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    GeoffMGeoffM Posts: 6,071
    edited September 2013
    First! Hmm, okay so we can see what's going on in the cartoon but ..why, when the economy is picking up?
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    dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,291
    HSTwooooooooo
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    JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    Excellent Marf - Ed and shadow cabinet doing the decent thing !!
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    sorry marf..not at all funny..and it wouldn't be even if you changed the name to Alastair, EdB, Brown.. et al..
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    RobDRobD Posts: 59,021
    tim's just jealous because he wanted to be an estate agent ;-)
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    Is that supposed to be Vince Cable leading the Lib Dems into Conference this weekend ?
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    tim said:

    Lemmings indeed

    @Simon_Nixon: Fathom Consulting: The number of UK real estate jobs is now at a record high – 100,000 more than at 2008 peak. #bubblewatch

    I'd be shocked if that number wasn't completely made up.
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    Nice cartoon, Marf! Though I suppose it could apply to all of the main parties :)

    FPT
    I wonder if I've been counted as 'claiming benefit' even though I haven't been eligible since my Income-based JSA ran out nearly two years ago.

    On a more positive note, I have two interviews within the next week, and will have had three in the last seven weeks - after eleven months on the trot without any.
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    RichardNabaviRichardNabavi Posts: 3,413
    edited September 2013
    @tim - That category of Real Estate jobs includes lettings agents and agents managing rented property, university accomodation (I think) and social housing. I suspect a lot of the increase comes from those sectors.
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    Rob.D....Instead of being an Estate Owner..
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    Dr. Prasannan, that's good news. Best of luck to you.
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    Nice cartoon, Marf! Though I suppose it could apply to all of the main parties :

    On a more positive note, I have two interviews within the next week, and will have had three in the last seven weeks - after eleven months on the trot without any.

    Sincerest best wishes Sunil, - good luck next week.
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    RogerRoger Posts: 18,916
    Obama and to a slightly lesser extent Cameron have been made to look like amateurs by Russia and Putin.

    As I said a few weeks ago it would be interesting for a poll to ask who the Great British public trust most Obama/Cameron or Putin. I know who I do.
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    Mick_PorkMick_Pork Posts: 6,530
    Very nice marf but obviously wasted on here.

    'You've never had it so good' indeed. ;^ )
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    JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    Good luck Sunil.
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    JohnLilburneJohnLilburne Posts: 6,018
    edited September 2013

    FPT
    I wonder if I've been counted as 'claiming benefit' even though I haven't been eligible since my Income-based JSA ran out nearly two years ago.

    Surely it's your contributions-based JSA that ran out, and yes if you are signing on to get NI credits you will be in at least one set of figures, probably the "claimant count".

    Edited to add... good luck with the job interviews!
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    saddenedsaddened Posts: 2,245

    Nice cartoon, Marf! Though I suppose it could apply to all of the main parties :)

    FPT
    I wonder if I've been counted as 'claiming benefit' even though I haven't been eligible since my Income-based JSA ran out nearly two years ago.

    On a more positive note, I have two interviews within the next week, and will have had three in the last seven weeks - after eleven months on the trot without any.

    Sunil, that's good news. What field are you looking to be recruited into? Is it directly applicable to your doctorate, or are you looking further afield? (Feel free to tell me it's none of my business).

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    AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    FPT @tim

    Jesus, I'm sure the PB Tories knew that two thirds of new jobs would go to foreign nationals under the coalition, but nobody expected this

    @Simon_Nixon: Fathom Consulting: The number of UK real estate jobs is now at a record high – 100,000 more than at 2008 peak. #bubblewatch


    Not Fathom Consulting again, tim!

    This tiny think tank first burst onto the scene in May when they predicted an imminent 20% increase in house prices in response to George's introduction of the Help to Buy scheme.

    I suspect the 100,000 more estate agents than at 2008 peak is as reliable an estimate.

    Still they do know how to self-advertise.

    Just think, with mortgage loans currently running at an annualised rate of 46% of the 2007 peak, perhaps estate agents can be held responsible for the whole of the UK's fall in productivity of 8% since the recession?

    That line might even get Fathom a few more column inches.
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    RogerRoger Posts: 18,916
    edited September 2013
    Obama "The US doesn't do pin pricks".

    The man has lost the plot. Not a time for childish soundbites I'd have thought.

    Good cartoon Marf. Inspired by PB's very own financial guru 'Hunchman'?
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    PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    Quite.

    "...If you already think the Tories are amoral monsters who care only for the rich, you'll cheer Ed Miliband on. But if you're a floating voter, you're less likely to be convinced. Indeed, you may – I'd say probably would – be more turned off by the rather hysterical tone of Labour's accusations, bemused by the disconnect between the cheerful, ruddy-cheeked chap behind the Dispatch Box and the moustache-twirling, top-hatted villain of Ed and his colleagues' imagination.

    As I said, it may well be an effective approach, with banks of data to support it. But all this outraged shoutiness has another significant flaw – it makes the Leader of the Opposition seem even more like a student-union agitator, eternally convinced that his enemies aren't just wrong, but downright evil. And that, as if it needs saying, isn't exactly a quality that people like their prime ministers to display." http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/robertcolvile/100235509/pmqs-is-labour-getting-too-shrill-for-its-own-good/
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    JonathanJonathan Posts: 20,913
    Bad Evening Standard front page for EdM. Sharks sensing blood in the water.
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    GeoffMGeoffM Posts: 6,071
    Best of luck Sunil, I hope all goes well for you.
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    Nice cartoon, Marf! Though I suppose it could apply to all of the main parties :

    On a more positive note, I have two interviews within the next week, and will have had three in the last seven weeks - after eleven months on the trot without any.

    Sincerest best wishes Sunil, - good luck next week.
    Good luck Sunil - hope everything goes well.
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    RobDRobD Posts: 59,021
    On yer bike, Sunil... or a train, whatever gets you to that interview!
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    YorkcityYorkcity Posts: 4,382
    Good luck with the job interview Sunil . I have been made redundant twice in the past.So know difficult it can be.
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,205
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    TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    Don't get the cartoon at all.

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    JonathanDJonathanD Posts: 2,400
    Good luck Sunil.
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    CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 25,242
    Along with other PB'ers, best of luck Sunil!
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    TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    tim said:

    @RichardNabavi.


    Given that construction jobs are flat I think we can safely say that the massive rise in estate agents and sundry trades is a reaction to the tsunami of cheap money being hurled at the property market, a good chunk of it coming with taxpayer subsidies and guarantees, it's madness.

    I find these lefty "job snobs" bizarre - ooh luvvie darling - a service industry job is just so vulgar.....
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    RogerRoger Posts: 18,916
    @HYUFD

    Good article by Max Hastings.

    I paricularly liked this astute summing up of Cameron and Hague in all their self righteous feebleness "While the British boy scouts in Downing Street urged on Washington with arguments about its moral responsibility"


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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,205
    Tim - Earlier thread, it is not only in the UK where the posh boys are in charge, in Australia Abbott's Coalition government will be the most privately educated in Australian history, including Abbott himself.
    http://www.canberratimes.com.au/comment/old-school-ties-dominate-coalition-20130525-2n3nb.html

    Of course, it is not only the right which is privately educated, so was Obama at the most prestigious private school in Hawaii, albeit on a scholarship
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    Thanks for all the best wishes everyone :)
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    TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    tim said:

    TGOHF said:

    Don't get the cartoon at all.


    Lemmings

    "
    Britain now has a record number of estate agents, official figures have revealed, underlining fears that the fledgling economic recovery is based on inflating an unsustainable housing bubble.

    The number of people employed in "real estate activities" increased by 9.9% between March and June (the latest month for which data are available), according to the Office for National Statistics.


    JOB SNOB !
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    AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    edited September 2013
    tim said:

    A nation of lemmings.

    @zabekh: Barclays chief Antony Jenkins sounds alarm over boom in house prices and 'Help to Buy' scheme http://t.co/zYL4LA2NYd

    @Cash4houses: Cable calls for a rethink on Help to Buy: Business secretary Vince Cable has called for a rethink on the gover... http://t.co/csn6H7mxL0

    tim, I think you missed my post on the previous thread on housing bubbles.

    I know. Easy to do. But I am a generous man and will repost it.

    Housing Bubbles

    How to distinguish between a bubble, a bust and a gentle recovery.
    BBA: Bank mortgage lending                
    ------------------------------------------
    Period Amount Increase over
    Outstanding previous period
    £ million %
    ------------------------------------------
    1998 Year 285,023 3.86%
    1999 Year 315,921 10.84% -|
    2000 Year 352,438 11.56% -| This
    2001 Year 381,383 8.21% -| is
    2002 Year 426,863 11.93% -| a
    2003 Year 468,374 9.72% -| bubble
    2004 Year 496,383 5.98% -|
    2005 Year 521,087 4.98%
    2006 Year 542,584 4.13%
    2007 Year 549,290 1.24%
    2008 Year 495,832 -9.73% -|A CRASH
    **
    2011 Year 767,080 1.43% -|
    2012 Year 777,447 1.35% -|
    2013 Jan 777,357 -0.01% -| This
    2013 Feb 776,344 -0.13% -| is
    2013 Mar 780,637 0.55% -| a
    2013 Apr 779,541 -0.14% -| gentle
    2013 May 779,309 -0.03% -| recovery
    2013 Jun 779,542 0.03% -|
    2013 Jul 779,944 0.05% -|

    Note that 2009-2010 figures are distorted by the decision to add back in the 'off-balance sheet' mortgages moved offshore during the first half of the noughties to support covered bond issues. This added approximately £250 bn to amounts outstanding over two years resulting in 25% increases for 2009 and 2010. This means that the pre-crash annual increases are understated by a significant amount. It also means that the underlying fall in mortgage lending between 2008-2010 is obscured.

    Oh Gord! What a fine mess you got us into.
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    RogerRoger Posts: 18,916
    Break a leg Sunil
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,205
    Roger Indeed, Obama never wanted to go in anyway and Hasting's argues both have been humiliated
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    @Avery
    John Redwood seems to be under the impression that government spending is rising rather than falling. Perhaps you should show him one of your screenshots?

    http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2013/08/21/carry-on-spending-2/

    http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2013/09/05/rewriting-the-script-on-austerity-politics/
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    PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    Good luck, Dr Sunil!
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    OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 32,099
    edited September 2013
    I don't give a flying fcuk what my house is worth. I've absolutely no interest in selling it. Anyway, I'd have to find somewhere else to live!
    And leaflets about "cashing in on the value" go straight into the recycling bin.I might not care about leaving my (adult) children a substantial inheitance, but I'm sure as whatever not going to leave them with debts!

    What I want to see is my working neighbours being able to afford food etc, and not having their wages falling behind inflation!

    Oh, and by the way, best of, Sunil!
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    TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    tim said:

    TGOHF said:

    tim said:

    @RichardNabavi.


    Given that construction jobs are flat I think we can safely say that the massive rise in estate agents and sundry trades is a reaction to the tsunami of cheap money being hurled at the property market, a good chunk of it coming with taxpayer subsidies and guarantees, it's madness.

    I find these lefty "job snobs" bizarre - ooh luvvie darling - a service industry job is just so vulgar.....
    You're the bloke who used to claim housebuilding was bad
    Pay attention job snob - I am against the state building houses - socialist dictatorships like East Germany , USSR and Glasgow tried it and it didn't work out that well.

    Let private enterprise flourish - and ignore the metropolitan sneering snobs who don't think that designing, building and selling homes is a worthwhile endeavour.



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    MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053
    Hehe; Good one Marf! Just one thing: I hope Ratty is not cought up in rushing for the abyss.
    By the way where is Ratty? I miss him.
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    currystarcurrystar Posts: 1,171
    Tim, the simple reason that a boom similar to Browns housing price boom will not happen is the difference in the mortgage market. In the early 2000s you could borrow what ever you liked, your income did not matter, self certification was in full effect. The changes bought in by the Govt has stopped this mad lending happening again. Osbornes scheme is just getting rid of the need for huge deposits which will stop the only people being able to buy properties being BTL landlords.
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    Roger said:

    Break a leg Sunil

    Thanks Roger
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    NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 21,379
    All the best, Sunil!
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    OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 32,099
    TGOHF said:

    tim said:

    TGOHF said:

    tim said:

    @RichardNabavi.


    Given that construction jobs are flat I think we can safely say that the massive rise in estate agents and sundry trades is a reaction to the tsunami of cheap money being hurled at the property market, a good chunk of it coming with taxpayer subsidies and guarantees, it's madness.

    I find these lefty "job snobs" bizarre - ooh luvvie darling - a service industry job is just so vulgar.....
    You're the bloke who used to claim housebuilding was bad
    Pay attention job snob - I am against the state building houses - socialist dictatorships like East Germany , USSR and Glasgow tried it and it didn't work out that well.

    Let private enterprise flourish - and ignore the metropolitan sneering snobs who don't think that designing, building and selling homes is a worthwhile endeavour.



    It got the people rehoused after WWII.
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    AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    edited September 2013

    @Avery
    John Redwood seems to be under the impression that government spending is rising rather than falling. Perhaps you should show him one of your screenshots?

    http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2013/08/21/carry-on-spending-2/

    http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2013/09/05/rewriting-the-script-on-austerity-politics/

    anotherDave

    Have to disappear for dinner in a few minutes, so I have only had a chance to skim through Redwood's articles.

    From what I see, I don't see a conflict in the figures I quoted. Spending in nominal terms is has gone up over the first three years of outcome and is forecast to do the same in the last two years of this parliamentary term. This is to be expected. Osborne cannot hold back the tide of inflation.

    In real terms expenditure has gone down over the first three years and is forecast to be some 2.75% down net over the five year term. Total Managed Expenditure as a % of GDP will also be reduced by 4.55% over the five years. In two years, however, 2010 and this fiscal year, real terms expenditure has been forecast and planned to rise.

    My figures are from the July release of the Public Expenditure Statistical Analyses (PESA 2013) which is the same month of release as the 2013 Blue Book referred to by Redwood. Reconciling the two may not however be easy.

    As the PESA figures are aggregrated figures (Total Managed Expenditure) there is a fair chance that Redwood is looking at a subset such as Central Government expenditure.

    I will check again in more detail later tonight, but I don't anticipate any real conflict. Redwood would prefer much heavier cuts in expenditure to Osborne. But it is precisely the restraint that Osborne has shown in restricting fiscal consolidation to 1% per annum that has enabled the UK to recover sooner than its EU competitors and with greater velocity (currently) than any of the G7 countries.
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    RogerRoger Posts: 18,916
    edited September 2013
    @Johnathan

    Too early to be concerned. There's no doubt Ed's laziness has been the reason for his present troubles. No one has any idea where he stands on anything.

    If he doesn't choose to define himself the vacuum will be filled by his opponents. It's too late to replace him so we'll just have to hope he finds himself a good agency with a coherent strategy
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    jayfdeejayfdee Posts: 618
    Sunil,best of luck. I well remember the anguish of job seeking,waiting for the Postman etc.
    I had loads of interviews and eventually got employed and hated it,then met up with a crazy entrepreneur,took a risk and joined him,and had a great career.
    You never know where your career will lead you,sometimes the opportunity comes out of the blue.
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    stodgestodge Posts: 12,916
    Evening all :)

    First, good luck to Sunil for the job interview. If he shows the same personality that he shows when helping visitors at North Weald, he's a certainty.

    On-topic, George Osborne has enjoyed some good fortune in his tenure as Chancellor. While it may be churlish to argue that the recovery has happened in spite rather than as a result of his actions, it's reasonable to argue that time and the economic cycle have been big factors in leading a general recovery (of sorts) across Europe and the US.

    I was never a fan of QE and bank bailouts and the billions poured into QE have now produced financial markets addicted to Government-based stimulus. Even the possibility of withdrawing that stimulus sent markets sliding. In the same way, we have all got used to cheap money and at some point normal monetary policy will have to return and we will have to get used to a different rate regimen with the impact that will have on loans and mortgages.

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    MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053
    edited September 2013
    HYUFD said:
    Yes! Obama is everything that many of us on PB thought him 4 1/2 years ago.
    We thought him as bad as Carter; he is worse: a ditherer, a bungler, and worse a dangerous loser. Dangerous for all of us that live in the western world and other democratic countries.
    Most agree that Obama is a lame duck president. Will he escape impeachment?

    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/concoughlin/100235457/its-official-barack-obama-is-now-a-lame-duck-president/
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    currystarcurrystar Posts: 1,171
    tim said:

    currystar said:

    Tim, the simple reason that a boom similar to Browns housing price boom will not happen is the difference in the mortgage market. In the early 2000s you could borrow what ever you liked, your income did not matter, self certification was in full effect. The changes bought in by the Govt has stopped this mad lending happening again. Osbornes scheme is just getting rid of the need for huge deposits which will stop the only people being able to buy properties being BTL landlords.

    Reducing required deposits by increasing prices and increasing required deposits, insane
    If people cant get a large enough mortgage due to the restrictions that now exist in regard to income multipliers then the boom you keep praying for wont happen.
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    Thanks for all the best wishes, everyone!

    If anyone's wondering I will be taking the train - can't remember the last time I had two interviews within three days, but I guess it means I only have to rehearse one presentation :)
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    AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    edited September 2013
    tim said:

    @Avery.

    Try looking forward not back, and the insane elements of Help To Buy don't even start until next Jan.
    Unless the Lib Dems can stop Bubble Boy Osborne

    tim

    The looks on Carney's face when Ed Conman asked him whether the Bank of England supported the Help to Buy scheme was 'a picture to behold'.

    HTB is capped at £130 bn over three years and this appears an appropriate stimulus given the real terms fall in mortgage lending since pre-crisis levels. Current lending is around £90 bn per annum compared to £221 bn in 2007, so around 39% of peak. In addition, at present, householders are paying down mortgages faster than they are taking out loans, In 2007, each quarter on average, the banks new lending was £53 bn compared to repayments of £43 bn.

    As the total three year stimulus is only around 16.6% of current outstandings, there is little to suggest that the current plans will cause a bubble similar to that blown up by Brown in the first half of the noughties decade.

    The facts and figures speak for themselves, If you disagree, provide a worked example using figures of how a bubble might be created.

    Until or unless you do, I will treat you with the same disdain and look that Carney visited upon our friend Conman.



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    MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053
    Good luck, Sunil. Hope it goes well for you.
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    IOSIOS Posts: 1,450
    Good luck Sunil
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    MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053
    Laura Kuenssberg ‏@ITVLauraK
    Statistic of the day - employment stats show 77,000 more estate agents than last year
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    Did someone talk about a bubble?
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    FPT
    I wonder if I've been counted as 'claiming benefit' even though I haven't been eligible since my Income-based JSA ran out nearly two years ago.

    Surely it's your contributions-based JSA that ran out, and yes if you are signing on to get NI credits you will be in at least one set of figures, probably the "claimant count".

    Edited to add... good luck with the job interviews!
    Thanks John! And yes - DOH! - I meant my contributions-based JSA, LOL!
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    Been out on training most of the day, in breaks I've tried skimming PB but could only really see tim saying something about Shapps and a UN bird and quelle surprise, not being impressed.

    Is that today's main news?
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,205
    Sunil Yes, assumed it was your contributions-based JSA that ran out and you are now claiming basic JSA unless you have a rather hefty inheritance or savings to live off. Anyway, best of luck with the interview too!
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    MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,320
    Very, very strong spin from Norman Smith on BBC1 6pm News tonight.

    Initially about Labour "losing the argument" on the economy but then much more strongly on Ed - first he said Ed had today had his lowest ever poll ratings and then he went on to say that Ed may be entering some "very difficult days".

    He didn't quite go so far as to say his leadership could be under threat but he wasn't far off.

    This looks very bad for Ed - people who don't follow politics that closely trust the BBC and if the BBC say he is doing badly then people will think he really is doing badly.
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    Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 27,056
    Good luck Sunil!
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    HYUFD said:

    Sunil Yes, assumed it was your contributions-based JSA that ran out and you are now claiming basic JSA unless you have a rather hefty inheritance or savings to live off. Anyway, best of luck with the interview too!

    HYUFD thanks - unfortunately my savings were the issue! Now you know why I was p*ssed with Carney's decision to keep Interest Rates rock bottom!
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,205
    edited September 2013
    MikeK - Agreed, Obama, with the exception of getting Bin Laden, is the weakest foreign policy president since Carter in fact in some ways weaker, as Carter at least confronted Iran, if rather ineptly. You could say he is the weakest president since WW2 abroad if not beyond
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    MarkSeniorMarkSenior Posts: 4,699
    I add my good wishes to Sunil for his interviews next week .... unless they are for an estate agents job .
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    Mori Schmori, Ed is doing fine. Leave him be and laugh at Shapps!

    OR

    Get Yvette in asap.....
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    I add my good wishes to Sunil for his interviews next week .... unless they are for an estate agents job .

    Thanks Mark - no worries, definitely not for that kind of job!!!
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    stodgestodge Posts: 12,916
    HYUFD said:

    MikeK - Agreed, Obama, with the exception of getting Bin Laden, is the weakest foreign policy president since Carter in fact in some ways weaker, as Carter at least confronted Iran, if rather ineptly. You could say he is the weakest president since WW2 abroad if not beyond

    The problem is all American Presidents cease to be domestic leaders and become primarily global figures and lose touch with the folks back home. George W. Bush and the Republican-controlled legislature not only indulged in a wild spending spree after 2001 but spent most of their time bogged down in Afghanistan and Iraq especially after 2004.

    Obama, as a Democrat, was untainted with any of this and appealed directly to the home audience and to pocketbook issues. That's how it works in the US - the outsider plays on the domestic agenda. In truth, many Americans don't care much for the international scene and have the same view of the world beyond the borders as George V had.
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    carlcarl Posts: 750
    Heh, lemmings.

    There's certainly something not quite right about this "recovery"
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    perdixperdix Posts: 1,806
    Roger said:

    Obama and to a slightly lesser extent Cameron have been made to look like amateurs by Russia and Putin.

    As I said a few weeks ago it would be interesting for a poll to ask who the Great British public trust most Obama/Cameron or Putin. I know who I do.

    Would you trust Putin? Could you live there and voice any opposition to his policies? Would you be comfortable being in business in Russia if you were to compete with a mate of Putin's?

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    Wotchit Marf, or you'll have some people cancelling their subscriptions. ;-)
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    @Sunil

    Good luck next week, mate. You deserve a break.
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    TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    MikeK said:

    Laura Kuenssberg ‏@ITVLauraK
    Statistic of the day - employment stats show 77,000 more estate agents than last year
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    Did someone talk about a bubble?

    Job snob !
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    NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 21,379
    edited September 2013
    I didn't watch PMQs, but a constituent who did says he was struck by Cameron claiming that exports were up. Did he? They are in fact down quite dramatically:

    http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/uktrade/uk-trade/july-2013/stb-uk-trade--july-2013.html

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    old_labourold_labour Posts: 3,238
    @Sunil_Prasannan

    Best of luck with the interviews.

    Nice cartoon, Marf! Though I suppose it could apply to all of the main parties :)

    FPT
    I wonder if I've been counted as 'claiming benefit' even though I haven't been eligible since my Income-based JSA ran out nearly two years ago.

    On a more positive note, I have two interviews within the next week, and will have had three in the last seven weeks - after eleven months on the trot without any.

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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,205
    Stodge Indeed, I doubt if it will do him much harm at home unless he is totally humiliated as Carter was over the Iranian hostages and he has had some domestic achievements on healthcare etc. Of course Dubya originally campaigned on not getting involved abroad. Being a successful foreign policy president does not help much at home, ask Bush Senior!
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    TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    Sunil,good luck for next week.
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    stodgestodge Posts: 12,916
    TGOHF said:

    MikeK said:

    Laura Kuenssberg ‏@ITVLauraK
    Statistic of the day - employment stats show 77,000 more estate agents than last year
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    Did someone talk about a bubble?

    Job snob !
    My recollection of the recession of the early 90s was that I knew things were bad when I saw the estate agents closing down. This time there's been none of that and indeed in London as SeanT has said and I can confirm from East London, the market remains incredibly buoyant with enormous demand nowhere near being met by supply of available housing for sale or rent.

    Not even a rise in interest rates will slow this down.

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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,205
    edited September 2013
    Sunil Can certainly see why Carney was not your favourite person then!
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    AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 23,771

    I didn't watch PMQs, but a constituent who did says he was struck by Cameron claiming that exports were up. Did he? They are in fact down quite dramatically:

    http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/uktrade/uk-trade/july-2013/stb-uk-trade--july-2013.html

    Depends on what your looking at. According to your ONS link 2012 was a record year for exports. This year exports are also up on 2012. July was a dip but the three month rolling is up 1.6% on 2012.
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    MarkSeniorMarkSenior Posts: 4,699

    I didn't watch PMQs, but a constituent who did says he was struck by Cameron claiming that exports were up. Did he? They are in fact down quite dramatically:

    http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/uktrade/uk-trade/july-2013/stb-uk-trade--july-2013.html

    Yep those figures are truly awful , so bad we need Avery to post one of his yellow coloured spoof posts to tell us how in reality they are marvelous and show prosperity is just round the corner . The one bright spot is that exports to EU countries are marginally up so again we need the EU haters to tell us how these figures show how better off we will be out of the EU ..
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    JamesMJamesM Posts: 221
    All the best with the interviews Sunil.
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    carlcarl Posts: 750

    I didn't watch PMQs, but a constituent who did says he was struck by Cameron claiming that exports were up. Did he? They are in fact down quite dramatically:

    http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/uktrade/uk-trade/july-2013/stb-uk-trade--july-2013.html

    Yep those figures are truly awful , so bad we need Avery to post one of his yellow coloured spoof posts to tell us how in reality they are marvelous and show prosperity is just round the corner . The one bright spot is that exports to EU countries are marginally up so again we need the EU haters to tell us how these figures show how better off we will be out of the EU ..
    Hehe Avery's yellow "you've never had it so good" posts are great.

    Look how many tractors we're producing! It's in sober blocky font and everything, with a yellow background, it must be authoritative!
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    AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    edited September 2013
                              The bad news                          

    Mark Senior is an Idiot





















    The good news

    Alanbrooke knows his onions


    Monthly trade figures are highly volatile. Last month surprised
    on the upside. This month on the downside. As Mr. Brooke stated
    correctly, the trend is upward both on tha six monthly rolling
    average and year on year. On a long term basis exports have not
    recovered to pre-crisis levels but this is as mainly due to the
    15% per annum falls in oil and gas exports due to falling North
    Sea output experienced since 2010.
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    JamesM said:

    All the best with the interviews Sunil.

    +1 Fingers crossed Sunil. :-)
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 92,086
    edited September 2013
    carl said:

    I didn't watch PMQs, but a constituent who did says he was struck by Cameron claiming that exports were up. Did he? They are in fact down quite dramatically:

    http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/uktrade/uk-trade/july-2013/stb-uk-trade--july-2013.html

    Yep those figures are truly awful , so bad we need Avery to post one of his yellow coloured spoof posts to tell us how in reality they are marvelous and show prosperity is just round the corner . The one bright spot is that exports to EU countries are marginally up so again we need the EU haters to tell us how these figures show how better off we will be out of the EU ..
    Hehe Avery's yellow "you've never had it so good" posts are great.

    Look how many tractors we're producing! It's in sober blocky font and everything, with a yellow background, it must be authoritative!
    Quite so. It was nice to see some optimism even in the darkest times though. That eventually things will pick up and so optimism will be right at some point, however long it takes, just makes it funnier. Still, positivity is needed, so we all need a bit of it now and again; people need to start thinking things are on the up, even when they aren't, to take risks and make it better.
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    isamisam Posts: 41,028
    edited September 2013
    Have I gone mad or was there a retweet here a minute ago from tim to oldlabour about posh house prices?
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    isam said:

    Have I gone mad or was there a retweet here a minute ago from tim to oldlabour about posh house prices?

    Embedded tweets are being removed automatically

    Is a bandwidth issue.
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    AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    Sunil

    If you are attending an interview, whatever else you do:

    DO NOT MENTION THE WAR
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    isamisam Posts: 41,028

    isam said:

    Have I gone mad or was there a retweet here a minute ago from tim to oldlabour about posh house prices?

    Embedded tweets are being removed automatically

    Is a bandwidth issue.
    Thanks!

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    AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 23,771
    carl said:

    I didn't watch PMQs, but a constituent who did says he was struck by Cameron claiming that exports were up. Did he? They are in fact down quite dramatically:

    http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/uktrade/uk-trade/july-2013/stb-uk-trade--july-2013.html

    Yep those figures are truly awful , so bad we need Avery to post one of his yellow coloured spoof posts to tell us how in reality they are marvelous and show prosperity is just round the corner . The one bright spot is that exports to EU countries are marginally up so again we need the EU haters to tell us how these figures show how better off we will be out of the EU ..
    Hehe Avery's yellow "you've never had it so good" posts are great.

    Look how many tractors we're producing! It's in sober blocky font and everything, with a yellow background, it must be authoritative!
    Don't be ridiculous, we're not producing anywhere near enough tractors, Blair sat back and offshored the industry now we have to import them.
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    Best of luck with the interviews, Sunil. You deserve a change of luck.
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    carlcarl Posts: 750



    carl said:

    I didn't watch PMQs, but a constituent who did says he was struck by Cameron claiming that exports were up. Did he? They are in fact down quite dramatically:

    http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/uktrade/uk-trade/july-2013/stb-uk-trade--july-2013.html

    Yep those figures are truly awful , so bad we need Avery to post one of his yellow coloured spoof posts to tell us how in reality they are marvelous and show prosperity is just round the corner . The one bright spot is that exports to EU countries are marginally up so again we need the EU haters to tell us how these figures show how better off we will be out of the EU ..
    Hehe Avery's yellow "you've never had it so good" posts are great.

    Look how many tractors we're producing! It's in sober blocky font and everything, with a yellow background, it must be authoritative!
    Don't be ridiculous, we're not producing anywhere near enough tractors, Blair sat back and offshored the industry now we have to import them.
    I'm sure Avery can post some Yellow statistics to show us that Osborne has fixed all that.
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    NextNext Posts: 826
    AveryLP said:

    Sunil

    If you are attending an interview, whatever else you do:

    DO NOT MENTION THE WAR

    Which one..?
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    Huzzah

    Martin Boon ‏@martinboon 2h

    @ICMResearch soon to join the #indyref fray with a regular polling feature. Look out for our first poll, currently in field. #MRX
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    Best of luck to you Sunil
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    NextNext Posts: 826
    Look, I've found it...






















    It's Ed Miliband's list of policies.
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    MyBurningEarsMyBurningEars Posts: 3,651
    edited September 2013

    I don't give a flying fcuk what my house is worth. I've absolutely no interest in selling it. Anyway, I'd have to find somewhere else to live!
    And leaflets about "cashing in on the value" go straight into the recycling bin.I might not care about leaving my (adult) children a substantial inheitance, but I'm sure as whatever not going to leave them with debts!

    What I want to see is my working neighbours being able to afford food etc, and not having their wages falling behind inflation!

    Oh, and by the way, best of, Sunil!


    Also wishing my best to Sunil.

    OKC - under English law one can't inherit a debt, so your children are safe. On the other hand, it is possible to inherit an estate encumbered by debt, which can cause problems dividing it, and at any rate I am sure your children approve of your prudence.

    Under Roman civil law, it was possible to inherit the debts of another. As a result of the principle of "universal succession" the heir to an estate would succeed its owner for all legal purposes, including for the performance of sacred rites, contractual and delictual (≈tort) rights, and the payment of debts. The damnosa hereditas (ruinous inheritance) would be most unwelcome.
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