was certainly not one of Creasy's better outings on QuestionTime tonight when taken out of her comfort zone, she really misfired on the issues in Portsmouth in particular.TheSheikofShake said:
Creasy must be worth 30 points to the Tories.
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City Independents have won Stoke gain from Independent elected as Labour
Partial result City Ind 861 Con 504 Lab 444-1 -
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Judging by how the airwaves aren't full of the BBC and political class demanding plod go in to smash up these anti-Roma street patrols i'mma gonna guess they're not made up of wwc people. Which would also explain why someone like Blunkett is speaking up and the absence of the UAF etc.Beverley_C said:Max said: "It's because leftism is like a religion to some people. ..... People on the left are the least open minded I have ever come across"
And rules are different for them than for others - Enoch Powell does a "Blood in the streets" speech and is vilified for decades. David Blunkett does a "Blood in streets (Sheffield)" speech and gets support from Nick Clegg.
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Hague's Hearteaters at it again.Quincel said:"Militant Islamist rebels in Syria linked to al-Qaeda have asked for "understanding and forgiveness" for cutting off and putting on display the wrong man's head."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/10449815/Al-Qaeda-linked-rebels-apologise-after-cutting-off-head-of-wrong-person.html0 -
KentRed said:
Labour have won Sandwich South by-election following Conservative resignation and well funded UKIP campaign. On this result Laura "Shifting" Sandys would lose her South Thanet seat
I blame Falkirk!MarkSenior said:Labour have won both the Seaton seats but no figures yet .
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Bless, are you reduced to chasing grey squirrels rather than a Scottish red squirrel with this result?
Go on then, give us your analysis of what happened in Falkirk, and how you think its impacted on both Unite and the Labour party and their relationship are a result? You and a one or two others have certainly become almost obsessional in your attempts to dismiss any reporting or debate of this issue on this site. But you have totally failed to explain why a scandal that goes right to the heart of the Offices of Labour Leader Ed Miliband and Unite boss Len McCluskey is such a non story, particular when Unite remains the Labour party's largest donor?compouter1 said:KentRed said:Labour have won Sandwich South by-election following Conservative resignation and well funded UKIP campaign. On this result Laura "Shifting" Sandys would lose her South Thanet seat
I blame Falkirk!MarkSenior said:Labour have won both the Seaton seats but no figures yet .
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BBC – “An independent review has called for an overhaul of the Association of Chief Police Officers.
Acpo currently operates as a limited company, but a report by General Sir Nick Parker says this is "inconsistent with public accountability".”
Daily Mail’s take on the story:
“'Boys club' for top police chiefs may be abolished after report finds £4.2m used to fund it could be better spent elsewhere”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2507604/Association-Chief-Police-Officers-abolished.html
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