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The Economist's Berlin Bureau Chief:

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/brexit/2017/05/there-new-consensus-germany-brexit-should-be-clean-and-britain-should-pay-it

On a technical note the Lib Dem score swinging from ~ 10% to ~8% is more significant than the Tory one mooching around the high 40s.

All the polling seems to have levelled off somewhat recently.

CarlottaVance said:

The Economist's Berlin Bureau Chief:

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/brexit/2017/05/there-new-consensus-germany-brexit-should-be-clean-and-britain-should-pay-it

Paying a fair share is not an issue.

https://twitter.com/drrjsimpson/status/864032468260843520

Dura_Ace said:

As she's never worn a uniform it's very presumptious.

She served as a Signaller in the Territorial Army for three years (2003–06)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruth_Davidson#Early_career

Dura_Ace said:

Theuniondivvie said:

Could some of the PB experts clarify whether TRuthy is functionally illiterate when it comes to understanding how to place a comma, or does she actually think 'simply seeking peace is offensive to anyone who's worn the uniform'?

https://twitter.com/RuthDavidsonMSP/status/863667317623984128

As she's never worn a uniform it's very presumptious. I wore a uniform for 18 years and Jezza's IRA fan boy past doesn't offend me. It's certainly not a positive though an wouldn't incline me to vote for the stupid twat if I were a waverer.

Ruth Davidson served as a Signaller in the Territorial Army for three years (2003–06) before suffering a back injury in a training exercise at Sandhurst.

Who's being presumptuous ?

Dura_Ace said:

Theuniondivvie said:

Could some of the PB experts clarify whether TRuthy is functionally illiterate when it comes to understanding how to place a comma, or does she actually think 'simply seeking peace is offensive to anyone who's worn the uniform'?

https://twitter.com/RuthDavidsonMSP/status/863667317623984128

As she's never worn a uniform it's very presumptious. I wore a uniform for 18 years and Jezza's IRA fan boy past doesn't offend me. It's certainly not a positive though an wouldn't incline me to vote for the stupid twat if I were a waverer.

Come now, she took her well padded backside to a couple of TA weekend yomps. If that's not serving, I don't know what is.

Casino_Royale said:

Scott_P said:

Casino_Royale said:

I think the UK will take an economic and geopolitical hit for 5-10 years

Slow hand clap...

https://twitter.com/thetimes/status/864035126807867392

Don't get cocky. Many Leavers voted fully cognisant of the short-medium term risks.

There will be some jobs, and supply chains, that cease to make sense once the UK has left the EU. However, the fundamental attractions of the UK will remain and there will be new opportunities created through new trade deals, and flexibility of applying an independent regulatory regime.

But these will take time to come to fruition, and loss aversion is a very powerful emotion.

One of the fundamental attractions of the UK for inward investors is membership of the single market. The benefits that brings will take many years to replace, let alone supplant. And the harder the Brexit, the longer it will take. But we are where we are and Mrs May has promised that those just about managing will prosper under her government. We shall see.

Theuniondivvie said:

If that's not serving, I don't know what is.

Clearly, you don't know what serving is

Dura_Ace said:

MonikerDiCanio said:

Dura_Ace said:

Theuniondivvie said:

Could some of the PB experts clarify whether TRuthy is functionally illiterate when it comes to understanding how to place a comma, or does she actually think 'simply seeking peace is offensive to anyone who's worn the uniform'?

https://twitter.com/RuthDavidsonMSP/status/863667317623984128

As she's never worn a uniform it's very presumptious. I wore a uniform for 18 years and Jezza's IRA fan boy past doesn't offend me. It's certainly not a positive though an wouldn't incline me to vote for the stupid twat if I were a waverer.

Ruth Davidson served as a Signaller in the Territorial Army for three years (2003–06) before suffering a back injury in a training exercise at Sandhurst.

Who's being presumptuous ?

Me, apparently. Just because she answered a few phones at Catterick doesn't give her right to attribute a position to all ex-mil though.

"As she's never worn a uniform ..."

Take the hit on the chin, and jog on.

SquareRoot said:

ThreeQuidder said:

Tories piling up the votes in safe seats...

http://www.conservativehome.com/thecolumnists/2017/05/nadhim-zahawi-a-message-from-labour-voters-in-my-seat-that-ive-nemessage-fromlabour-voters-in-my-seat-that-ive-never-heard-before-theyre-backing-a-conservative-prime-minister.html

So much for little or no switching from labour to Conservative...

I understand from Kevin Foster in Torbay that in one of the more Labour/LibDem parts of the constituency, they were door-knocking and had a run of 11 households voting Conservative for him.

Probably just a statistical freak, but even so.....

MarqueeMark said:

SquareRoot said:

ThreeQuidder said:

Tories piling up the votes in safe seats...

http://www.conservativehome.com/thecolumnists/2017/05/nadhim-zahawi-a-message-from-labour-voters-in-my-seat-that-ive-nemessage-fromlabour-voters-in-my-seat-that-ive-never-heard-before-theyre-backing-a-conservative-prime-minister.html

So much for little or no switching from labour to Conservative...

I understand from Kevin Foster in Torbay that in one of the more Labour/LibDem parts of the constituency, they were door-knocking and had a run of 11 households voting Conservative for him.

Probably just a statistical freak, but even so.....

Given what we were told two years ago, I'm afraid I'm not going to take any notice of canvassing reports from any side (unless they back up my own prejudices of course).

MarqueeMark said:

SquareRoot said:

ThreeQuidder said:

Tories piling up the votes in safe seats...

http://www.conservativehome.com/thecolumnists/2017/05/nadhim-zahawi-a-message-from-labour-voters-in-my-seat-that-ive-nemessage-fromlabour-voters-in-my-seat-that-ive-never-heard-before-theyre-backing-a-conservative-prime-minister.html

So much for little or no switching from labour to Conservative...

I understand from Kevin Foster in Torbay that in one of the more Labour/LibDem parts of the constituency, they were door-knocking and had a run of 11 households voting Conservative for him.

Probably just a statistical freak, but even so.....

On the other hand, it could just be your persuasive powers MM!

Theuniondivvie said:

Fysics_Teacher said:

Theuniondivvie said:

Fysics_Teacher said:

Theuniondivvie said:

Could some of the PB experts clarify whether TRuthy is functionally illiterate when it comes to understanding how to place a comma, or does she actually think 'simply seeking peace is offensive to anyone who's worn the uniform'?

https://twitter.com/RuthDavidsonMSP/status/863667317623984128

Or is a victim of autocorrect who was typing too fast to notice.

The autocorrects I've experienced all seem to correct spelling rather than punctuation. In any case If you're a pol playing with sectarian fire, I'd have hoped you might be extra careful with the message you're trying to get over.

Having read what you read more carefully, are you really saying that what Corbyn did was 'simply seeking peace'? He wanted the IRA to win. He voted against the Good Friday agreement. This is not a sectarian point surely?

It's Davidson's tweet, not mine.
It's no secret that the SCons are trying to hook up with the Protestant working class vote. If all that 'the uniform' & 'wanting the IRA to win' guff isn't designed to get their sectarian spidey senses tingling, I'm a panda.

Are you saying she's wrong, that Corbyn didn't want the IRA to win? And if not, do you think it doesn't matter?

MarqueeMark said:

SquareRoot said:

ThreeQuidder said:

Tories piling up the votes in safe seats...

http://www.conservativehome.com/thecolumnists/2017/05/nadhim-zahawi-a-message-from-labour-voters-in-my-seat-that-ive-nemessage-fromlabour-voters-in-my-seat-that-ive-never-heard-before-theyre-backing-a-conservative-prime-minister.html

So much for little or no switching from labour to Conservative...

I understand from Kevin Foster in Torbay that in one of the more Labour/LibDem parts of the constituency, they were door-knocking and had a run of 11 households voting Conservative for him.

Probably just a statistical freak, but even so.....

Kevin is at 1.22 to hold, which looks good - but even better than that is the 1.44 available in Thornbury & Yate.
If Kevin is finding this sort of thing in Torbay then it won't be massively dissimiliar in Thornbury. Luke Hall similiarly has 1st time incumbency. It is a definite bet at 1.44 for me.

Note just noted Kevin actually has a decent majority. A bet at 1.22 as well.

Corbyn's fans need to stop discussing his work 'towards peace in Northern Ireland'. Nobody believes it.

Scott_P said:

@PCollinsTimes: Community. Identity. Stability. The Tory offer, 2017. Also the slogan from Aldous Huxley's Brave New World.

Is it just me or is it a refreshing change to have a party, especially one led by a former home secretary, be accused of mimicking Brave New World rather than 1984?

MarkSenior said:

MarqueeMark said:

SquareRoot said:

ThreeQuidder said:

Tories piling up the votes in safe seats...

http://www.conservativehome.com/thecolumnists/2017/05/nadhim-zahawi-a-message-from-labour-voters-in-my-seat-that-ive-nemessage-fromlabour-voters-in-my-seat-that-ive-never-heard-before-theyre-backing-a-conservative-prime-minister.html

So much for little or no switching from labour to Conservative...

I understand from Kevin Foster in Torbay that in one of the more Labour/LibDem parts of the constituency, they were door-knocking and had a run of 11 households voting Conservative for him.

Probably just a statistical freak, but even so.....

Some of us can remember the classic post on here in the 2005 GE by Rik Willis . In a whole night's canvassing in Sutton and Cheam he had not found a single Lib Dem voter .

Kevin won't be ramping for the sake of it. Trust me on this.

FF43 said:

All have an internationalist outlook but there is a tension that would need to be managed between those that are supportive or opposed to the welfare state.

Quite. What you're proposing is to take Progressives (the sort of people who say things like 'the bedroom tax' or 'the benefits cap is the final solution for the poor') and persuade them to join a party with ultra-dry Thatcherite Free Liberals, on the grounds that they are both 'internationalist, connected and embrace the modern world' (whatever that means- is privatising the NHS 'embracing the modern world'?). Bear in mind that the only major political realignments in Britain have resulted from the ability to mobilise particular local or sectional loyalties: the working class for Labour replacing the Liberals, and Scottish national identity for the SNP replacing Labour in Scotland.

Assuming, however, that the Lib Dems can be 100% successful in winning over these voters that leaves them losing to the Tories 50%-30%. In other words more or less where Corbyn is today, but without union backing, residual loyalty and geographically concentrated support. And your only hope of reducing their majority is to appeal to two groups whose no.1 priority is to reduce net migration to below 100,000 per year, using a party whose sole point of connection is that it's internationalist.

It's an interesting thought exercise in turning the Conservatives into the Japanese Liberal Democrats, or the Singaporean People's Action Party, but not much else.

Theuniondivvie said:

Scott_P said:

Fysics_Teacher said:

Having read what you read more carefully, are you really saying that what Corbyn did was 'simply seeking peace'? He wanted the IRA to win. He voted against the Good Friday agreement. This is not a sectarian point surely?

Of course it's not a sectarian point, but the fervour with which the Zoomers have been plugging it all weekend does not suggest a party confident in their own prospects

Yeah, those Zoomers..

https://twitter.com/PeterKGeoghegan/status/863841628854919168

https://twitter.com/BraidenHT/status/863717986288504832

https://twitter.com/LADFLEG/status/864024143725047808

Negotiating with the enemy is how you bring about peace.

Supporting your enemy is not.

All those Tory examples you mention are about negotiations, not about support, can you not understand the difference? Corbyn opposed the Anglo-Irish Agreement.

https://twitter.com/thetimesscot/status/864010238386724864

Propaganda however...

https://twitter.com/kevverage/status/863701487763034112

Penddu said:

Dura_Ace said:

Theuniondivvie said:

Could some of the PB experts clarify whether TRuthy is functionally illiterate when it comes to understanding how to place a comma, or does she actually think 'simply seeking peace is offensive to anyone who's worn the uniform'?

https://twitter.com/RuthDavidsonMSP/status/863667317623984128

As she's never worn a uniform it's very presumptious. I wore a uniform for 18 years and Jezza's IRA fan boy past doesn't offend me. It's certainly not a positive though an wouldn't incline me to vote for the stupid twat if I were a waverer.

Traffic Warden?

Lollipop Lady?

I hope CCHQ are monitoring the amount of coverage Jeremy Corbyn is getting. He was on three channels, Victoria Derbyshire, Parliament and SKY, this morning, for quite some considerable time. BBC had a breaking news headline, citing the extra 37 bn for the NHS.

"Events, events, dear boy".

Theuniondivvie said:

Fysics_Teacher said:

Theuniondivvie said:

Fysics_Teacher said:

Theuniondivvie said:

Fysics_Teacher said:

Theuniondivvie said:

Could some of the PB experts clarify whether TRuthy is functionally illiterate when it comes to understanding how to place a comma, or does she actually think 'simply seeking peace is offensive to anyone who's worn the uniform'?

https://twitter.com/RuthDavidsonMSP/status/863667317623984128

Or is a victim of autocorrect who was typing too fast to notice.

The autocorrects I've experienced all seem to correct spelling rather than punctuation. In any case If you're a pol playing with sectarian fire, I'd have hoped you might be extra careful with the message you're trying to get over.

Having read what you read more carefully, are you really saying that what Corbyn did was 'simply seeking peace'? He wanted the IRA to win. He voted against the Good Friday agreement. This is not a sectarian point surely?

It's Davidson's tweet, not mine.
It's no secret that the SCons are trying to hook up with the Protestant working class vote. If all that 'the uniform' & 'wanting the IRA to win' guff isn't designed to get their sectarian spidey senses tingling, I'm a panda.

Are you saying she's wrong, that Corbyn didn't want the IRA to win? And if not, do you think it doesn't matter?

I'm saying that she's piggybacking on a Crosby inspired strategy for her own low purposes. To be brutally honest I couldn't give a flying feck what Corbyn wanted 25 years ago, or now really.

It's not like the other side in that conflict had clean hands. Nobody emerges from it in a state of beatitude.

Remember when Ruth rode the quad bike. That was brilliant.

JonWC said:

FF43 said:

The political landscape has changed so much the Lib Dems need to reposition. During an election campaign isn't a good time to do it, to be fair to Tim Farron. You will lose your old supporters faster than you can convince new supporters to come on board. I think they need to move to a ticket that is firmly internationalist, connected and which embraces the modern world. Somewhat returning to Liberal roots in the 19th century. Broadly similar to the CDU in Germany and Emmanuel Macron in France, spaces both the Conservative and Labour parties used to hold but have largely abandoned

Chelyabinsk came up with this analysis of centre politics in a previous thread. It identifies eight political tribes: Democratic Socialists and Community - worth 13% of the electorate and Labour core; Common Sense and Our Community - worth 50% of the electorate and claimed by May Conservatism. The remaining four tribes would be amenable to a rebranded Lib Dems and are worth a total of 31% of the electorate. (Both the distinctions between the tribes and their relative weights are fluid). They are:

Progressives (11%) Open, internationalist and inclusive view of Britain, comfortable with immigration. Belief in the welfare state, balanced view towards tax and the economy.

Swing voters (7%) Mixture of views. Support an equal society, internationalist outlook, hard stance on benefits, support a low tax economy

New Britain (6%) Open capitalist economy, pro-immigration, pro-single market, supportive of low tax economy. Business friendly, internationalist, compassionate view of society

Free Liberals (7%) Strong faith in the market, little interest in socially conservative ideas. Strongly pro-business, the most opposed to the welfare state. The most personally optimistic.

All have an internationalist outlook but there is a tension that would need to be managed between those that are supportive or opposed to the welfare state.

I'm more of a classical liberal, but I joined the LibDems when they were founded, and since stood for them twice for parliament and god knows how many times in local elections plus thousands of hours of my time, and decent sums of money (probably millions in opportunity cost - how daft am I?). I've never voted either Tory or Labour. In this election I am probably going to have to vote Tory, despite feeling a little dirty about it, mainly to vote against Labour. I've toyed with the idea of DNV so as not to sully myself.. but that would just make me a virtue signaller and I'd feel worse still about that.

Welcome to the PBTories.

More seriously, if the Libs can't hang on to Ex Parly candidates, they're going to struggle with the average voter...

SKY still chasing Jeremy Hunt. I really detest this media obsession with harassing politician's outside their homes. It's pretty obvious Jeremy Hunt will not be Health Secretary after this election. Who would want this job, I have no idea.

Dura_Ace said:

Remember when Ruth rode the quad bike. That was brilliant.

Was it as awesome as when Nicola sat on a bike with YES stickers on it?

And a flag. Musn't forget the flag.

TheScreamingEagles said:

https://twitter.com/MSmithsonPB/status/864035430358032385

Starting to wish we hadn't won now

https://twitter.com/ncpoliticsuk/status/864060483778867200

DavidL said:

Theuniondivvie said:

MonikerDiCanio said:

Theuniondivvie said:

Could some of the PB experts clarify whether TRuthy is functionally illiterate when it comes to understanding how to place a comma, or does she actually think 'simply seeking peace is offensive to anyone who's worn the uniform'?

https://twitter.com/RuthDavidsonMSP/status/863667317623984128

I'm sick and tired of hearing things
From uptight, short-sighted, narrow-minded hypocritics
All I want is the TRuth
Just gimme some TRuth
I've had enough of reading things
By neurotic, psychotic, pig-headed politicians
All I want is the TRuth
Just gimme some TRuth

I hope if he were still with us that John would still be fighting the good fight.

Keep you doped with religion, and sex, and T.V.
And you think you're so clever and classless and free
But you're still fucking peasants as far as I can see
A working class hero is something to be
A working class hero is something to be

Man was a genius. A genuine poet for his times.

I used to live near Weybridge when Lennon was there and I've heard plenty of stories from local tradesmen about how badly Lennon would treat workmen; he wouldn't let them use any of the loos in his house, he wouldn't let his first wife Cynthia make coffee for them, etc. They all thought Cynthia was lovely.

SandraM said:

DavidL said:

Theuniondivvie said:

MonikerDiCanio said:

Theuniondivvie said:

Could some of the PB experts clarify whether TRuthy is functionally illiterate when it comes to understanding how to place a comma, or does she actually think 'simply seeking peace is offensive to anyone who's worn the uniform'?

https://twitter.com/RuthDavidsonMSP/status/863667317623984128

I'm sick and tired of hearing things
From uptight, short-sighted, narrow-minded hypocritics
All I want is the TRuth
Just gimme some TRuth
I've had enough of reading things
By neurotic, psychotic, pig-headed politicians
All I want is the TRuth
Just gimme some TRuth

I hope if he were still with us that John would still be fighting the good fight.

Keep you doped with religion, and sex, and T.V.
And you think you're so clever and classless and free
But you're still fucking peasants as far as I can see
A working class hero is something to be
A working class hero is something to be

Man was a genius. A genuine poet for his times.

I used to live near Weybridge when Lennon was there and I've heard plenty of stories from local tradesmen about how badly Lennon would treat workmen; he wouldn't let them use any of the loos in his house, he wouldn't let his first wife Cynthia make coffee for them, etc. They all thought Cynthia was lovely.

Unfortunately geniuses are not always nice people.

Chelyabinsk said:

FF43 said:

All have an internationalist outlook but there is a tension that would need to be managed between those that are supportive or opposed to the welfare state.

Quite. What you're proposing is to take Progressives (the sort of people who say things like 'the bedroom tax' or 'the benefits cap is the final solution for the poor') and persuade them to join a party with ultra-dry Thatcherite Free Liberals, on the grounds that they are both 'internationalist, connected and embrace the modern world' (whatever that means- is privatising the NHS 'embracing the modern world'?). Bear in mind that the only major political realignments in Britain have resulted from the ability to mobilise particular local or sectional loyalties: the working class for Labour replacing the Liberals, and Scottish national identity for the SNP replacing Labour in Scotland.

Assuming, however, that the Lib Dems can be 100% successful in winning over these voters that leaves them losing to the Tories 50%-30%. In other words more or less where Corbyn is today, but without union backing, residual loyalty and geographically concentrated support. And your only hope of reducing their majority is to appeal to two groups whose no.1 priority is to reduce net migration to below 100,000 per year, using a party whose sole point of connection is that it's internationalist.

It's an interesting thought exercise in turning the Conservatives into the Japanese Liberal Democrats, or the Singaporean People's Action Party, but not much else.

Top post.

If Mrs May succeeds in uniting the Right for the first time since the 80s there will be only footnotes in history for the Posh Boys' small victory in 2015.

Pulpstar said:

Scott_P said:

https://twitter.com/ncpoliticsuk/status/864060483778867200

Remarkable performance by the greens with no candidate there.

Bizarre to release a poll a month after the fieldwork, and especially when the Greens aren't standing now.

TheScreamingEagles said:

Pulpstar said:

Scott_P said:

https://twitter.com/ncpoliticsuk/status/864060483778867200

Remarkable performance by the greens with no candidate there.

Bizarre to release a poll a month after the fieldwork, and especially when the Greens aren't standing now.

Yes, you have to wonder what on earth Survation are playing at.

Edinburgh South looks a constituency to dodge for me in betting terms.

One for the real gamblers.

Pulpstar said:

Scott_P said:

https://twitter.com/ncpoliticsuk/status/864060483778867200

Remarkable performance by the greens with no candidate there.

Aye, and if we buy the 'Greens wholly owned subsidiary of the SNP' line by the SCons, that means SNP within moe of SLab.
I'll take a wild guess that there will be much protestations that it'll not be as simple as that!

Pulpstar Posts:Scott_P

Of course if you add the SNP and Greens together it takes the seat to within 3 points. I'm not sure that the Stop Brexit alliance (who comissioned the poll) tactics have been fully thought through!

Scott_P said:

Dura_Ace said:

Remember when Ruth rode the quad bike. That was brilliant.

Was it as awesome as when Nicola sat on a bike with YES stickers on it?

And a flag. Musn't forget the flag.

Ruth likes flags.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFOoRAp5QtM

http://www.itv.com/news/2017-05-15/jeremy-corbyn-tells-itv-tonight-freedom-of-movement-will-end-with-brexit/

Confirming that review would include Trident, he said: "Nuclear will be included in that. The bigger threats we face are actually, I think, cyber-attacks and... irrational acts of terrorism."

Irrational acts of terrorism? Corbyn is unhinged.

Jason said:

http://www.itv.com/news/2017-05-15/jeremy-corbyn-tells-itv-tonight-freedom-of-movement-will-end-with-brexit/

Confirming that review would include Trident, he said: "Nuclear will be included in that. The bigger threats we face are actually, I think, cyber-attacks and... irrational acts of terrorism."

Irrational acts of terrorism? Corbyn is unhinged.

He has just hired a communist to run the election campaign, unhinged is too kind a word.

Laying the Republicans against their winning a plurality in the French national assembly elections at 4.3 could be reasonable. LR+UDI are polling equal second with the FN at 21% for R1, behind the Macron alliance EM-MoDem on 29%, suggesting they will win 40-80 fewer seats than Macron in metropolitan France excluding Corsica. There are 42 other seats: 11 for residents abroad, 27 for overseas France, and four for Corsica. Of those, nine are currently LR and I have no idea how many EM might win. The catch is that Betfair are listing as options "The Republicans" and "En Marche" rather than the two electoral alliances. François Bayrou's MoDem currently holds only a single seat.

HaHaHaHa

GO £9 by 2020

TM £8,20 BY 2020

But year off on no pay

bigjohnowls said:

I see the Tory policies to enhance workers rights


Have fallen apart quicker than cheap bog roll in a tank of water

Well what do you expect from Milibandesque policies.

TheScreamingEagles said:

bigjohnowls said:

I see the Tory policies to enhance workers rights


Have fallen apart quicker than cheap bog roll in a tank of water

Well what do you expect from Milibandesque policies.

Those policies won over 9 million votes.

Pulpstar said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

bigjohnowls said:

I see the Tory policies to enhance workers rights


Have fallen apart quicker than cheap bog roll in a tank of water

Well what do you expect from Milibandesque policies.

Those policies won over 9 million votes.

Those policies led to defeat.

calum said:

Theuniondivvie said:

Fysics_Teacher said:

Theuniondivvie said:

Fysics_Teacher said:

Theuniondivvie said:

Fysics_Teacher said:

Theuniondivvie said:

Could some of the PB experts clarify whether TRuthy is functionally illiterate when it comes to understanding how to place a comma, or does she actually think 'simply seeking peace is offensive to anyone who's worn the uniform'?

https://twitter.com/RuthDavidsonMSP/status/863667317623984128

Or is a victim of autocorrect who was typing too fast to notice.

The autocorrects I've experienced all seem to correct spelling rather than punctuation. In any case If you're a pol playing with sectarian fire, I'd have hoped you might be extra careful with the message you're trying to get over.

Having read what you read more carefully, are you really saying that what Corbyn did was 'simply seeking peace'? He wanted the IRA to win. He voted against the Good Friday agreement. This is not a sectarian point surely?

It's Davidson's tweet, not mine.
It's no secret that the SCons are trying to hook up with the Protestant working class vote. If all that 'the uniform' & 'wanting the IRA to win' guff isn't designed to get their sectarian spidey senses tingling, I'm a panda.

Are you saying she's wrong, that Corbyn didn't want the IRA to win? And if not, do you think it doesn't matter?

I'm saying that she's piggybacking on a Crosby inspired strategy for her own low purposes. To be brutally honest I couldn't give a flying feck what Corbyn wanted 25 years ago, or now really.

Ruth and SCON appear to be courting the Orange/Loyalist Rangers vote, in much the same way that Jim Murphy tried to target minority groups in GE2015, they seem to think that people won't notice !!

Has a big May/Davidson banner been unveiled by the Gers yet ?

Mr. Eagles, just how are the 'workers rights' meant to be funded?

To be honest, the more I hear from the Conservatives, the less I'm likely to vote for them.

And then Labour pipe up with their tax-and-spend socialism, led by Corbyn. For ****'s sake. Labour deserves to be crushed for their idiocy putting that far left lunatic onto the shortlist.

Mr. Eagles (2), unfortunately, whilst I did notice it, I was too busy working on Wandering Phoenix and Roaming Tiger (top 5 on the Asian Myths lists on Amazon UK and US, you know) *and* the F1 stuff to respond.