The normal tank races that they have are quite something, too.
Ballerinas on tanks? Why can't they be normal like us and stick with minor politicians.
The future Baroness Davidson didn't ride on an army tank AFAIK. She was photographed on an old WD surplus FV433 105mm, Selfpropelled, Abbot. Not a tank as any fule kno.
Twas rather nice when we were there this afternoon.
What is surprising is the unspoiled sea front with hotels all alongside the side and no shops / amusement arcades. Slightly more awkward was the lack of bars and cafes until the Tynedale hotel.
I am so pleased you enjoyed the lovely Victorian Promenade and of course the main shopping street is usually full of holidaymakers at this time of year, and they are very welcome
My son has his first 'shout' in the RNLI AWB boat launched from the boathouse on the Promenade at 8.30 last night, to rescue a yacht off the Great Orme and take it into Conwy harbour.
The question about 1950s from @NickPalmer was regarding multiculturalism and whether we were better off then or now wrt to what the immigrant cultures have brought to the table, not to do with women, their rights, homosexuality etc etc.
Those things have improved but that’s not because of mass immigration or multiculturalism, in fact the immigrants tend to be less progressive in those regards than boring old white English men
Hello there. Firstly, a clarification because checking on PT replies I see you thought my comment yesterday about Talking Pints on GB News was derogatory towards you. Was mortified. Did not mean it that way at all. It was a genuine recommendation of something on TV I thought you'd like. Farage is your favourite politician (you've said so many times) and his guest was indeed darts legend Bobby George (and we both like darts). But anyway. No biggie.
I just have a question regarding your "multicultural doesn't work" sentiment. The incomer cultures that you see as a net negative for life in England - in practice do you mainly mean Muslims or is it much wider than this?
Mainly Muslims
Thanks. That's what I thought. So you're more of an "Isam and the West don't mix" kinda guy than the full Enoch.
An insight into why Charlie Watts was one of the all time great drummers:
"'Get Off of My Cloud'
From: 'December's Children (And Everybody's)' (1965)
Like he does on "Honky Honk Women" (see No. 2 on our list of the Top 10 Charlie Watts Rolling Stones Songs), Watts totally dominates the Stones' second No. 1 single, which features one of the most unconventional drum structures ever employed in a Top 40 hit. Basically, Watts plays the same 4/4-beat-fill-4/4-beat-fill pattern throughout the song, guaranteeing you won't be able to escape the noisy upstairs neighbours, no matter how hard you try. That he keeps it up for the entire three minutes without once breaking the beat is a testament to his timeless talent."
Being able to repeat a simple pattern for 3 minutes without a mistake is a sign of timeless talent? How do we know he didn't record it once and loop it?
Is it a bad time to ask who it was who called them white boys playing black music badly?
It is worth pointing out that - sad as it may be as a reflection of the US - if it weren't for those English white boys then no one in the US outside of the black communities would have been listening to that black music.
Some of us white boys were listening to that black music even without them!
Wow that same picture of the empty sparkling water shelf!
Is it just because I was an enthusiastic leaver that I havent seen any empty shelves, apart from the water aisle in Waitrose, in any of the supermarkets I have visited?
Maybe it really was all about believing in Brexit!!! Remainers don't believe and see food shortages, spooky!
I'm an empty-shelf sceptic, like you. Though funnily enough, my personal shopper walks to our local Morrison's three or four times a week. Daily reports since empty-shelfgate started show no problem - until yesterday. Apparently, fresh fruit and veg severely depleted for the first time ever. No grapes, strawberries or spinach at all. However, this Remainer has not attributed this at all to Brexit (yet).
The Counterfeit Stones are good fun if the real thing don't tour anymore - I saw The Rolling Stones play once, at Wembley Arena I think. It was the 40 Licks tour and one of my mates was livid that Keith Richards sang a couple of songs, saying that would have only been alright if it was advertised as "The B-Sides and Out takes Tour"
I do like a drink. There are periods when I have a drink many days in a row. Why not! I enjoy it. But then that moment hits when you think, you know what? Perhaps having a drink every single day isn’t good for me, and is actually taking away some of the pleasure not just of the drink but of the things I’m doing while I have it.
So I have a few days off. A couple of weeks perhaps. Once I went 7 months. Just got out the habit, didn’t miss it. Some people missed having a drink with me. Others thought I had become significantly less of a knobhead.
Then one evening out I decided, yes it would be nice to have a drink tonight. The moment is right. Oh the sweet joy of those first pints of Guinness, I felt giddy even before imbibing. And the sweetest thing was knowing that I didn’t need a drink to live a full and enjoyable life, but that sometimes it does improve things or at least add a different dimension. But one thing I did resolve. And that was never again to waste a drink on something sub standard. Nor to drink in such a way that anyone could think me a knobhead for it.
I wonder whether you might consider the above but substitute “having a drink” for “reading and posting about Brexit”.
Wow that same picture of the empty sparkling water shelf!
Is it just because I was an enthusiastic leaver that I havent seen any empty shelves, apart from the water aisle in Waitrose, in any of the supermarkets I have visited?
Maybe it really was all about believing in Brexit!!! Remainers don't believe and see food shortages, spooky!
I'm an empty-shelf sceptic, like you. Though funnily enough, my personal shopper walks to our local Morrison's three or four times a week. Daily reports since empty-shelfgate started show no problem - until yesterday. Apparently, fresh fruit and veg severely depleted for the first time ever. No grapes, strawberries or spinach at all. However, this Remainer has not attributed this at all to Brexit (yet).
Anyway, got to play a few now. Has to be done. Used to LOVE this band when I was young and still do now I'm old.
Yeah I was utterly obsessed by the Stones when I was a teenager. So gutted to hear about Charlie, always my favourite member of the band. Just such a fucking gent. I was listening to Let it Bleed only this afternoon, probably not a month goes by that I don't listen to that album. Really sad now.
That's a great record. When I first saw them in 82, after being a mega fan for years, the first bars of the intro song Under My Thumb (unwoke lyrics or what!) boomed out, Jagger came prancing on in baseball gear, and I started blubbering in front of who I was with.
My wife always loves to recount the story of the first time I took her to see Bruce Springsteen. We were down towards the front at Milton Keynes Bowl and she was surrounded by all these 6 foot blokes. The first strains of harmonica for The River sang out and suddenly everyone around her is in tears. Me included.
Music is a strange and wonderous thing.
It is yes. Never seen the Boss. Wish I had.
"Well you can tell her there's a hot sun beating on a black top ..."
🙂
I am up to 7 times now. My wife a couple more as I missed too many concerts we had tickets for because i was offshore.
In fact I have a long list of bands I missed because I was offshore and she went with friends instead.
The 1950s couldn't have been as bad as some people like to say for non-white people, because so many of them voluntarily decided to move here during that time. In fact, many of them probably moved to the UK because — at that time — it was a far more liberal and open-minded place than the places they were leaving. The Caribbean, for instance, would have more far more socially conservative in the 1950s than the UK. The same would have been true for most places in south Asia.
Wow that same picture of the empty sparkling water shelf!
Is it just because I was an enthusiastic leaver that I havent seen any empty shelves, apart from the water aisle in Waitrose, in any of the supermarkets I have visited?
Maybe it really was all about believing in Brexit!!! Remainers don't believe and see food shortages, spooky!
I'm an empty-shelf sceptic, like you. Though funnily enough, my personal shopper walks to our local Morrison's three or four times a week. Daily reports since empty-shelfgate started show no problem - until yesterday. Apparently, fresh fruit and veg severely depleted for the first time ever. No grapes, strawberries or spinach at all. However, this Remainer has not attributed this at all to Brexit (yet).
If the remain campaign had suggested we’d have no Nando chicken or McD milk shakes, who’d have believed it?
An insight into why Charlie Watts was one of the all time great drummers:
"'Get Off of My Cloud'
From: 'December's Children (And Everybody's)' (1965)
Like he does on "Honky Honk Women" (see No. 2 on our list of the Top 10 Charlie Watts Rolling Stones Songs), Watts totally dominates the Stones' second No. 1 single, which features one of the most unconventional drum structures ever employed in a Top 40 hit. Basically, Watts plays the same 4/4-beat-fill-4/4-beat-fill pattern throughout the song, guaranteeing you won't be able to escape the noisy upstairs neighbours, no matter how hard you try. That he keeps it up for the entire three minutes without once breaking the beat is a testament to his timeless talent."
Being able to repeat a simple pattern for 3 minutes without a mistake is a sign of timeless talent? How do we know he didn't record it once and loop it?
Is it a bad time to ask who it was who called them white boys playing black music badly?
It is worth pointing out that - sad as it may be as a reflection of the US - if it weren't for those English white boys then no one in the US outside of the black communities would have been listening to that black music.
I think both led zeppelin and the doors were doing a more authentic version of it.
The 1950s couldn't have been as bad as some people like to say for non-white people, because so many of them voluntarily decided to move here during that time. In fact, many of them probably moved to the UK because — at that time — it was a far more liberal and open-minded place than the places they were leaving. The Caribbean, for instance, would have more far more socially conservative in the 1950s than the UK. The same would have been true for most places in south Asia.
Ach. There was another great drummer and another absolute gent.
Indeed. His books are worth reading as well.
Charlie is getting plaudits for playing a steady beat for 60 years.
Neil completely reinvented his whole technique half way through his career.
Nah Charlie was a great drummer and brought the jazz sensibility to his rock and roll playing. Much like Ginger. Neil was undoubtedly in a class of his own but it is not an either/or situation. They were both great.
Great drumming is seriously underrated. Just look at John Bonham, another remarkable drummer who turned banging a stick into a true art form.
Ah, I knew you were a man of taste! Bonzo (not to be confused with a certain politician) was probably the greatest rock drummer of all time. Like Charlie he was heavily influenced by jazz.
The question about 1950s from @NickPalmer was regarding multiculturalism and whether we were better off then or now wrt to what the immigrant cultures have brought to the table, not to do with women, their rights, homosexuality etc etc.
Those things have improved but that’s not because of mass immigration or multiculturalism, in fact the immigrants tend to be less progressive in those regards than boring old white English men
Hello there. Firstly, a clarification because checking on PT replies I see you thought my comment yesterday about Talking Pints on GB News was derogatory towards you. Was mortified. Did not mean it that way at all. It was a genuine recommendation of something on TV I thought you'd like. Farage is your favourite politician (you've said so many times) and his guest was indeed darts legend Bobby George (and we both like darts). But anyway. No biggie.
I just have a question regarding your "multicultural doesn't work" sentiment. The incomer cultures that you see as a net negative for life in England - in practice do you mainly mean Muslims or is it much wider than this?
Mainly Muslims
Thanks. That's what I thought. So you're more of an "Isam and the West don't mix" kinda guy than the full Enoch.
Even two of the founding fathers of Multiculturalism, Roy Jenkins and Lord Lester, admitted they hadn't really thought it through. They were amazed that Muslims took their religion so seriously. I think they mistakenly thought Muslims were so desperate to live in the UK that they would renounce their beliefs, the way so many Westerners have, and become secularists, but the problem is a great many, probably a majority, don't
I say "problem" as "problem for smooth assimilation and peaceful society", not that their beliefs are a problem.
But do you honestly think that, if in the 60s when Multiculuralism and mass immigration were being debated, you would have shown people 7/7, Lee Rigby, BLM marches etc, there would be many people saying"Bring it on"? They would have called you a scaremongering racist
Enoch thought the only way out of the mess, if repatriation didn't happen, was inter racial marriage, and in terms of the immigrants from the caribbean, that has happened. The Windrush immigrants were already practically Brits abroad anyway, the only difference was their colour, which is only really a problem because it is a fault line when tensions rise, in overcrowded, poor sections of society when people are scrapping for resources
Twas rather nice when we were there this afternoon.
What is surprising is the unspoiled sea front with hotels all alongside the side and no shops / amusement arcades. Slightly more awkward was the lack of bars and cafes until the Tynedale hotel.
I am so pleased you enjoyed the lovely Victorian Promenade and of course the main shopping street is usually full of holidaymakers at this time of year, and they are very welcome
My son has his first 'shout' in the RNLI AWB boat launched from the boathouse on the Promenade at 8.30 last night, to rescue a yacht off the Great Orme and take it into Conwy harbour.
In which case you can also have my wife's sole suggestion for the day, the lifeboat house needs a sign / poster saying where the RNLI shop is.
Wow that same picture of the empty sparkling water shelf!
Is it just because I was an enthusiastic leaver that I havent seen any empty shelves, apart from the water aisle in Waitrose, in any of the supermarkets I have visited?
Maybe it really was all about believing in Brexit!!! Remainers don't believe and see food shortages, spooky!
I'm an empty-shelf sceptic, like you. Though funnily enough, my personal shopper walks to our local Morrison's three or four times a week. Daily reports since empty-shelfgate started show no problem - until yesterday. Apparently, fresh fruit and veg severely depleted for the first time ever. No grapes, strawberries or spinach at all. However, this Remainer has not attributed this at all to Brexit (yet).
I think I know why Waitrose are having issues with bottled water. I went in yesterday and a couple of women had bought an entire trolley worth and nothing else. It was all I could do to stop myself quipping about taps etc... So were they topping up from another store? Or is there a run on bottled water and they are scouring the shops? Is there a Covid scare about tap water?
The question about 1950s from @NickPalmer was regarding multiculturalism and whether we were better off then or now wrt to what the immigrant cultures have brought to the table, not to do with women, their rights, homosexuality etc etc.
Those things have improved but that’s not because of mass immigration or multiculturalism, in fact the immigrants tend to be less progressive in those regards than boring old white English men
Hello there. Firstly, a clarification because checking on PT replies I see you thought my comment yesterday about Talking Pints on GB News was derogatory towards you. Was mortified. Did not mean it that way at all. It was a genuine recommendation of something on TV I thought you'd like. Farage is your favourite politician (you've said so many times) and his guest was indeed darts legend Bobby George (and we both like darts). But anyway. No biggie.
I just have a question regarding your "multicultural doesn't work" sentiment. The incomer cultures that you see as a net negative for life in England - in practice do you mainly mean Muslims or is it much wider than this?
Mainly Muslims
Thanks. That's what I thought. So you're more of an "Isam and the West don't mix" kinda guy than the full Enoch.
Nah Charlie was a great drummer and brought the jazz sensibility to his rock and roll playing. Much like Ginger. Neil was undoubtedly in a class of his own but it is not an either/or situation. They were both great.
Great drumming is seriously underrated. Just look at John Bonham, another remarkable drummer who turned banging a stick into a true art form.
Phil Collins
[ducks]
Nothing to duck for. Phil Collins is/was a great drummer. Some of the polyrhythms and time sig changes he uses in early Genesis stuff is outstanding.
Twas rather nice when we were there this afternoon.
What is surprising is the unspoiled sea front with hotels all alongside the side and no shops / amusement arcades. Slightly more awkward was the lack of bars and cafes until the Tynedale hotel.
I am so pleased you enjoyed the lovely Victorian Promenade and of course the main shopping street is usually full of holidaymakers at this time of year, and they are very welcome
My son has his first 'shout' in the RNLI AWB boat launched from the boathouse on the Promenade at 8.30 last night, to rescue a yacht off the Great Orme and take it into Conwy harbour.
In which case you can also have my wife's sole suggestion for the day, the lifeboat house needs a sign / poster saying where the RNLI shop is.
Yes that is a good point and it is in a street leading off the Promenade
The boathouse itself used to take visitor groups but of course since covid only crew are allowed into the boathouse area, though donation boxes are on the perimeter
At least UK, Germany and France were in unison and Biden is on the hook for this if it goes wrong
No, the UK is firmly on the hook for having a PM who is unfit for office and is seen by the Americans as an absolute joke. The UK, Germany and France and the non-US NATO members are collectively on the hook for having allowed our defence capability to become completely dependent on the US. It is not just Biden's disgrace, it disgraces us all.
We didn't 'allow' it to happen. It has been that way since WW2.
Not entirely so. Whilst we belatedly had US support, the Falklands was a UK operation that would be impossible now. The 1980s UK and French military would have been able to take over from the US in Afghanistan to ensure a more orderly exit.
Nothing to duck for. Phil Collins is/was a great drummer. Some of the polyrhythms and time sig changes he uses in early Genesis stuff is outstanding.
There is a 'tribute band' called The Musical Box
Some years ago they toured The Lamb Lies down on Broadway with all the original slides, and a balding left-handed drummer who looked and sounded exactly like Phil Collins
Well, that's one way to build cooperation....contradict the host.....
I am sure there are many in the EU who would like to build a friendly relationship with us but sadly there is so much bitterness and almost a thirst for vengeance, that they just cannot move on
The question about 1950s from @NickPalmer was regarding multiculturalism and whether we were better off then or now wrt to what the immigrant cultures have brought to the table, not to do with women, their rights, homosexuality etc etc.
Those things have improved but that’s not because of mass immigration or multiculturalism, in fact the immigrants tend to be less progressive in those regards than boring old white English men
Hello there. Firstly, a clarification because checking on PT replies I see you thought my comment yesterday about Talking Pints on GB News was derogatory towards you. Was mortified. Did not mean it that way at all. It was a genuine recommendation of something on TV I thought you'd like. Farage is your favourite politician (you've said so many times) and his guest was indeed darts legend Bobby George (and we both like darts). But anyway. No biggie.
I just have a question regarding your "multicultural doesn't work" sentiment. The incomer cultures that you see as a net negative for life in England - in practice do you mainly mean Muslims or is it much wider than this?
Mainly Muslims
Thanks. That's what I thought. So you're more of an "Isam and the West don't mix" kinda guy than the full Enoch.
Even two of the founding fathers of Multiculturalism, Roy Jenkins and Lord Lester, admitted they hadn't really thought it through. They were amazed that Muslims took their religion so seriously. I think they mistakenly thought Muslims were so desperate to live in the UK that they would renounce their beliefs, the way so many Westerners have, and become secularists, but the problem is a great many, probably a majority, don't
I say "problem" as "problem for smooth assimilation and peaceful society", not that their beliefs are a problem.
But do you honestly think that, if in the 60s when Multiculuralism and mass immigration were being debated, you would have shown people 7/7, Lee Rigby, BLM marches etc, there would be many people saying"Bring it on"? They would have called you a scaremongering racist
Enoch thought the only way out of the mess, if repatriation didn't happen, was inter racial marriage, and in terms of the immigrants from the caribbean, that has happened. The Windrush immigrants were already practically Brits abroad anyway, the only difference was their colour, which is only really a problem because it is a fault line when tensions rise, in overcrowded, poor sections of society when people are scrapping for resources
That’s a very interesting comment… and if I wasn’t on my phone, I’d post an interesting reply.
The question about 1950s from @NickPalmer was regarding multiculturalism and whether we were better off then or now wrt to what the immigrant cultures have brought to the table, not to do with women, their rights, homosexuality etc etc.
Those things have improved but that’s not because of mass immigration or multiculturalism, in fact the immigrants tend to be less progressive in those regards than boring old white English men
Hello there. Firstly, a clarification because checking on PT replies I see you thought my comment yesterday about Talking Pints on GB News was derogatory towards you. Was mortified. Did not mean it that way at all. It was a genuine recommendation of something on TV I thought you'd like. Farage is your favourite politician (you've said so many times) and his guest was indeed darts legend Bobby George (and we both like darts). But anyway. No biggie.
I just have a question regarding your "multicultural doesn't work" sentiment. The incomer cultures that you see as a net negative for life in England - in practice do you mainly mean Muslims or is it much wider than this?
Mainly Muslims
Thanks. That's what I thought. So you're more of an "Isam and the West don't mix" kinda guy than the full Enoch.
Even two of the founding fathers of Multiculturalism, Roy Jenkins and Lord Lester, admitted they hadn't really thought it through. They were amazed that Muslims took their religion so seriously. I think they mistakenly thought Muslims were so desperate to live in the UK that they would renounce their beliefs, the way so many Westerners have, and become secularists, but the problem is a great many, probably a majority, don't
I say "problem" as "problem for smooth assimilation and peaceful society", not that their beliefs are a problem.
But do you honestly think that, if in the 60s when Multiculuralism and mass immigration were being debated, you would have shown people 7/7, Lee Rigby, BLM marches etc, there would be many people saying"Bring it on"? They would have called you a scaremongering racist
Enoch thought the only way out of the mess, if repatriation didn't happen, was inter racial marriage, and in terms of the immigrants from the caribbean, that has happened. The Windrush immigrants were already practically Brits abroad anyway, the only difference was their colour, which is only really a problem because it is a fault line when tensions rise, in overcrowded, poor sections of society when people are scrapping for resources
Thank you for the interesting elaboration. TBC over the next few weeks and months. I consider it my mission to move you on this. My only request is that if I do, you don't pretend I haven't.
Wow that same picture of the empty sparkling water shelf!
Is it just because I was an enthusiastic leaver that I havent seen any empty shelves, apart from the water aisle in Waitrose, in any of the supermarkets I have visited?
Maybe it really was all about believing in Brexit!!! Remainers don't believe and see food shortages, spooky!
I'm an empty-shelf sceptic, like you. Though funnily enough, my personal shopper walks to our local Morrison's three or four times a week. Daily reports since empty-shelfgate started show no problem - until yesterday. Apparently, fresh fruit and veg severely depleted for the first time ever. No grapes, strawberries or spinach at all. However, this Remainer has not attributed this at all to Brexit (yet).
I think I know why Waitrose are having issues with bottled water. I went in yesterday and a couple of women had bought an entire trolley worth and nothing else. It was all I could do to stop myself quipping about taps etc... So were they topping up from another store? Or is there a run on bottled water and they are scouring the shops? Is there a Covid scare about tap water?
Invest in water, they’re not making any more of it *.
There is a lot of concern/confusion about vaccine effectiveness against the delta variant. How effective are the vaccines against Delta & how to interpret real-world observational data? So much misinformation is being circulated, so this thread brings key data together. Thread(1/n)
EXC: Speaking to MPs earlier on a private call, Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab gave many more details of the UK plan for post than emerged in public. Here's what he told them:
It is lovely. I only got six blisters on my coastal walk. Two of them were in Llandudno. I walked to the town along the beach in trainers, then decided to walk the road around the headland. By the time I got to the eastern side, the sand in my shoes had formed little humps under my foot arch, and I had two linear blisters. My own stupid fault.
And a couple of years ago, my sister organised a coach trip to Llandudno to celebrate her fiftieth. A great day.
There is something about Llandudno that the other North Wales resorts don't have. Even Bangor, which I quite like (I think Bangor counts as north coast?).
An insight into why Charlie Watts was one of the all time great drummers:
"'Get Off of My Cloud'
From: 'December's Children (And Everybody's)' (1965)
Like he does on "Honky Honk Women" (see No. 2 on our list of the Top 10 Charlie Watts Rolling Stones Songs), Watts totally dominates the Stones' second No. 1 single, which features one of the most unconventional drum structures ever employed in a Top 40 hit. Basically, Watts plays the same 4/4-beat-fill-4/4-beat-fill pattern throughout the song, guaranteeing you won't be able to escape the noisy upstairs neighbours, no matter how hard you try. That he keeps it up for the entire three minutes without once breaking the beat is a testament to his timeless talent."
Being able to repeat a simple pattern for 3 minutes without a mistake is a sign of timeless talent? How do we know he didn't record it once and loop it?
Is it a bad time to ask who it was who called them white boys playing black music badly?
It is worth pointing out that - sad as it may be as a reflection of the US - if it weren't for those English white boys then no one in the US outside of the black communities would have been listening to that black music.
I think both led zeppelin and the doors were doing a more authentic version of it.
Well, that's one way to build cooperation....contradict the host.....
I am sure there are many in the EU who would like to build a friendly relationship with us but sadly there is so much bitterness and almost a thirst for vengeance, that they just cannot move on
I thought you were talking about Scott for a moment there
"Graham has taken a similar stance [on Labour - union links], asserting that “the obsession with Labour has got to stop”. But she added there needed to be a balance and she wouldn’t be afraid to speak up if the party wasn’t working in the union’s best interests. “If we’re saying that we’re not a backseat driver in the party, are we seriously suggesting we’re going to give our members’ money to Labour and not ask them what they’re going to do with it?” "
An insight into why Charlie Watts was one of the all time great drummers:
"'Get Off of My Cloud'
From: 'December's Children (And Everybody's)' (1965)
Like he does on "Honky Honk Women" (see No. 2 on our list of the Top 10 Charlie Watts Rolling Stones Songs), Watts totally dominates the Stones' second No. 1 single, which features one of the most unconventional drum structures ever employed in a Top 40 hit. Basically, Watts plays the same 4/4-beat-fill-4/4-beat-fill pattern throughout the song, guaranteeing you won't be able to escape the noisy upstairs neighbours, no matter how hard you try. That he keeps it up for the entire three minutes without once breaking the beat is a testament to his timeless talent."
Being able to repeat a simple pattern for 3 minutes without a mistake is a sign of timeless talent? How do we know he didn't record it once and loop it?
Is it a bad time to ask who it was who called them white boys playing black music badly?
It is worth pointing out that - sad as it may be as a reflection of the US - if it weren't for those English white boys then no one in the US outside of the black communities would have been listening to that black music.
I think both led zeppelin and the doors were doing a more authentic version of it.
Zeppelin not for me but I like The Doors a lot.
Not saying that led zeppelin were good, but how much of their stuff was inspired plagiarism of the likes of Robert Johnson, blind Willie Johnson, h. Wolf etc
The question about 1950s from @NickPalmer was regarding multiculturalism and whether we were better off then or now wrt to what the immigrant cultures have brought to the table, not to do with women, their rights, homosexuality etc etc.
Those things have improved but that’s not because of mass immigration or multiculturalism, in fact the immigrants tend to be less progressive in those regards than boring old white English men
Hello there. Firstly, a clarification because checking on PT replies I see you thought my comment yesterday about Talking Pints on GB News was derogatory towards you. Was mortified. Did not mean it that way at all. It was a genuine recommendation of something on TV I thought you'd like. Farage is your favourite politician (you've said so many times) and his guest was indeed darts legend Bobby George (and we both like darts). But anyway. No biggie.
I just have a question regarding your "multicultural doesn't work" sentiment. The incomer cultures that you see as a net negative for life in England - in practice do you mainly mean Muslims or is it much wider than this?
Mainly Muslims
Thanks. That's what I thought. So you're more of an "Isam and the West don't mix" kinda guy than the full Enoch.
Even two of the founding fathers of Multiculturalism, Roy Jenkins and Lord Lester, admitted they hadn't really thought it through. They were amazed that Muslims took their religion so seriously. I think they mistakenly thought Muslims were so desperate to live in the UK that they would renounce their beliefs, the way so many Westerners have, and become secularists, but the problem is a great many, probably a majority, don't
I say "problem" as "problem for smooth assimilation and peaceful society", not that their beliefs are a problem.
But do you honestly think that, if in the 60s when Multiculuralism and mass immigration were being debated, you would have shown people 7/7, Lee Rigby, BLM marches etc, there would be many people saying"Bring it on"? They would have called you a scaremongering racist
Enoch thought the only way out of the mess, if repatriation didn't happen, was inter racial marriage, and in terms of the immigrants from the caribbean, that has happened. The Windrush immigrants were already practically Brits abroad anyway, the only difference was their colour, which is only really a problem because it is a fault line when tensions rise, in overcrowded, poor sections of society when people are scrapping for resources
British Indians have a lot of interracial marriages. Case in point right here. Quite a few of my cousins as well have married non-Indians. One of my uncles led the way and dealt with the bullshit 30 years ago and now it's extremely uncontroversial. I think if my grandma was alive she wouldn't be speaking to me but that's her narrow minded attitude and her problem. That generation is dying off though and so are those old school ideas.
An insight into why Charlie Watts was one of the all time great drummers:
"'Get Off of My Cloud'
From: 'December's Children (And Everybody's)' (1965)
Like he does on "Honky Honk Women" (see No. 2 on our list of the Top 10 Charlie Watts Rolling Stones Songs), Watts totally dominates the Stones' second No. 1 single, which features one of the most unconventional drum structures ever employed in a Top 40 hit. Basically, Watts plays the same 4/4-beat-fill-4/4-beat-fill pattern throughout the song, guaranteeing you won't be able to escape the noisy upstairs neighbours, no matter how hard you try. That he keeps it up for the entire three minutes without once breaking the beat is a testament to his timeless talent."
Being able to repeat a simple pattern for 3 minutes without a mistake is a sign of timeless talent? How do we know he didn't record it once and loop it?
Is it a bad time to ask who it was who called them white boys playing black music badly?
It is worth pointing out that - sad as it may be as a reflection of the US - if it weren't for those English white boys then no one in the US outside of the black communities would have been listening to that black music.
I think both led zeppelin and the doors were doing a more authentic version of it.
Zeppelin not for me but I like The Doors a lot.
I like them all. I'd say that from c.'65 the Stones weren't really trying to reproduce an authentic version of black music but make something of their own that was (at times heavily) influenced by it. From Beggar's Banquet through to Exile on Main Street I think represents the acme of white boy rock and roll. I kinda of always think Exile is the big one but been going through a Sticky Fingers phase, some cracking atmospheric songs.
What on earth is this "Extensive sampling of ballot papers"?
How is that allowed?
how would they know how much ballot stuffing is required if they don't sample?
Just kidding, I'm sure its legitimate, even if I don't understand it.
And for those that where wondering, the Unite Union political fund, according to its last published statement, has an annual income of £7.2 million with 918,522 of its 1,277,491 members contributing and had £16.5 million in the bank ready to be spent on whatever political campaign the new leader wishes.
It is lovely. I only got six blisters on my coastal walk. Two of them were in Llandudno. I walked to the town along the beach in trainers, then decided to walk the road around the headland. By the time I got to the eastern side, the sand in my shoes had formed little humps under my foot arch, and I had two linear blisters. My own stupid fault.
And a couple of years ago, my sister organised a coach trip to Llandudno to celebrate her fiftieth. A great day.
There is something about Llandudno that the other North Wales resorts don't have. Even Bangor, which I quite like (I think Bangor counts as north coast?).
Llandudno is much more affluent than Bangor.
Bangor should be beautiful, a Cathedral city & a University town.
But, it has a really ugly shopping centre, with lots of rundown & closed shops. The main shopping street is covered in litter.
It should not be, but it is a depressing place.
On the North Coast, I think only Caernarfon beats Llandudno.
It is lovely. I only got six blisters on my coastal walk. Two of them were in Llandudno. I walked to the town along the beach in trainers, then decided to walk the road around the headland. By the time I got to the eastern side, the sand in my shoes had formed little humps under my foot arch, and I had two linear blisters. My own stupid fault.
And a couple of years ago, my sister organised a coach trip to Llandudno to celebrate her fiftieth. A great day.
There is something about Llandudno that the other North Wales resorts don't have. Even Bangor, which I quite like (I think Bangor counts as north coast?).
There is something about Llandudno that most coastal towns don't have. It's fun - it has its pier - but its also classy. And the setting, with the views off to the mountains, is spectacular.
I had one of the happiest days of my life in Llandudno. The wife and me and two young girls aged 3 and nearly 2. A glorious sunny day. Fun on the pier, playing on the beach. A fish and chip supper. I remember crying with happiness on the way home at how absolutely perfect life was.
Well, that's one way to build cooperation....contradict the host.....
I am sure there are many in the EU who would like to build a friendly relationship with us but sadly there is so much bitterness and almost a thirst for vengeance, that they just cannot move on
I thought you were talking about Scott for a moment there
The question about 1950s from @NickPalmer was regarding multiculturalism and whether we were better off then or now wrt to what the immigrant cultures have brought to the table, not to do with women, their rights, homosexuality etc etc.
Those things have improved but that’s not because of mass immigration or multiculturalism, in fact the immigrants tend to be less progressive in those regards than boring old white English men
Hello there. Firstly, a clarification because checking on PT replies I see you thought my comment yesterday about Talking Pints on GB News was derogatory towards you. Was mortified. Did not mean it that way at all. It was a genuine recommendation of something on TV I thought you'd like. Farage is your favourite politician (you've said so many times) and his guest was indeed darts legend Bobby George (and we both like darts). But anyway. No biggie.
I just have a question regarding your "multicultural doesn't work" sentiment. The incomer cultures that you see as a net negative for life in England - in practice do you mainly mean Muslims or is it much wider than this?
Mainly Muslims
Thanks. That's what I thought. So you're more of an "Isam and the West don't mix" kinda guy than the full Enoch.
Even two of the founding fathers of Multiculturalism, Roy Jenkins and Lord Lester, admitted they hadn't really thought it through. They were amazed that Muslims took their religion so seriously. I think they mistakenly thought Muslims were so desperate to live in the UK that they would renounce their beliefs, the way so many Westerners have, and become secularists, but the problem is a great many, probably a majority, don't
I say "problem" as "problem for smooth assimilation and peaceful society", not that their beliefs are a problem.
But do you honestly think that, if in the 60s when Multiculuralism and mass immigration were being debated, you would have shown people 7/7, Lee Rigby, BLM marches etc, there would be many people saying"Bring it on"? They would have called you a scaremongering racist
Enoch thought the only way out of the mess, if repatriation didn't happen, was inter racial marriage, and in terms of the immigrants from the caribbean, that has happened. The Windrush immigrants were already practically Brits abroad anyway, the only difference was their colour, which is only really a problem because it is a fault line when tensions rise, in overcrowded, poor sections of society when people are scrapping for resources
British Indians have a lot of interracial marriages. Case in point right here. Quite a few of my cousins as well have married non-Indians. One of my uncles led the way and dealt with the bullshit 30 years ago and now it's extremely uncontroversial. I think if my grandma was alive she wouldn't be speaking to me but that's her narrow minded attitude and her problem. That generation is dying off though and so are those old school ideas.
Sweeping generalisation but the Indian community just seems more integrated and happy than the Pakistani. As I said, sweeping generalisation. Is Islam the issue? Certainly the more hard line Islam interpretations seem antithetical to the British way of life in the 21st century. I’m sure this is unfair on 95% of Muslims in the U.K., but we only seem to hear from the 5%, and they just seem not to like it here.
The question about 1950s from @NickPalmer was regarding multiculturalism and whether we were better off then or now wrt to what the immigrant cultures have brought to the table, not to do with women, their rights, homosexuality etc etc.
Those things have improved but that’s not because of mass immigration or multiculturalism, in fact the immigrants tend to be less progressive in those regards than boring old white English men
Hello there. Firstly, a clarification because checking on PT replies I see you thought my comment yesterday about Talking Pints on GB News was derogatory towards you. Was mortified. Did not mean it that way at all. It was a genuine recommendation of something on TV I thought you'd like. Farage is your favourite politician (you've said so many times) and his guest was indeed darts legend Bobby George (and we both like darts). But anyway. No biggie.
I just have a question regarding your "multicultural doesn't work" sentiment. The incomer cultures that you see as a net negative for life in England - in practice do you mainly mean Muslims or is it much wider than this?
Mainly Muslims
Thanks. That's what I thought. So you're more of an "Isam and the West don't mix" kinda guy than the full Enoch.
Even two of the founding fathers of Multiculturalism, Roy Jenkins and Lord Lester, admitted they hadn't really thought it through. They were amazed that Muslims took their religion so seriously. I think they mistakenly thought Muslims were so desperate to live in the UK that they would renounce their beliefs, the way so many Westerners have, and become secularists, but the problem is a great many, probably a majority, don't
I say "problem" as "problem for smooth assimilation and peaceful society", not that their beliefs are a problem.
But do you honestly think that, if in the 60s when Multiculuralism and mass immigration were being debated, you would have shown people 7/7, Lee Rigby, BLM marches etc, there would be many people saying"Bring it on"? They would have called you a scaremongering racist
Enoch thought the only way out of the mess, if repatriation didn't happen, was inter racial marriage, and in terms of the immigrants from the caribbean, that has happened. The Windrush immigrants were already practically Brits abroad anyway, the only difference was their colour, which is only really a problem because it is a fault line when tensions rise, in overcrowded, poor sections of society when people are scrapping for resources
British Indians have a lot of interracial marriages. Case in point right here. Quite a few of my cousins as well have married non-Indians. One of my uncles led the way and dealt with the bullshit 30 years ago and now it's extremely uncontroversial. I think if my grandma was alive she wouldn't be speaking to me but that's her narrow minded attitude and her problem. That generation is dying off though and so are those old school ideas.
I waited until after my grandmother died to announce I wasn't having an arranged marriage.
In her defence she wasn't bigoted, she was fine with interracial/interfaith marriages for other people just not for her only grandchild.
What on earth is this "Extensive sampling of ballot papers"?
How is that allowed?
how would they know how much ballot stuffing is required if they don't sample?
Just kidding, I'm sure its legitimate, even if I don't understand it.
And for those that where wondering, the Unite Union political fund, according to its last published statement, has an annual income of £7.2 million with 918,522 of its 1,277,491 members contributing and had £16.5 million in the bank ready to be spent on whatever political campaign the new leader wishes.
And Labour are close to bankrupt iirc. So that money could be well useful.
I gather Graham is a top-notch industrial negotiator. I wonder what she will negotiate from Starmer for some of the money?
It is lovely. I only got six blisters on my coastal walk. Two of them were in Llandudno. I walked to the town along the beach in trainers, then decided to walk the road around the headland. By the time I got to the eastern side, the sand in my shoes had formed little humps under my foot arch, and I had two linear blisters. My own stupid fault.
And a couple of years ago, my sister organised a coach trip to Llandudno to celebrate her fiftieth. A great day.
There is something about Llandudno that the other North Wales resorts don't have. Even Bangor, which I quite like (I think Bangor counts as north coast?).
There is something about Llandudno that most coastal towns don't have. It's fun - it has its pier - but its also classy. And the setting, with the views off to the mountains, is spectacular.
I had one of the happiest days of my life in Llandudno. The wife and me and two young girls aged 3 and nearly 2. A glorious sunny day. Fun on the pier, playing on the beach. A fish and chip supper. I remember crying with happiness on the way home at how absolutely perfect life was.
That's written like they weren't your kids, so I daren't ask but hope you found their parents for them!
The question about 1950s from @NickPalmer was regarding multiculturalism and whether we were better off then or now wrt to what the immigrant cultures have brought to the table, not to do with women, their rights, homosexuality etc etc.
Those things have improved but that’s not because of mass immigration or multiculturalism, in fact the immigrants tend to be less progressive in those regards than boring old white English men
Hello there. Firstly, a clarification because checking on PT replies I see you thought my comment yesterday about Talking Pints on GB News was derogatory towards you. Was mortified. Did not mean it that way at all. It was a genuine recommendation of something on TV I thought you'd like. Farage is your favourite politician (you've said so many times) and his guest was indeed darts legend Bobby George (and we both like darts). But anyway. No biggie.
I just have a question regarding your "multicultural doesn't work" sentiment. The incomer cultures that you see as a net negative for life in England - in practice do you mainly mean Muslims or is it much wider than this?
Mainly Muslims
Thanks. That's what I thought. So you're more of an "Isam and the West don't mix" kinda guy than the full Enoch.
Even two of the founding fathers of Multiculturalism, Roy Jenkins and Lord Lester, admitted they hadn't really thought it through. They were amazed that Muslims took their religion so seriously. I think they mistakenly thought Muslims were so desperate to live in the UK that they would renounce their beliefs, the way so many Westerners have, and become secularists, but the problem is a great many, probably a majority, don't
I say "problem" as "problem for smooth assimilation and peaceful society", not that their beliefs are a problem.
But do you honestly think that, if in the 60s when Multiculuralism and mass immigration were being debated, you would have shown people 7/7, Lee Rigby, BLM marches etc, there would be many people saying"Bring it on"? They would have called you a scaremongering racist
Enoch thought the only way out of the mess, if repatriation didn't happen, was inter racial marriage, and in terms of the immigrants from the caribbean, that has happened. The Windrush immigrants were already practically Brits abroad anyway, the only difference was their colour, which is only really a problem because it is a fault line when tensions rise, in overcrowded, poor sections of society when people are scrapping for resources
Thank you for the interesting elaboration. TBC over the next few weeks and months. I consider it my mission to move you on this. My only request is that if I do, you don't pretend I haven't.
I'm with Isam on this pretty much exactly. What he's saying sounds so uncontroversial as to be self-evident. I look forward to you making the alternative case!
Return of T20 this evening....what a stupid game, far too many balls.
Seems to be an allstars game, there are players from all my favourite franchises taking part and they're not using the proper team names.
Very funny! Saddest thing fo4 me this, aside of the relentless BBC propaganda has been the marginalisation of the T20 and one day cup. T20 was fine as it was, it just needed the BBC to front up and show it live. But no, they had to have a difference. Well thanks. You’re killing the one day game, which is the one thing we’ve ever won as an England team (and Wales, I have to add).
It is lovely. I only got six blisters on my coastal walk. Two of them were in Llandudno. I walked to the town along the beach in trainers, then decided to walk the road around the headland. By the time I got to the eastern side, the sand in my shoes had formed little humps under my foot arch, and I had two linear blisters. My own stupid fault.
And a couple of years ago, my sister organised a coach trip to Llandudno to celebrate her fiftieth. A great day.
There is something about Llandudno that the other North Wales resorts don't have. Even Bangor, which I quite like (I think Bangor counts as north coast?).
Llandudno is much more affluent than Bangor.
Bangor should be beautiful, a Cathedral city & a University town.
But, it has a really ugly shopping centre, with lots of rundown & closed shops. The main shopping street is covered in litter.
It should not be, but it is a depressing place.
On the North Coast, I think only Caernarfon beats Llandudno.
It is lovely. I only got six blisters on my coastal walk. Two of them were in Llandudno. I walked to the town along the beach in trainers, then decided to walk the road around the headland. By the time I got to the eastern side, the sand in my shoes had formed little humps under my foot arch, and I had two linear blisters. My own stupid fault.
And a couple of years ago, my sister organised a coach trip to Llandudno to celebrate her fiftieth. A great day.
There is something about Llandudno that the other North Wales resorts don't have. Even Bangor, which I quite like (I think Bangor counts as north coast?).
Llandudno is much more affluent than Bangor.
Bangor should be beautiful, a Cathedral city & a University town.
But, it has a really ugly shopping centre, with lots of rundown & closed shops. The main shopping street is covered in litter.
It should not be, but it is a depressing place.
On the North Coast, I think only Caernarfon beats Llandudno.
Caernarfon has its charms
Caernarfon is an odd mix. Beautiful castle and old town centre segueing abruptly into run-down council estate. Feels like a town which has preserved its history better than its wealth.
It is lovely. I only got six blisters on my coastal walk. Two of them were in Llandudno. I walked to the town along the beach in trainers, then decided to walk the road around the headland. By the time I got to the eastern side, the sand in my shoes had formed little humps under my foot arch, and I had two linear blisters. My own stupid fault.
And a couple of years ago, my sister organised a coach trip to Llandudno to celebrate her fiftieth. A great day.
There is something about Llandudno that the other North Wales resorts don't have. Even Bangor, which I quite like (I think Bangor counts as north coast?).
There is something about Llandudno that most coastal towns don't have. It's fun - it has its pier - but its also classy. And the setting, with the views off to the mountains, is spectacular.
I had one of the happiest days of my life in Llandudno. The wife and me and two young girls aged 3 and nearly 2. A glorious sunny day. Fun on the pier, playing on the beach. A fish and chip supper. I remember crying with happiness on the way home at how absolutely perfect life was.
That's written like they weren't your kids, so I daren't ask but hope you found their parents for them!
Ha ha - yes, my kids - before the third one came along - but so little back then that in the memory they seem like completely different people! Feels like we were just getting to know them back then. So I guess eventually we did find their parents for them!
Return of T20 this evening....what a stupid game, far too many balls.
Seems to be an allstars game, there are players from all my favourite franchises taking part and they're not using the proper team names.
Very funny! Saddest thing fo4 me this, aside of the relentless BBC propaganda has been the marginalisation of the T20 and one day cup. T20 was fine as it was, it just needed the BBC to front up and show it live. But no, they had to have a difference. Well thanks. You’re killing the one day game, which is the one thing we’ve ever won as an England team (and Wales, I have to add).
Wait: didn't Paul Collingwood lead England to an utterly dominant World Twenty20 victory? In fact, the team was so dominant, the final was actually pretty boring.
(Collingwood was then unceremoniously dumped. Which seemed a little harsh.)
Paul Waugh @paulwaugh · 46s In Zoom meeting with MPs today, I'm told @DominicRaab indicated that feedback from Taliban was their priority was to avoid economic collapse, which underscored G7's key area for leverage.
Return of T20 this evening....what a stupid game, far too many balls.
Seems to be an allstars game, there are players from all my favourite franchises taking part and they're not using the proper team names.
Very funny! Saddest thing fo4 me this, aside of the relentless BBC propaganda has been the marginalisation of the T20 and one day cup. T20 was fine as it was, it just needed the BBC to front up and show it live. But no, they had to have a difference. Well thanks. You’re killing the one day game, which is the one thing we’ve ever won as an England team (and Wales, I have to add).
Wait: didn't Paul Collingwood lead England to an utterly dominant World Twenty20 victory? In fact, the team was so dominant, the final was actually pretty boring.
(Collingwood was then unceremoniously dumped. Which seemed a little harsh.)
Fair enough. I’ll give you that one. I think the loss in the champions trophy has wiped that one from my memory.
Aaron Bastani @AaronBastani · 36m Congratulations @UniteSharon who is set to become the next general secretary of Unite. I was repeatedly told she had a chance - well done on overturning odds!
Commiserations to @SteveT_Unite , whose enthusiasm for a green industrial revolution has never been more necessary.
Sorry for delay in replying to posts earlier; been out for a cycle ride.
Part 1
Re @Cookie and @HYUFD regarding languages. I never suggested today's equivalent to Secondary schools did not teach languages. In fact I would be shocked if they didn't. I said it was something that I regretted not having available to me. Things have moved on and improved. I also note you are very positive about these schools in your areas. That is excellent. In fact my secondary school was very good. I would go as far and say the teaching was far superior to the Grammar school. I only moved because that was the only way I could do my A levels. It was the system that was an issue, not the schools. But this does beg the question though that if these schools are very good and the curriculum is no different why is there any need to split children away at 11 to another school.
@maaarsh Not only did you incorrectly criticize me by jumping to an incorrect assumption about me you actually did the same thing you were criticising me of doing. Also you credit the Grammar school with enabling you to go to University whereas if you were sent to a Comp you think you would have just got a few Bs and missed out. This raise two points:
a) Why should you have got that benefit and not the Secondary school kids and if you think they do have that benefit anyway then what is the point of the Grammar school.
b) Why would you failed at the Comp? Plenty of kids go to good Unis from Comps. In fact it is pretty normal. Why wouldn't have you?
Here is something from my memory of moving to the Grammar school and the various speech days I attended and says something about making decisions at 11:
About 10 - 15 of us moved to the Grammar school to do our A levels. Myself and another on the Arts side were fast streamed because we performed at the very top of the Grammar school boys, but also all those who transferred were in the top quartile of the Grammar school. Now clearly although there will changes in academic ability as one gets older (and that is one of the reasons I object to Grammar schools) it will not be to that extent, which appears ridiculous. The explanation is simple. Actually the numbers who were capable of moving across was not 10 - 15 but more like 30. Only the very best moved across. Social engineering was taking place already because of decisions made at 11. At speech day it was clear that there were a huge number of boys in the Grammar school getting 1 - 4 O levels which would put them at about the 50% point at the Secondary school. They should have been learning with people of their own ability and on subjects they could thrive on rather than struggling.
The overlap in ability at 11 (one assumes if the 11 plus is accurate and I see no reason why it should not be broadly accurate) is minimal. The overlap at 16 based on a test at 11 appears to be massive.
And clearly just to answer @HYUFD point, although it has been covered by many before, even with this overlap the selection process at 11 will still ensure the Grammar school has most of the most able students and the Secondary will have a lot less plus the secondary school will have all of those that are academically challenged. So the grammar school will always perform better but it doesn't make them better schools. Only if they started with the same pupils could you judge which is the better school.
It is lovely. I only got six blisters on my coastal walk. Two of them were in Llandudno. I walked to the town along the beach in trainers, then decided to walk the road around the headland. By the time I got to the eastern side, the sand in my shoes had formed little humps under my foot arch, and I had two linear blisters. My own stupid fault.
And a couple of years ago, my sister organised a coach trip to Llandudno to celebrate her fiftieth. A great day.
There is something about Llandudno that the other North Wales resorts don't have. Even Bangor, which I quite like (I think Bangor counts as north coast?).
There is something about Llandudno that most coastal towns don't have. It's fun - it has its pier - but its also classy. And the setting, with the views off to the mountains, is spectacular.
I had one of the happiest days of my life in Llandudno. The wife and me and two young girls aged 3 and nearly 2. A glorious sunny day. Fun on the pier, playing on the beach. A fish and chip supper. I remember crying with happiness on the way home at how absolutely perfect life was.
Last time I was there I was kept busy, preparing for government.
The question about 1950s from @NickPalmer was regarding multiculturalism and whether we were better off then or now wrt to what the immigrant cultures have brought to the table, not to do with women, their rights, homosexuality etc etc.
Those things have improved but that’s not because of mass immigration or multiculturalism, in fact the immigrants tend to be less progressive in those regards than boring old white English men
Hello there. Firstly, a clarification because checking on PT replies I see you thought my comment yesterday about Talking Pints on GB News was derogatory towards you. Was mortified. Did not mean it that way at all. It was a genuine recommendation of something on TV I thought you'd like. Farage is your favourite politician (you've said so many times) and his guest was indeed darts legend Bobby George (and we both like darts). But anyway. No biggie.
I just have a question regarding your "multicultural doesn't work" sentiment. The incomer cultures that you see as a net negative for life in England - in practice do you mainly mean Muslims or is it much wider than this?
Mainly Muslims
Thanks. That's what I thought. So you're more of an "Isam and the West don't mix" kinda guy than the full Enoch.
Even two of the founding fathers of Multiculturalism, Roy Jenkins and Lord Lester, admitted they hadn't really thought it through. They were amazed that Muslims took their religion so seriously. I think they mistakenly thought Muslims were so desperate to live in the UK that they would renounce their beliefs, the way so many Westerners have, and become secularists, but the problem is a great many, probably a majority, don't
I say "problem" as "problem for smooth assimilation and peaceful society", not that their beliefs are a problem.
But do you honestly think that, if in the 60s when Multiculuralism and mass immigration were being debated, you would have shown people 7/7, Lee Rigby, BLM marches etc, there would be many people saying"Bring it on"? They would have called you a scaremongering racist
Enoch thought the only way out of the mess, if repatriation didn't happen, was inter racial marriage, and in terms of the immigrants from the caribbean, that has happened. The Windrush immigrants were already practically Brits abroad anyway, the only difference was their colour, which is only really a problem because it is a fault line when tensions rise, in overcrowded, poor sections of society when people are scrapping for resources
British Indians have a lot of interracial marriages. Case in point right here. Quite a few of my cousins as well have married non-Indians. One of my uncles led the way and dealt with the bullshit 30 years ago and now it's extremely uncontroversial. I think if my grandma was alive she wouldn't be speaking to me but that's her narrow minded attitude and her problem. That generation is dying off though and so are those old school ideas.
Yes, I don't want to sound like I am picking on Muslims, but it seems to me they, out of the immigrants of the last 50 years to the UK, are less likely to marry outside of their religion. That is the main problem, as the culture is reinforced rather than diluted
Again, I say "problem" as in "problem for multiculturalism to work" not that their marrying each other is a problem in itself. I just don't think it helps a secular society to have a growing number of strong adherents to a religion, it creates a rivalry
It is lovely. I only got six blisters on my coastal walk. Two of them were in Llandudno. I walked to the town along the beach in trainers, then decided to walk the road around the headland. By the time I got to the eastern side, the sand in my shoes had formed little humps under my foot arch, and I had two linear blisters. My own stupid fault.
And a couple of years ago, my sister organised a coach trip to Llandudno to celebrate her fiftieth. A great day.
There is something about Llandudno that the other North Wales resorts don't have. Even Bangor, which I quite like (I think Bangor counts as north coast?).
There is something about Llandudno that most coastal towns don't have. It's fun - it has its pier - but its also classy. And the setting, with the views off to the mountains, is spectacular.
I had one of the happiest days of my life in Llandudno. The wife and me and two young girls aged 3 and nearly 2. A glorious sunny day. Fun on the pier, playing on the beach. A fish and chip supper. I remember crying with happiness on the way home at how absolutely perfect life was.
Last time I was there I was kept busy, preparing for government.
An insight into why Charlie Watts was one of the all time great drummers:
"'Get Off of My Cloud'
From: 'December's Children (And Everybody's)' (1965)
Like he does on "Honky Honk Women" (see No. 2 on our list of the Top 10 Charlie Watts Rolling Stones Songs), Watts totally dominates the Stones' second No. 1 single, which features one of the most unconventional drum structures ever employed in a Top 40 hit. Basically, Watts plays the same 4/4-beat-fill-4/4-beat-fill pattern throughout the song, guaranteeing you won't be able to escape the noisy upstairs neighbours, no matter how hard you try. That he keeps it up for the entire three minutes without once breaking the beat is a testament to his timeless talent."
Being able to repeat a simple pattern for 3 minutes without a mistake is a sign of timeless talent? How do we know he didn't record it once and loop it?
Is it a bad time to ask who it was who called them white boys playing black music badly?
It is worth pointing out that - sad as it may be as a reflection of the US - if it weren't for those English white boys then no one in the US outside of the black communities would have been listening to that black music.
I think both led zeppelin and the doors were doing a more authentic version of it.
Zeppelin not for me but I like The Doors a lot.
I like them all. I'd say that from c.'65 the Stones weren't really trying to reproduce an authentic version of black music but make something of their own that was (at times heavily) influenced by it. From Beggar's Banquet through to Exile on Main Street I think represents the acme of white boy rock and roll. I kinda of always think Exile is the big one but been going through a Sticky Fingers phase, some cracking atmospheric songs.
"Rolled Gold" was one of the albums of my Dad's I listened to a lot as a kid in the 80s. Quite a nice intro
What on earth is this "Extensive sampling of ballot papers"?
How is that allowed?
how would they know how much ballot stuffing is required if they don't sample?
Just kidding, I'm sure its legitimate, even if I don't understand it.
And for those that where wondering, the Unite Union political fund, according to its last published statement, has an annual income of £7.2 million with 918,522 of its 1,277,491 members contributing and had £16.5 million in the bank ready to be spent on whatever political campaign the new leader wishes.
And Labour are close to bankrupt iirc. So that money could be well useful.
I gather Graham is a top-notch industrial negotiator. I wonder what she will negotiate from Starmer for some of the money?
IIRC, many labour staff are also Unite members in there own right, and now that some face redundancy have balloted for strike action, don't know if the results are in yet, but would be interesting if not amusing if Unite and labour were at 2 negotiation tables at the same time!
Hmmm. Colour me sceptical. Often talk of this. Never happens.
And to be honest arguably the reason it doesn't happen is that Labour would soon drift from where leftwing unions want it to be and they know it.
No, it's a interesting result though. Reportedly she's just a couple of % ahead of Turner and Coyne, but enough to win. Coyne was a veteran of internal feuding (from the centre) with McCluskey, Turner (who I voted for) was the orthodox left-winger, backed by the mainstream left, while Sharon has the backing of the SWP and Socialist Party, varieties of Trotskyists, without being especially interested in party politics - she's the "break up the cosy leadership consensus" candidate. I suspect we'll see a bit of posturing but interest in Labour politics will take a back seat as she wrestles with her rivals on the NEC. A bit of feminism may have helped her, too - I suspect quite a few members are bored with balding men squabbling interminably.
The question about 1950s from @NickPalmer was regarding multiculturalism and whether we were better off then or now wrt to what the immigrant cultures have brought to the table, not to do with women, their rights, homosexuality etc etc.
Those things have improved but that’s not because of mass immigration or multiculturalism, in fact the immigrants tend to be less progressive in those regards than boring old white English men
Hello there. Firstly, a clarification because checking on PT replies I see you thought my comment yesterday about Talking Pints on GB News was derogatory towards you. Was mortified. Did not mean it that way at all. It was a genuine recommendation of something on TV I thought you'd like. Farage is your favourite politician (you've said so many times) and his guest was indeed darts legend Bobby George (and we both like darts). But anyway. No biggie.
I just have a question regarding your "multicultural doesn't work" sentiment. The incomer cultures that you see as a net negative for life in England - in practice do you mainly mean Muslims or is it much wider than this?
Mainly Muslims
Thanks. That's what I thought. So you're more of an "Isam and the West don't mix" kinda guy than the full Enoch.
Even two of the founding fathers of Multiculturalism, Roy Jenkins and Lord Lester, admitted they hadn't really thought it through. They were amazed that Muslims took their religion so seriously. I think they mistakenly thought Muslims were so desperate to live in the UK that they would renounce their beliefs, the way so many Westerners have, and become secularists, but the problem is a great many, probably a majority, don't
I say "problem" as "problem for smooth assimilation and peaceful society", not that their beliefs are a problem.
But do you honestly think that, if in the 60s when Multiculuralism and mass immigration were being debated, you would have shown people 7/7, Lee Rigby, BLM marches etc, there would be many people saying"Bring it on"? They would have called you a scaremongering racist
Enoch thought the only way out of the mess, if repatriation didn't happen, was inter racial marriage, and in terms of the immigrants from the caribbean, that has happened. The Windrush immigrants were already practically Brits abroad anyway, the only difference was their colour, which is only really a problem because it is a fault line when tensions rise, in overcrowded, poor sections of society when people are scrapping for resources
British Indians have a lot of interracial marriages. Case in point right here. Quite a few of my cousins as well have married non-Indians. One of my uncles led the way and dealt with the bullshit 30 years ago and now it's extremely uncontroversial. I think if my grandma was alive she wouldn't be speaking to me but that's her narrow minded attitude and her problem. That generation is dying off though and so are those old school ideas.
I waited until after my grandmother died to announce I wasn't having an arranged marriage.
In her defence she wasn't bigoted, she was fine with interracial/interfaith marriages for other people just not for her only grandchild.
I'd class that as fairly bigoted and I say that as someone who's own grandmother was the same. She disowned the uncle who married a Jewish lady and pretended not to have those grandchildren until the day she died. To what end people are like this I have no idea. There was a good write up in The Times last week on this with from a male Muslim perspective. I'd love to read about it from a Muslim female perspective because it must be pretty awful for them to marry White/Black/Hindu.
The most controversial thing that has happened in our family since then is a cousin who got divorced and has since married a white guy. Her mum wasn't convinced about either decisions but has since been very much won over by them.
Arsenal are more of a comedy club than they are a football club these days.
Arsenal technical director Edu's wife is seen showing the middle finger to fans after suffering abuse during defeat by Chelsea as supporters turn on their team after worst start to a season in 118 years
Hmmm. Colour me sceptical. Often talk of this. Never happens.
And to be honest arguably the reason it doesn't happen is that Labour would soon drift from where leftwing unions want it to be and they know it.
No, it's a interesting result though. Reportedly she's just a couple of % ahead of Turner and Coyne, but enough to win. Coyne was a veteran of internal feuding (from the centre) with McCluskey, Turner (who I voted for) was the orthodox left-winger, backed by the mainstream left, while Sharon has the backing of the SWP and Socialist Party, varieties of Trotskyists, without being especially interested in party politics - she's the "break up the cosy leadership consensus" candidate. I suspect we'll see a bit of posturing but interest in Labour politics will take a back seat as she wrestles with her rivals on the NEC. A bit of feminism may have helped her, too - I suspect quite a few members are bored with balding men squabbling interminably.
Sounds like she may have partly won because she has been involved in some tough and recent negotiations and the (few) voters have spotted someone who focuses on that side of things? e.g the BA strike?
An insight into why Charlie Watts was one of the all time great drummers:
"'Get Off of My Cloud'
From: 'December's Children (And Everybody's)' (1965)
Like he does on "Honky Honk Women" (see No. 2 on our list of the Top 10 Charlie Watts Rolling Stones Songs), Watts totally dominates the Stones' second No. 1 single, which features one of the most unconventional drum structures ever employed in a Top 40 hit. Basically, Watts plays the same 4/4-beat-fill-4/4-beat-fill pattern throughout the song, guaranteeing you won't be able to escape the noisy upstairs neighbours, no matter how hard you try. That he keeps it up for the entire three minutes without once breaking the beat is a testament to his timeless talent."
Being able to repeat a simple pattern for 3 minutes without a mistake is a sign of timeless talent? How do we know he didn't record it once and loop it?
Is it a bad time to ask who it was who called them white boys playing black music badly?
It is worth pointing out that - sad as it may be as a reflection of the US - if it weren't for those English white boys then no one in the US outside of the black communities would have been listening to that black music.
I think both led zeppelin and the doors were doing a more authentic version of it.
Zeppelin not for me but I like The Doors a lot.
I like them all. I'd say that from c.'65 the Stones weren't really trying to reproduce an authentic version of black music but make something of their own that was (at times heavily) influenced by it. From Beggar's Banquet through to Exile on Main Street I think represents the acme of white boy rock and roll. I kinda of always think Exile is the big one but been going through a Sticky Fingers phase, some cracking atmospheric songs.
"Rolled Gold" was one of the albums of my Dad's I listened to a lot as a kid in the 80s. Quite a nice intro
Have to say though, they havent written a good song since the early 80s have they?
Not really, bit depressing for those of us still hoping for a late flowering (for ourselves as much as Mick & the lads). What a canon though, and those songs are what keep the live shows packed out.
Start Me Up is probably my favourite Rolling Stones song.
I think mine is "We Love You". When I was a kid I loved "As Tears Go By"
When my mate died this year I kept listening to "Heaven". Ther are probably a dozen fighting for the title of fav though. "Street Fighting Man", "Waiting On A Friend", "Emotional Rescue", "Get Off My Cloud" and many many more
I'd class that as fairly bigoted and I say that as someone who's own grandmother was the same. She disowned the uncle who married a Jewish lady and pretended not to have those grandchildren until the day she died. To what end people are like this I have no idea. There was a good write up in The Times last week on this with from a male Muslim perspective. I'd love to read about it from a Muslim female perspective because it must be pretty awful for them to marry White/Black/Hindu.
The most controversial thing that has happened in our family since then is a cousin who got divorced and has since married a white guy. Her mum wasn't convinced about either decisions but has since been very much won over by them.
I suspect if she was around for my marriage she would have been fine with it.
There was nothing I couldn't do that she didn't love, eventually.
I mean she was very disappointed that I didn't become a doctor and let me know but after a few months wouldn't stop telling the world that her only grandson went to the University of Cambridge, it made her very proud.
Just listened to “The Nuremberg trials” podcast on bbc sounds from 1996.
Search “Nuremberg” on bbc sounds app.
Can’t believe the medium has been around for 25 years! It’s an important hour and a half of listening btw. I learned some new stuff too, like in his defence, how goerring fained ignorance of the nazi atrocities at Auschwitz etc. I don’t know what I assumed his defence would have been, but how the hell did he think he’d get away with that as his defence?
At least UK, Germany and France were in unison and Biden is on the hook for this if it goes wrong
No, the UK is firmly on the hook for having a PM who is unfit for office and is seen by the Americans as an absolute joke. The UK, Germany and France and the non-US NATO members are collectively on the hook for having allowed our defence capability to become completely dependent on the US. It is not just Biden's disgrace, it disgraces us all.
We didn't 'allow' it to happen. It has been that way since WW2.
Not entirely so. Whilst we belatedly had US support, the Falklands was a UK operation that would be impossible now. The 1980s UK and French military would have been able to take over from the US in Afghanistan to ensure a more orderly exit.
Yeah to be honest I was not looking to defend the last 40 years under all Governments. But the Falklands was never going to be like Afghanistan or Iraq. That was a short, sharp offensive which the people in charge fully accepted could easily fail if they didn't resolve things before the South Atlantic Winter. The military, if not the politicians, were prepared for a defeat that would cost a limited, some might even say controlled, number of lives. Both Iraq and Afghanistan were versions of Vietnam. Meatgrinders into which it was and is possible to keep feeding troops with no prospect of a long term victory. The US can, if they have the political and public will, mount such a campaign. The UK and France never could, even 40 or 50 years ago.
We should never have gone into Iraq or Afghanistan in the first place, just as the US should never have gone into Vietnam. But once we were there we needed to develop a strategy that contained the insurgency whilst accepting that it would take decades to make any real difference (if ever). It was morally incumbent on the Western powers to clear up the mess they made and sadly the only power with the ability to make such long term commitments was the US. Without them the UK and France - or any other country - would never have been able to continue. Not now, not 50 years ago.
The West - both the US and the other countries have made just two massive mistakes which will now haunt them for decades to come. The first was to start a war and the second was to end it.
The question about 1950s from @NickPalmer was regarding multiculturalism and whether we were better off then or now wrt to what the immigrant cultures have brought to the table, not to do with women, their rights, homosexuality etc etc.
Those things have improved but that’s not because of mass immigration or multiculturalism, in fact the immigrants tend to be less progressive in those regards than boring old white English men
Hello there. Firstly, a clarification because checking on PT replies I see you thought my comment yesterday about Talking Pints on GB News was derogatory towards you. Was mortified. Did not mean it that way at all. It was a genuine recommendation of something on TV I thought you'd like. Farage is your favourite politician (you've said so many times) and his guest was indeed darts legend Bobby George (and we both like darts). But anyway. No biggie.
I just have a question regarding your "multicultural doesn't work" sentiment. The incomer cultures that you see as a net negative for life in England - in practice do you mainly mean Muslims or is it much wider than this?
Mainly Muslims
Thanks. That's what I thought. So you're more of an "Isam and the West don't mix" kinda guy than the full Enoch.
Even two of the founding fathers of Multiculturalism, Roy Jenkins and Lord Lester, admitted they hadn't really thought it through. They were amazed that Muslims took their religion so seriously. I think they mistakenly thought Muslims were so desperate to live in the UK that they would renounce their beliefs, the way so many Westerners have, and become secularists, but the problem is a great many, probably a majority, don't
I say "problem" as "problem for smooth assimilation and peaceful society", not that their beliefs are a problem.
But do you honestly think that, if in the 60s when Multiculuralism and mass immigration were being debated, you would have shown people 7/7, Lee Rigby, BLM marches etc, there would be many people saying"Bring it on"? They would have called you a scaremongering racist
Enoch thought the only way out of the mess, if repatriation didn't happen, was inter racial marriage, and in terms of the immigrants from the caribbean, that has happened. The Windrush immigrants were already practically Brits abroad anyway, the only difference was their colour, which is only really a problem because it is a fault line when tensions rise, in overcrowded, poor sections of society when people are scrapping for resources
British Indians have a lot of interracial marriages. Case in point right here. Quite a few of my cousins as well have married non-Indians. One of my uncles led the way and dealt with the bullshit 30 years ago and now it's extremely uncontroversial. I think if my grandma was alive she wouldn't be speaking to me but that's her narrow minded attitude and her problem. That generation is dying off though and so are those old school ideas.
Sweeping generalisation but the Indian community just seems more integrated and happy than the Pakistani. As I said, sweeping generalisation. Is Islam the issue? Certainly the more hard line Islam interpretations seem antithetical to the British way of life in the 21st century. I’m sure this is unfair on 95% of Muslims in the U.K., but we only seem to hear from the 5%, and they just seem not to like it here.
I think Hindu and Muslim Indians are far more relaxed about losing our religion (but maybe not our culture) than Pakistani Muslims. It makes us much more secure in our actions - such as marrying outside of our religion and culture - and not imposing our values on other people.
On the 95/5 split I don't think that's true for any group of people. I don't think 95% of white British people are comfortable with interracial marriage (or children born out of wedlock). I think part of it is that Indian people who arrived in the 60s and 70s are much more likely to have lived in a secular country before coming to the UK, either in Africa during the Empire or actually in India which was also secular after independence (and still is). Most Indian people have legitimately never experienced living in a religious country under any kind of values system that was written over a thousand years ago and then. It's an alien concept and adjusting to the UK is very easy because of that IMO.
If I was to take a guess on Indians being comfortable with modern secular life it would be something like 80%, for Pakistanis I'd guess at maybe 30% who are comfortable with secular ideals, another 30% who tolerate it and 40% who find it an alien concept and think religion trumps the law of the land. That's proper finger in the air stuff though, loosely based on personal anecdote of having Muslim friends and meeting their parents etc...
An insight into why Charlie Watts was one of the all time great drummers:
"'Get Off of My Cloud'
From: 'December's Children (And Everybody's)' (1965)
Like he does on "Honky Honk Women" (see No. 2 on our list of the Top 10 Charlie Watts Rolling Stones Songs), Watts totally dominates the Stones' second No. 1 single, which features one of the most unconventional drum structures ever employed in a Top 40 hit. Basically, Watts plays the same 4/4-beat-fill-4/4-beat-fill pattern throughout the song, guaranteeing you won't be able to escape the noisy upstairs neighbours, no matter how hard you try. That he keeps it up for the entire three minutes without once breaking the beat is a testament to his timeless talent."
Being able to repeat a simple pattern for 3 minutes without a mistake is a sign of timeless talent? How do we know he didn't record it once and loop it?
Is it a bad time to ask who it was who called them white boys playing black music badly?
It is worth pointing out that - sad as it may be as a reflection of the US - if it weren't for those English white boys then no one in the US outside of the black communities would have been listening to that black music.
I think both led zeppelin and the doors were doing a more authentic version of it.
Zeppelin not for me but I like The Doors a lot.
Not saying that led zeppelin were good, but how much of their stuff was inspired plagiarism of the likes of Robert Johnson, blind Willie Johnson, h. Wolf etc
Its hardly plagiarism when they took every opportunity to make clear where they owed their debts.
Comments
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/gallery/tory-tank-commander-5602856
And I wouldn't call Mrs T a 'minor' politician.
My son has his first 'shout' in the RNLI AWB boat launched from the boathouse on the Promenade at 8.30 last night, to rescue a yacht off the Great Orme and take it into Conwy harbour.
On a similar theme the concert of BB King at the Albert Hall with Susan Tedeschi and Derek Trucks and then Ronny Wood joins them is just fab.
I do like a drink. There are periods when I have a drink many days in a row. Why not! I enjoy it. But then that moment hits when you think, you know what? Perhaps having a drink every single day isn’t good for me, and is actually taking away some of the pleasure not just of the drink but of the things I’m doing while I have it.
So I have a few days off. A couple of weeks perhaps. Once I went 7 months. Just got out the habit, didn’t miss it. Some people missed having a drink with me. Others thought I had become significantly less of a knobhead.
Then one evening out I decided, yes it would be nice to have a drink tonight. The moment is right. Oh the sweet joy of those first pints of Guinness, I felt giddy even before imbibing. And the sweetest thing was knowing that I didn’t need a drink to live a full and enjoyable life, but that sometimes it does improve things or at least add a different dimension. But one thing I did resolve. And that was never again to waste a drink on something sub standard. Nor to drink in such a way that anyone could think me a knobhead for it.
I wonder whether you might consider the above but substitute “having a drink” for “reading and posting about Brexit”.
£12 per use! Or is it a one off and use it as many times as you like? Probably the latter given how often it appears...
Edit: Worst URL ever
In fact I have a long list of bands I missed because I was offshore and she went with friends instead.
Official tells @jacopobarigazzi: “We did agree on very strict conditions [for dialogue with the Talibans] but we didn’t agree on a road map”
https://www.politico.eu/article/g7-agrees-road-map-for-dealing-with-the-taliban/
I say "problem" as "problem for smooth assimilation and peaceful society", not that their beliefs are a problem.
But do you honestly think that, if in the 60s when Multiculuralism and mass immigration were being debated, you would have shown people 7/7, Lee Rigby, BLM marches etc, there would be many people saying"Bring it on"? They would have called you a scaremongering racist
Enoch thought the only way out of the mess, if repatriation didn't happen, was inter racial marriage, and in terms of the immigrants from the caribbean, that has happened. The Windrush immigrants were already practically Brits abroad anyway, the only difference was their colour, which is only really a problem because it is a fault line when tensions rise, in overcrowded, poor sections of society when people are scrapping for resources
The boathouse itself used to take visitor groups but of course since covid only crew are allowed into the boathouse area, though donation boxes are on the perimeter
yes, definitely Brexit.
performative.
Some years ago they toured The Lamb Lies down on Broadway with all the original slides, and a balding left-handed drummer who looked and sounded exactly like Phil Collins
* yes, yes I know about fuel cells
https://twitter.com/mugecevik/status/1430218372348878860?s=20
Among other things…
https://news.sky.com/story/britain-working-to-keep-airport-open-in-afghanistan-after-troops-withdraw-on-31-august-12389693
And a couple of years ago, my sister organised a coach trip to Llandudno to celebrate her fiftieth. A great day.
There is something about Llandudno that the other North Wales resorts don't have. Even Bangor, which I quite like (I think Bangor counts as north coast?).
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/unite-union-sharon-graham-on-course-to-win-len-mcluskey_uk_6125113ce4b0ee6469ba18ac
How is that allowed?
Every day there isn't another story about how shit Brexit is, I won't post it...
Guardian
https://order-order.com/2021/08/24/rumour-round-up-furthest-left-candidate-set-for-unite-leadership-upset/
https://twitter.com/steve_hawkes/status/1430219997654179850
Guardian
Independent
I'd say that from c.'65 the Stones weren't really trying to reproduce an authentic version of black music but make something of their own that was (at times heavily) influenced by it. From Beggar's Banquet through to Exile on Main Street I think represents the acme of white boy rock and roll. I kinda of always think Exile is the big one but been going through a Sticky Fingers phase, some cracking atmospheric songs.
Just kidding, I'm sure its legitimate, even if I don't understand it.
And for those that where wondering, the Unite Union political fund, according to its last published statement, has an annual income of £7.2 million with 918,522 of its 1,277,491 members contributing and had £16.5 million in the bank ready to be spent on whatever political campaign the new leader wishes.
Bangor should be beautiful, a Cathedral city & a University town.
But, it has a really ugly shopping centre, with lots of rundown & closed shops. The main shopping street is covered in litter.
It should not be, but it is a depressing place.
On the North Coast, I think only Caernarfon beats Llandudno.
I had one of the happiest days of my life in Llandudno. The wife and me and two young girls aged 3 and nearly 2. A glorious sunny day. Fun on the pier, playing on the beach. A fish and chip supper. I remember crying with happiness on the way home at how absolutely perfect life was.
In her defence she wasn't bigoted, she was fine with interracial/interfaith marriages for other people just not for her only grandchild.
I gather Graham is a top-notch industrial negotiator. I wonder what she will negotiate from Starmer for some of the money?
And to be honest arguably the reason it doesn't happen is that Labour would soon drift from where leftwing unions want it to be and they know it.
(Collingwood was then unceremoniously dumped. Which seemed a little harsh.)
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In Zoom meeting with MPs today, I'm told
@DominicRaab
indicated that feedback from Taliban was their priority was to avoid economic collapse, which underscored G7's key area for leverage.
https://www.theguardian.com/stage/2021/aug/24/rise-of-the-robo-drama-young-vic-creates-new-play-using-artificial-intelligence
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Congratulations @UniteSharon who is set to become the next general secretary of Unite. I was repeatedly told she had a chance - well done on overturning odds!
Commiserations to
@SteveT_Unite
, whose enthusiasm for a green industrial revolution has never been more necessary.
Part 1
Re @Cookie and @HYUFD regarding languages. I never suggested today's equivalent to Secondary schools did not teach languages. In fact I would be shocked if they didn't. I said it was something that I regretted not having available to me. Things have moved on and improved. I also note you are very positive about these schools in your areas. That is excellent. In fact my secondary school was very good. I would go as far and say the teaching was far superior to the Grammar school. I only moved because that was the only way I could do my A levels. It was the system that was an issue, not the schools. But this does beg the question though that if these schools are very good and the curriculum is no different why is there any need to split children away at 11 to another school.
@maaarsh Not only did you incorrectly criticize me by jumping to an incorrect assumption about me you actually did the same thing you were criticising me of doing. Also you credit the Grammar school with enabling you to go to University whereas if you were sent to a Comp you think you would have just got a few Bs and missed out. This raise two points:
a) Why should you have got that benefit and not the Secondary school kids and if you think they do have that benefit anyway then what is the point of the Grammar school.
b) Why would you failed at the Comp? Plenty of kids go to good Unis from Comps. In fact it is pretty normal. Why wouldn't have you?
Part 2:
Here is something from my memory of moving to the Grammar school and the various speech days I attended and says something about making decisions at 11:
About 10 - 15 of us moved to the Grammar school to do our A levels. Myself and another on the Arts side were fast streamed because we performed at the very top of the Grammar school boys, but also all those who transferred were in the top quartile of the Grammar school. Now clearly although there will changes in academic ability as one gets older (and that is one of the reasons I object to Grammar schools) it will not be to that extent, which appears ridiculous. The explanation is simple. Actually the numbers who were capable of moving across was not 10 - 15 but more like 30. Only the very best moved across. Social engineering was taking place already because of decisions made at 11. At speech day it was clear that there were a huge number of boys in the Grammar school getting 1 - 4 O levels which would put them at about the 50% point at the Secondary school. They should have been learning with people of their own ability and on subjects they could thrive on rather than struggling.
The overlap in ability at 11 (one assumes if the 11 plus is accurate and I see no reason why it should not be broadly accurate) is minimal. The overlap at 16 based on a test at 11 appears to be massive.
And clearly just to answer @HYUFD point, although it has been covered by many before, even with this overlap the selection process at 11 will still ensure the Grammar school has most of the most able students and the Secondary will have a lot less plus the secondary school will have all of those that are academically challenged. So the grammar school will always perform better but it doesn't make them better schools. Only if they started with the same pupils could you judge which is the better school.
Again, I say "problem" as in "problem for multiculturalism to work" not that their marrying each other is a problem in itself. I just don't think it helps a secular society to have a growing number of strong adherents to a religion, it creates a rivalry
Trouble is, if I’m wondering that, then so will be the true believers stood behind him.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolled_Gold:_The_Very_Best_of_the_Rolling_Stones#Revised_track_listing
Sorry to be a philistine and list comps a la Partidge, but he also had Rewind
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rewind_(1971–1984)
Have to say though, they havent written a good song since the early 80s have they?
The most controversial thing that has happened in our family since then is a cousin who got divorced and has since married a white guy. Her mum wasn't convinced about either decisions but has since been very much won over by them.
Arsenal technical director Edu's wife is seen showing the middle finger to fans after suffering abuse during defeat by Chelsea as supporters turn on their team after worst start to a season in 118 years
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-9921927/Arsenal-Edus-wife-shows-fan-middle-finger-turn-transfer-chief.html
Really is toxic these days, I blame AFTV.
What a canon though, and those songs are what keep the live shows packed out.
When my mate died this year I kept listening to "Heaven". Ther are probably a dozen fighting for the title of fav though. "Street Fighting Man", "Waiting On A Friend", "Emotional Rescue", "Get Off My Cloud" and many many more
There was nothing I couldn't do that she didn't love, eventually.
I mean she was very disappointed that I didn't become a doctor and let me know but after a few months wouldn't stop telling the world that her only grandson went to the University of Cambridge, it made her very proud.
And now for something completely different…
Just listened to “The Nuremberg trials” podcast on bbc sounds from 1996.
Search “Nuremberg” on bbc sounds app.
Can’t believe the medium has been around for 25 years! It’s an important hour and a half of listening btw. I learned some new stuff too, like in his defence, how goerring fained ignorance of the nazi atrocities at Auschwitz etc. I don’t know what I assumed his defence would have been, but how the hell did he think he’d get away with that as his defence?
Idiot.
We should never have gone into Iraq or Afghanistan in the first place, just as the US should never have gone into Vietnam. But once we were there we needed to develop a strategy that contained the insurgency whilst accepting that it would take decades to make any real difference (if ever). It was morally incumbent on the Western powers to clear up the mess they made and sadly the only power with the ability to make such long term commitments was the US. Without them the UK and France - or any other country - would never have been able to continue. Not now, not 50 years ago.
The West - both the US and the other countries have made just two massive mistakes which will now haunt them for decades to come. The first was to start a war and the second was to end it.
On the 95/5 split I don't think that's true for any group of people. I don't think 95% of white British people are comfortable with interracial marriage (or children born out of wedlock). I think part of it is that Indian people who arrived in the 60s and 70s are much more likely to have lived in a secular country before coming to the UK, either in Africa during the Empire or actually in India which was also secular after independence (and still is). Most Indian people have legitimately never experienced living in a religious country under any kind of values system that was written over a thousand years ago and then. It's an alien concept and adjusting to the UK is very easy because of that IMO.
If I was to take a guess on Indians being comfortable with modern secular life it would be something like 80%, for Pakistanis I'd guess at maybe 30% who are comfortable with secular ideals, another 30% who tolerate it and 40% who find it an alien concept and think religion trumps the law of the land. That's proper finger in the air stuff though, loosely based on personal anecdote of having Muslim friends and meeting their parents etc...
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