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I am the PB.com elite, because I am the only person with the root password for the server.David_Evershed said:Who are the PoliticalBetting.Com elite?
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It was when I saw it about two days before Private Eye nicked it off the Internet...!JosiasJessop said:
The latest Private Eye cover's funny. Although only if you're not a Trumper ...619 said:
OH MY GOD. SHOT THE MSM DOWN. MAKE AMERICA GROPE AGAINPlatoSaid said:Oh my word
In a December 2015 email to Podesta, Harwood bragged about his much-criticized debate performance in which he asked Trump “Let’s be honest, is this a comic book version of a presidential campaign?”
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/11/nytcnbcs-john-harwood-advises-clinton-campaign-gloats-about-provoking-trump-at-debate/#ixzz4MrkTDmsd0 -
I'm sure this will be spun as good news for Trump by some
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They'll be part of a balanced sample but there'll be no Glenn Beck.JackW said:
Fox News viewers with dangerous liberals like Hannity and O'Reilly filtered out ?edmundintokyo said:Trumpist Twitter is amazing.
Not only do they not believe the regular polling, they're commissioning their own *exit* poll. With a special methodology...0 -
The one pictured in your avatar, right?rcs1000 said:
I am the PB.com elite, because I am the only person with the root password for the server.David_Evershed said:Who are the PoliticalBetting.Com elite?
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Does it include all those who write the lead articles?
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Explains much. I was wondering if somebody had hacked TSE for a laff....rcs1000 said:
I am the PB.com elite, because I am the only person with the root password for the server.David_Evershed said:Who are the PoliticalBetting.Com elite?
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Anonymous have laid into Clinton this morning with a video that outlines here misdemeanours, and I was actually surprised at the number of times that she has been caught and punished - stuff that's apparently on the record. Now I haven't checked each one back to a primary source because I haven't had the time, but seriously - even if 10% of it is on the button she's be dead in the water in the UK. Nobody would let her near a whelk stall.JosiasJessop said:
The latest Private Eye cover's funny. Although only if you're not a Trumper ...619 said:
OH MY GOD. SHOT THE MSM DOWN. MAKE AMERICA GROPE AGAINPlatoSaid said:Oh my word
In a December 2015 email to Podesta, Harwood bragged about his much-criticized debate performance in which he asked Trump “Let’s be honest, is this a comic book version of a presidential campaign?”
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/11/nytcnbcs-john-harwood-advises-clinton-campaign-gloats-about-provoking-trump-at-debate/#ixzz4MrkTDmsd0 -
I've been replaying ParisFrancisUrquhart said:Totally O/T....been mentioned on here about how good a game Hitman is (despite very poor sales, stupid business model). Latest episode is the best so far.
It is staggering how well the various elements work together when you know what you're doing.
My current plan is to put a proximity mine in a corridor, and then attempt to time a target lockdown so that the two targets are in the same place at the same time... thus blowing themselves to bits a long way away from where I'm going to be.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrREy0zRWzM0 -
The donors clearly haven't read the Rules of Acquisition. The first rule - once you have their money, you never give it back.TheScreamingEagles said:I'm sure this will be spun as good news for Trump by some
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See Ladbrokes have changed Witney odds again, Cons now 1/20 from 1/40 a week ago, Lib Dems 8-1 from 12-1 a week ago. The by election has a smell about it, could be closer than most think.0
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Nope, its because no one is fooled by the fake working class bit....TheScreamingEagles said:
It's because I'm a working class northerner isn't it?GeoffM said:
TSE will be first against the wall when the revolution comesDavid_Evershed said:Who are the PoliticalBetting.Com elite?
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Does it include all those who write the lead articles?
Will the PB elite be overturned when the anti globalisation revolution comes?
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Why then did France continue to allow such immigration into the country? The killer in Nice, for instance, was an unskilled labourer from North Africa who was allowed to move to France in 2003. Why? What possible benefit was it to France to allow an unskilled labourer to move there? Were there really no unskilled labourers available anywhere in the EU - in the fabled Single Market with its even more precious Free Movement - available to do whatever it was that this individual would do? Did no-one think - even in 2003 - that there might be issues with allowing immigration from a part of the world where terrorism and vicious civil war and anti-Western ideologies are not unknown?FrancisUrquhart said:Bloody racists....
France 'has a problem with Islam' and warned France's national symbol will one day be a woman in a burka.
Ethnic minority football stars as 'guys from the estates, without references, without values, who leave France too early', it emerged today.
SaidLe PenPresident Hollande
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3834003/President-Hollande-admitted-France-problem-Islam-warned-country-s-national-symbol-one-day-woman-burka.html
It is the failure of the authorities in the West to apply any sort of judgment to whom they let into the country which has allowed, in part, the spread of some very undesirable developments within our countries, developments that we are now finding very hard to handle.
And that failure to apply any sort of judgment, to view immigration as some sort of right, to place the entitlement of the would-be immigrant above any other consideration, a sort of immigration "I want therefore I must have" - as evidenced the response by sentimental idiots like Lily Allen to the Calais Jungle - is still continuing.
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OMG what happens if you perish in a freak wingsuiting accident? Does PB die with you?rcs1000 said:
I am the PB.com elite, because I am the only person with the root password for the server.David_Evershed said:Who are the PoliticalBetting.Com elite?
Apart from Mike Smithson, who else qualifies?
Does it include all those who write the lead articles?
Will the PB elite be overturned when the anti globalisation revolution comes?
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@Cyclefree, we're just as bad. There's no shortage of unskilled non-EU workers coming to the UK every year,Cyclefree said:
Why then did France continue to allow such immigration into the country? The killer in Nice, for instance, was an unskilled labourer from North Africa who was allowed to move to France in 2003. Why? What possible benefit was it to France to allow an unskilled labourer to move there? Were there really no unskilled labourers available anywhere in the EU - in the fabled Single Market with its even more precious Free Movement - available to do whatever it was that this individual would do? Did no-one think - even in 2003 - that there might be issues with allowing immigration from a part of the world where terrorism and vicious civil war and anti-Western ideologies are not unknown?FrancisUrquhart said:Bloody racists....
France 'has a problem with Islam' and warned France's national symbol will one day be a woman in a burka.
Ethnic minority football stars as 'guys from the estates, without references, without values, who leave France too early', it emerged today.
SaidLe PenPresident Hollande
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3834003/President-Hollande-admitted-France-problem-Islam-warned-country-s-national-symbol-one-day-woman-burka.html
It is the failure of the authorities in the West to apply any sort of judgment to whom they let into the country which has allowed, in part, the spread of some very undesirable developments within our countries, developments that we are now finding very hard to handle.
And that failure to apply any sort of judgment, to view immigration as some sort of right, to place the entitlement of the would-be immigrant above any other consideration, a sort of immigration "I want therefore I must have" - as evidenced the response by sentimental idiots like Lily Allen to the Calais Jungle - is still continuing.0 -
Seems Trump has been outed as a CINO (Christian In Name Only) by the evangelicals.
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I thought Trump claimed not to be relying on donors but paying for his campaign himself?RobD said:
The donors clearly haven't read the Rules of Acquisition. The first rule - once you have their money, you never give it back.TheScreamingEagles said:I'm sure this will be spun as good news for Trump by some
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Telegraph:
Christianity Today, a leading evangelical magazine, said in an editorial that Christians should not support a man whose life is based around “idolatry, greed, and sexual immorality”.0 -
At least not relying on them to the same extent Clinton is.IanB2 said:
I thought Trump claimed not to be relying on donors but paying for his campaign himself?RobD said:
The donors clearly haven't read the Rules of Acquisition. The first rule - once you have their money, you never give it back.TheScreamingEagles said:I'm sure this will be spun as good news for Trump by some
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Blimey .... they're really laying into TSE !! ..rottenborough said:Telegraph:
Christianity Today, a leading evangelical magazine, said in an editorial that Christians should not support a man whose life is based around “idolatry, greed, and sexual immorality”.
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Presume they mean self-idolatry, if there is such a thing.JackW said:
Blimey .... they're really laying into TSE !! ..rottenborough said:Telegraph:
Christianity Today, a leading evangelical magazine, said in an editorial that Christians should not support a man whose life is based around “idolatry, greed, and sexual immorality”.0 -
Why only Christians?rottenborough said:Telegraph:
Christianity Today, a leading evangelical magazine, said in an editorial that Christians should not support a man whose life is based around “idolatry, greed, and sexual immorality”.0 -
Non-US Trumpers who avidly follow Breitbart still going strong.rottenborough said:Seems Trump has been outed as a CINO (Christian In Name Only) by the evangelicals.
Is there a demographic left?
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"But his following remain enthusiastic and fired up and you can see a post-November 8th scenario when the party leadership is seen as having betrayed the legitimately elected nominee.
For the Republicans the worry is the impact Trump will have on the other elections particularly the fiercely contested battle for it to retain control of the Senate."
I'd agree with both points. Trump will almost certainly lose now unless something truly scandalous comes out about Hillary, which seems unlikely. His base won't, however, blame him; it'll all be down to betrayal from those on the Hill and the RNC.
But Trump will get his revenge if he drags down the turnout from GOP voters, impacting the senate, House and gubernatorial races.0 -
Red necks.rottenborough said:Seems Trump has been outed as a CINO (Christian In Name Only) by the evangelicals.
Is there a demographic left?
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Apparently they are planning to have two more seasons.rcs1000 said:
I've been replaying ParisFrancisUrquhart said:Totally O/T....been mentioned on here about how good a game Hitman is (despite very poor sales, stupid business model). Latest episode is the best so far.
It is staggering how well the various elements work together when you know what you're doing.
My current plan is to put a proximity mine in a corridor, and then attempt to time a target lockdown so that the two targets are in the same place at the same time... thus blowing themselves to bits a long way away from where I'm going to be.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrREy0zRWzM
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Trump still has the African American vote sown up.rottenborough said:Seems Trump has been outed as a CINO (Christian In Name Only) by the evangelicals.
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I know. Why? Perhaps our new PM could answer this question. She ought to know something about the topic after all.rcs1000 said:
@Cyclefree, we're just as bad. There's no shortage of unskilled non-EU workers coming to the UK every year,Cyclefree said:
Why then did France continue to allow such immigration into the country? The killer in Nice, for instance, was an unskilled labourer from North Africa who was allowed to move to France in 2003. Why? What possible benefit was it to France to allow an unskilled labourer to move there? Were there really no unskilled labourers available anywhere in the EU - in the fabled Single Market with its even more precious Free Movement - available to do whatever it was that this individual would do? Did no-one think - even in 2003 - that there might be issues with allowing immigration from a part of the world where terrorism and vicious civil war and anti-Western ideologies are not unknown?FrancisUrquhart said:Bloody racists....
France 'has a problem with Islam' and warned France's national symbol will one day be a woman in a burka.
Ethnic minority football stars as 'guys from the estates, without references, without values, who leave France too early', it emerged today.
SaidLe PenPresident Hollande
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3834003/President-Hollande-admitted-France-problem-Islam-warned-country-s-national-symbol-one-day-woman-burka.html
It is the failure of the authorities in the West to apply any sort of judgment to whom they let into the country which has allowed, in part, the spread of some very undesirable developments within our countries, developments that we are now finding very hard to handle.
And that failure to apply any sort of judgment, to view immigration as some sort of right, to place the entitlement of the would-be immigrant above any other consideration, a sort of immigration "I want therefore I must have" - as evidenced the response by sentimental idiots like Lily Allen to the Calais Jungle - is still continuing.
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The Dr Ben Carson.TheScreamingEagles said:
Trump still has the African American sown up.rottenborough said:Seems Trump has been outed as a CINO (Christian In Name Only) by the evangelicals.
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YouGov London poll
Sadiq Khan given poll boost to strengthen position as future Labour leader
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/mayor/sadiq-khan-given-poll-boost-to-strengthen-position-as-future-labour-leader-a3367201.html0 -
Corbyn is really effing useless; starts the whole session on a bum note.0
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Oops. Corrected it now.JackW said:
The Dr Ben Carson.TheScreamingEagles said:
Trump still has the African American sown up.rottenborough said:Seems Trump has been outed as a CINO (Christian In Name Only) by the evangelicals.
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Actually, maybe notJackW said:
The Dr Ben Carson.TheScreamingEagles said:
Trump still has the African American sown up.rottenborough said:Seems Trump has been outed as a CINO (Christian In Name Only) by the evangelicals.
Is there a demographic left?
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/300410-carson-defends-ryan-from-trumps-attacks0 -
Family visa, wife is reported as "French-Tunisian", so I guess she was a French national?Cyclefree said:
Why then did France continue to allow such immigration into the country? The killer in Nice, for instance, was an unskilled labourer from North Africa who was allowed to move to France in 2003. Why?
Apparently he wasn't religious and drank like a proper French person, so it's not obvious that immigration should have been able to guess that he'd go religious-homicidal-bonkers 10 years later.0 -
Jez has done his homework0
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What is your definition of unskilled ? Is a foreign agricultural worker who can pick fruit 5 times as quickly as a UK person skilled or unskilled ?Cyclefree said:
I know. Why? Perhaps our new PM could answer this question. She ought to know something about the topic after all.rcs1000 said:
@Cyclefree, we're just as bad. There's no shortage of unskilled non-EU workers coming to the UK every year,Cyclefree said:
Why then did France continue to allow such immigration into the country? The killer in Nice, for instance, was an unskilled labourer from North Africa who was allowed to move to France in 2003. Why? What possible benefit was it to France to allow an unskilled labourer to move there? Were there really no unskilled labourers available anywhere in the EU - in the fabled Single Market with its even more precious Free Movement - available to do whatever it was that this individual would do? Did no-one think - even in 2003 - that there might be issues with allowing immigration from a part of the world where terrorism and vicious civil war and anti-Western ideologies are not unknown?FrancisUrquhart said:Bloody racists....
France 'has a problem with Islam' and warned France's national symbol will one day be a woman in a burka.
Ethnic minority football stars as 'guys from the estates, without references, without values, who leave France too early', it emerged today.
SaidLe PenPresident Hollande
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3834003/President-Hollande-admitted-France-problem-Islam-warned-country-s-national-symbol-one-day-woman-burka.html
It is the failure of the authorities in the West to apply any sort of judgment to whom they let into the country which has allowed, in part, the spread of some very undesirable developments within our countries, developments that we are now finding very hard to handle.
And that failure to apply any sort of judgment, to view immigration as some sort of right, to place the entitlement of the would-be immigrant above any other consideration, a sort of immigration "I want therefore I must have" - as evidenced the response by sentimental idiots like Lily Allen to the Calais Jungle - is still continuing.0 -
Sod future Labour leader. I backed him to be *next* Labour leader.TheScreamingEagles said:YouGov London poll
Sadiq Khan given poll boost to strengthen position as future Labour leader
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/mayor/sadiq-khan-given-poll-boost-to-strengthen-position-as-future-labour-leader-a3367201.html0 -
So did I.DecrepitJohnL said:
Sod future Labour leader. I backed him to be *next* Labour leader.TheScreamingEagles said:YouGov London poll
Sadiq Khan given poll boost to strengthen position as future Labour leader
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/mayor/sadiq-khan-given-poll-boost-to-strengthen-position-as-future-labour-leader-a3367201.html0 -
McBride vs Milne?TheScreamingEagles said:Jez has done his homework
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Yup. Had a very good quote from our unelected PM about the disaster of leaving the single marketCarlottaVance said:
McBride vs Milne?TheScreamingEagles said:Jez has done his homework
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Now that was a rimshot from Mrs May.0
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nice,scripted final cooment from May0
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Excellent response by May to the final Corbyn question. In response to the Shadow Foreign Secretary shouting for a second Referendum, she said "I thought Labour MPs would have learnt the lesson - you can ask the question as often as you like, it won't stop them keep getting the answer they don't want..."0
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New Baldwin Wallace U. poll of Ohio, all taken post debate:
Clinton 43
Trump 34
https://t.co/TpgrW3NDwO
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Not bad pre-cooked joke from May on Labour wanting a second vote - 'I'd have thought Labour members would have learned that you can have a second vote and still get a result you don't want'.....0
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What did she say?TheScreamingEagles said:Now that was a rimshot from Mrs May.
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Beat me to it, very droll.CarlottaVance said:Not bad pre-cooked joke from May on Labour wanting a second vote - 'I'd have thought Labour members would have learned that you can have a second vote and still get a result you don't want'.....
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She mentioned Emily Thornberry wanting a second referendum and then saidMaxPB said:
What did she say?TheScreamingEagles said:Now that was a rimshot from Mrs May.
I would have thought labour MPs had learnt you can ask the same question again but you'll still get the answer you don't want0 -
May taking no shit from the SNP either....0
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Wow - Theresa just shot down the leader of SNP0
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That's not bad.TheScreamingEagles said:
She mentioned Emily Thornberry wanting a second referendum and then saidMaxPB said:
What did she say?TheScreamingEagles said:Now that was a rimshot from Mrs May.
I would have thought labour MPs had learnt you can ask the same question again but you'll still get the answer you don't want0 -
Robertson nicely squished.MarqueeMark said:May taking no shit from the SNP either....
Both May & Corbyn have raised their games....I suspect we've heard the last of 'Lisa from Lowestoft' from Corbyn.....0 -
That's not really the point. What benefit to France was it to have an unskilled labourer immigrate into the country? What skills did he bring that could not be found within the country or within the EU itself?edmundintokyo said:
Family visa, wife is reported as "French-Tunisian", so I guess she was a French national?Cyclefree said:
Why then did France continue to allow such immigration into the country? The killer in Nice, for instance, was an unskilled labourer from North Africa who was allowed to move to France in 2003. Why?
Apparently he wasn't religious and drank like a proper French person, so it's not obvious that immigration should have been able to guess that he'd go religious-homicidal-bonkers 10 years later.
Now of course you're right that we can't guess that someone from Tunisia might turn into a religious homicidal maniac a decade later. But we do know that the risk of this happening is higher than it might be for other groups of immigrants. So we should be applying some judgment to the question of who are the most desirable immigrants from the country's point of view. And desirable needs to take into account not just the economic value of the migrant - the skills he/she brings and so forth - but their ability/willingness to integrate, the risks that they may pose to social cohesion and so forth.
So let's take this individual: an unemployed labourer with no special skills, no skills at all frankly, that could not have been found from amongst the population of the EU. Just on that basis alone he should have been told no. Not only did he have nothing very much to recommend him but he came from a part of the world where religious extremism and its ability to radicalize people such as him has been evident for some time. That too should have pushed the decision to a "no". France allowed in someone who bought nothing special and who had a potential higher risk than others.
This may sound harsh but we really need to start discriminating between those classes of immigrants who are desirable and wanted and add to our societies (and I am generally in favour of this) and those who are not. Not all immigration is of equal value and benefit to our societies.
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Report on Vote2012 website from a Conservative campaigner at Witney " I was there on Saturday , the Lib Dem campaign very visible around Witney itself , 30% plus and a strong 2nd place is very do-able "0
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Well you seem to be admitting you will not win the seatMarkSenior said:Report on Vote2012 website from a Conservative campaigner at Witney " I was there on Saturday , the Lib Dem campaign very visible around Witney itself , 30% plus and a strong 2nd place is very do-able "
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Corbyn has upped his game and followed my advice.CarlottaVance said:
Robertson nicely squished.MarqueeMark said:May taking no shit from the SNP either....
Both May & Corbyn have raised their games....I suspect we've heard the last of 'Lisa from Lowestoft' from Corbyn.....
Still proud of that bumblebee gag, even if it has had some bad consequences
http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2016/09/07/if-corbyn-wants-to-win-the-confidence-of-labour-mps-he-needs-to-improve-his-performance-in-the-commons/0 -
Clinton is crap is President.619 said:New Baldwin Wallace U. poll of Ohio, all taken post debate:
Clinton 43
Trump 34
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I would lay him for that. Despite his obvious talents (and there are those who see him as a classic cynical Labour machine politician) I don't think he is ever going to be the right candidate either for Labour or for PM of Brexitland.TheScreamingEagles said:
So did I.DecrepitJohnL said:
Sod future Labour leader. I backed him to be *next* Labour leader.TheScreamingEagles said:YouGov London poll
Sadiq Khan given poll boost to strengthen position as future Labour leader
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/mayor/sadiq-khan-given-poll-boost-to-strengthen-position-as-future-labour-leader-a3367201.html0 -
Remind me - does he still prioritise the SWP meetings but does not get 'stop the war' to demonstrate outside the Russian EmbassyTheScreamingEagles said:
Corbyn has upped his game and followed my advice.CarlottaVance said:
Robertson nicely squished.MarqueeMark said:May taking no shit from the SNP either....
Both May & Corbyn have raised their games....I suspect we've heard the last of 'Lisa from Lowestoft' from Corbyn.....
Still proud of that bumblebee gag, even if it has had some bad consequences
http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2016/09/07/if-corbyn-wants-to-win-the-confidence-of-labour-mps-he-needs-to-improve-his-performance-in-the-commons/0 -
OGH Tweets:
Good PMQs from Corbyn. TM reasonably good as well.
JC 7/0
TM 6/10
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Wow, PB Tories too hasty in resorting to typing one handed, plus ça change.Big_G_NorthWales said:Wow - Theresa just shot down the leader of SNP
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She had another "I've already answered that question" later in the session too. If she can make that stick MPs will have to start listening to her answers, which can only improve PMQs.CarlottaVance said:
Robertson nicely squished.MarqueeMark said:May taking no shit from the SNP either....
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Both assumed that the policy was what the policy wasn't.Theuniondivvie said:
Wow, PB Tories too hasty in resorting to typing one handed, plus ça change.Big_G_NorthWales said:Wow - Theresa just shot down the leader of SNP
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Andrew Sparrow:
PMQs - Snap Verdict: Corbyn never quite put the ball in the back of the net, but this wasn’t May’s finest moment either, and the Labour leader did quite usefully catalogue some of the weaknesses in the government’s position on Brexit. The very fact that Corbyn focused on Brexit was striking, because since the referendum (and for some time before) he has generally avoided the topic. But, as usual, he asked strong questions but failed to follow them up. (In tennis terms, he has an adequate serve, but no return.) He also failed to press May on the one question that is really topical today; in the light of her U-turn last night on a Brexit debate, can she now commit to giving MPs a vote on a substantive motion? May responded competently, but not brilliantly, to Corbyn’s questions, and interestingly she avoided some of the gratuitous Labour-bashing that has marred some of her earlier PMQs, although she did finish with a neat point about Labour getting the same answer when they ask a question for a second time. (Although this was premised on a claim that Emily Thornberry has called for a second referendum on the EU, which as far as I’m aware she hasn’t.)
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/blog/live/2016/oct/12/pmqs-may-corbyn-brexit-debate-claims-real-victory-after-may-offers-brexit-debate-concession-politics-live0 -
I have never said we would , my initial forecast was 28% which was scoffed at by many on here . It is encouraging that a Conservative activist now thinks that pessimistic .Big_G_NorthWales said:
Well you seem to be admitting you will not win the seatMarkSenior said:Report on Vote2012 website from a Conservative campaigner at Witney " I was there on Saturday , the Lib Dem campaign very visible around Witney itself , 30% plus and a strong 2nd place is very do-able "
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If you're explaining, you're losing....Theuniondivvie said:
Wow, PB Tories too hasty in resorting to typing one handed, plus ça change.Big_G_NorthWales said:Wow - Theresa just shot down the leader of SNP
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Maybe prepared - but like the best gags, it encapsulates an uncomfortable truth.TheScreamingEagles said:
She mentioned Emily Thornberry wanting a second referendum and then saidMaxPB said:
What did she say?TheScreamingEagles said:Now that was a rimshot from Mrs May.
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Like Farage and Johnson admitted not winning the referendum as the polls closedBig_G_NorthWales said:
Well you seem to be admitting you will not win the seatMarkSenior said:Report on Vote2012 website from a Conservative campaigner at Witney " I was there on Saturday , the Lib Dem campaign very visible around Witney itself , 30% plus and a strong 2nd place is very do-able "
More seriously, I don't think anyone thinks a LibDem win is anything other than an extremely remote possibility,
It reminds me of Oldham West, when the UKIP odds kept shortening and shortening, and we heard regular posts about UKIP was doing really well. And we all fell for it.
And then UKIP barely budged on their 2015 result, and Labour actually increased its share.0 -
nunu said:
Clinton is crap is President.619 said:New Baldwin Wallace U. poll of Ohio, all taken post debate:
Clinton 43
Trump 34
https://t.co/TpgrW3NDwO
the polls had clinton winning the debate, and utah and ohio polls post debate had big jumps for her.nunu said:
Clinton is crap is President.619 said:New Baldwin Wallace U. poll of Ohio, all taken post debate:
Clinton 43
Trump 34
https://t.co/TpgrW3NDwO
more polls are needed, but initial signs are that clinton as had a post debate bump of some sort, on top of the pussygate disaster for trump0 -
Now she's squishing the LibDems too!0
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Why is collection of data a problem, when the US collects and publishes data?Theuniondivvie said:
Wow, PB Tories too hasty in resorting to typing one handed, plus ça change.Big_G_NorthWales said:Wow - Theresa just shot down the leader of SNP
https://twitter.com/SamCoatesTimes/status/7861648502715924480 -
Oh dear - Farron making a prat of himself.0
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The DUP MP's are all shaking their heads as Farron asks his rambling question.0
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Cracking photo from the Japanese GP.
Takes you a minute to realise the car is doing what it is designed to do...
https://twitter.com/_markgallagher/status/785921178103865344/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc^tfw0 -
Good try MarkMarkSenior said:
I have never said we would , my initial forecast was 28% which was scoffed at by many on here . It is encouraging that a Conservative activist now thinks that pessimistic .Big_G_NorthWales said:
Well you seem to be admitting you will not win the seatMarkSenior said:Report on Vote2012 website from a Conservative campaigner at Witney " I was there on Saturday , the Lib Dem campaign very visible around Witney itself , 30% plus and a strong 2nd place is very do-able "
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I'd say that counts as a voodoo poll (one respondent, unweighted)CarlottaVance said:OGH Tweets:
Good PMQs from Corbyn. TM reasonably good as well.
JC 7/0
TM 6/100 -
She's got the strict headmistress act down to a tee. And it works.MarqueeMark said:Now she's squishing the LibDems too!
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I think a better comparison is with Ribble Valley in March 1991 although there the Conservatives made the fatal mistake of giving the Lib Dems a 4 months long campaign .rcs1000 said:
Like Farage and Johnson admitted not winning the referendum as the polls closedBig_G_NorthWales said:
Well you seem to be admitting you will not win the seatMarkSenior said:Report on Vote2012 website from a Conservative campaigner at Witney " I was there on Saturday , the Lib Dem campaign very visible around Witney itself , 30% plus and a strong 2nd place is very do-able "
More seriously, I don't think anyone thinks a LibDem win is anything other than an extremely remote possibility,
It reminds me of Oldham West, when the UKIP odds kept shortening and shortening, and we heard regular posts about UKIP was doing really well. And we all fell for it.
And then UKIP barely budged on their 2015 result, and Labour actually increased its share.0 -
Is she going to do the New Bastards as well?MarqueeMark said:Now she's squishing the LibDems too!
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He has become just ridiculousTonyE said:Oh dear - Farron making a prat of himself.
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I think it's great when all those loser journos (particularly the ones that have no love of 'the Nats') do the explaining for me.MarqueeMark said:
If you're explaining, you're losing....Theuniondivvie said:
Wow, PB Tories too hasty in resorting to typing one handed, plus ça change.Big_G_NorthWales said:Wow - Theresa just shot down the leader of SNP
https://twitter.com/SamCoatesTimes/status/786164850271592448
https://twitter.com/Kevin_Maguire/status/786164532456464384
https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/7861643267092889600 -
That would imply something like Con 50 / LD 30 / Lab 10 / UKIP 5 / loose change.MarkSenior said:Report on Vote2012 website from a Conservative campaigner at Witney " I was there on Saturday , the Lib Dem campaign very visible around Witney itself , 30% plus and a strong 2nd place is very do-able "
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She's still a bit stuttering and spluttering, and too many "ers.....", but she is settling into the role for sure.nunu said:
She's got the strict headmistress act down to a tee. And it works.MarqueeMark said:Now she's squishing the LibDems too!
To be fair, Corbyn seems to be getting better too, at least at the presentation if not the content.0 -
Faisal Islam barely diguises his anti government rhetoric these daysTheuniondivvie said:
I think it's great when all those 'loser' journos (particularly the ones that have no love of 'the Nats') do the explaining for me.MarqueeMark said:
If you're explaining, you're losing....Theuniondivvie said:
Wow, PB Tories too hasty in resorting to typing one handed, plus ça change.Big_G_NorthWales said:Wow - Theresa just shot down the leader of SNP
https://twitter.com/SamCoatesTimes/status/786164850271592448
https://twitter.com/Kevin_Maguire/status/786164532456464384
https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/7861643267092889600 -
Doesn't he do that most days?TonyE said:Oh dear - Farron making a prat of himself.
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Also non-representative......GeoffM said:
I'd say that counts as a voodoo poll (one respondent, unweighted)CarlottaVance said:OGH Tweets:
Good PMQs from Corbyn. TM reasonably good as well.
JC 7/0
TM 6/10
If OGH rates as it as 7:6 for Corbyn I'd say 'score draw' was pretty fair.
Sparrow raises an important point - Corbyn doesn't follow through and is only as good as his script (which has got a lot better) - but if both are going to raise their game that's good for the country....
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I guess the take away from that is that with the right puppeteers, Corbyn can ask good first questions but has neither the intellect or ability to effectively respond when left to his own devices.CarlottaVance said:Andrew Sparrow:
PMQs - Snap Verdict: Corbyn never quite put the ball in the back of the net, but this wasn’t May’s finest moment either, and the Labour leader did quite usefully catalogue some of the weaknesses in the government’s position on Brexit. The very fact that Corbyn focused on Brexit was striking, because since the referendum (and for some time before) he has generally avoided the topic. But, as usual, he asked strong questions but failed to follow them up. (In tennis terms, he has an adequate serve, but no return.) He also failed to press May on the one question that is really topical today; in the light of her U-turn last night on a Brexit debate, can she now commit to giving MPs a vote on a substantive motion? May responded competently, but not brilliantly, to Corbyn’s questions, and interestingly she avoided some of the gratuitous Labour-bashing that has marred some of her earlier PMQs, although she did finish with a neat point about Labour getting the same answer when they ask a question for a second time. (Although this was premised on a claim that Emily Thornberry has called for a second referendum on the EU, which as far as I’m aware she hasn’t.)
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/blog/live/2016/oct/12/pmqs-may-corbyn-brexit-debate-claims-real-victory-after-may-offers-brexit-debate-concession-politics-live0 -
Still losing.Theuniondivvie said:
I think it's great when all those loser journos (particularly the ones that have no love of 'the Nats') do the explaining for me.MarqueeMark said:
If you're explaining, you're losing....Theuniondivvie said:
Wow, PB Tories too hasty in resorting to typing one handed, plus ça change.Big_G_NorthWales said:Wow - Theresa just shot down the leader of SNP
https://twitter.com/SamCoatesTimes/status/786164850271592448
https://twitter.com/Kevin_Maguire/status/786164532456464384
https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/786164326709288960
Get used to it. It's the way the SNP is going...0 -
LOL, you mean avoiding answering eth question , you Tories live in a dream worldMarqueeMark said:May taking no shit from the SNP either....
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I don't think that stuttering will go, some people are just more nervous than others but you can be over confident like Cameron.MarqueeMark said:
She's still a bit stuttering and spluttering, and too many "ers.....", but she is settling into the role of sure.nunu said:
She's got the strict headmistress act down to a tee. And it works.MarqueeMark said:Now she's squishing the LibDems too!
To be fair, Corbyn seems to be getting better too, at least at the presentation if not the content.0 -
Just avoided answering as ever.CarlottaVance said:
Robertson nicely squished.MarqueeMark said:May taking no shit from the SNP either....
Both May & Corbyn have raised their games....I suspect we've heard the last of 'Lisa from Lowestoft' from Corbyn.....0 -
No one knows anything and volumes of activists and posters prove nothing.rcs1000 said:
Like Farage and Johnson admitted not winning the referendum as the polls closedBig_G_NorthWales said:
Well you seem to be admitting you will not win the seatMarkSenior said:Report on Vote2012 website from a Conservative campaigner at Witney " I was there on Saturday , the Lib Dem campaign very visible around Witney itself , 30% plus and a strong 2nd place is very do-able "
More seriously, I don't think anyone thinks a LibDem win is anything other than an extremely remote possibility,
It reminds me of Oldham West, when the UKIP odds kept shortening and shortening, and we heard regular posts about UKIP was doing really well. And we all fell for it.
And then UKIP barely budged on their 2015 result, and Labour actually increased its share.0 -
I've always held that the views of southern Tories with no Scottish votes, no influence and minimal clues should be of vital importance. Unfortunately most of my countrymen are of a different opinion.MarqueeMark said:
Still losing.Theuniondivvie said:
I think it's great when all those loser journos (particularly the ones that have no love of 'the Nats') do the explaining for me.MarqueeMark said:
If you're explaining, you're losing....Theuniondivvie said:
Wow, PB Tories too hasty in resorting to typing one handed, plus ça change.Big_G_NorthWales said:Wow - Theresa just shot down the leader of SNP
https://twitter.com/SamCoatesTimes/status/786164850271592448
https://twitter.com/Kevin_Maguire/status/786164532456464384
https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/786164326709288960
Get used to it. It's the way the SNP is going...0 -
Not quite true. The party machines should have an indication by how on how postal voting is going. Clearly it is illegal for that information to be passed on.Casino_Royale said:
No one knows anything and volumes of activists and posters prove nothing.rcs1000 said:
Like Farage and Johnson admitted not winning the referendum as the polls closedBig_G_NorthWales said:
Well you seem to be admitting you will not win the seatMarkSenior said:Report on Vote2012 website from a Conservative campaigner at Witney " I was there on Saturday , the Lib Dem campaign very visible around Witney itself , 30% plus and a strong 2nd place is very do-able "
More seriously, I don't think anyone thinks a LibDem win is anything other than an extremely remote possibility,
It reminds me of Oldham West, when the UKIP odds kept shortening and shortening, and we heard regular posts about UKIP was doing really well. And we all fell for it.
And then UKIP barely budged on their 2015 result, and Labour actually increased its share.
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