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  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 126,589
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,314

    There's a very simple test on being British.

    Do you favour nuking France?

    If yes, then you're as British as bulldog flying a Spitfire.

    If no, then you're as foreign as The House of Windsor.

    Except the Aquitaine.. and the bit around Calais.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 53,409
    RobD said:

    If those reports are true, Sunilovski will surely be awarded the Order of Lenin for his work... :smiley:
    "A great day, Comrades! We sail into history!" :lol:
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 62,091

    Leavers' epic post-referendum failure is any attempt to develop an idea of Britishness that can include the views of those who disagreed with them.
    Works both ways mate.

    When you're ready for serious dialogue on this, rather than questions my morals and demanding I surrender the vote and the argument, give me a shout and we'll talk.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,326

    There's a very simple test on being British.

    Do you favour nuking France?

    If yes, then you're as British as bulldog flying a Spitfire.

    If no, then you're as foreign as The House of Windsor.

    Don't be stupid - I need to know which way the wind is blowing first.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 38,370

    Leavers' epic post-referendum failure is any attempt to develop an idea of Britishness that can include the views of those who disagreed with them.
    There is nothing we could do to appeal to you, because our very existence is something you find offensive.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,314
    Essexit said:

    Liberal Democrat leader Tim Farron has vowed to go into the Parliamentary trenches over the Bill.

    He said: 'We are going to launch a legislative war.

    'We will grind the Government's agenda to a standstill, unless proper and rigorous safeguards are given over the great repeal bill.'


    Watch out Theresa, all 9 LibDems will try to 'grind your agenda to a standstill'!

    Give me strength.
    They do have a hundred or so peers (though slowly declining due to attrition)
  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340

    Works both ways mate.

    When you're ready for serious dialogue on this, rather than questions my morals and demanding I surrender the vote and the argument, give me a shout and we'll talk.
    Leave won. It's your shitshow, you've got to make it work.
  • MarkSeniorMarkSenior Posts: 4,699

    investment up
    growth up
    employment up
    All thanks to us still being in the EU
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,767

    Unhappiness up
    Division up
    Racism up
    only in your head

    out in the sticks were dancing round the maypole, banging on the Bhangra and enjoying the first days of spring

    youre mowing people down on pavements
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,314

    Unhappiness up
    Division up
    Racism up
    Can any of those things be measured in meaningful ways?
  • MonikerDiCanioMonikerDiCanio Posts: 5,792

    It seems to have all sprung from Ben Bradshaw's idle speculation.

    Personally I don't think there's anything in it except to the extent that Russia has been very active in pumping out 'we're going to hell in a handcart' style propaganda about everything from the financial crisis to refugees.
    I wouldn't expect anyone avowedly loyal to a foreign power and pumping out " going to hell in a handcart " propaganda on an hourly basis to see a problem there.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,314

    All thanks to us still being in the EU
    Despite the fact we will be leaving the EU, don't you mean ;)
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 53,409

    Unhappiness up
    Division up
    Racism up
    I would rather be a BME person in Britain, than in Alastair Meeks' Hungary! :p
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 62,091

    Leave won. It's your shitshow, you've got to make it work.
    And there we go again.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,314


    Leave won. It's your shitshow, you've got to make it work.

    I'm curious, what would be required in order to appease you except staying in the EU?
  • EssexitEssexit Posts: 1,965

    All thanks to us still being in the EU
    No Mark, Remain said there'd be an enormous shock following a vote to Leave. They later backtracked on that because Article 50 hadn't been triggered.

    If the wheels don't come off the economy bigly and soon, there will be even more egg on all your faces.

    I really am sick and tired of explaining this same thing over and over.
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,767
    edited March 2017

    All thanks to us still being in the EU
    yesh cos those recent investments couldnt have foreseen us leaving, I mean it;s only be annoiunced for 9 months

    fking brainless
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 62,091

    There's a very simple test on being British.

    Do you favour nuking France?

    If yes, then you're as British as bulldog flying a Spitfire.

    If no, then you're as foreign as The House of Windsor.

    Spare 10 mins?

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0qgbvWgGMhw
  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340

    only in your head

    out in the sticks were dancing round the maypole, banging on the Bhangra and enjoying the first days of spring

    youre mowing people down on pavements
    Tsk, you should know by now that I have data for my assertions:

    http://news.sky.com/story/brexit-britain-sky-data-poll-reveals-a-nation-divided-10713985
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 53,409

    There's a very simple test on being British.

    Do you favour nuking France?

    If yes, then you're as British as bulldog flying a Spitfire.

    If no, then you're as foreign as The House of Windsor.

    LEAVERS = RAF
    EU = LUFTWAFFE
    REMAINERS = Mosley & Co.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,326

    htps://twitter.com/SamCoatesTimes/status/847540109335556098
    htps://twitter.com/SamCoatesTimes/status/847540318501302273

    Lab are talking to the people, man.

    Not listening to them, mind you.
  • HurstLlamaHurstLlama Posts: 9,098
    edited March 2017
    RobD said:

    Except the Aquitaine.. and the bit around Calais.
    Noooooo! They can keep Calais - it is a dump. Finessing the Frogs into taking it back was the one good thing Bloody Mary ever did (even if it was by accident). Aquitaine and, of course Normandy, are ours by right.
  • isamisam Posts: 41,134

    I would rather be a BME person in Britain, than in Alastair Meeks' Hungary! :p
    Migrants in Containers

    https://bloom.bg/2oc7WCE
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,767

    Tsk, you should know by now that I have data for my assertions:

    http://news.sky.com/story/brexit-britain-sky-data-poll-reveals-a-nation-divided-10713985
    zzz

    things move on, in 12 months no one will give a shit
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,767

    Noooooo! They can keep Calais - it is a dump. Finessing the Frogs into taking it back was the one good thing Bloody Mary ever did (even if it was by accident). Aquitaine and, of course Normandy, are ours by right.
    wrong!

    the bloody frogs trashed the place so we'd never want ir back
  • MarkSeniorMarkSenior Posts: 4,699

    LEAVERS = RAF
    EU = LUFTWAFFE
    REMAINERS = Mosley & Co.
    Leavers traitors hell bent on destroying the economy of this country and breaking up the UK - should all be put against a wall and shot .
  • Ishmael_ZIshmael_Z Posts: 8,981
    isam said:

    Migrants in Containers

    https://bloom.bg/2oc7WCE
    Tis the only way. Let the buggers loose and property prices would go through the floor.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,131
    edited March 2017
    I thought we were all trans-racial nowadays?
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,326
    kle4 said:

    Wiltshire was only just Leave, but the prediction seems pretty solid (although the Green prediction would come out of nowhere) - the LDs actually increased their numbers last time despite a massive drop in overall votes (in part due to not standing in several places), but there are a few seats they lost to Indy's last time they would expect to get back as well as a couple lost in by-elections they might get back, and one of the 4 Lab seats has a majority of 1. Only 1 UKIP was elected last time out of 98 despite a good night for UKIP in other places, so a decent guess would it would not hold that.

    Interesting from the prediction the LD vote must be much more concentrated in Cornwall!

    Speaking of the Moonraker county, I don't know if the Indy prediction includes the local political party in Devizes - they had 3 seats in 2009, all lost to Con in 2013, but its conceivable they win those back.
  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340

    zzz

    things move on, in 12 months no one will give a shit
    Today your fellow Leavers are applying loyalty tests to suspect posters. I very much doubt whether in 12 months Britain will be any chirpier than today.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,326

    I thought we were all trans-racial nowadays?

    Post-racial perhaps. Or omni-racial.
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,767

    Leavers traitors hell bent on destroying the economy of this country and breaking up the UK - should all be put against a wall and shot .
    will the LDs be putting that in their manifesto ?
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 53,409

    Leavers traitors hell bent on destroying the economy of this country and breaking up the UK - should all be put against a wall and shot .
    All 17 million of us? Genocidal thoughts noted...
  • isamisam Posts: 41,134
    After hearing Cameron is now a Brexiteer, I am imagining a parallel universe where Remain won and Nigel Farage is in Brussels saying "oh there are large parts of this Union that I really like, the British people have always had great regard for EU federalism"
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,131
    isam said:

    After hearing Cameron is now a Brexiteer, I am imagining a parallel universe where Remain won and Nigel Farage is in Brussels saying "oh there are large parts of this Union that I really like, the British people have always had great regard for EU federalism"

    I hear he is also a regular Morrisons shopper, who loves nothing more than to stock up cheap Guinness...
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362

    will the LDs be putting that in their manifesto ?
    lol
  • isamisam Posts: 41,134

    I hear he is also a regular Morrisons shopper, who loves nothing more than to stock up cheap Guinness...
    When not cheering on West Hamston Villa
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,314
    edited March 2017

    Leavers traitors hell bent on destroying the economy of this country and breaking up the UK - should all be put against a wall and shot .
    Charming! I think the most Leavers want is Remainers to be put in reeducation camps... :smiley:
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 62,091
    isam said:

    After hearing Cameron is now a Brexiteer, I am imagining a parallel universe where Remain won and Nigel Farage is in Brussels saying "oh there are large parts of this Union that I really like, the British people have always had great regard for EU federalism"

    Alastair Meeks is Bill Cash.
  • MarkSeniorMarkSenior Posts: 4,699
    RobD said:

    Charming! I think the most Leavers want is Remainers to be put in reeducation camps... :smiley:
    Responding in kind , some people dont like it up em only dishing it out
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,767

    Alastair Meeks is Bill Cash.
    Isnt that a little unfair on Bill Cash ? I mean he's quite open mided by comparison.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 53,409

    Responding in kind , some people dont like it up em only dishing it out
    Like I said, like Mosley & co :lol:
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,314

    Isnt that a little unfair on Bill Cash ? I mean he's quite open mided by comparison.
    Very good.. :D
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,767
    David Cameron
  • CyanCyan Posts: 1,262
    Word is that now that Macron, Fillon and Mélenchon have pulled out of the 20 April TV debate, and Le Pen has suggested that she too may withdraw, France Télévisions - operator of the France 2 channel - may call it off.

    Hamon and Dupont-Aignan have said they will take part.

    France Télévisions will announce their decision tomorrow morning (Friday).

    As far as I'm aware, none of the 11 candidates has pulled out of the BFMTV-CNews debate scheduled for 4 April, next Tuesday.
  • MonikerDiCanioMonikerDiCanio Posts: 5,792
    edited March 2017
    isam said:

    After hearing Cameron is now a Brexiteer, I am imagining a parallel universe where Remain won and Nigel Farage is in Brussels saying "oh there are large parts of this Union that I really like, the British people have always had great regard for EU federalism"

    Did you read The Spectator profile of Cameron ?

    He was a complete fraud.

    Private Education for the kids, you bet.
    White's , never out of it now.
    Blood sports, lots and lots.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,326
    edited March 2017

    some people dont like it up em only dishing it out
    In my experience, a lot of people who 'dish it out' like to defend it on the basis of being able to 'take it' as well, while generally displaying very little indication they are in fact able to take it given reaction to similar treatment, and also use it as an excuse to be nasty to lots of people in the first instance, regardless of whether that person is dishing it out or not.
  • glwglw Posts: 10,309
    Very good. You're on good form tonight.
  • Magnificent tweet from the next First Minister of Scotland

    https://twitter.com/RuthDavidsonMSP/status/847552540959002624
  • Dave's still a Remainer.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,314

    Magnificent tweet from the next First Minister of Scotland

    twitter.com/RuthDavidsonMSP/status/847552540959002624

    Careful, you'll trigger the Klaxon.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 53,409

    Dave's still a Remainer.
    Not a Be-Leaver?
  • chestnutchestnut Posts: 7,341
    edited March 2017
    FF43 said:

    My guess is that if we don't agree to do the exit the EU way, they will stall. That's what they usually do, recently with Greece on debt rescheduling and with Switzerland on immigration. Sort of Wellington to Napoleon, ironically. We'll say, can we talk about whether we can fly our planes, raise finance and trade in two years, one year and then six months time? And they will say, sure, once we have got the exit stuff out the way.

    It's better not to get into that situation in the first place.
    Yes, it would be best to avoid.

    I can't imagine that the Irish in particular fancy the EU offering them up as a human sacrifice in the name of the EU stalling strategy.

    The 27 will not stick together.

  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,326

    Magnificent tweet from the next First Minister of Scotland

    https://twitter.com/RuthDavidsonMSP/status/847552540959002624

    She has got a pretty reasonable twitter game, not that that in itself means anything.

    I am mildly curious at who suggests the framing for these type of photos and what message they are going for.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,096
    edited March 2017

    Dave's still a Remainer.
    He renounced his remainership this morning :p

    Only St George & TSE the last Tory remainers.
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,767

    Magnificent tweet from the next First Minister of Scotland

    https://twitter.com/RuthDavidsonMSP/status/847552540959002624

    Jesus, dont tell me theyre digging Maggie up ?
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 53,409

    Magnificent tweet from the next First Minister of Scotland

    https://twitter.com/RuthDavidsonMSP/status/847552540959002624

    Nicola = Tory sleeper agent?
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,767

    Jesus, dont tell me theyre digging Maggie up ?

    Still youve got a point, shed do a better job.

  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,131
    Stored under...things you couldn't make up...
  • MonksfieldMonksfield Posts: 2,859
    Essexit said:

    Liberal Democrat leader Tim Farron has vowed to go into the Parliamentary trenches over the Bill.

    He said: 'We are going to launch a legislative war.

    'We will grind the Government's agenda to a standstill, unless proper and rigorous safeguards are given over the great repeal bill.'


    Watch out Theresa, all 9 LibDems will try to 'grind your agenda to a standstill'!

    Give me strength.
    Haha, you sound worried. After all fighting wars on many fronts at once has always been the road to defeat.
  • Pulpstar said:

    He renounced his remainership this morning :p

    Only St George & TSE the last Tory remainers.
    Don't believe the hype, this is what Dave said

    'Of course, the result is not the result that I sought'
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,326

    Jesus, dont tell me theyre digging Maggie up ?
    I live in hope that one day supporters and opponents will stop using Thatcher to convince me of anything, but that day is a long way off, particularly since everything May does will be compared to Thatcher.
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,767

    Dave's still a Remainer.
    Dave just bends and flows with the wind.

    Whereas George is just a git.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,314
    @Alanbrooke - Maggie as FM is the only way we can keep them in line. :p:D
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 53,409

    Haha, you sound worried. After all fighting wars on many fronts at once has always been the road to defeat.
    9 LibDems on the Eastern Front?

    Das war ein Befehl! Der Farron-Angriff war ein Befehl!!
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,096
    RobD said:
    Yep Junker is a bit of an embarrasment. Personally I quite like Donald Tusk, I think he's excellent for Europe.
  • welshowlwelshowl Posts: 4,464
    chestnut said:

    Yes, it would be best to avoid.

    I can't imagine that the Irish in particular fancy the EU offering them up as a human sacrifice in the name of the EU stalling strategy.
    Ireland must be watching all this from behind the sofa through their fingers. It's a rock and hard place not of their making. Agriculture in particular must be concerned.
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,767
    edited March 2017

    Don't believe the hype, this is what Dave said

    'Of course, the result is not the result that I sought'
    Just to scare you

    do you know Laura Kuenssbergs husband is called James Kelly

    spooky
  • MarkSeniorMarkSenior Posts: 4,699
    kle4 said:

    In my experience, a lot of people who 'dish it out' like to defend it on the basis of being able to 'take it' as well, while generally displaying very little indication they are in fact able to take it given reaction to similar treatment, and also use it as an excuse to be nasty to lots of people in the first instance, regardless of whether that person is dishing it out or not.
    I agree with you .......... I think .
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,131
    Pulpstar said:

    Yep Junker is a bit of an embarrasment. Personally I quite like Donald Tusk, I think he's excellent for Europe.
    He was absolutely out of his tree today, banging on about heading a campaign for Ohio to leave the USA.
  • isamisam Posts: 41,134
    edited March 2017

    Magnificent tweet from the next First Minister of Scotland

    https://twitter.com/RuthDavidsonMSP/status/847552540959002624

    Maggies place is more contemporary
  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    isam said:

    Maggies place is more contemporary
    Both of them show admirable colour coordination with their sofas.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,314
    Pulpstar said:

    Yep Junker is a bit of an embarrasment. Personally I quite like Donald Tusk, I think he's excellent for Europe.
    I must watch the footage. He surely can't be drunk all the time can he?
  • glwglw Posts: 10,309

    He was absolutely out of his tree today, banging on about heading a campaign for Ohio to leave the USA.
    What?
  • Just to scare you

    do you know Laura Kuenssbergs husband is called James Kelly

    spooky
    Stop trying to get me into trouble.
  • MonikerDiCanioMonikerDiCanio Posts: 5,792
    isam said:

    Maggies place is more contemporary
    Thatcher's picture is more harmonious. Nicola should have dyed her hair blue.
  • Tsk, you should know by now that I have data for my assertions:

    http://news.sky.com/story/brexit-britain-sky-data-poll-reveals-a-nation-divided-10713985
    We've been divided for decades, Brexit has just dragged the divisions into the open.
  • Someone asked for a seat change tally, in those councils where the boundaries have not been changed, the changes come out as follows: Con +36, Lab -118, Lib Dem +127, Ind unchanged, Local Independents +8, Liberals unchanged, UKIP -63, Green +11, Mebynon Kernow +1, Ratepayers -3, NHA unchanged. In terms of councils Con +1 (GAIN Derbyshire and Norfolk, lose Surrey), Lab -2 (lose Derbyshire and Durham), NOC +1 (Con GAIN Norfolk to NOC, Lab lose Durham to NOC, Con lose Surrey to NOC)
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,131
    edited March 2017
    glw said:

    What?
    Juncker threatens to promote Ohio independence after Trump’s Brexit backing

    http://www.politico.eu/article/juncker-threatens-to-promote-ohio-independence-after-trumps-brexit-backing/

    Some people manage to be functioning alcoholics...others not so much...
  • welshowlwelshowl Posts: 4,464
    glw said:

    What?
    And Texas.
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,767

    Juncker threatens to promote Ohio independence after Trump’s Brexit backing

    http://www.politico.eu/article/juncker-threatens-to-promote-ohio-independence-after-trumps-brexit-backing/

    Juncker threatens to promote Ohio independence after Trump’s Brexit backing

    http://www.politico.eu/article/juncker-threatens-to-promote-ohio-independence-after-trumps-brexit-backing/
    I think thats one Donald would win
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,314
    Pulpstar said:

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPgiI46FCDU

    Orban must hate him!
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 33,238

    Stored under...things you couldn't make up...
    Stored under .... stories that are more than 2 years old but are dragged out and re-dated by the Indie because they can't find anything more relevant. The original dates to March 2015.
  • MonksfieldMonksfield Posts: 2,859

    He was absolutely out of his tree today, banging on about heading a campaign for Ohio to leave the USA.
    Sounds like Farage who I understand is campaigning for the division of California..
  • MarkSeniorMarkSenior Posts: 4,699
    kle4 said:

    Wiltshire was only just Leave, but the prediction seems pretty solid (although the Green prediction would come out of nowhere) - the LDs actually increased their numbers last time despite a massive drop in overall votes (in part due to not standing in several places), but there are a few seats they lost to Indy's last time they would expect to get back as well as a couple lost in by-elections they might get back, and one of the 4 Lab seats has a majority of 1. Only 1 UKIP was elected last time out of 98 despite a good night for UKIP in other places, so a decent guess would it would not hold that.

    Interesting from the prediction the LD vote must be much more concentrated in Cornwall!

    My forecast for Wiltshire not too different from Harry's

    Con 53 LD 30 Ind 11 Lab 4

    and Cornwall

    LD 58 Ind 30 Con 25 MK 5 Lab 4 Green 1 may change slightly after nominations if any Independents are standing down

  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,957

    Someone asked for a seat change tally, in those councils where the boundaries have not been changed, the changes come out as follows: Con +36, Lab -118, Lib Dem +127, Ind unchanged, Local Independents +8, Liberals unchanged, UKIP -63, Green +11, Mebynon Kernow +1, Ratepayers -3, NHA unchanged. In terms of councils Con +1 (GAIN Derbyshire and Norfolk, lose Surrey), Lab -2 (lose Derbyshire and Durham), NOC +1 (Con GAIN Norfolk to NOC, Lab lose Durham to NOC, Con lose Surrey to NOC)

    That would be a truly spectacular result for the Lib Dems.
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 33,238

    Wishful thinking. The linkage between this question and the status of Northern Ireland and Scotland will be one of the first things to blindside the government.
    No it really won't. The EU will be told to go take a running jump and stop interfering in the internal affairs of a country. Scotland will hopefully get independence at some point soon but it won't be because of the EU sticking its nose in. I really don't think countries like Spain would welcome setting a precedent like that
  • MonksfieldMonksfield Posts: 2,859

    And there we go again.
    He's only telling the truth. Own it!
  • TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,454

    Stored under...things you couldn't make up...
    Isn't this like six years old or something? remember it waaaayyy back
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 33,238
    welshowl said:

    And Texas.
    Actually I think he said specifically Austin Texas. Not sure why he feels the rest of the State is unworthy of his attention. :)
  • welshowlwelshowl Posts: 4,464

    Actually I think he said specifically Austin Texas. Not sure why he feels the rest of the State is unworthy of his attention. :)
    Well Austin is the capital, and I guess if your're from Luxembourg you conflate the capital with the whole state easily enough. Well after a glass or two at least
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 62,091

    I think thats one Donald would win
    He's a one man political hand-grenade.
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