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http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/boys-quizzed-over-500-rapes-a-year-by-gangs-8335165.html
or the grooming gangs (at least relative to the amount of airtime they gave to the Catholic priests) etc - basically anything that contradicts their PC religion.
The joke in PMQs? Hardly qualifies as an attack. I think it's pretty clear that the BBC has an institutional Labour bias at the moment so the PM was making a decent point that even the BBC's own survey supported government data points.
An apposite reality check. This "we're lovable rogues really" is frankly pathetic.
They're a pernicious bunch of thugs and bully boys as the public well recognize.
The lower down the order they go the worse they get.
Incidentally I doubt the Mail would still be on 22% if the poll was taken today
BBC 2003 81% to 2013 61% low point was Nov 2012 44%.
http://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/d6ivvwfnpo/YG trackers-Trust-2.pdf
Trust in 2003 (Today vs 2003):
BBC News Journalists: 81 (-20)
ITV News Journalists: 82 (-28)
Times/Tele/Guardian: 65 (-22)
Mail/Express: 36 (-14)
Leading Lab: 25 (-2)
Leading Con: 20 (+1)
Leading LibD: 36 (-18)
Sun/Mirror: 14 (+1)
It's the Lib Dems who have trashed their trust rating - Lab & Con are virtually unmoved.
The BBC & ITV have recovered vs their lows of a year ago (44 and 41 respectively), while the Newspapers have also recovered to an extent, but not as strongly (Broad +5, Mail, +4, Sun +5).
http://yougov.co.uk/news/2012/11/13/problem-trust/
"The BBC "completely rejects" a claim by the Daily Mail's editor that coverage of the paper's article on Labour leader Ed Miliband's father was "one-sided".
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24508073
On that basis, can't everyone be expected to have declined by about 7-8% of their previous level?
Jan 2012: 60
Oct 2012: 57
Nov 2012: 44
Dec 2012: 51
Mar 2013: 61
Family Doctors: -10
School Teachers: -14
But both still enjoy very high levels of trust, and proportionately these are smaller than the hits journalists on broadsheets & TV have taken. No one much trusted the red tops ever.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/royal-mail/10373868/Hedge-fund-investing-in-Royal-Mail-employs-George-Osbornes-friend.html
Say what you like about Tony Blair, but at least his centrism gave Labour some foothold in reality. Now they're being led by a Marxist they're completely consumed by all the far-left persecution fantasies that come with it.
The Mail might be seen as only a third as trusted as the Guardian, but it sells a hell of a lot more papers.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/10373539/George-Osborne-dashes-hopes-of-tax-cuts-as-he-focuses-on-cutting-borrowing.html
Like he's going to set that hare running.....I suspect he'd prefer a rabbit out of a hat, in any case.....
Which is the lizard? Osborne or the friend?
'The Mail might be seen as only a third as trusted as the Guardian, but it sells a hell of a lot more papers."
On any given day Melanie Phillips might have more readers than Shakespeare but only a moron would try to suggest it's better.
Eat shit. Two million flies can't be wrong
Mad Mel has left the Mail - but Left Foot Forward did a summary of her greatest "hits"
http://www.leftfootforward.org/2013/09/goodbye-mel-we-wont-miss-you-a-look-back-at-melanie-phillipss-greatest-hits/
You chose not to be as that suits your personality, and your professional life as an author, blogger and journo.
What happened to tim on here a few years ago was disgusting, and not one of PB's finest hours, although I don't know all the specifics, I think I remember tim's name, his rough location and job, details which it's absolutely none of my business knowing. There was also something involving TSE a few years ago as well, again, I can't recall the specifics, again, it's none of my business.
I don't think digging into a poster's private life benefits anyone on PB, and it certainly shouldn't be used to score points by any side, such as in this case with tim's dig at you, or your retaliation.
Its about the only thing that could drive me off PB.
http://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/r4r40d1fp0/YG-Archive-Pol-Sunday-Times-results-041013.pdf
"Do keep up Roger!"
That's hilarious! Do we know the whereabouts of these 'pastures new'? My hope is she's safely sectioned under the wing of Nurse Ratched and is no longer a danger to herself or anyone else
"...he had photos of the Queen and Mrs Thatcher on his wall. But I couldn’t see him having Cameron there.’
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2455499/Minder-star-George-Coles-anguish-daughter-turned-him.html
A very well written article about Mad Mel. If it's typical of Left Foot Forward I'll have to start reading it.
*chortle*
:that-is-all:
I was shocked and horrified to see the BLATANT and HIDEOUS bias in the BBC article below.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-24498481
My suspicions were first raised when I realised that the GWR had not even been formed in 1831, when the COMMUNIST BBC LIE the coach was built. And that clerestory coaches were not introduced until decades later. Such facts should flow in the very veins of any red-blooded Englishman. This shows the article was the work of a heinous foreign INFILTRATOR. Or worse, a WOMAN.
It's obvious what's going on here. The BBC are trying to MUDDY the glories of the Victorian age by pretending that it started in William IV's reign. By doing this, they DILUTE the glories of her age, and moving the Reform crisis onto her shoulders.
In so doing, they SMEAR the GREATEST queen (apart from Elizabeth II, God bless her, and Elizabeth I, who saved us from Europe the first time, and perhaps Mary, who introduced a much-beloved drink) who has ever reigned over us forelock-tugging folk. By HUMILIATING the good name of the monarchy in this manner, they are a step forward in their attempts to bring in a SOCIALIST, nay, COMMUNIST state.
I am cancelling my licence fee forthwith.
:-)
He knifed the idiot brother?
Honestly, I'd be really struggling too. Nothing springs to mind for me.
I'd approve of that, even if it was an afterthought.
If that's not the answer then I give up. Was it a trick question?
http://www.cs.vintagecarriagestrust.org/se/CarriageInfo.asp?Ref=59
Dates back to 1881.
Anyone so inclined could work out who I am, and I don't particularly care. That is my choice. I've mentioned my personal website twice, mentioned my village on several occasions when it's relevant, and everyone knows I'm a walking-mad, railways-mad, engineering-mad, mad geek.
The problem I have with Tim on this matter is that he is an attack-dog. He is constantly attacking people on here. Again, I have little problem with that per se, and people respond likewise, to the extent that it becomes hard to know who started long-running feuds. However, he does tend to use the fact that people have been open about certain things against them, whilst hiding beneath his own cloak.
After a while that gets wearying. It gets particularly so when he accuses politicians - who have chosen to be in the public eye and suffer the mud, slings and arrows that are thrown their way - as cowards, when he still hides beneath that cloak.
http://www.conservativehome.com/platform/2013/10/ted-yarbrough-lucky-you-part-two-british-culture-and-social-services-are-stronger-than-americas.html
Trust in the public sector has diminished because the electorate in general no longer trusts their employees to tell the truth but only offer excuses for failure and say that lessons will be learned after each recurring failure.
Also parts of the public sector that they regarded as their "friends" (e.g. police, local council and even teachers) now only seem to impose restrictions on their activity and to give out monetary fines for contraventions (e.g. wrong items in bins, speed cameras operate by police as an easy kill, and fines for taking child out of school for a holiday)
There is also a growing gap between what politicians/police/councils/social services want to impose and what the electorate desire/require and what they believe is natural justice.
However, the electorate has to shoulder some of the problem as they want the pubic sector to take on problems that used to be their responsibility (e.g care of aging parents).
Some people are never going to like Ed, some are never going to like Dave, let's be honest
But with Miliband, it's hard to find anything positive:
* He stood up to the unions? Err, not any more.
* Has fresh ideas? Straight out the seventies.
* Talks about cost of living? But he helped cause some of those costs.
* Isn't as bad as Ed Balls? Ok, I'll give him that NO! He made Balls shadow Chancellor
Soviet Colonel Polosukhin, last visitor to Borodino Museum as staff evacuate, signs visitor's book: "I am here to defend the battlefield."
You rather oddly manage to mix up two completely different concepts there. You ask for approval of anything Ed has done and then flip that to something that is "a bad idea". Those aren't the same things.
To dig you out of your own confusion about what you're asking, I'd summarise that I'm not a fan of either of them but I'd take Dave as PM rather than Ed if forced to choose.
It could only happen in PB Tory world.
Unspoofable indeed. ;^ )
Anyway, does it really matter what any one poster's individual circumstances are? What matters is whether what they are arguing stands up or not.
2003: 36 (20/25)
2006: 25 (19/20)
2007: 19 (17/14)
2008: 29 (27/20)
2010: 27 (August) (29/23)
2011: 18 (22/25)
2012: 17 (22/23)
So joining the coalition did not initially hurt them (in Aug 2010 Con was on 29, their highest ever).....then they had to do things....
http://cdn.yougov.com/cumulus_uploads/document/syrhatyofp/Trust_trends_Nov_2012.pdf
2003: 36 (20/25) +16
2006: 25 (19/20) +6
2007: 19 (17/14) +2
2008: 29 (27/20) +2
2010: 27 (August) (29/23) -2
2011: 18 (22/25) -4
2012: 17 (22/23) -5
LD have been trending down compared to the Conservatives for some time.
Tim what experience, knowledge or achievements do you have that sets you so far above other people on here in your mind? Have you set up a successful business or managed a group with over 100 people or written a successful book or created a successful product or service? Have you made a speech in front of hundreds of people in a foreign country and had a recording shown on that tv? Ever had a non-political article published in print? Have you been a Director or reported to FTSE 100 Board Director or undertaken business in more than 20 countries or met many Heads of State? Or have you worked as a SPAD in the UK Govt? Or stood for a local or national election and won? What exactly sets you apart from these people you call "dullards"?
Sometimes the circumstances you describe can come together to make compelling testimony. Nightjack and InspectorGadget were two examples where anonymity together with personal circumstances gave us insights we'd otherwise not have had. The Magistrate's Blog etc aren't whistleblowing gossip sites but are valuable ways for us to glimpse behind the curtain. Often that makes them more potent.
http://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/d6ivvwfnpo/YG trackers-Trust-2.pdf
Senior police officers 2003 72 to 2013 51
In other words a whole bundle of scandals that have played out resembling a slow motion car-crash. I certainly don't regret calling for a public inquiry when all that started and the continuing idiotic blundering from BBC execs bears that out. Strange that not many PB tories agreed with me though. Their trust is eroding but it's still WAY above the print media while ITV has somehow managed to be below the BBC and they haven't made the same kind of stupid scandalous errors.
Trust levels are poor for all of them with most still dropping apart from those who basically couldn't get much lower anyway.
Most stark is the precipitous drop from leading lib dem politicians who are certainly feeling the warmth of Clegg's almost comical level of voter repelling toxicity.
In case you missed it earlier, the pre-race article for Japan is up here: http://enormo-haddock.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/japan-pre-race.html
Worth recalling that the race starts at 7am.
Everyone likes that nice newsreader that does Children in Need - she just reads the teleprompter.
Pass the salt for this poll.
Labour got only 28.1% of the votes in the GE in England.
They were thrashed - humiliated.
Of course that then brings up the question why aren't ITV trusted more? The answer is all the older media is taking a hit and while I certainly wouldn't expect stratospheric levels of trust in internet news sources (to say the least) it's the multiplicity of new media and broadcasting platforms and payment methods which is going to force the question on the BBC license fee sooner or later. NOT predictable political attacks on them from those in the print media who have done that for decades anyway.
But the numbers in this poll do roughly agree with my perceptions, except maybe for the relatively high judgement on teachers, for many of people I hear talk of this seem only to slag them off, almost implying that their main use is to keep kids off the streets. I hasten to add that my parents made it clear that teachers should generally be second only to "family".
Let's not spoil my night calling each other names and being beastly to each other!
Give me your trust, said the Aes Sedai.
On my shoulders I support the sky.
Trust me to know and to do what is best,
And I will take care of the rest.
But trust is the color of a dark seed growing.
Trust is the color of a heart’s blood flowing.
Trust is the color of a soul’s last breath.
Trust is the color of death.
Give me your trust, said the queen on her throne,
for I must bear the burden all alone.
Trust me to lead and to judge and to rule,
and no man will think you a fool.
But trust is the sound of the grave-dog’s bark.
Trust is the sound of betrayal in the dark.
Trust is the sound of a soul’s last breath.
Trust is the sound of death.
Given little Ed's new found fondness for taking on all and sundry then the BBC would seem to be the next in line. It also presupposes that little Ed might be fond of a headline grabbing manifesto promise like "we'll slash the license fee" which, given recent events, is quite likely.
If I were a BBC manager I'd be drawing up contingency plans for a freemium type model because the public is indeed growing more hostile to the license fee as technology gives them so many more options. So some kind of change is inevitable. Even the lib dems might be persuaded to look at it again.
"A NORTH-East MP was left red-faced after his leaflet boasted of “helping local people” – next to a picture of two Spanish models."
http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/10734382.MP_s_leaflet_used_Spanish_models_in__Real_People__leaflet/?ref=twtrec
Until he wins a GE you might be advised to tone down the bragging. Pride, fall etc - some Sat night advice for free.
Sooner La Toynbee is despatched to permanently bore her neighbours in Tuscany, the better.
LOL