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logical_song said:

MikeK said:

SquareRoot said:

Breaking news BBC

UKIP being investigated by electoral commission over EU funds and the use thereof

I should have thought that would be called Rotten Old News, as this was reported days ago. Wake up SquareRoot!

I think the difference is the involvement of the electoral commission.

Perhaps they could investigate the off sheet value of Civil Service resources allocated to the Remain campaign.

Pulpstar said:

rcs1000 said:

Pulpstar said:

rcs1000 said:

Pulpstar said:

Pulpstar said:

Turnout has exceeded 2008 levels by the way.

Will be the highest turnout since 1968.

Trump is also on course to record the most GOP votes ever.

1. Obama '08
2. Obama '12
3. Clinton '16
4. Trump '16
5. Bush '04.

Given the US population is rising, that should be no surprise.

Is it rising faster than ours ?

Cameron a long way behind Major and Thatcher even though he had alot more people to work with in 2015 !

          US        UK
1980      226.5     56.3
1985      237.9     56.55
1990      249.6     57.25
1995      266.3     58.02
2000      282.2     58.89
2005      295.5     60.4
2010      309.3     62.77
2014      318.9     64.55

Increase  41%       15%

Very interesting, their population growth is ~ 1% a year whereas ours is 0.5%.

Also interesting (although admittedly based on too few data points) - the % population growth rate post 2005 seems to be converging.

Could Mrs Farage cope with the drop in salary and tedium of having an interview to be an office manager in the embassy?

MarqueeMark said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

https://twitter.com/JenniferMerode/status/801002335086477313

From the school of "wanting to get fucked and stay virgins".

When will the government actually listen to what is being said and announce no tax credits or housing benefits for new imigrants.
You can come but you have to pay your way, in the same way I would if I went to work in Switzerland.

I'm sure over half our EU issues at the moment is due to our inability to say no, you can't have those in work benefits for x years.

TCPoliticalBetting said:

Paristonda said:

GeoffM said:

Pulpstar said:

Does anyone know who the current US ambassador is ?

I certainly don't.

We should not rule it out at this stage. It is both an opportunity and a threat.

The US ambassador to the UK?
That's a Democrat fundraiser and activist called Barzun who bought his way into the job.
wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Barzun

Our ambassador to them is a Blairite career EUphilic diplomat with a background in zoology.

This is a great chance to get shot of both of them.

Do we now need Trump's permission to get rid of our own ambassadors? Nothing stopping us getting rid of the current ambassador if we want to.
If Theresa May really wants to tell Trump to do one, she should sack the current ambassador and replace him with anyone but Farage

Trump is a chump on this matter but he has given us an advantage. He wants someone different there. It is good that we now know that Darroch is unwelcome with Trump. Maybe Darroch was also unwelcome to Obama, but Obama never told us - we just got overlooked... to the back of the queue maybe? Replacing Darroch would be the smart move and it should be someone untainted by being a europhile so that Farage can feel he has wielded influence. Finding a non-europhile at the Foreign Office is probably impossible. Therefore since we need an Ambassador focused on Trade with USA, Mrs May should consider a well known business person with charm, who is also a eurosceptic. Lord Digby Jones for example?

In other words roll over HMG, due to a tweet for God's sake.

jcesmond said:

logical_song said:

MikeK said:

SquareRoot said:

Breaking news BBC

UKIP being investigated by electoral commission over EU funds and the use thereof

I should have thought that would be called Rotten Old News, as this was reported days ago. Wake up SquareRoot!

I think the difference is the involvement of the electoral commission.

Perhaps they could investigate the off sheet value of Civil Service resources allocated to the Remain campaign.

What has that got to do with it?

Morning all

I had a thought - the likely UUP French Presidential candidate, the British Minister of Defence and the Liberal Democrat leader stand in a room:

Fillon meets Fallon meets Farron.

I'll get me stoat...

Jonathan said:

rottenborough said:

logical_song said:

Chelyabinsk said:

I'm starting to understand how Trump spent so little to win the Presidency. Note that nowhere in this tweet does he say he wants Farage as ambassador. If he did, he could have done so in one sentence. Instead, we have 'Many people [but not necessarily me] would like to see Farage' coupled with Trump's own ego-stroking comment about a political ally that 'He would do a great job'. All it took was one completely contentless tweet- so contentless that Trump wouldn't even have to back down from it- and he's dominating the news cycles again, thanks to people speculating about the effects of a policy he didn't even announce.

The question that journalists and commentators should really be asking is whether Trump is trying to use this tweet to overshadow another less beneficial story that's just hit the news, or perhaps to prevent the news cycle dissecting an earlier story that has served its purpose. No wonder he showed so much contempt for them in the face-to-face meeting, if he can play them this easily.

That's correct. However, it won't work forever.

How far will he push it all before even the GOP moves for impeachment? I give it two, maybe three years, as the issues with his business, family and POTUS all become hopelessly entangled. It seems he plans to use the office to further his business deals - yesterday he was lobbying a group of, iirc, Argentinians for a building permit.

We're in for a loooooooong eight years.

Surely only four, but it will certainly feel long.

SandyRentool said:

There is an article on Labour List regarding the potential deselection of Hilary Benn. Reading the comments it is clear that the splits in Labour are now so deep that I cannot see how they can be reconciled.

Judging the temperature of anything by online comments is a thankless task - like the Mail it attracts the ultra-zealous. I don't think there is any likelihood of deselection of Hilary or almost anyone else except Danczuk - there just isn't an organised movement to do it, as Momentum always saw it as a "fleet in being" thing which they'd potentially unleash if MPs didn't accept Corbyn's re-election. The article itself refers to "a few" people trying, meh.

JosiasJessop said:

Off-topic:

Another interesting, if debatable, Binkov's Battlegrounds:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3VqF2dXje0

TSE might like an earlier video, France versus UK.

It's not off-topic. America is unlikely to win all-out war with China. The purpose of the military competition between China is to keep access to the South China Sea and influence with countries in East Asia and the western seabord of the Pacific Ocean. TPP was an American attempt to keep those states in its camp. The so-called "pivot to China" in US foreign policy. Trump's abolition of TPP, confirmed today, indicates it will no longer bother, leaving the way clear to China. Which means the US military presence there is redundant.

China's rise in its region and US concurrent decline as a world power may be inevitable. Trump is undoubtedly speeding up the American decline.

matt said:

Dadge said:

Sean_F said:

rkrkrk said:

Sean_F said:

rcs1000 said:

Alistair said:

I hope no one had money on the North Carolina governorship contest. Looks like the lose is trying shenanigans to end run round the result, and the NC legislature is apparebtly considering a court packing bill to get round the election of a liberal justice their supreme court. Bonkers.

I've just been reading about that; an absolutely astonishing story.

The North Carolina legislature seems to be among the most flagrantly partisan in the country.

It's a strange form of voter fraud that sees Trump and Senator Burr winning, and Mcrory losing.

Are there instances of Democrats seeking to steal elections like this? Maybe it's the partisan filter... But it always seems to be the republicans trying this kind of thing/seeking to disenfranchise minorities etc... I saw a great analysis on how long you have to queue to vote broken down by race...
Do the democrats not try things like closing rural polling stations?

The Democrats gerrymander as enthusiastically as Republicans do. I don't know if they go in for other shenanigans currently (obviously they did in the days of Mayor Daley/Tammany Hall). I suppose that their Sanctuary Cities could be seen as the equivalent of Republican malpractice.

Although Democrats gerrymander, it's an exaggeration to say that they do so as enthusiastically as Republicans. States that have non-partisan boundary commissions tend to be Blue states, and all the signatories to the NPVIC are Blue states. What's more, the level of detail in the gerrymandering in some Red states is second to none.

How does one decide whether a member of a commission is really non-partisan? Who appoints the members? Is non-partisan a strict legal test or is it open to creative interpretation?

I think it's equal numbers of Dems and GOP representatives so one member from either side needs to cross over to break a deadlock. It means there is more chance of there being a consensus and fair representation of voters.

Fuck me, I hadn't quite realised how much of Oakeshott's needle for Cameron was down to her fruitcakes, loonies and closet racist proclivities.

https://twitter.com/IsabelOakeshott/status/800966004079755264

logical_song said:

TCPoliticalBetting said:

Paristonda said:

GeoffM said:

Pulpstar said:

Does anyone know who the current US ambassador is ?

I certainly don't.

We should not rule it out at this stage. It is both an opportunity and a threat.

The US ambassador to the UK?
That's a Democrat fundraiser and activist called Barzun who bought his way into the job.
wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Barzun

Our ambassador to them is a Blairite career EUphilic diplomat with a background in zoology.

This is a great chance to get shot of both of them.

Do we now need Trump's permission to get rid of our own ambassadors? Nothing stopping us getting rid of the current ambassador if we want to.
If Theresa May really wants to tell Trump to do one, she should sack the current ambassador and replace him with anyone but Farage

Trump is a chump on this matter but he has given us an advantage. He wants someone different there. It is good that we now know that Darroch is unwelcome with Trump. Maybe Darroch was also unwelcome to Obama, but Obama never told us - we just got overlooked... to the back of the queue maybe? Replacing Darroch would be the smart move and it should be someone untainted by being a europhile so that Farage can feel he has wielded influence. Finding a non-europhile at the Foreign Office is probably impossible. Therefore since we need an Ambassador focused on Trade with USA, Mrs May should consider a well known business person with charm, who is also a eurosceptic. Lord Digby Jones for example?

In other words roll over HMG, due to a tweet for God's sake.

HMG now have an Ambassador who has been publicly scorned. It maybe unfair but Darroch can be moved for understandable reasons. In a past life I would move a country manager where the main government people wanted a change.

matt said:

Dadge said:

Sean_F said:

rkrkrk said:

Sean_F said:

rcs1000 said:

Alistair said:

I hope no one had money on the North Carolina governorship contest. Looks like the lose is trying shenanigans to end run round the result, and the NC legislature is apparebtly considering a court packing bill to get round the election of a liberal justice their supreme court. Bonkers.

I've just been reading about that; an absolutely astonishing story.

The North Carolina legislature seems to be among the most flagrantly partisan in the country.

It's a strange form of voter fraud that sees Trump and Senator Burr winning, and Mcrory losing.

Are there instances of Democrats seeking to steal elections like this? Maybe it's the partisan filter... But it always seems to be the republicans trying this kind of thing/seeking to disenfranchise minorities etc... I saw a great analysis on how long you have to queue to vote broken down by race...
Do the democrats not try things like closing rural polling stations?

The Democrats gerrymander as enthusiastically as Republicans do. I don't know if they go in for other shenanigans currently (obviously they did in the days of Mayor Daley/Tammany Hall). I suppose that their Sanctuary Cities could be seen as the equivalent of Republican malpractice.

Although Democrats gerrymander, it's an exaggeration to say that they do so as enthusiastically as Republicans. States that have non-partisan boundary commissions tend to be Blue states, and all the signatories to the NPVIC are Blue states. What's more, the level of detail in the gerrymandering in some Red states is second to none.

How does one decide whether a member of a commission is really non-partisan? Who appoints the members? Is non-partisan a strict legal test or is it open to creative interpretation?

It's a bright line test.

Non-partisan members do what all right-minded liberal folk think they should

''God help us if Le Pen wins. ''

France may be unhappy, but if the EU is anybody's creation it is theirs. I just don;'t see them ditching it. They just won't.

And it was a great speech.

Le Pen is singing from the Farage hymn sheet too. That said, I don;t think she'll win. France loves the EU too much.

TCPoliticalBetting said:

Paristonda said:

GeoffM said:

Pulpstar said:

Does anyone know who the current US ambassador is ?

I certainly don't.

We should not rule it out at this stage. It is both an opportunity and a threat.

The US ambassador to the UK?
That's a Democrat fundraiser and activist called Barzun who bought his way into the job.
wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Barzun

Our ambassador to them is a Blairite career EUphilic diplomat with a background in zoology.

This is a great chance to get shot of both of them.

Do we now need Trump's permission to get rid of our own ambassadors? Nothing stopping us getting rid of the current ambassador if we want to.
If Theresa May really wants to tell Trump to do one, she should sack the current ambassador and replace him with anyone but Farage

Trump is a chump on this matter but he has given us an advantage. He wants someone different there. It is good that we now know that Darroch is unwelcome with Trump.

I don't think we do. Trump often uses a technique called 'talking past the sale'. For instance, 'we're going to build a wall' invites the rejoinder 'we're not going to build a wall,' whereas 'we're going to build a wall and make Mexico pay for it' invites the rejoinder 'Mexico aren't going to pay for it'. When Trump got elected, despite losing the popular vote, some groups started the narrative that he wasn't really rightfully president- and the media were starting to pick up on it.

So what did Trump do? Made high-profile changes to his transition team, thus forcing the media to accept the inevitability of him coming into office. Had discussions with Mitt Romney, thus forcing the media to speculate about the makeup of his cabinet. I think this tweet is part of the same strategy. HMG being forced to deny that they'll be changing ambassadors strengthens Trump's narrative: he's talking past the sale of whether he was rightfully elected president, into the realm of him taking office and dealing with foreign policy.

There's a reason that Scott Adams went from 15k twitter followers to 100k over the course of the election, and it's not because the mainstream media is doing a good job of explaining Trump's actions.

taffys said:

That said, I don;t think she'll win. France loves the EU too much.

It's a mistake to frame it in those terms. Whether or not France loves the EU will not determine whether Le Pen wins or loses.

One of the less nutty things trump announced after saying he will pull out of TPP was ban on elected officials being lobbyists for 5 years & never on behalf of foreign governments.

''There's a rich seam of jokes for the French if he wins. ''

If a Thatcherite like Fillon won then Paris could mount a genuine challenge to the City.

If the bankers could get past the burning tyres, barricades, undumped rubbish and unburied bodies, that is.

MaxPB said:

taffys said:

''God help us if Le Pen wins. ''

France may be unhappy, but if the EU is anybody's creation it is theirs. I just don;'t see them ditching it. They just won't.

I think there is lot of unreported anger in France with the EU. A French guy I know de work used to be a massive raging EUphile when I met him, over the last couple of years he has slowly become more sceptical. He says he would have voted to remain, but I think in the privacy of the ballot box he would have voted to leave. The French have an ability to thumb their noses at authority. One of his main gripes is with Germany, to paraphrase, "who made her queen of Europe". I think when the French thought they were in charge they were happy with the EU, now that it's clear they aren't, they are unhappy with it.

The outrage at hollande minor labour law reform shows out of touch they are with the globalised world.

Casino_Royale said:

AlastairMeeks said:

Meanwhile, here's Charles Grant's take on how the EU is shaping up to deal with Brexit:

https://twitter.com/patrickwintour/status/800968433710075904

It doesn't make for comfortable reading.

Charles Grant is about as neutral as Michael Heseltine, and his agenda is to stop and reverse Brexit.

I'm sure the EU would have been happy to tell him just quite how awful they're going to have to be, and for him to write it.

It's a quite exceptionally good article, a must-read. The fact that you feel the need to shoot the messenger is in fact evidence of how good it is: it almost certainly is an accurate and well-informed account of how the the EU players view the negotiations. - which is exactly what we need to hear at this stage. Much of the UK commentary seems to assume that the UK gets to decide the terms of Brexit unilaterally.

Having said that, I was amused by one bit:

Reports of May’s meetings with other prime ministers are doing nothing to lift the pessimism in Brussels. Officials hear that she is unwilling to engage much on substance, reluctant to go beyond her speaking notes and seemingly concerned not to pursue courses that could upset Tory right-wingers. Err - I thought we weren't supposed to be negotiating with individual prime minister at all, let alone before Article 50 is triggered!

logical_song said:

taffys said:

''God help us if Le Pen wins. ''

France may be unhappy, but if the EU is anybody's creation it is theirs. I just don;'t see them ditching it. They just won't.

Well I hope you're right about Le Pen.
I was actually referring to TSE potential puns if Le Pen won.

Le Pen is mightier than the sword?

politics as entertainment. Have people forgotten there is a difference between reality tv and reality?

MrsB, one might say the bread and circuses approach is rather old-fashioned.

Richard_Nabavi said:

Casino_Royale said:

AlastairMeeks said:

Meanwhile, here's Charles Grant's take on how the EU is shaping up to deal with Brexit:

https://twitter.com/patrickwintour/status/800968433710075904

It doesn't make for comfortable reading.

Charles Grant is about as neutral as Michael Heseltine, and his agenda is to stop and reverse Brexit.

I'm sure the EU would have been happy to tell him just quite how awful they're going to have to be, and for him to write it.

It's a quite exceptionally good article, a must-read. The fact that you feel the need to shoot the messenger is in fact evidence of how good it is: it almost certainly is an accurate and well-informed account of how the the EU players view the negotiations. - which is exactly what we need to hear at this stage. Much of the UK commentary seems to assume that the UK gets to decide the terms of Brexit unilaterally.

Having said that, I was amused by one bit:

Reports of May’s meetings with other prime ministers are doing nothing to lift the pessimism in Brussels. Officials hear that she is unwilling to engage much on substance, reluctant to go beyond her speaking notes and seemingly concerned not to pursue courses that could upset Tory right-wingers. Err - I thought we weren't supposed to be negotiating with individual prime minister at all, let alone before Article 50 is triggered!

I am not shooting the messenger, I am qualifying the messenger.

Your personal slight implicit in your post is disappointing.

Dadge said:

Sean_F said:

rkrkrk said:

Sean_F said:

rcs1000 said:

Alistair said:

I hope no one had money on the North Carolina governorship contest. Looks like the lose is trying shenanigans to end run round the result, and the NC legislature is apparebtly considering a court packing bill to get round the election of a liberal justice their supreme court. Bonkers.

I've just been reading about that; an absolutely astonishing story.

The North Carolina legislature seems to be among the most flagrantly partisan in the country.

It's a strange form of voter fraud that sees Trump and Senator Burr winning, and Mcrory losing.

Are there instances of Democrats seeking to steal elections like this? Maybe it's the partisan filter... But it always seems to be the republicans trying this kind of thing/seeking to disenfranchise minorities etc... I saw a great analysis on how long you have to queue to vote broken down by race...
Do the democrats not try things like closing rural polling stations?

The Democrats gerrymander as enthusiastically as Republicans do. I don't know if they go in for other shenanigans currently (obviously they did in the days of Mayor Daley/Tammany Hall). I suppose that their Sanctuary Cities could be seen as the equivalent of Republican malpractice.

Although Democrats gerrymander, it's an exaggeration to say that they do so as enthusiastically as Republicans. States that have non-partisan boundary commissions tend to be Blue states, and all the signatories to the NPVIC are Blue states. What's more, the level of detail in the gerrymandering in some Red states is second to none.

North Carolina Congressional District 12 is an amazing work of egregious art.

logical_song said:

Charles said:

logical_song said:

taffys said:

''God help us if Le Pen wins. ''

France may be unhappy, but if the EU is anybody's creation it is theirs. I just don;'t see them ditching it. They just won't.

Well I hope you're right about Le Pen.
I was actually referring to TSE potential puns if Le Pen won.

Le Pen is mightier than the sword?

That's the one.

What would the royalties be worth if I could copywrite it?

NickPalmer said:

SandyRentool said:

There is an article on Labour List regarding the potential deselection of Hilary Benn. Reading the comments it is clear that the splits in Labour are now so deep that I cannot see how they can be reconciled.

Judging the temperature of anything by online comments is a thankless task - like the Mail it attracts the ultra-zealous. I don't think there is any likelihood of deselection of Hilary or almost anyone else except Danczuk - there just isn't an organised movement to do it, as Momentum always saw it as a "fleet in being" thing which they'd potentially unleash if MPs didn't accept Corbyn's re-election. The article itself refers to "a few" people trying, meh.

Nick, the Corbynites have taken over the CLP. They now hold all of the officer posts. This was planned and successfully executed at the AGM last month. There is a GC meeting on Friday - let's see what happens...

@SkyNewsBreak: Thomas Mair who is accused of murdering Labour MP Jo Cox has opted not to give evidence in his defence at the Old Bailey

edmundintokyo said:

TCPoliticalBetting said:

Trump is a chump on this matter but he has given us an advantage. He wants someone different there. It is good that we now know that Darroch is unwelcome with Trump. Maybe Darroch was also unwelcome to Obama, but Obama never told us - we just got overlooked...

I don't know why you'd think that Trump knows who the current UK ambassador to the US, let alone has an opinion about him.

Has the British Ambassador not made himself known to the Presdent elect or previously to the Republican presidential candidate?

If not, the Ambassador should be sacked.

David_Evershed said:

edmundintokyo said:

TCPoliticalBetting said:

Trump is a chump on this matter but he has given us an advantage. He wants someone different there. It is good that we now know that Darroch is unwelcome with Trump. Maybe Darroch was also unwelcome to Obama, but Obama never told us - we just got overlooked...

I don't know why you'd think that Trump knows who the current UK ambassador to the US, let alone has an opinion about him.

Has the British Ambassador not made himself known to the Presdent elect or previously to the Republican presidential candidate?

If not, the Ambassador should be sacked.

Trump is currently dealing a blizzard of problems and exciting grift opportunities. The idea that he's spending brain cycles on ambassadors of medium-sized countries is ridiculous.

https://twitter.com/whydontyoutube/status/801001025557643264

SandyRentool said:

NickPalmer said:

SandyRentool said:

There is an article on Labour List regarding the potential deselection of Hilary Benn. Reading the comments it is clear that the splits in Labour are now so deep that I cannot see how they can be reconciled.

Judging the temperature of anything by online comments is a thankless task - like the Mail it attracts the ultra-zealous. I don't think there is any likelihood of deselection of Hilary or almost anyone else except Danczuk - there just isn't an organised movement to do it, as Momentum always saw it as a "fleet in being" thing which they'd potentially unleash if MPs didn't accept Corbyn's re-election. The article itself refers to "a few" people trying, meh.

Nick, the Corbynites have taken over the CLP. They now hold all of the officer posts. This was planned and successfully executed at the AGM last month. There is a GC meeting on Friday - let's see what happens...

Prrediction: nothing!

Rexel56 said:

Could Mrs Farage cope with the drop in salary and tedium of having an interview to be an office manager in the embassy?

If Farage was ambassador to Germany, Mrs Farage could work as his interpreter.

As ever, the Daily Mash point of view is worth considering:

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/international/it-would-get-the-little-prick-out-of-the-country-realises-britain-20161122117597

JosiasJessop said:

PlatoSaid said:

Simon Richards
Another US tech giant has announced a major UK expansion https://t.co/AbBe8aoOPx via @CityAM

Good news. This is starting to look like an orchestrated campaign. If so, good on the government.

If you are tech company doing work where borders do not matter, then now is absolutely the time to get into the UK. We are currently Europe's tech capital, with open borders ensuring a free flow of top talent from across the continent. Waiting a few years - when the drawbridge could have been lifted - is not a good idea. Cloud-related services, as well as the kind of work that Google and Amazon do, is not predicated on access to the single market, just on the availability of good people. We have those in spades right now. Hopefully, we will ensure that continues after Brexit, too. That's what makes the work visa regime that is put in place so important. Being able to get your visa in the UK having travelled as a tourist to find work will be absolutely essential.

TheScreamingEagles said:

https://twitter.com/whydontyoutube/status/801001025557643264

I remember it like yesterday. I was with a group of other software guys in a small company. We got a phone call from someone's wife to say it had just been on telly (no Web then).

After jumping around the office for a bit we went to the pub.

Glorious!

In more scary news what will the West do about this?
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/russia-to-move-nuclear-capable-missiles-closer-to-europe-as-vladimir-putin-claims-nato-expansion-is-threat/ar-AAkAZTM?li=AAdeCd7&ocid=spartanntp

https://twitter.com/katyballs/status/801024519687307264

rottenborough said:

TCPoliticalBetting said:

edmundintokyo said:

David_Evershed said:

edmundintokyo said:

TCPoliticalBetting said:

Trump is a chump on this matter but he has given us an advantage. He wants someone different there. It is good that we now know that Darroch is unwelcome with Trump. Maybe Darroch was also unwelcome to Obama, but Obama never told us - we just got overlooked...

I don't know why you'd think that Trump knows who the current UK ambassador to the US, let alone has an opinion about him.

Has the British Ambassador not made himself known to the Presdent elect or previously to the Republican presidential candidate?

If not, the Ambassador should be sacked.

Trump is currently dealing a blizzard of problems and exciting grift opportunities. The idea that he's spending brain cycles on ambassadors of medium-sized countries is ridiculous.

We have a europhile Ambassador whom Farage does not like. Farage poisons the well and Darroch had not created strong links in the months beforehand. So Darroch is toast. We now have an opportunity for a Trade focused Ambassador to the USA, something which Darroch has no record in undertaking.

By "Trade focused" do you mean is interested in cooking up real estate deals with Trump? Most of Scotland will be a golf course by the end of the first term.

He doesn't want to talk to the monkey he wants to talk to the people that can get his real estate deals through. Like the president of Argentina and the Prime Minister of Japan.

FF43 said:

rottenborough said:

TCPoliticalBetting said:

edmundintokyo said:

David_Evershed said:

edmundintokyo said:

TCPoliticalBetting said:

Trump is a chump on this matter but he has given us an advantage. He wants someone different there. It is good that we now know that Darroch is unwelcome with Trump. Maybe Darroch was also unwelcome to Obama, but Obama never told us - we just got overlooked...

I don't know why you'd think that Trump knows who the current UK ambassador to the US, let alone has an opinion about him.

Has the British Ambassador not made himself known to the Presdent elect or previously to the Republican presidential candidate?

If not, the Ambassador should be sacked.

Trump is currently dealing a blizzard of problems and exciting grift opportunities. The idea that he's spending brain cycles on ambassadors of medium-sized countries is ridiculous.

We have a europhile Ambassador whom Farage does not like. Farage poisons the well and Darroch had not created strong links in the months beforehand. So Darroch is toast. We now have an opportunity for a Trade focused Ambassador to the USA, something which Darroch has no record in undertaking.

By "Trade focused" do you mean is interested in cooking up real estate deals with Trump? Most of Scotland will be a golf course by the end of the first term.

He doesn't want to talk to the monkey he wants to talk to the people that can get his real estate deals through. Like the president of Argentina and the Prime Minister of Japan.

A mans got to make a living :-)

timmo said:

In more scary news what will the West do about this?
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/russia-to-move-nuclear-capable-missiles-closer-to-europe-as-vladimir-putin-claims-nato-expansion-is-threat/ar-AAkAZTM?li=AAdeCd7&ocid=spartanntp

Putin ratchets up pressure on the Baltic states -- and by coincidence just after the Americans have elected a man who has openly doubted whether NATO or America should help those countries. All part of Trump's masterplan for something or other.

rottenborough said:

TCPoliticalBetting said:

edmundintokyo said:

David_Evershed said:

edmundintokyo said:

TCPoliticalBetting said:

Trump is a chump on this matter but he has given us an advantage. He wants someone different there. It is good that we now know that Darroch is unwelcome with Trump. Maybe Darroch was also unwelcome to Obama, but Obama never told us - we just got overlooked...

I don't know why you'd think that Trump knows who the current UK ambassador to the US, let alone has an opinion about him.

Has the British Ambassador not made himself known to the Presdent elect or previously to the Republican presidential candidate?

If not, the Ambassador should be sacked.

Trump is currently dealing a blizzard of problems and exciting grift opportunities. The idea that he's spending brain cycles on ambassadors of medium-sized countries is ridiculous.

We have a europhile Ambassador whom Farage does not like. Farage poisons the well and Darroch had not created strong links in the months beforehand. So Darroch is toast. We now have an opportunity for a Trade focused Ambassador to the USA, something which Darroch has no record in undertaking.

By "Trade focused" do you mean is interested in cooking up real estate deals with Trump? Most of Scotland will be a golf course by the end of the first term.

Hmmm. Highland Clearances, Redux? Not sure golf courses are necessarily worse than sheep farms...

rottenborough said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

https://twitter.com/whydontyoutube/status/801001025557643264

I remember it like yesterday. I was with a group of other software guys in a small company. We got a phone call from someone's wife to say it had just been on telly (no Web then).

After jumping around the office for a bit we went to the pub.

Glorious!

Three days before my first boy was born.

I made a fair bit of money out of it. Invested in 150 Evening Standards and picture frames. Put the front cover in the frame and sold each one for - I think - £5 outside Camden Town tube station. They all went in a day and it paid for us to get back to Spain, where we were living at the time.

TheScreamingEagles said:

https://twitter.com/katyballs/status/801024519687307264

I’s would hazard a guess and say, the American Tax authorities believe otherwise.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/independent-zac-goldsmith-on-the-richmond-by-election-heathrow-and-brexit-a7429266.html

Interesting article. in todays Independen.Is Zac gettinga bit jumpy re Brexit?

SouthamObserver said:

rottenborough said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

https://twitter.com/whydontyoutube/status/801001025557643264

I remember it like yesterday. I was with a group of other software guys in a small company. We got a phone call from someone's wife to say it had just been on telly (no Web then).

After jumping around the office for a bit we went to the pub.

Glorious!

Three days before my first boy was born.

I made a fair bit of money out of it. Invested in 150 Evening Standards and picture frames. Put the front cover in the frame and sold each one for - I think - £5 outside Camden Town tube station. They all went in a day and it paid for us to get back to Spain, where we were living at the time.

Margaret Thatcher would have been proud of your enterprise.

logical_song said:

Animal_pb said:

rottenborough said:

TCPoliticalBetting said:

edmundintokyo said:

David_Evershed said:

edmundintokyo said:

TCPoliticalBetting said:

Trump is a chump on this matter but he has given us an advantage. He wants someone different there. It is good that we now know that Darroch is unwelcome with Trump. Maybe Darroch was also unwelcome to Obama, but Obama never told us - we just got overlooked...

I don't know why you'd think that Trump knows who the current UK ambassador to the US, let alone has an opinion about him.

Has the British Ambassador not made himself known to the Presdent elect or previously to the Republican presidential candidate?

If not, the Ambassador should be sacked.

Trump is currently dealing a blizzard of problems and exciting grift opportunities. The idea that he's spending brain cycles on ambassadors of medium-sized countries is ridiculous.

We have a europhile Ambassador whom Farage does not like. Farage poisons the well and Darroch had not created strong links in the months beforehand. So Darroch is toast. We now have an opportunity for a Trade focused Ambassador to the USA, something which Darroch has no record in undertaking.

By "Trade focused" do you mean is interested in cooking up real estate deals with Trump? Most of Scotland will be a golf course by the end of the first term.

Hmmm. Highland Clearances, Redux? Not sure golf courses are necessarily worse than sheep farms...

http://www.bbcamerica.com/anglophenia/2012/12/anti-trump-farmer-michael-forbes-wins-scotsman-of-the-year-award

Yep. Not much has changed in 200 years.

SouthamObserver said:

rottenborough said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

https://twitter.com/whydontyoutube/status/801001025557643264

I remember it like yesterday. I was with a group of other software guys in a small company. We got a phone call from someone's wife to say it had just been on telly (no Web then).

After jumping around the office for a bit we went to the pub.

Glorious!

Three days before my first boy was born.

I made a fair bit of money out of it. Invested in 150 Evening Standards and picture frames. Put the front cover in the frame and sold each one for - I think - £5 outside Camden Town tube station. They all went in a day and it paid for us to get back to Spain, where we were living at the time.

Genius.