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It is sickening to witness the snivelling, skin crawling, sinister sycophancy from the PB Leaver Trumptons ramp up a level with every passing day. The pathetic, cap-doffing snotty slugs sliming up to the Grade A twat is a truly disgusting spectacle. Eurgh.-1
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Fpt Trudeau at 42% in polls with 13 points lead...similar to Tessy. Hardly losing his lustre.0
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Lots of Labour MPs tweeting in support of Nadhim Zahawi, and Tory MPs against Trump
If May doesn't get her act together her approval ratings are in trouble0 -
Hoping trump isn't watching bbc one, might give him some ideas for his new torture regime.0
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May and Trump, hand in hand, together til the end.0
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May should have heeded her own advice - 'engage but beware'.Jonathan said:May and Trump, hand in hand, together til the end.
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@bbclaurak: On landing at Heathrow Number 10 won't add anything to Trump story0
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Fools rush in ...williamglenn said:
May should have heeded her own advice - 'engage but beware'.Jonathan said:May and Trump, hand in hand, together til the end.
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Giant Twitterstorm in progress. Meanwhile...Scott_P said:Lots of Labour MPs tweeting in support of Nadhim Zahawi, and Tory MPs against Trump
If May doesn't get her act together her approval ratings are in trouble
https://twitter.com/jimwaterson/status/825457688196820995
When May stonewalled the question on this topic at the Turkish news conference, we don't know how much she knew of Trump's newly-minted executive order. I dare say that she was rather more interested in dealing with policy towards Turkey at the time. Given that she was in Turkey. And ordinarily you would say that another country's immigration and asylum policies were for that other country to determine, would you not?
Give her time: if she's not in command of all the facts as of yet then she should be later tonight. If by tomorrow lunchtime there's no response, or no appropriate response at any rate, on this subject then, by all means, go to town.0 -
https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/825461437090902016Black_Rook said:
Giant Twitterstorm in progress. Meanwhile...Scott_P said:Lots of Labour MPs tweeting in support of Nadhim Zahawi, and Tory MPs against Trump
If May doesn't get her act together her approval ratings are in trouble
https://twitter.com/jimwaterson/status/825457688196820995
When May stonewalled the question on this topic at the Turkish news conference, we don't know how much she knew of Trump's newly-minted executive order. I dare say that she was rather more interested in dealing with policy towards Turkey at the time. Given that she was in Turkey. And ordinarily you would say that another country's immigration and asylum policies were for that other country to determine, would you not?
Give her time: if she's not in command of all the facts as of yet then she should be later tonight. If by tomorrow lunchtime there's no response, or no appropriate response at any rate, on this subject then, by all means, go to town.
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This makes him qualified for office, surely?williamglenn said:
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She's snookered herself. If she gives an appropriate response she destroys the goodwill she's created with Trump. If she doesn't then she loses credibility at home. Her strategy now fully depends on Trump being impeached.Black_Rook said:If by tomorrow lunchtime there's no response, or no appropriate response at any rate, on this subject then, by all means, go to town.
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I don't think that merited carrying over fpt. Presumably you don't either, since you neglected to mark it fpt. The point you need to take on board is that neither the results of UK referendums, nor of US elections, are even slightly correlated with the distribution of your toys between the pram and the ground. Name-calling does not affect the situation either.Jobabob said:It is sickening to witness the snivelling, skin crawling, sinister sycophancy from the PB Leaver Trumptons ramp up a level with every passing day. The pathetic, cap-doffing snotty slugs sliming up to the Grade A twat is a truly disgusting spectacle. Eurgh.
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Lets see what happens tomorrow. Marr is on at 9.00 and Sophy at 10.00williamglenn said:
She's snookered herself. If she gives an appropriate response she destroys the goodwill she's created with Trump. If she doesn't then she loses credibility at home. Her strategy now fully depends on Trump being impeached.Black_Rook said:If by tomorrow lunchtime there's no response, or no appropriate response at any rate, on this subject then, by all means, go to town.
These programmes should be interesting.
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We appear to have a new favourite for French President on Betfair. Expected it to happen, but thought it would be in reaction to the next poll.RobD said:0 -
My last thought before I go to bed. We know that May was closemouthed and secretive at the Home Office. We know that she doesn't respect the news cycle. Her instincts will be to do her diplomacy in private. This is not going to play well with the media who are now (as usual) barking at the moon, because: Trump.
While I don't agree with William that we're dependent on him being impeached, I think she's going to have to handle this incredibly carefully. First big optics test for May - and she's already been given a failing grade by a lot of people.0 -
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Update from Leeds Central: well, we have managed to elect another Corbynite as CLP secretary, and to round off the evening we passed a policy motion calling for the renationalisation of British Airways.
More interesting were Hilary's comments on Brexit. He thinks we might have to concede preferential immigration access for EU citizens in order to get the deal we want on the Single Market / Customs Union. He is also concerned about Irish cross-border issues; his committee is off to Dublin and NI to take evidence.0 -
What should she have done differently?williamglenn said:
She's snookered herself. If she gives an appropriate response she destroys the goodwill she's created with Trump. If she doesn't then she loses credibility at home. Her strategy now fully depends on Trump being impeached.Black_Rook said:If by tomorrow lunchtime there's no response, or no appropriate response at any rate, on this subject then, by all means, go to town.
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Not rushed to visit the White House so quickly.Ishmael_Z said:
What should she have done differently?williamglenn said:
She's snookered herself. If she gives an appropriate response she destroys the goodwill she's created with Trump. If she doesn't then she loses credibility at home. Her strategy now fully depends on Trump being impeached.Black_Rook said:If by tomorrow lunchtime there's no response, or no appropriate response at any rate, on this subject then, by all means, go to town.
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Erm is British Airways a top priority for being government run? I know it got derision, but wider public involvement in the social care sector sounded the best bet, followed by railways and energy. To me BA would rank #949, a couple of places behind Thomas Cook...SandyRentool said:Update from Leeds Central: well, we have managed to elect another Corbynite as CLP secretary, and to round off the evening we passed a policy motion calling for the renationalisation of British Airways.
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Quite!TheWhiteRabbit said:
Erm is British Airways a top priority for being government run? I know it got derision, but wider public involvement in the social care sector sounded the best bet, followed by railways and energy. To me BA would rank #949, a couple of places behind Thomas Cook...SandyRentool said:Update from Leeds Central: well, we have managed to elect another Corbynite as CLP secretary, and to round off the evening we passed a policy motion calling for the renationalisation of British Airways.
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How many PBers are at their best after a flight, to compose themselves to deal with a minor kerfuffle?
Perhaps the media should be told to Foxtrot Oscar, and wait until the morning.0 -
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Give it a restwilliamglenn said:
Not rushed to visit the White House so quickly.Ishmael_Z said:
What should she have done differently?williamglenn said:
She's snookered herself. If she gives an appropriate response she destroys the goodwill she's created with Trump. If she doesn't then she loses credibility at home. Her strategy now fully depends on Trump being impeached.Black_Rook said:If by tomorrow lunchtime there's no response, or no appropriate response at any rate, on this subject then, by all means, go to town.
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All May has to do is stand up for British citizens. She needn't criticise the order head on, just say it goes a little too far to achieve its aims.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Give it a restwilliamglenn said:
Not rushed to visit the White House so quickly.Ishmael_Z said:
What should she have done differently?williamglenn said:
She's snookered herself. If she gives an appropriate response she destroys the goodwill she's created with Trump. If she doesn't then she loses credibility at home. Her strategy now fully depends on Trump being impeached.Black_Rook said:If by tomorrow lunchtime there's no response, or no appropriate response at any rate, on this subject then, by all means, go to town.
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I can see the trump response tweet now...Failing NY cabs, always said Uber is the future...Scott_P said:0 -
Fools rush inBig_G_NorthWales said:
Give it a restwilliamglenn said:
Not rushed to visit the White House so quickly.Ishmael_Z said:
What should she have done differently?williamglenn said:
She's snookered herself. If she gives an appropriate response she destroys the goodwill she's created with Trump. If she doesn't then she loses credibility at home. Her strategy now fully depends on Trump being impeached.Black_Rook said:If by tomorrow lunchtime there's no response, or no appropriate response at any rate, on this subject then, by all means, go to town.
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Your posts here consist almost universally of malevolent vituperation. You seem like quite a troubled individual, and I pity you.Jobabob said:It is sickening to witness the snivelling, skin crawling, sinister sycophancy from the PB Leaver Trumptons ramp up a level with every passing day. The pathetic, cap-doffing snotty slugs sliming up to the Grade A twat is a truly disgusting spectacle. Eurgh.
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@PolhomeEditor: So Theresa May has now arrived back from Turkey. Into an enormous shit storm.0
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But the pace was 100% set by Trump. Are you suggesting she should have said sorry, too busy now, maybe April (thereby snubbing and angering Trump)? Is that what say Cameron or Miliband would have done if they were now PM?williamglenn said:
Not rushed to visit the White House so quickly.Ishmael_Z said:
What should she have done differently?williamglenn said:
She's snookered herself. If she gives an appropriate response she destroys the goodwill she's created with Trump. If she doesn't then she loses credibility at home. Her strategy now fully depends on Trump being impeached.Black_Rook said:If by tomorrow lunchtime there's no response, or no appropriate response at any rate, on this subject then, by all means, go to town.
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May's great mistake was legging it like a smitten puppy to Washington. Sadly there are enough sycophants on her side and morons in the nonexistent Opposition that she will probably get away with it. But she is a weak, weak, weak PM.-1
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PredictableJonathan said:
Fools rush inBig_G_NorthWales said:
Give it a restwilliamglenn said:
Not rushed to visit the White House so quickly.Ishmael_Z said:
What should she have done differently?williamglenn said:
She's snookered herself. If she gives an appropriate response she destroys the goodwill she's created with Trump. If she doesn't then she loses credibility at home. Her strategy now fully depends on Trump being impeached.Black_Rook said:If by tomorrow lunchtime there's no response, or no appropriate response at any rate, on this subject then, by all means, go to town.
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@williamglenn Are you still supporting Trump?0
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@benrileysmith: Number 10, Home Office and Foreign Office declining to comment on Trump ban impacting Brits. Uh oh.0
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You are in the minorityJobabob said:May's great mistake was legging it like a smitten puppy to Washington. Sadly there are enough sycophants on her side and morons in the nonexistent Opposition that she will probably get away with it. But she is a weak, weak, weak PM.
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@malachybrowne: Trump's order implemented at Irish airports with US pre-clearance. Nationals of those countries also told not to turn up for visa interviews0
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Has TSE been banned from the US?Scott_P said:@benrileysmith: Number 10, Home Office and Foreign Office declining to comment on Trump ban impacting Brits. Uh oh.
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You're not telling me Downing Street wasn't active in pushing for an early meeting? It obviously riled them that Farage was lording his good relationship with Trump over them.Ishmael_Z said:
But the pace was 100% set by Trump. Are you suggesting she should have said sorry, too busy now, maybe April (thereby snubbing and angering Trump)? Is that what say Cameron or Miliband would have done if they were now PM?williamglenn said:
Not rushed to visit the White House so quickly.Ishmael_Z said:
What should she have done differently?williamglenn said:
She's snookered herself. If she gives an appropriate response she destroys the goodwill she's created with Trump. If she doesn't then she loses credibility at home. Her strategy now fully depends on Trump being impeached.Black_Rook said:If by tomorrow lunchtime there's no response, or no appropriate response at any rate, on this subject then, by all means, go to town.
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People who think that May shouldn't have accepted a visit with our #1 military partner, our #1 intelligence partner, our #1 bilateral investment partner and #1 export market (yes, pedants, individual countries) are, frankly, fuckwits.
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Give her ten f****** minutes! It's ten o'clock, she just needs something out for when people wake up tomorrow.Scott_P said:@benrileysmith: Number 10, Home Office and Foreign Office declining to comment on Trump ban impacting Brits. Uh oh.
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That is the role of a Prime Minister.Scott_P said:@PolhomeEditor: So Theresa May has now arrived back from Turkey. Into an enormous shit storm.
Have you ever suffered jetlag. You can hardly stand up after long transatlantic flights let alone think clearly.
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The suggestion that she could or should have declined the invitation or proposed a later date is a non-starter.Jobabob said:May's great mistake was legging it like a smitten puppy to Washington. Sadly there are enough sycophants on her side and morons in the nonexistent Opposition that she will probably get away with it. But she is a weak, weak, weak PM.
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Just "no thanks". What if he asked her to stick her head in the gas oven? Or back Scottish independence?Ishmael_Z said:
But the pace was 100% set by Trump. Are you suggesting she should have said sorry, too busy now, maybe April (thereby snubbing and angering Trump)?williamglenn said:
Not rushed to visit the White House so quickly.Ishmael_Z said:
What should she have done differently?williamglenn said:
She's snookered herself. If she gives an appropriate response she destroys the goodwill she's created with Trump. If she doesn't then she loses credibility at home. Her strategy now fully depends on Trump being impeached.Black_Rook said:If by tomorrow lunchtime there's no response, or no appropriate response at any rate, on this subject then, by all means, go to town.
So the US citizen who is currently the British foreign secretary has nothing to say? Or is Alan Duncan responsible for British relations with the US given Mophead's conflict of interest?Scott_P said:@benrileysmith: Number 10, Home Office and Foreign Office declining to comment on Trump ban impacting Brits. Uh oh.
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Harsh, but fair.John_M said:People who think that May shouldn't have accepted a visit with our #1 military partner, our #1 intelligence partner, our #1 bilateral investment partner and #1 export market (yes, pedants, individual countries) are, frankly, fuckwits.
Night all.
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Another hand-wringing leftie ...
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Perhaps they are trying to find out from Trump if his XO is being interpreted correctly? And it being Saturday night trump at the moment unavailable as he is preparing to get angry at SNL and send out some zinger tweets.Scott_P said:@benrileysmith: Number 10, Home Office and Foreign Office declining to comment on Trump ban impacting Brits. Uh oh.
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She was right to go. It remains to be seen whether or not she can have any positive influence on Trump, but it's necessary to try. And the visit to the Congressional Republicans went well. That said...williamglenn said:
Not rushed to visit the White House so quickly.Ishmael_Z said:
What should she have done differently?williamglenn said:
She's snookered herself. If she gives an appropriate response she destroys the goodwill she's created with Trump. If she doesn't then she loses credibility at home. Her strategy now fully depends on Trump being impeached.Black_Rook said:If by tomorrow lunchtime there's no response, or no appropriate response at any rate, on this subject then, by all means, go to town.
She's not going to be able to get away with diving and downing periscope on this one - and questioning discrimination against British dual nationals would not only be the right thing to do under the circumstances, it's also the best option politically. At least if she has to do something that could annoy Trump, she'll also be demonstrating to the audience at home that she's not in his pocket.John_M said:My last thought before I go to bed. We know that May was closemouthed and secretive at the Home Office. We know that she doesn't respect the news cycle. Her instincts will be to do her diplomacy in private. This is not going to play well with the media who are now (as usual) barking at the moon, because: Trump.
While I don't agree with William that we're dependent on him being impeached, I think she's going to have to handle this incredibly carefully. First big optics test for May - and she's already been given a failing grade by a lot of people.0 -
Shame on this weak Prime Minister when echoes of the 1930's are clearly audible.Scott_P said:@benrileysmith: Number 10, Home Office and Foreign Office declining to comment on Trump ban impacting Brits. Uh oh.
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If Theresa is damaged by this, then all the blame will have to be laid at Farage's door. He spooked Theresa into this who-can-meet-Trump-first contest with that silliness in the lift. They should have let Trump bed in for a few months so everyone could acclimatise to him. Instead Theresa is looking like a Trump courtier. She is in danger of losing her reputation for cool detachment.Scott_P said:Lots of Labour MPs tweeting in support of Nadhim Zahawi, and Tory MPs against Trump
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@GuardianHeather: Also May used (excellent) Philadelphia speech to set UK and US up as defenders of liberty and rights.Black_Rook said:She was right to go. It remains to be seen whether or not she can have any positive influence on Trump, but it's necessary to try. And the visit to the Congressional Republicans went well. That said...
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Grow upDromedary said:
Just "no thanks". What if he asked her to stick her head in the gas oven? Or back Scottish independence?Ishmael_Z said:
But the pace was 100% set by Trump. Are you suggesting she should have said sorry, too busy now, maybe April (thereby snubbing and angering Trump)?williamglenn said:
Not rushed to visit the White House so quickly.Ishmael_Z said:
What should she have done differently?williamglenn said:
She's snookered herself. If she gives an appropriate response she destroys the goodwill she's created with Trump. If she doesn't then she loses credibility at home. Her strategy now fully depends on Trump being impeached.Black_Rook said:If by tomorrow lunchtime there's no response, or no appropriate response at any rate, on this subject then, by all means, go to town.
So the US citizen who is currently the British foreign secretary has nothing to say? Or is Alan Duncan responsible for British relations with the US given Mophead's conflict of interest?Scott_P said:@benrileysmith: Number 10, Home Office and Foreign Office declining to comment on Trump ban impacting Brits. Uh oh.
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Again, a non-starter of a suggestion. Not a scrap of evidence for it, and no reason to believe the approach would have worked. And actually too dangerous to try, because Trump in a bad mood would be more than capable of tweeting his rejection of the approach.williamglenn said:
You're not telling me Downing Street wasn't active in pushing for an early meeting? It obviously riled them that Farage was lording his good relationship with Trump over them.Ishmael_Z said:
But the pace was 100% set by Trump. Are you suggesting she should have said sorry, too busy now, maybe April (thereby snubbing and angering Trump)? Is that what say Cameron or Miliband would have done if they were now PM?williamglenn said:
Not rushed to visit the White House so quickly.Ishmael_Z said:
What should she have done differently?williamglenn said:
She's snookered herself. If she gives an appropriate response she destroys the goodwill she's created with Trump. If she doesn't then she loses credibility at home. Her strategy now fully depends on Trump being impeached.Black_Rook said:If by tomorrow lunchtime there's no response, or no appropriate response at any rate, on this subject then, by all means, go to town.
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@bbclaurak: Corbyn-'May should have stood up for Britain and our values by condemning his actions. It should sadden our country that she chose not to'0
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Has the whole nationals/country of birth thing been clarified?Scott_P said:@malachybrowne: Trump's order implemented at Irish airports with US pre-clearance. Nationals of those countries also told not to turn up for visa interviews
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Grow upDromedary said:
Just "no thanks". What if he asked her to stick her head in the gas oven? Or back Scottish independence?Ishmael_Z said:
But the pace was 100% set by Trump. Are you suggesting she should have said sorry, too busy now, maybe April (thereby snubbing and angering Trump)?williamglenn said:
Not rushed to visit the White House so quickly.Ishmael_Z said:
What should she have done differently?williamglenn said:
She's snookered herself. If she gives an appropriate response she destroys the goodwill she's created with Trump. If she doesn't then she loses credibility at home. Her strategy now fully depends on Trump being impeached.Black_Rook said:If by tomorrow lunchtime there's no response, or no appropriate response at any rate, on this subject then, by all means, go to town.
So the US citizen who is currently the British foreign secretary has nothing to say? Or is Alan Duncan responsible for British relations with the US given Mophead's conflict of interest?Scott_P said:@benrileysmith: Number 10, Home Office and Foreign Office declining to comment on Trump ban impacting Brits. Uh oh.
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Yep. Just like Trump supporters in the United States. Your point is?Big_G_NorthWales said:
You are in the minorityJobabob said:May's great mistake was legging it like a smitten puppy to Washington. Sadly there are enough sycophants on her side and morons in the nonexistent Opposition that she will probably get away with it. But she is a weak, weak, weak PM.
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She should have maintained a distance and not try to give an enthusiastic impression about their meeting. Always use the long spoon when you sup with the devil !Ishmael_Z said:
What should she have done differently?williamglenn said:
She's snookered herself. If she gives an appropriate response she destroys the goodwill she's created with Trump. If she doesn't then she loses credibility at home. Her strategy now fully depends on Trump being impeached.Black_Rook said:If by tomorrow lunchtime there's no response, or no appropriate response at any rate, on this subject then, by all means, go to town.
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Yeah, it was definitely Hawaii.RobD said:
Has the whole nationals/country of birth thing been clarified?Scott_P said:@malachybrowne: Trump's order implemented at Irish airports with US pre-clearance. Nationals of those countries also told not to turn up for visa interviews
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Oh you!Ishmael_Z said:
Yeah, it was definitely Hawaii.RobD said:
Has the whole nationals/country of birth thing been clarified?Scott_P said:@malachybrowne: Trump's order implemented at Irish airports with US pre-clearance. Nationals of those countries also told not to turn up for visa interviews
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Nigel Farage holds no public office other than as an MEP. He can meet who he likes. A prime minister should be responsible for their own actions.Stark_Dawning said:
If Theresa is damaged by this, then all the blame will have to be laid at Farage's door. He spooked Theresa into this who-can-meet-Trump-first contest with that silliness in the lift. They should have let Trump bed in for a few months so everyone could acclimatise to him. Instead Theresa is looking like a Trump courtier. She is in danger of losing her reputation for cool detachment.Scott_P said:Lots of Labour MPs tweeting in support of Nadhim Zahawi, and Tory MPs against Trump
If May doesn't get her act together her approval ratings are in trouble
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Also, re the previous thread: pleased to see the reaction to comments regarding Lee Rigby's murderers being Black. But I do find it odd that some PBers seem to see being in an interracial relationship as being some sort of litmus test for integration. There are plenty of immigrants, such as my grandparents on my mother's side (Jamacian immigrants) who have integrated while being married to people of the same race.0
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This is week one. This ban will be clarified, Trump will back-peddle, say it was all misinterpreted, and we'll move on. Then something else will happen and then something else and then something else. And each time we'll see that photo of Trump and May hand in hand.0
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Indeed. While he obviously won the electoral college, it's important to remember that most of the American electorate voted for Hilary Clinton. Then there are his dire approval ratings.Jobabob said:
Yep. Just like Trump supporters in the United States. Your point is?Big_G_NorthWales said:
You are in the minorityJobabob said:May's great mistake was legging it like a smitten puppy to Washington. Sadly there are enough sycophants on her side and morons in the nonexistent Opposition that she will probably get away with it. But she is a weak, weak, weak PM.
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Did anyone notice Tezza in the US saying she would speak to her fellow leaders in Europe?
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She was a model of icy distance compared to Blair Brown and Cameron's respective feats of rectal mountaineering with their respective POTUSes.surbiton said:
She should have maintained a distance and not try to give an enthusiastic impression about their meeting. Always use the long spoon when you sup with the devil !Ishmael_Z said:
What should she have done differently?williamglenn said:
She's snookered herself. If she gives an appropriate response she destroys the goodwill she's created with Trump. If she doesn't then she loses credibility at home. Her strategy now fully depends on Trump being impeached.Black_Rook said:If by tomorrow lunchtime there's no response, or no appropriate response at any rate, on this subject then, by all means, go to town.
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Yes, no doubt it'll be posted on here ad nauseamSouthamObserver said:This is week one. This ban will be clarified, Trump will back-peddle, say it was all misinterpreted, and we'll move on. Then something else will happen and then something else and then something else. And each time we'll see that photo of Trump and May hand in hand.
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@OwenJones84: I now have four British friends banned from entering the United States, abandoned by their own government0
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When I see the word most, I think it'd be something like 70%, or 80%. Not 48%The_Apocalypse said:
Indeed. While he obviously won the electoral college, it's important to remember that most of the American electorate voted for Hilary Clinton. Then there are his dire approval ratings.Jobabob said:
Yep. Just like Trump supporters in the United States. Your point is?Big_G_NorthWales said:
You are in the minorityJobabob said:May's great mistake was legging it like a smitten puppy to Washington. Sadly there are enough sycophants on her side and morons in the nonexistent Opposition that she will probably get away with it. But she is a weak, weak, weak PM.
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Fake news. SadIshmael_Z said:
Yeah, it was definitely Hawaii.RobD said:
Has the whole nationals/country of birth thing been clarified?Scott_P said:@malachybrowne: Trump's order implemented at Irish airports with US pre-clearance. Nationals of those countries also told not to turn up for visa interviews
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I know someone who smoked like a chimney but lived to 100 so smoking isn't necessarily linked to bad healthThe_Apocalypse said:Also, re the previous thread: pleased to see the reaction to comments regarding Lee Rigby's murderers being Black. But I do find it odd that some PBers seem to see being in an interracial relationship as being some sort of litmus test for integration. There are plenty of immigrants, such as my grandparents on my mother's side (Jamacian immigrants) who have integrated while being married to people of the same race.
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I think everyone needs to calm down and get a good night.
It hasn't featured on tomorrows papers apart from the Observer and is still ongoing news.
Reserve your judgements until tomorrow and see how the story evolves.
Remember the Trident test problem when everyone rushed to blame Theresa May when after a few days it turned out it was Obama who had asked Cameron too treat it as classified as it was a US missile failure
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I'd imagine Cameron at least would have dealt far better with the situation. Sure I recall both he and Osborne making their views on Trump very clear.Ishmael_Z said:
She was a model of icy distance compared to Blair Brown and Cameron's respective feats of rectal mountaineering with their respective POTUSes.surbiton said:
She should have maintained a distance and not try to give an enthusiastic impression about their meeting. Always use the long spoon when you sup with the devil !Ishmael_Z said:
What should she have done differently?williamglenn said:
She's snookered herself. If she gives an appropriate response she destroys the goodwill she's created with Trump. If she doesn't then she loses credibility at home. Her strategy now fully depends on Trump being impeached.Black_Rook said:If by tomorrow lunchtime there's no response, or no appropriate response at any rate, on this subject then, by all means, go to town.
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You have to go back several decades to find a weaker Tory PM than Theresa May. She capitulated to the Tory Right within weeks of coming to power then brown-nosed a bigoted moron in the White House soon after. Sir John Major and David Cameron look like lionhearts compared to her.surbiton said:
Shame on this weak Prime Minister when echoes of the 1930's are clearly audible.Scott_P said:@benrileysmith: Number 10, Home Office and Foreign Office declining to comment on Trump ban impacting Brits. Uh oh.
Only Corbyn is keeping her from being in deep trouble. Her support is a mile wide, and a millimetre deep.
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@cbsMcCormick: CBS News: US AMB to Iraq has warned Trump Adm the Iraqi Government is considering banning all American passport holders entry to the country0
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Are Trump's actions unconstitutional? Arguable?Scott_P said:
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https://twitter.com/notafrododo/status/825135762295422976surbiton said:
Shame on this weak Prime Minister when echoes of the 1930's are clearly audible.Scott_P said:@benrileysmith: Number 10, Home Office and Foreign Office declining to comment on Trump ban impacting Brits. Uh oh.
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This is where the media keep making the same mistake. They have got right at this, total outrage, when there is still elements which aren't clear. Then when Trump "clarifies" he is able to claim fake news media.SouthamObserver said:This is week one. This ban will be clarified, Trump will back-peddle, say it was all misinterpreted, and we'll move on. Then something else will happen and then something else and then something else. And each time we'll see that photo of Trump and May hand in hand.
We know they have to deal with the lying and slippery moves / backtracking etc, but they have already been caught this week on the wrong end of the "mass resignation" story.0 -
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Trump will clearly have to build a northern border wall now to stop folks sneaking in through the back door.Scott_P said:0 -
Being pro-interracial relationships used to be about letting others date whoever they wanted to. Not about proving how much you identify with Britain. And I say as someone who is mixed race.isam said:
I know someone who smoked like a chimney but lived to 100 so smoking isn't necessarily linked to bad healthThe_Apocalypse said:Also, re the previous thread: pleased to see the reaction to comments regarding Lee Rigby's murderers being Black. But I do find it odd that some PBers seem to see being in an interracial relationship as being some sort of litmus test for integration. There are plenty of immigrants, such as my grandparents on my mother's side (Jamacian immigrants) who have integrated while being married to people of the same race.
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Basically they are racists! Trump is their hero. They have finally found a voice.Jobabob said:It is sickening to witness the snivelling, skin crawling, sinister sycophancy from the PB Leaver Trumptons ramp up a level with every passing day. The pathetic, cap-doffing snotty slugs sliming up to the Grade A twat is a truly disgusting spectacle. Eurgh.
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I don't think so. I'd have thought the trip to the States would have been much the same, albeit a bit frostier, and without the whole "holding hands" thing to distract. Maybe Cameron would have had a statement out, but not a substantive one. Surely I'm not the only one who thinks this situation can't resolved in fifteen minutes?midwinter said:
I'd imagine Cameron at least would have dealt far better with the situation. Sure I recall both he and Osborne making their views on Trump very clear.Ishmael_Z said:
She was a model of icy distance compared to Blair Brown and Cameron's respective feats of rectal mountaineering with their respective POTUSes.surbiton said:
She should have maintained a distance and not try to give an enthusiastic impression about their meeting. Always use the long spoon when you sup with the devil !Ishmael_Z said:
What should she have done differently?williamglenn said:
She's snookered herself. If she gives an appropriate response she destroys the goodwill she's created with Trump. If she doesn't then she loses credibility at home. Her strategy now fully depends on Trump being impeached.Black_Rook said:If by tomorrow lunchtime there's no response, or no appropriate response at any rate, on this subject then, by all means, go to town.
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I wasn't following, what wasn't true in the resignation story?FrancisUrquhart said:
This is where the media keep making the same mistake. They have got right at this, total outrage, when there is still elements which aren't clear. Then when Trump "clarifies" he is able to claim fake news media.SouthamObserver said:This is week one. This ban will be clarified, Trump will back-peddle, say it was all misinterpreted, and we'll move on. Then something else will happen and then something else and then something else. And each time we'll see that photo of Trump and May hand in hand.
We know they have to deal with the lying and slippery moves / backtracking etc, but they have already been caught this week on the wrong end of the "mass resignation" story.0 -
https://twitter.com/georgeeaton/status/825470999483252736
Exactly. We haven't long to find out. That said...
https://twitter.com/StewartWood/status/825095953648644101
It remains to be seen, but this could turn into her bacon sandwich moment. Only rather less trivial.0 -
Moderators. Please remove the above post. Ta.surbiton said:
Basically they are racists! Trump is their hero. They have finally found a voice.Jobabob said:It is sickening to witness the snivelling, skin crawling, sinister sycophancy from the PB Leaver Trumptons ramp up a level with every passing day. The pathetic, cap-doffing snotty slugs sliming up to the Grade A twat is a truly disgusting spectacle. Eurgh.
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Cameron would never have got himself into this position, he would have triangulated effectively and professionally. She just looks like a hand holding shill.midwinter said:
I'd imagine Cameron at least would have dealt far better with the situation. Sure I recall both he and Osborne making their views on Trump very clear.Ishmael_Z said:
She was a model of icy distance compared to Blair Brown and Cameron's respective feats of rectal mountaineering with their respective POTUSes.surbiton said:
She should have maintained a distance and not try to give an enthusiastic impression about their meeting. Always use the long spoon when you sup with the devil !Ishmael_Z said:
What should she have done differently?williamglenn said:
She's snookered herself. If she gives an appropriate response she destroys the goodwill she's created with Trump. If she doesn't then she loses credibility at home. Her strategy now fully depends on Trump being impeached.Black_Rook said:If by tomorrow lunchtime there's no response, or no appropriate response at any rate, on this subject then, by all means, go to town.
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Yeah No 10 would be very wise to actually say something on this issue, Even if it is to disagree with Trump, which May said she would do in public if necessary. Doubly so if British citizens without any other nationality are being banned.TheWhiteRabbit said:
I don't think so. I'd have thought the trip to the States would have been much the same, albeit a bit frostier, and without the whole "holding hands" thing to distract. Maybe Cameron would have had a statement out, but not a substantive one. Surely I'm not the only one who thinks this situation can't resolved in fifteen minutes?midwinter said:
I'd imagine Cameron at least would have dealt far better with the situation. Sure I recall both he and Osborne making their views on Trump very clear.Ishmael_Z said:
She was a model of icy distance compared to Blair Brown and Cameron's respective feats of rectal mountaineering with their respective POTUSes.surbiton said:
She should have maintained a distance and not try to give an enthusiastic impression about their meeting. Always use the long spoon when you sup with the devil !Ishmael_Z said:
What should she have done differently?williamglenn said:
She's snookered herself. If she gives an appropriate response she destroys the goodwill she's created with Trump. If she doesn't then she loses credibility at home. Her strategy now fully depends on Trump being impeached.Black_Rook said:If by tomorrow lunchtime there's no response, or no appropriate response at any rate, on this subject then, by all means, go to town.
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Just like he triangulated effectively and professionally the 'renegotiation'?Jobabob said:
Cameron would never have got himself into this position, he would have triangulated effectively and professionally. She just looks like a hand holding shill.midwinter said:
I'd imagine Cameron at least would have dealt far better with the situation. Sure I recall both he and Osborne making their views on Trump very clear.Ishmael_Z said:
She was a model of icy distance compared to Blair Brown and Cameron's respective feats of rectal mountaineering with their respective POTUSes.surbiton said:
She should have maintained a distance and not try to give an enthusiastic impression about their meeting. Always use the long spoon when you sup with the devil !Ishmael_Z said:
What should she have done differently?williamglenn said:
She's snookered herself. If she gives an appropriate response she destroys the goodwill she's created with Trump. If she doesn't then she loses credibility at home. Her strategy now fully depends on Trump being impeached.Black_Rook said:If by tomorrow lunchtime there's no response, or no appropriate response at any rate, on this subject then, by all means, go to town.
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