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Betting responsibly of course.Pulpstar said:
All promoting "The Ladbrokes life"taffys said:
The bookies love that station, Coral are on every morning too.peter_from_putney said:
I was surprised to discover recently that Paddy Power, your main man himself, is interviewed daily on TalkSport radio, discussing topical sporting events and the relating betting odds.Casino_Royale said:@TSE - you have to admire the chutzpah of Paddy Power.
It must be a real scream to work there. Fantastic sense of humour.0 -
I agree with all of this.Luckyguy1983 said:I'm highly amused at the notion of a 'brutal attack' on someone by Matthew Parris (previous victims - everyone in Clacton) is likely to damage them within the Conservative party leadership rankings. Surely it's more of a badge of honour.
Having said that, Boris is having a very bad war. I don't think it's his support for Brexit, I think it's the half-heartedness of his support for it. Once he was decided he should have known that was him and he had to demolish Dave and Remain or be demolished.
If you step on stage to perform karaoke, you have to belt out the song with gusto. Don't worry about the quality of your voice, your ability to handle the song or a few flat notes. If you timidly try to half-whisper your way through it, you'll die a death. It's odd that Boris Johnson of all people has made this mistake.0 -
Very good analogy - going to steal that.AlastairMeeks said:
I agree with all of this.Luckyguy1983 said:I'm highly amused at the notion of a 'brutal attack' on someone by Matthew Parris (previous victims - everyone in Clacton) is likely to damage them within the Conservative party leadership rankings. Surely it's more of a badge of honour.
Having said that, Boris is having a very bad war. I don't think it's his support for Brexit, I think it's the half-heartedness of his support for it. Once he was decided he should have known that was him and he had to demolish Dave and Remain or be demolished.
If you step on stage to perform karaoke, you have to belt out the song with gusto. Don't worry about the quality of your voice, your ability to handle the song or a few flat notes. If you timidly try to half-whisper your way through it, you'll die a death. It's odd that Boris Johnson of all people has made this mistake.0 -
One HMG conference my team attended was equally hilarious and awful. There were so many complaints afterwards we looked the hotel up on Trip Advisor.
Many many anecdotes and pix of suspicious stains, dead insects, pubic hair in beds and gaffer tape holding curtains up or carpet down. We spent the next afternoon crying with laughter and horror at the reviews.Richard_Nabavi said:O/T Just looking to book a hotel room, and was checking through some reviews:
Rooms are really nice. We were upgraded as we needed a cot and the room might have been a little small without it, so was really pleased. Also, breakfast was great but unfortunately my daughter vomited all over the floor during it0 -
I fall in the camp of this backlash is ridiculous and should be mocked, but that the ad company does this for a living and shame on them for not realizing this reaction would happen.FrancisUrquhart said:Is this Gap advert racist?
http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-35968787
RACCCISTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT...oh wait there is another picture the other way around...still RRRRRRACCCCISTTTTTT as "that lil white girl [in the old photo] looks fierce. The beautiful black girl [in the new photo] looks pissed,"...
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Certainly not.MTimT said:
I fall in the camp of this backlash is ridiculous and should be mocked, but that the ad company does this for a living and shame on them for not realizing this reaction would happen.FrancisUrquhart said:Is this Gap advert racist?
http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-35968787
RACCCISTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT...oh wait there is another picture the other way around...still RRRRRRACCCCISTTTTTT as "that lil white girl [in the old photo] looks fierce. The beautiful black girl [in the new photo] looks pissed,"...
Need SAFE SPACE SAFE SPACE....don't you dare put your hand up, this is a SAFE SPACEEEE...
A lot of fuss about nothing.0 -
Are you insane? The gallumphing incompetence and inappropriateness of Gordon Brown as an individual, and the complete destruction of the economy by the Labour government under his leadership, were massive and overwhelming factors way before the 2010 election, for years, right up to and into the election campaign. It didn't somehow only start "afterwards".Danny565 said:
Then what about Gordon Brown?? People still overwhelmingly saw him as competent in 2010 (the perception that Labour had "wrecked the economy" only came AFTER that election with the "no money left" letter) -- I canvassed many doorsteps in that election, and tons of people said they thought he was better than Cameron at handling the economy, but they still wouldn't vote Labour because they didn't like Brown as a person.Indigo said:
If Gove takes over late this year or early next year that might not matter. If he has three years to bed into the job, and be seen to do stuff and make things happen. If he shows a bit more leg on his principles, and takes a pragmatic and no-nonsense approach in government he will be a known quantity with proven competence by the election. The problem Wallace had was he was weird, and an unknown quantity, and suspected of being a bit of a opportunist bullshitter.Danny565 said:I really can't believe Labour would be this lucky.
The main problem with Gove is not the teaching unions' vitriol towards him, but the fact that, frankly, the man makes Ed Miliband look cool, socially competent, great company at the pub and not-at-all-weird.
A reputation for competence and common sense would easily trump a bit of uncoolness, especially verses a terrorist sympathising magic money tree marxist
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Shame that George Mason University has decided to reverse its decision to rename its law school after the recently deceased Supreme Court justice, Mr Scalia. Apparently, the Antonin Scalia School of Law (ASSLaw) was deemed to joke-worthy.0
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I think that's right. I like him too because I like egghead politicians who clearly have some genuine ideas on what would be good, but I don't think I'm the target swing voter the Tories have in mind..Plato_Says said:I like Gove, but he's so incredibly swottish. He doesn't have the charisma for broad appeal. I'd take him for a DPM role.
Danny565 said:I really can't believe Labour would be this lucky.
The main problem with Gove is not the teaching unions' vitriol towards him, but the fact that, frankly, the man makes Ed Miliband look cool, socially competent, great company at the pub and not-at-all-weird.0 -
This issue isn't whether it is a fuss about nothing, but that the ad company have put its client in a predictable and awkward position. If you use black kids in your ads to sell yourself as non-racist, you better well know how the race-victim industry will seek to misconstrue it.Casino_Royale said:
Certainly not.MTimT said:
I fall in the camp of this backlash is ridiculous and should be mocked, but that the ad company does this for a living and shame on them for not realizing this reaction would happen.FrancisUrquhart said:Is this Gap advert racist?
http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-35968787
RACCCISTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT...oh wait there is another picture the other way around...still RRRRRRACCCCISTTTTTT as "that lil white girl [in the old photo] looks fierce. The beautiful black girl [in the new photo] looks pissed,"...
Need SAFE SPACE SAFE SPACE....don't you dare put your hand up, this is a SAFE SPACEEEE...
A lot of fuss about nothing.
The inclusion of the black kid was not thoughtless - it was clearly deliberate and to send a message. If you are doing that, you should be equally thoughtful of the risks you are creating for your client.0 -
Have you seen the Thomas the Tank Engine news todayCasino_Royale said:
Certainly not.MTimT said:
I fall in the camp of this backlash is ridiculous and should be mocked, but that the ad company does this for a living and shame on them for not realizing this reaction would happen.FrancisUrquhart said:Is this Gap advert racist?
http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-35968787
RACCCISTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT...oh wait there is another picture the other way around...still RRRRRRACCCCISTTTTTT as "that lil white girl [in the old photo] looks fierce. The beautiful black girl [in the new photo] looks pissed,"...
Need SAFE SPACE SAFE SPACE....don't you dare put your hand up, this is a SAFE SPACEEEE...
A lot of fuss about nothing.
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He is hoping people won't notice which song he is whispering, so that he can change tune if it turns out to be expedient with the minimum of inconvenience. I think it's also a forgone conclusion that he will sing with more gusto if Leave start to pull ahead (ie just when his singing isnt required any more)AlastairMeeks said:
I agree with all of this.Luckyguy1983 said:I'm highly amused at the notion of a 'brutal attack' on someone by Matthew Parris (previous victims - everyone in Clacton) is likely to damage them within the Conservative party leadership rankings. Surely it's more of a badge of honour.
Having said that, Boris is having a very bad war. I don't think it's his support for Brexit, I think it's the half-heartedness of his support for it. Once he was decided he should have known that was him and he had to demolish Dave and Remain or be demolished.
If you step on stage to perform karaoke, you have to belt out the song with gusto. Don't worry about the quality of your voice, your ability to handle the song or a few flat notes. If you timidly try to half-whisper your way through it, you'll die a death. It's odd that Boris Johnson of all people has made this mistake.
Boris reminds me of the ferry owner in Outlaw Josey Wales, singing "Dixie" as he leaves the rebels on one river bank, but gustily belting out "Battle Hymn of the Republic" as he gets back to the union soldiers on the other bank waiting to cross.
https://youtu.be/5Sho8GETs80?t=46s0 -
Bollocks! As it happens I don't rate it as a piece of marketing, but it's about capturing a moment - what's wrong with the black girl looking pissed off? Perhaps she was pissed off at that moment and the photographer thought it was a great expression to capture. Perhaps she's not pissed off at all. I'm absolutely against fashion photography promoting negative and dark stuff (see Terry Richardson/American Apparel as an example), but in this instance there was nothing wrong and GAP should have stuck to their guns.MTimT said:
I fall in the camp of this backlash is ridiculous and should be mocked, but that the ad company does this for a living and shame on them for not realizing this reaction would happen.FrancisUrquhart said:Is this Gap advert racist?
http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-35968787
RACCCISTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT...oh wait there is another picture the other way around...still RRRRRRACCCCISTTTTTT as "that lil white girl [in the old photo] looks fierce. The beautiful black girl [in the new photo] looks pissed,"...
Need SAFE SPACE SAFE SPACE....don't you dare put your hand up, this is a SAFE SPACEEEE...0 -
Interesting that Vote Leave is now focussing on "Vote Leave to save the NHS"..... Could that message finally be the one to motivate somewhat detatched Labour voters?0
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Will Paddy Power still have that edge in their advertising after the merger?
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I look forward to the usual suspects exploding in anger at the dishonesty of the claim.MarqueeMark said:Interesting that Vote Leave is now focussing on "Vote Leave to save the NHS"..... Could that message finally be the one to motivate somewhat detatched Labour voters?
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No message, just a kid.MTimT said:
This issue isn't whether it is a fuss about nothing, but that the ad company have put its client in a predictable and awkward position. If you use black kids in your ads to sell yourself as non-racist, you better well know how the race-victim industry will seek to misconstrue it.Casino_Royale said:
Certainly not.MTimT said:
I fall in the camp of this backlash is ridiculous and should be mocked, but that the ad company does this for a living and shame on them for not realizing this reaction would happen.FrancisUrquhart said:Is this Gap advert racist?
http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-35968787
RACCCISTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT...oh wait there is another picture the other way around...still RRRRRRACCCCISTTTTTT as "that lil white girl [in the old photo] looks fierce. The beautiful black girl [in the new photo] looks pissed,"...
Need SAFE SPACE SAFE SPACE....don't you dare put your hand up, this is a SAFE SPACEEEE...
A lot of fuss about nothing.
The inclusion of the black kid was not thoughtless - it was clearly deliberate and to send a message. If you are doing that, you should be equally thoughtful of the risks you are creating for your client.
Honestly, I am sick and tired of this crap.
It's just some kids. In a photo.
When will we all learn to grow up?
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Does Benetton still exist? Some of their stuff was yuck.Luckyguy1983 said:
Bollocks! As it happens I don't rate it as a piece of marketing, but it's about capturing a moment - what's wrong with the black girl looking pissed off? Perhaps she was pissed off at that moment and the photographer thought it was a great expression to capture. Perhaps she's not pissed off at all. I'm absolutely against fashion photography promoting negative and dark stuff (see Terry Richardson/American Apparel as an example), but in this instance there was nothing wrong and GAP should have stuck to their guns.MTimT said:
I fall in the camp of this backlash is ridiculous and should be mocked, but that the ad company does this for a living and shame on them for not realizing this reaction would happen.FrancisUrquhart said:Is this Gap advert racist?
http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-35968787
RACCCISTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT...oh wait there is another picture the other way around...still RRRRRRACCCCISTTTTTT as "that lil white girl [in the old photo] looks fierce. The beautiful black girl [in the new photo] looks pissed,"...
Need SAFE SPACE SAFE SPACE....don't you dare put your hand up, this is a SAFE SPACEEEE...0 -
I'd assumed the slightly more specific ASSoL was what caused the problem.MTimT said:Shame that George Mason University has decided to reverse its decision to rename its law school after the recently deceased Supreme Court justice, Mr Scalia. Apparently, the Antonin Scalia School of Law (ASSLaw) was deemed to joke-worthy.
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MarqueeMark said:
Interesting that Vote Leave is now focussing on "Vote Leave to save the NHS"..... Could that message finally be the one to motivate somewhat detatched Labour voters?
A number of senior labour politicians were desperately trying to put this one to bed a few days ago.MarqueeMark said:Interesting that Vote Leave is now focussing on "Vote Leave to save the NHS"..... Could that message finally be the one to motivate somewhat detatched Labour voters?
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/apr/03/claims-brexit-could-save-nhs-dangerous-lie-ex-health-secretaries0 -
After "immigrant camps in Kent" we barely notice the whoppers (and come to that, the scare stories) these days, it's all become part of the wallpaper, a problem I suspect both sides will face soon if not already.Richard_Nabavi said:
I look forward to the usual suspects exploding in anger at the dishonesty of the claim.MarqueeMark said:Interesting that Vote Leave is now focussing on "Vote Leave to save the NHS"..... Could that message finally be the one to motivate somewhat detatched Labour voters?
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I think that was the original. If you’re in a hole, stop digging.Theuniondivvie said:
I'd assumed the slightly more specific ASSoL was what caused the problem.MTimT said:Shame that George Mason University has decided to reverse its decision to rename its law school after the recently deceased Supreme Court justice, Mr Scalia. Apparently, the Antonin Scalia School of Law (ASSLaw) was deemed to joke-worthy.
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If you or I took the photo, yes, it's just a kid. Not so an ad agency. They get paid to come up with messages which sell through visual and emotional impact, and to ensure that there are no problems with the images chosen. This certainly is not a random photo. I guess we'll have to disagree on this one.Casino_Royale said:
No message, just a kid.MTimT said:
This issue isn't whether it is a fuss about nothing, but that the ad company have put its client in a predictable and awkward position. If you use black kids in your ads to sell yourself as non-racist, you better well know how the race-victim industry will seek to misconstrue it.Casino_Royale said:
Certainly not.MTimT said:
I fall in the camp of this backlash is ridiculous and should be mocked, but that the ad company does this for a living and shame on them for not realizing this reaction would happen.FrancisUrquhart said:Is this Gap advert racist?
http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-35968787
RACCCISTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT...oh wait there is another picture the other way around...still RRRRRRACCCCISTTTTTT as "that lil white girl [in the old photo] looks fierce. The beautiful black girl [in the new photo] looks pissed,"...
Need SAFE SPACE SAFE SPACE....don't you dare put your hand up, this is a SAFE SPACEEEE...
A lot of fuss about nothing.
The inclusion of the black kid was not thoughtless - it was clearly deliberate and to send a message. If you are doing that, you should be equally thoughtful of the risks you are creating for your client.
Honestly, I am sick and tired of this crap.
It's just some kids. In a photo.
When will we all learn to grow up?
..will we grow up?0 -
Good afternoon, everyone.
Mr. Royale, are you referring to this?:
https://twitter.com/MartinDaubney/status/7172774042349527050 -
Worst version of YMCA ever.FrancisUrquhart said:Is this Gap advert racist?
http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-35968787
RACCCISTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT...oh wait there is another picture the other way around...still RRRRRRACCCCISTTTTTT as "that lil white girl [in the old photo] looks fierce. The beautiful black girl [in the new photo] looks pissed,"...
Need SAFE SPACE SAFE SPACE....don't you dare put your hand up, this is a SAFE SPACEEEE...0 -
I'm impressed.Richard_Nabavi said:
I look forward to the usual suspects exploding in anger at the dishonesty of the claim.MarqueeMark said:Interesting that Vote Leave is now focussing on "Vote Leave to save the NHS"..... Could that message finally be the one to motivate somewhat detatched Labour voters?
It's good to see Leave up their game, and fight back by the same dirty rules as Remain.0 -
Mr. Meeks, surely they simply need to do a Safety Dance?0
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I don't know if I'm a usual suspect, and I haven't seen the details, but I agree on the surface of it it's dishonest and untrue.Richard_Nabavi said:
I look forward to the usual suspects exploding in anger at the dishonesty of the claim.MarqueeMark said:Interesting that Vote Leave is now focussing on "Vote Leave to save the NHS"..... Could that message finally be the one to motivate somewhat detatched Labour voters?
I can only assume Vote Leave have focus grouped the salience of what presses British voters buttons.
The money we send to the EU, the NHS, migration, control over our laws are probably the top ones.0 -
Well it's certainly generated publicity, which is the aim of the game !MTimT said:
If you or I took the photo, yes, it's just a kid. Not so an ad agency. They get paid to come up with messages which sell through visual and emotional impact, and to ensure that there are no problems with the images chosen. This certainly is not a random photo. I guess we'll have to disagree on this one.Casino_Royale said:
No message, just a kid.MTimT said:
This issue isn't whether it is a fuss about nothing, but that the ad company have put its client in a predictable and awkward position. If you use black kids in your ads to sell yourself as non-racist, you better well know how the race-victim industry will seek to misconstrue it.Casino_Royale said:
Certainly not.MTimT said:
I fall in the camp of this backlash is ridiculous and should be mocked, but that the ad company does this for a living and shame on them for not realizing this reaction would happen.FrancisUrquhart said:Is this Gap advert racist?
http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-35968787
RACCCISTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT...oh wait there is another picture the other way around...still RRRRRRACCCCISTTTTTT as "that lil white girl [in the old photo] looks fierce. The beautiful black girl [in the new photo] looks pissed,"...
Need SAFE SPACE SAFE SPACE....don't you dare put your hand up, this is a SAFE SPACEEEE...
A lot of fuss about nothing.
The inclusion of the black kid was not thoughtless - it was clearly deliberate and to send a message. If you are doing that, you should be equally thoughtful of the risks you are creating for your client.
Honestly, I am sick and tired of this crap.
It's just some kids. In a photo.
When will we all learn to grow up?
..will we grow up?0 -
European football corrupt, surely some mistake.dr_spyn said:UEFA more bad news.
https://twitter.com/AFP/status/717718619828973569
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I'm sure some well positioned PB Tory pulled some strings to make it happen.SeanT said:
The implication is that you were already in Business?rcs1000 said:Hello from Emirates Flight 009. The inflight Wifi blocks politicalbetting.com with a warning about viewing "inappropriate content" on the flight. Fortunately using vanilla works.
Sigh.
I guess I should create PB.com <-> IRC bridge.
(But not today.)
Now: etiquette question for PBers. On checking in, the lady asked me: "Do you mind getting broken up, because I can upgrade one of you to First Class." I immediately put my wife forward and offered to look after our two small children for the seven hour flight at the back of the bus.
She accepted (and then texted me to say she was enjoying vintage Don Perignon.)
What would be appropriate recompense for my extraordinary selflessness?
Few people get upgraded straight from Economy to First. Unless you are a VIP slumming it, just for once, and the airline knows this.
So you're either subtly telling us you were in Biz or you're hinting at your vast importance.
Clever.... Only appropriate for the heir to the PB realm. 0 -
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Several small children in Biz? I bet you were popular!RobD said:
I'm sure some well positioned PB Tory pulled some strings to make it happen.SeanT said:
The implication is that you were already in Business?rcs1000 said:Hello from Emirates Flight 009. The inflight Wifi blocks politicalbetting.com with a warning about viewing "inappropriate content" on the flight. Fortunately using vanilla works.
Sigh.
I guess I should create PB.com <-> IRC bridge.
(But not today.)
Now: etiquette question for PBers. On checking in, the lady asked me: "Do you mind getting broken up, because I can upgrade one of you to First Class." I immediately put my wife forward and offered to look after our two small children for the seven hour flight at the back of the bus.
She accepted (and then texted me to say she was enjoying vintage Don Perignon.)
What would be appropriate recompense for my extraordinary selflessness?
Few people get upgraded straight from Economy to First. Unless you are a VIP slumming it, just for once, and the airline knows this.
So you're either subtly telling us you were in Biz or you're hinting at your vast importance.
Clever.... Only appropriate for the heir to the PB realm.0 -
Ah, I see re 'straw men.' Yes I did intend the remark about Huhne, Laws Coulson etc. as s joke (well, mostly as a joke).Mortimer said:
The strawman comment was an attempt at a humourous response to your flippant, but presumably similarly humourous effort relating to prisoners....
But I see that you haven't responded to my comments about just how much reforming the teaching profession still seems to need...
There are great teachers - I'm sure you're one; a couple of my mates are too. But other people who I went to school with have become teachers in subjects at which they were during 5th form mediocre at best. They're posting '23 sleeps till holidays' or something similarly mindless on fb. That inspires little confidence. I'm not sure anyone absorbed in the day to day work of any non-commercial (and many commercial jobs) job has objectivity about the state of the profession.
I'm just not sure what points you made about teaching that you want me to respond to. You say one of your mates tells you teachers are demotivated (well, that's hardly suprising when everyone tells us we're rubbish and lazy all the time, is it?). Not knowing this person or their school I can't comment. However, a lot of the time I find those who have got to SLT level tend to exaggerate the weaknesses of their school so they can prove all the paperwork they make us do shows they've made a positive difference and justify their high salaries and light teaching loads. That goes triple for OFSTED inspectors.
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Again I can't comment on the qualifications of your friends. All I can tell you is that in my school 50% of teachers have masters degrees or better in their subjects, including me as one of the two with full doctorates. In my last school that figure was lower, but it was comparable to the figure in the very rough inner-city school I taught in first. Has it occurred to you that maybe some of your friends were late developers who picked up when they went to university? I'veknown that happen a lot, particularly with people who were only interested in one subject (speaking as a teacher and former lecturer here).
I do not, and never have, denied that many changes could be made. I do say that Gove's reforms were badly enacted largely because of his personal failures. The reforms now are incidentally the precise opposite of putting the parents/children at the heart of it - by handing schools en bloc to academy chains Morgan is actually making them even less accountable to parents than they were under LEAs. Which is in my view, as a teacher, completely wrong. I answer to my Head, he answers to the Governors, they answer to parents. That is how it should be in all schools and I am furious that is being taken away.
This is why I am so angry with Gove. He came in and I had high hopes that finally he would sort matters out. What he did, because he is dogmatic and arrogant and lacks strategic forethought, is take careful aim at the teachers, who wanted him to succeed, on the advice of the DfES, various businesses and OFSTED, whom he was too naive to see were trying to hijack education via his reforms for their own ends. I feel extremely let down as a result. That is why his tenure was disastrous and that is why he should not be PM.0 -
A heinous crime, if they aren't well behaved. On the plus side, the chances of your favourite tipple running out are smaller! In any case, I suspect he meant economy, some airlines only have two classes on some routes.OldKingCole said:
Several small children in Biz? I bet you were popular!RobD said:
I'm sure some well positioned PB Tory pulled some strings to make it happen.SeanT said:
The implication is that you were already in Business?rcs1000 said:Hello from Emirates Flight 009. The inflight Wifi blocks politicalbetting.com with a warning about viewing "inappropriate content" on the flight. Fortunately using vanilla works.
Sigh.
I guess I should create PB.com <-> IRC bridge.
(But not today.)
Now: etiquette question for PBers. On checking in, the lady asked me: "Do you mind getting broken up, because I can upgrade one of you to First Class." I immediately put my wife forward and offered to look after our two small children for the seven hour flight at the back of the bus.
She accepted (and then texted me to say she was enjoying vintage Don Perignon.)
What would be appropriate recompense for my extraordinary selflessness?
Few people get upgraded straight from Economy to First. Unless you are a VIP slumming it, just for once, and the airline knows this.
So you're either subtly telling us you were in Biz or you're hinting at your vast importance.
Clever.... Only appropriate for the heir to the PB realm.0 -
Remember the Irish election?
Well, they are still faffing around trying to salvage a government out of the mess. A second set of votes is taking place at the moment, but this is still shadow-boxing.
http://www.rte.ie/news/2016/0406/779889-second-vote-for-taoiseach/
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Well, Remain seem to have set the bar at "whatever works...." The fact that Labour health bods get all riled up suggests they are worried it is a line of attack that could cut through.Richard_Nabavi said:
I look forward to the usual suspects exploding in anger at the dishonesty of the claim.MarqueeMark said:Interesting that Vote Leave is now focussing on "Vote Leave to save the NHS"..... Could that message finally be the one to motivate somewhat detatched Labour voters?
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Don't know. I agree about some of their advertising. Their clothes were very good though, I had a hand me down rugby top that just never faded. Someone at uni nicked it in the end.Plato_Says said:Does Benetton still exist? Some of their stuff was yuck.
Luckyguy1983 said:
Bollocks! As it happens I don't rate it as a piece of marketing, but it's about capturing a moment - what's wrong with the black girl looking pissed off? Perhaps she was pissed off at that moment and the photographer thought it was a great expression to capture. Perhaps she's not pissed off at all. I'm absolutely against fashion photography promoting negative and dark stuff (see Terry Richardson/American Apparel as an example), but in this instance there was nothing wrong and GAP should have stuck to their guns.MTimT said:
I fall in the camp of this backlash is ridiculous and should be mocked, but that the ad company does this for a living and shame on them for not realizing this reaction would happen.FrancisUrquhart said:Is this Gap advert racist?
http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-35968787
RACCCISTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT...oh wait there is another picture the other way around...still RRRRRRACCCCISTTTTTT as "that lil white girl [in the old photo] looks fierce. The beautiful black girl [in the new photo] looks pissed,"...
Need SAFE SPACE SAFE SPACE....don't you dare put your hand up, this is a SAFE SPACEEEE...0 -
So they're still unable to decide who should officially implement the policies of the European Central Bank?Richard_Nabavi said:Remember the Irish election?
Well, they are still faffing around trying to salvage a government out of the mess. A second set of votes is taking place at the moment, but this is still shadow-boxing.
http://www.rte.ie/news/2016/0406/779889-second-vote-for-taoiseach/0 -
I suspect this is all based on the TTPI claims. Many on the Left have claimed that the TTPI deal between the EU and the US will force the NHS to allow privitisation. Consequently it is claimed as the end of the world as we know it.Casino_Royale said:
I don't know if I'm a usual suspect, and I haven't seen the details, but I agree on the surface of it it's dishonest and untrue.Richard_Nabavi said:
I look forward to the usual suspects exploding in anger at the dishonesty of the claim.MarqueeMark said:Interesting that Vote Leave is now focussing on "Vote Leave to save the NHS"..... Could that message finally be the one to motivate somewhat detatched Labour voters?
I can only assume Vote Leave have focus grouped the salience of what presses British voters buttons.
The money we send to the EU, the NHS, migration, control over our laws are probably the top ones.
I have no idea where this claim comes from as I must admit the whole TTPI saga seems impenetrable to me. But given how often it is claimed that the NHS is being privitised (basically every time anyone in Government dares to suggest that it might not be the most perfect health care system in the world) I am afraid I have little faith in the claims that TTPI will make any difference to how it is run.
To my mind this is simply another example of Project Fear that both sides seem to think is the only way to win.I doubt it has any more validity than 30 million immigrants or 50 million job losses.0 -
Don't we all just love PR.Richard_Nabavi said:Remember the Irish election?
Well, they are still faffing around trying to salvage a government out of the mess. A second set of votes is taking place at the moment, but this is still shadow-boxing.
http://www.rte.ie/news/2016/0406/779889-second-vote-for-taoiseach/0 -
I don't know what you mean?
We're not going to be nuked by North Korea? The Jungle won't move to Dover? Overseas Premiership footballers will still get jobs here? Those on holiday will be able to get a flight home after 24th June?MarqueeMark said:
Well, Remain seem to have set the bar at "whatever works...." The fact that Labour health bods get all riled up suggests they are worried it is a line of attack that could cut through.Richard_Nabavi said:
I look forward to the usual suspects exploding in anger at the dishonesty of the claim.MarqueeMark said:Interesting that Vote Leave is now focussing on "Vote Leave to save the NHS"..... Could that message finally be the one to motivate somewhat detatched Labour voters?
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Sorry that should have said TTIP. Brain freeze.Richard_Tyndall said:
I suspect this is all based on the TTPI claims. Many on the Left have claimed that the TTPI deal between the EU and the US will force the NHS to allow privitisation. Consequently it is claimed as the end of the world as we know it.Casino_Royale said:
I don't know if I'm a usual suspect, and I haven't seen the details, but I agree on the surface of it it's dishonest and untrue.Richard_Nabavi said:
I look forward to the usual suspects exploding in anger at the dishonesty of the claim.MarqueeMark said:Interesting that Vote Leave is now focussing on "Vote Leave to save the NHS"..... Could that message finally be the one to motivate somewhat detatched Labour voters?
I can only assume Vote Leave have focus grouped the salience of what presses British voters buttons.
The money we send to the EU, the NHS, migration, control over our laws are probably the top ones.
I have no idea where this claim comes from as I must admit the whole TTPI saga seems impenetrable to me. But given how often it is claimed that the NHS is being privitised (basically every time anyone in Government dares to suggest that it might not be the most perfect health care system in the world) I am afraid I have little faith in the claims that TTPI will make any difference to how it is run.
To my mind this is simply another example of Project Fear that both sides seem to think is the only way to win.I doubt it has any more validity than 30 million immigrants or 50 million job losses.0 -
TTIP is like catnip to certain NHS supporters on the Labour side. I've no idea what difference it would actually make, but crowbarring NHS-Privatisation-America into a slogan seems to tick all the right boxes.Richard_Tyndall said:
I suspect this is all based on the TTPI claims. Many on the Left have claimed that the TTPI deal between the EU and the US will force the NHS to allow privitisation. Consequently it is claimed as the end of the world as we know it.Casino_Royale said:
I don't know if I'm a usual suspect, and I haven't seen the details, but I agree on the surface of it it's dishonest and untrue.Richard_Nabavi said:
I look forward to the usual suspects exploding in anger at the dishonesty of the claim.MarqueeMark said:Interesting that Vote Leave is now focussing on "Vote Leave to save the NHS"..... Could that message finally be the one to motivate somewhat detatched Labour voters?
I can only assume Vote Leave have focus grouped the salience of what presses British voters buttons.
The money we send to the EU, the NHS, migration, control over our laws are probably the top ones.
I have no idea where this claim comes from as I must admit the whole TTPI saga seems impenetrable to me. But given how often it is claimed that the NHS is being privitised (basically every time anyone in Government dares to suggest that it might not be the most perfect health care system in the world) I am afraid I have little faith in the claims that TTPI will make any difference to how it is run.
To my mind this is simply another example of Project Fear that both sides seem to think is the only way to win.I doubt it has any more validity than 30 million immigrants or 50 million job losses.0 -
Now this is priceless:
Street signs in tribute to leading suffragettes who lived in Salford have had to be amended after a spelling slip-up.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-35975782
The signs, to honour Emmeline Pankhurst and her daughter, were misspelt Parkhurst Close and Chrisable Walk.
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The liars are caught out yet again, when will the diddy parties in Scotland ever get any talent to challenge the SNP.Scott_P said:This is entertaining
@davieclegg: The question Richard Lochhead is facing: "Did you leak a 13 year old email about Kez Dugdale and have you heard of Alistair Carmichael?"0 -
I think it might be more due to a series of articles that have been run in the Telegraph in recent weeks pointing out that growing the population by more than 300,000 people a year (the size of a medium size city) without a commensurate increase in the number of doctors, nurses, other health professionals and establishments has put and will continue to put a greater load on the NHS than it can reasonably be expected to carry.Richard_Tyndall said:
I suspect this is all based on the TTPI claims. Many on the Left have claimed that the TTPI deal between the EU and the US will force the NHS to allow privitisation. Consequently it is claimed as the end of the world as we know it.Casino_Royale said:
I don't know if I'm a usual suspect, and I haven't seen the details, but I agree on the surface of it it's dishonest and untrue.Richard_Nabavi said:
I look forward to the usual suspects exploding in anger at the dishonesty of the claim.MarqueeMark said:Interesting that Vote Leave is now focussing on "Vote Leave to save the NHS"..... Could that message finally be the one to motivate somewhat detatched Labour voters?
I can only assume Vote Leave have focus grouped the salience of what presses British voters buttons.
The money we send to the EU, the NHS, migration, control over our laws are probably the top ones.
I have no idea where this claim comes from as I must admit the whole TTPI saga seems impenetrable to me. But given how often it is claimed that the NHS is being privitised (basically every time anyone in Government dares to suggest that it might not be the most perfect health care system in the world) I am afraid I have little faith in the claims that TTPI will make any difference to how it is run.
To my mind this is simply another example of Project Fear that both sides seem to think is the only way to win.I doubt it has any more validity than 30 million immigrants or 50 million job losses.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-35975782ydoethur said:Now this is priceless:
Street signs in tribute to leading suffragettes who lived in Salford have had to be amended after a spelling slip-up.
The signs, to honour Emmeline Pankhurst and her daughter, were misspelt Parkhurst Close and Chrisable Walk.
The name of a suffragette who spent so much time in prison is mis-spelled as Parkhurst?
Arf - it’s little things like that that makes me wonder, should an employee at the Salford City Council Street sign department be sacked or promoted.0 -
Speaking of open goals for Leave haymaking. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/06/britain-could-be-left-unable-to-deport-asylum-seekers-under-eu-p/
Britain will be left unable to deport thousands of asylum seekers under plans being considered by the European Commission ahead of the EU referendum.
The European Commission is considering plans to scrap asylum rules that allow Britain to deport around 1,000 failed claimants a year. The rules, known as the Dublin regulation, oblige asylum seekers to stay in the first country that they arrive in.
The Commission is proposing scrapping them for a "fair" system which would distribute migrants across Europe, relieving pressure on Greece and Italy. Britain could opt out of the new federal system, but in doing so would lose the powers of removal under the Dublin regulation.0 -
How would that position be improved by leaving the EU? This is a removal of an advantage of being in the EU, not the imposition of a disadvantage.Plato_Says said:Speaking of open goals for Leave haymaking. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/06/britain-could-be-left-unable-to-deport-asylum-seekers-under-eu-p/
Britain will be left unable to deport thousands of asylum seekers under plans being considered by the European Commission ahead of the EU referendum.
The European Commission is considering plans to scrap asylum rules that allow Britain to deport around 1,000 failed claimants a year. The rules, known as the Dublin regulation, oblige asylum seekers to stay in the first country that they arrive in.
The Commission is proposing scrapping them for a "fair" system which would distribute migrants across Europe, relieving pressure on Greece and Italy. Britain could opt out of the new federal system, but in doing so would lose the powers of removal under the Dublin regulation.0 -
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How would leaving the EU affect that however?Plato_Says said:Speaking of open goals for Leave haymaking. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/06/britain-could-be-left-unable-to-deport-asylum-seekers-under-eu-p/
Britain will be left unable to deport thousands of asylum seekers under plans being considered by the European Commission ahead of the EU referendum.
The European Commission is considering plans to scrap asylum rules that allow Britain to deport around 1,000 failed claimants a year. The rules, known as the Dublin regulation, oblige asylum seekers to stay in the first country that they arrive in.
The Commission is proposing scrapping them for a "fair" system which would distribute migrants across Europe, relieving pressure on Greece and Italy. Britain could opt out of the new federal system, but in doing so would lose the powers of removal under the Dublin regulation.
It's only under EU regs that asylum seekers can be deported to their EU entry country. If we weren't in the EU then we wouldn't have that option.
And as the article says, the proposal has been blocked after opposition from France and the UK.0 -
I think you're being naive. As we've seen from the flurry of recent activity, America is out to rinse all comers for everything it can get to offset its huge debt bubble whilst it still has the clout to do so. In this regard, thank God for lefty frothers - sensible libertarians aren't getting the picture.Richard_Tyndall said:
I suspect this is all based on the TTPI claims. Many on the Left have claimed that the TTPI deal between the EU and the US will force the NHS to allow privitisation. Consequently it is claimed as the end of the world as we know it.Casino_Royale said:
I don't know if I'm a usual suspect, and I haven't seen the details, but I agree on the surface of it it's dishonest and untrue.Richard_Nabavi said:
I look forward to the usual suspects exploding in anger at the dishonesty of the claim.MarqueeMark said:Interesting that Vote Leave is now focussing on "Vote Leave to save the NHS"..... Could that message finally be the one to motivate somewhat detatched Labour voters?
I can only assume Vote Leave have focus grouped the salience of what presses British voters buttons.
The money we send to the EU, the NHS, migration, control over our laws are probably the top ones.
I have no idea where this claim comes from as I must admit the whole TTPI saga seems impenetrable to me. But given how often it is claimed that the NHS is being privitised (basically every time anyone in Government dares to suggest that it might not be the most perfect health care system in the world) I am afraid I have little faith in the claims that TTPI will make any difference to how it is run.
To my mind this is simply another example of Project Fear that both sides seem to think is the only way to win.I doubt it has any more validity than 30 million immigrants or 50 million job losses.0 -
Why ask me? I'm a Leaver and clearly know nothing compared to the Oracle of Islington, including what Tory members think.
How would that position be improved by leaving the EU? This is a removal of an advantage of being in the EU, not the imposition of a disadvantage.AlastairMeeks said:Plato_Says said:Speaking of open goals for Leave haymaking. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/06/britain-could-be-left-unable-to-deport-asylum-seekers-under-eu-p/
Britain will be left unable to deport thousands of asylum seekers under plans being considered by the European Commission ahead of the EU referendum.
The European Commission is considering plans to scrap asylum rules that allow Britain to deport around 1,000 failed claimants a year. The rules, known as the Dublin regulation, oblige asylum seekers to stay in the first country that they arrive in.
The Commission is proposing scrapping them for a "fair" system which would distribute migrants across Europe, relieving pressure on Greece and Italy. Britain could opt out of the new federal system, but in doing so would lose the powers of removal under the Dublin regulation.
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Plato_Says said:
Why ask me? I'm a Leaver and clearly know nothing compared to the Oracle of Islington, including what Tory members think.
How would that position be improved by leaving the EU? This is a removal of an advantage of being in the EU, not the imposition of a disadvantage.AlastairMeeks said:Plato_Says said:Speaking of open goals for Leave haymaking. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/06/britain-could-be-left-unable-to-deport-asylum-seekers-under-eu-p/
Britain will be left unable to deport thousands of asylum seekers under plans being considered by the European Commission ahead of the EU referendum.
The European Commission is considering plans to scrap asylum rules that allow Britain to deport around 1,000 failed claimants a year. The rules, known as the Dublin regulation, oblige asylum seekers to stay in the first country that they arrive in.
The Commission is proposing scrapping them for a "fair" system which would distribute migrants across Europe, relieving pressure on Greece and Italy. Britain could opt out of the new federal system, but in doing so would lose the powers of removal under the Dublin regulation.
I ask you because you claimed it was an open goal for Leave. You clearly had a reason why you thought that. I can't imagine that you might have uncritically posted a link to an article without considering it or even reading it.0 -
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I ask you because you claimed it was an open goal for Leave. You clearly had a reason why you thought that. I can't imagine that you might have uncritically posted a link to an article without considering it or even reading it.AlastairMeeks said:Plato_Says said:Why ask me? I'm a Leaver and clearly know nothing compared to the Oracle of Islington, including what Tory members think.
How would that position be improved by leaving the EU? This is a removal of an advantage of being in the EU, not the imposition of a disadvantage.AlastairMeeks said:Plato_Says said:Speaking of open goals for Leave haymaking. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/06/britain-could-be-left-unable-to-deport-asylum-seekers-under-eu-p/
Britain will be left unable to deport thousands of asylum seekers under plans being considered by the European Commission ahead of the EU referendum.
The European Commission is considering plans to scrap asylum rules that allow Britain to deport around 1,000 failed claimants a year. The rules, known as the Dublin regulation, oblige asylum seekers to stay in the first country that they arrive in.
The Commission is proposing scrapping them for a "fair" system which would distribute migrants across Europe, relieving pressure on Greece and Italy. Britain could opt out of the new federal system, but in doing so would lose the powers of removal under the Dublin regulation.
I can well imagine you as a trainee supervisor asking that trainee to show that they've at least thought about the problem, even if their answer is palpably wrong as opposed to reading a case summary and not the case itself.0 -
Anti TT whatever it having been on about it damaging the NHS since long before the referendum was anything more than a gleam in Farage’s eye.0
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I'd be willing to bet that the majority of A-list and B-list actors (and Art Malik) have 'unusual' tax arrangements. Not only are they in the financially-complex film industry, but it it likely they get income (from films, plays, interviews etc) from many different countries and similarly complex expenses. Their accountants must be kept quite busy. It must be very tempting to use this to reduce your tax liabilities ...Scott_P said:@d4nf0x: And the actor in the new Labour PPB revealed as being part of a tax avoidance scheme in 3...2...
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ydoethur said:
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'Again I can't comment on the qualifications of your friends. All I can tell you is that in my school 50% of teachers have masters degrees or better in their subjects, including me as one of the two with full doctorates. '
Is that not partly a reflection of first degrees not being what they used to be as a result of grade inflation over the years? A 2.1 has since the late 80s become the 'norm' or average degree whereas in the days of more rigorous exam-based assessment most people ended up with a 2.2. I came across a guy of 30 last week who said he did an MA because not even a 1st stood out in the way that it did thirty or forty years ago.0 -
@AlastairMeeks You're right I think, the EU is a bit of a red herring on immigration etc...
Bleeding heart doesn't begin to cover some justice's interpretation of various human rights conventions:
R v Ex Parte Adan
This and other such crap is the real problem when it comes to trying to deport people.LORD SLYNN OF HADLEY said:
As is apparent from the brief facts I have stated Germany and France take a very different view from the United Kingdom as to who as a matter of interpretation can be the perpetrators of the prosecution, a fear of which is relied on by the applicant, though the German and French positions may themselves have differences. It seems thus that if there is no recognised state in the territory (Germany) or no government which tolerates or encourages the persecution (France) the respective government will send the claimants back even if acts are threatened by others which, if done by the state, would amount to persecution within the meaning of the Convention. "
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A 2015 Conservative candidate says the Zac Goldsmith campaign is racist:
Shazia Awan, a Tory activist who was the party's parliamentary candidate in Leigh in 2010 and the first Asian woman to address Conservative party conference in Wales, tells me she “was shocked” when she received one of Goldsmith’s leaflets aimed at the Tamil community (her parents are East African/Asian). “If any organisation was behaving in such a divisive, hateful and patronising way, they would be held to account and subject to serious scrutiny,” she says. “The Goldsmith campaign has shown itself to have a very ugly side . . . it is playing upon deep-rooted cultural sensitivities in the hope of making some fickle ill-deserved gains.”
http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/devolution/2016/04/racial-politics-zac-goldsmith-s-london-mayoral-campaign
Awan, who remains a Conservative but will find it “impossible” to back Goldsmith’s campaign, also decries the description of Khan as “radical”. She calls it a “shameless tactic to align Sadiq Khan with extremists in people’s minds, because he happens to be a British Muslim. It’s disgraceful and beyond comprehension.”0 -
Probably alot of sportsmen and women as well. If you have a limited and unknown period when you will be earning vast amounts, the push to minimise your tax must be quite high.JosiasJessop said:
I'd be willing to bet that the majority of A-list and B-list actors (and Art Malik) have 'unusual' tax arrangements. Not only are they in the financially-complex film industry, but it it likely they get income (from films, plays, interviews etc) from many different countries and similarly complex expenses. Their accountants must be kept quite busy. It must be very tempting to use this to reduce your tax liabilities ...Scott_P said:@d4nf0x: And the actor in the new Labour PPB revealed as being part of a tax avoidance scheme in 3...2...
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No Tax Haven donors with the SNP - no siree!
https://www.sundaypost.com/inside-the-sunday-edition/major-snp-donor-at-the-centre-of-tax-haven-row/0 -
I absolutely loved Green Wing. One of the funniest and most wicked comedies ever on TV.Theuniondivvie said:A special command performance just for PBers.
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Loans involving offshore companies were a favourite ruse, and precisely the sort of crap GAAR is designed to stop from memory.JonathanD said:
Probably alot of sportsmen and women as well. If you have a limited and unknown period when you will be earning vast amounts, the push to minimise your tax must be quite high.JosiasJessop said:
I'd be willing to bet that the majority of A-list and B-list actors (and Art Malik) have 'unusual' tax arrangements. Not only are they in the financially-complex film industry, but it it likely they get income (from films, plays, interviews etc) from many different countries and similarly complex expenses. Their accountants must be kept quite busy. It must be very tempting to use this to reduce your tax liabilities ...Scott_P said:@d4nf0x: And the actor in the new Labour PPB revealed as being part of a tax avoidance scheme in 3...2...
Anyone remember Gordo's hapless film tax breaks ?0 -
The telegraph were reporting that British Steel may be back from the dead. Any update on that?AlastairMeeks said:0 -
Mr. 565, could be wrong, but hasn't Khan described himself as a radical on multiple occasions?0
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Tom Harris isn't convinced
In fact the list of appalling individuals who seem strangely drawn to apply (or re-apply) for party membership in the last six months seems to get longer every day.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/06/jeremy-corbyn-seems-to-think-warm-words-are-enough-to-stop-anti/
When Labour’s London Mayoral candidate Sadiq Khan, says he’s embarrassed by Labour’s failure to combat anti-Semitism, and when Louise Ellman MP, chair of the Jewish Labour Movement, is reportedly facing hostility in her own local party, the debate is no longer about whether or not anti-Semitism exists within Labour; it is about how it can be combated.
...Sadly, McDonnell and his boss seem to believe that all they need to do is repeat warm words about not tolerating anti-Semitism or any other form of racism, and the party will look after itself.0 -
I believe "talent" (ie those in front of a camera or microphone) working in film and TV are explicitly excluded from IR35, so they can form and work under an a Personal Service Company and pay minimal salary and nice tax efficient dividends until the cows come home.Pulpstar said:
Loans involving offshore companies were a favourite ruse, and precisely the sort of crap GAAR is designed to stop from memory.JonathanD said:
Probably alot of sportsmen and women as well. If you have a limited and unknown period when you will be earning vast amounts, the push to minimise your tax must be quite high.JosiasJessop said:
I'd be willing to bet that the majority of A-list and B-list actors (and Art Malik) have 'unusual' tax arrangements. Not only are they in the financially-complex film industry, but it it likely they get income (from films, plays, interviews etc) from many different countries and similarly complex expenses. Their accountants must be kept quite busy. It must be very tempting to use this to reduce your tax liabilities ...Scott_P said:@d4nf0x: And the actor in the new Labour PPB revealed as being part of a tax avoidance scheme in 3...2...
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F1: rumour Alfa Romeo may buy Sauber.
It'd be odd having no Sauber team. But better they get bought than disappear, if that's the choice.0 -
Tories closing a Brownian loophole at last !
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/5674d898-ba04-11e5-bf7e-8a339b6f2164.html#axzz453sknwLA0 -
"Before you embark on a journey of revenge, dig two graves."Plato_Says said:0 -
About time too... that isn't a loophole, that's "Bungs for Luvvies"Pulpstar said:Tories closing a Brownian loophole at last !
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/5674d898-ba04-11e5-bf7e-8a339b6f2164.html#axzz453sknwLA0 -
Depends on the context, of course. Radical as a political term predates modern fundamentalist Islam by a couple of centuries.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. 565, could be wrong, but hasn't Khan described himself as a radical on multiple occasions?
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Hills now have Osborne as short as 7/4 on him ceasing to be Chancellor during 2016. In probability terms this equates to 64% that he makes it to the year end and 36% that he doesn't.0
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Feels about right. If anything, I'd make it slightly shorter.peter_from_putney said:Hills now have Osborne as short as 7/4 on him ceasing to be Chancellor during 2016. In probability terms this equates to 64% that he makes it to the year end and 36% that he doesn't.
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I seem to recal, when starting out in business around 50 years ago, being advised to set up a company and employ myself & my wife.Indigo said:
"Before you embark on a journey of revenge, dig two graves."Plato_Says said:0 -
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/mps-freeze-booze-prices-subsidised-7702322
In March, the Mirror revealed MPs and peers had boozed their way through £1.2m worth of bargain wine, champagne, beers and spirits in just two years.
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@AM - I suspect the reasonable timeframe is the thing the Government made most clear to Tata.
24th June or later, in fact.0 -
These crusades never end well...Indigo said:
"Before you embark on a journey of revenge, dig two graves."Plato_Says said:0 -
Looks like Guido may not be right:Plato_Says said:
http://waitingfortax.com/2016/04/06/a-small-homage-to-guido-fawkes/
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1500 (or so) of them. Works out to about £33 per each per month. I’d have to cut down to do that!Plato_Says said:http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/mps-freeze-booze-prices-subsidised-7702322
In March, the Mirror revealed MPs and peers had boozed their way through £1.2m worth of bargain wine, champagne, beers and spirits in just two years.
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My father had us all down as employees. All paid below NI threshold and didn't know we were even on the books.
His company accounts were Byzantine, took 2 yrs to work out WTF was going on/hidden after his death. His business solicitor turned out to be a sole trader conveyancer... We never wanted to know what the pair had been up to.OldKingCole said:
I seem to recal, when starting out in business around 50 years ago, being advised to set up a company and employ myself & my wife.Indigo said:
"Before you embark on a journey of revenge, dig two graves."Plato_Says said:0 -
Very possibly. My uncle told me as long ago as 2004 that I should do an MA because as far as he was concerned it was the new BA. (My uncle is one of the cleverest, as well as one of the nicest, men I know and went from joining an oil firm as a junior engineer in an office near Oxford to a seat on the board complete with very nice house in California before he retired. He handled the recruitment of in-house engineers, among other things, and increasingly he viewed the MSc/MEng as the benchmark.)justin124 said:
Is that not partly a reflection of first degrees not being what they used to be as a result of grade inflation over the years? A 2.1 has since the late 80s become the 'norm' or average degree whereas in the days of more rigorous exam-based assessment most people ended up with a 2.2. I came across a guy of 30 last week who said he did an MA because not even a 1st stood out in the way that it did thirty or forty years ago.ydoethur said:(Continued)
'Again I can't comment on the qualifications of your friends. All I can tell you is that in my school 50% of teachers have masters degrees or better in their subjects, including me as one of the two with full doctorates. '
The problem there being the Higher Education Act of 1992, coupled to a certain Caledonian gentleman's ambition to get 50% of us all to do degrees.
But it does tend to undermine the suggestion that teachers are all hopelessly badly qualified, which is why I raised it. Indeed, although Gove (quite rightly) mandated that all teachers should have at least a 2:2 in their subject before training, he was in many ways recognising a fait accompli (at any rate at secondary level).0 -
Isn't the issue that there are investor protections contained within TTIP?Richard_Tyndall said:
I suspect this is all based on the TTPI claims. Many on the Left have claimed that the TTPI deal between the EU and the US will force the NHS to allow privitisation. Consequently it is claimed as the end of the world as we know it.Casino_Royale said:
I don't know if I'm a usual suspect, and I haven't seen the details, but I agree on the surface of it it's dishonest and untrue.Richard_Nabavi said:
I look forward to the usual suspects exploding in anger at the dishonesty of the claim.MarqueeMark said:Interesting that Vote Leave is now focussing on "Vote Leave to save the NHS"..... Could that message finally be the one to motivate somewhat detatched Labour voters?
I can only assume Vote Leave have focus grouped the salience of what presses British voters buttons.
The money we send to the EU, the NHS, migration, control over our laws are probably the top ones.
I have no idea where this claim comes from as I must admit the whole TTPI saga seems impenetrable to me. But given how often it is claimed that the NHS is being privitised (basically every time anyone in Government dares to suggest that it might not be the most perfect health care system in the world) I am afraid I have little faith in the claims that TTPI will make any difference to how it is run.
To my mind this is simply another example of Project Fear that both sides seem to think is the only way to win.I doubt it has any more validity than 30 million immigrants or 50 million job losses.
If the NHS is thrown open to private providers then it cannot be taken back into state control once it has been 'sold off' - at least that seemed to be the gist of some claims I read in The Guardian.0 -
Works out about £8 a week per MP/peer. Hardly a p*ss up at the Palace of Westminster.Plato_Says said:http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/mps-freeze-booze-prices-subsidised-7702322
In March, the Mirror revealed MPs and peers had boozed their way through £1.2m worth of bargain wine, champagne, beers and spirits in just two years.
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That's not even a good night out!OldKingCole said:
1500 (or so) of them. Works out to about £33 per each per month. I’d have to cut down to do that!0 -
@Casino_Royale that would no doubt sound like a very reasonable timeframe to the Remain camp.
There are some red herrings around the Tata Steel story. For example, the pensions aspect, which has been much talked-about, is fixable if there really is an emergency (though employees and pensioners would have to bear some of the pain).
The question is whether the business is financially viable without the associated pension costs. If it is, a deal will be feasible. If it isn't, deferring tricky decisions beyond the referendum date looks like an obvious strategy for a Remain-supporting minister.0 -
Same with myself 25 years ago, but that was before Gordon Brown, the egregious Dawn Primarolo and the various idiocies they perpetrated to try and wring some more money out of closed companies. The Regulatory Impact Assessment for IR35 suggested it was going to make the country £800m or so a year, I doubt it has ever made any money in practise, since the number of people that paid was small, and HMRC has been losing cases on it ever since. Motto: When looking for low hanging fruit to mug, well funded, well informed, mostly arrogant and stroppy businessmen who mostly specialise in analysis and communication are not the best targetOldKingCole said:
I seem to recal, when starting out in business around 50 years ago, being advised to set up a company and employ myself & my wife.Indigo said:
"Before you embark on a journey of revenge, dig two graves."Plato_Says said:
(The RIA was a masterpiece of civil service ignorance that assumed several tens of thousands of freelance consultants of one sort or another could stop their business on a friday and do the same job as an employee of their client on a monday for exactly the same rate of pay)0 -
But it's Tata's decision, not the minister's. If they and their financial advisers don't think there's a genuine possibility of a deal, they'll pull the plug.AlastairMeeks said:@Casino_Royale that would no doubt sound like a very reasonable timeframe to the Remain camp.
There are some red herrings around the Tata Steel story. For example, the pensions aspect, which has been much talked-about, is fixable if there really is an emergency (though employees and pensioners would have to bear some of the pain).
The question is whether the business is financially viable without the associated pension costs. If it is, a deal will be feasible. If it isn't, deferring tricky decisions beyond the referendum date looks like an obvious strategy for a Remain-supporting minister.0 -
Why not set 2:1 as the minimum?ydoethur said:
Very possibly. My uncle told me as long ago as 2004 that I should do an MA because as far as he was concerned it was the new BA. (My uncle is one of the cleverest, as well as one of the nicest, men I know and went from joining an oil firm as a junior engineer in an office near Oxford to a seat on the board complete with very nice house in California before he retired. He handled the recruitment of in-house engineers, among other things, and increasingly he viewed the MSc/MEng as the benchmark.)justin124 said:
Is that not partly a reflection of first degrees not being what they used to be as a result of grade inflation over the years? A 2.1 has since the late 80s become the 'norm' or average degree whereas in the days of more rigorous exam-based assessment most people ended up with a 2.2. I came across a guy of 30 last week who said he did an MA because not even a 1st stood out in the way that it did thirty or forty years ago.ydoethur said:(Continued)
'Again I can't comment on the qualifications of your friends. All I can tell you is that in my school 50% of teachers have masters degrees or better in their subjects, including me as one of the two with full doctorates. '
The problem there being the Higher Education Act of 1992, coupled to a certain Caledonian gentleman's ambition to get 50% of us all to do degrees.
But it does tend to undermine the suggestion that teachers are all hopelessly badly qualified, which is why I raised it. Indeed, although Gove (quite rightly) mandated that all teachers should have at least a 2:2 in their subject before training, he was in many ways recognising a fait accompli (at any rate at secondary level).0 -
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Even the Europhile Liddington admits the NHS is still on the tablechestnut said:
Isn't the issue that there are investor protections contained within TTIP?Richard_Tyndall said:
I suspect this is all based on the TTPI claims. Many on the Left have claimed that the TTPI deal between the EU and the US will force the NHS to allow privitisation. Consequently it is claimed as the end of the world as we know it.Casino_Royale said:
I don't know if I'm a usual suspect, and I haven't seen the details, but I agree on the surface of it it's dishonest and untrue.Richard_Nabavi said:
I look forward to the usual suspects exploding in anger at the dishonesty of the claim.MarqueeMark said:Interesting that Vote Leave is now focussing on "Vote Leave to save the NHS"..... Could that message finally be the one to motivate somewhat detatched Labour voters?
I can only assume Vote Leave have focus grouped the salience of what presses British voters buttons.
The money we send to the EU, the NHS, migration, control over our laws are probably the top ones.
I have no idea where this claim comes from as I must admit the whole TTPI saga seems impenetrable to me. But given how often it is claimed that the NHS is being privitised (basically every time anyone in Government dares to suggest that it might not be the most perfect health care system in the world) I am afraid I have little faith in the claims that TTPI will make any difference to how it is run.
To my mind this is simply another example of Project Fear that both sides seem to think is the only way to win.I doubt it has any more validity than 30 million immigrants or 50 million job losses.
If the NHS is thrown open to private providers then it cannot be taken back into state control once it has been 'sold off' - at least that seemed to be the gist of some claims I read in The Guardian.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/09/01/ttip-eu-us-trade-deal_n_5747088.html0
