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Stopping the SNP juggernaut – what are the chances for Scotland’s opposition parties? – politicalbet

SystemSystem Posts: 12,168
edited March 2021 in General
imageStopping the SNP juggernaut – what are the chances for Scotland’s opposition parties? – politicalbetting.com

With two months to go until the Holyrood elections, Ipsos MORI’s latest Scotland poll yet again finds the SNP ahead on voting intention – 52% of likely voters are minded to vote SNP for their constituency, and 47% say they will vote for them on their regional list. Both the Conservatives (on 23% constituency, 22% list) and Labour (15%/14%) continue to trail well behind. But as the well worn saying goes, a week is a long-time in politics. The SNP, down six points on constituency vote since Ipsos MORI’s October 2020 poll, may have felt the truth of that particularly acutely this week, with the Salmond inquiry dominating many headlines.  Given evidence that SNP support may be slipping back (albeit from an incredibly high start), what prospects are there for Scotland’s largest opposition parties to make further inroads before 6 May? Ipsos MORI’s latest data provides useful clues. 

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  • dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,300
    first Minister...
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,710
    Second, but a long way behind...
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,126
    Fighting to stay relevant in third
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,126
    Thank you to the header writers - the data on this frequently depresses me, but it is good to know.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 51,692

    MattW said:
    The spokesman went on to read a brief statement from the First Minister:

    'This is a witch-hunt, the biggest witch-hunt in the history of our great nation of Scotland. This is a conspiracy by radical members of AntiNicola to persecute the best First Minister in the history of our country, who's only trying to Make Scotland Great Again for all the people. But we are looking at things very, very strongly, and our brave and loyal Attorney Advocate General will be taking the appropriate measures, that I can assure you. MSGA!'
    Surely "Make Alba Great Again".
  • squareroot2squareroot2 Posts: 6,725
    kle4 said:

    Fighting to stay relevant in third

    Are you talking about the SNP?
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 28,476
    Interesting thread, thanks.
  • dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,300
    It seems rather too extraordinary, that a female political protege was unaware of the behaviour of her patron, until he had stepped down.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,875

    Interesting thread, thanks.

    Agreed, ditto.
  • BluestBlueBluestBlue Posts: 4,556

    MattW said:
    The spokesman went on to read a brief statement from the First Minister:

    'This is a witch-hunt, the biggest witch-hunt in the history of our great nation of Scotland. This is a conspiracy by radical members of AntiNicola to persecute the best First Minister in the history of our country, who's only trying to Make Scotland Great Again for all the people. But we are looking at things very, very strongly, and our brave and loyal Attorney Advocate General will be taking the appropriate measures, that I can assure you. MSGA!'
    Surely "Make Alba Great Again".
    Very good! And then they can just bulk-buy the caps from the US without needing to design new ones.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,598
    "Grim news if you consider that only 15% in Scotland are considering backing Labour to begin with."

    Not looking like Scotland is coming to Starmer's aid.

    "It's a terrrrrrrrible Knight......"
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,203
    Interesting that we're doing more jabs per day (proportionately) thna the USA but their criteria seem wider than ours in general right now.
    High takeup here ?
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 38,865
    It won't be the inquiry itself that changes people's minds it will be the idea that the FM directed the apparatus of the government to persecute an individual that was a political enemy that will do it. Both Labour and Tory need to absolutely hammer this point home over and over again until election day. What kind of country is the SNP looking to create? Will it look like England, Sweden or Denmark? Or will it look like Zimbabwe or Russia where the politicians in power try and take down their rivals using different arms of the state.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,710
    edited March 2021
    Pulpstar said:

    Interesting that we're doing more jabs per day (proportionately) thna the USA but their criteria seem wider than ours in general right now.
    High takeup here ?

    I suspect that a much less socially equitable delivery in the USA, with significant gaps in both inner cities and Apalachia
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,710
    Great goal by 'nacho...
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,586
    edited March 2021
    My mood has suddenly improved on finding out that the 4th test match is starting tonight. Thought it was 8th March for some reason.
  • FlatlanderFlatlander Posts: 4,671
    edited March 2021
    Andy_JS said:

    My mood has suddenly improved on finding out that the 4th test match is starting tonight.

    Until England win the toss and choose to bat not play at straight deliveries?
  • dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,300
    @Carnyx

    In case you have found some of those aircraft engine diagrams and charts hard to read, this is a link to enlarged versions.

    https://www.calum-douglas.com/the-secret-horsepower-race-image-archive/
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 28,476
    As I've said, there is an opening for a party that is committed to staying in the Union, but is not a branch of a UK party, and is only loosely affiliated, or not at all, with another UK party.

    The main opposition parties seem to have realised this to an extent, and you see a lot of things like Douglas Ross saying that his 'demands' for Sunak's budget have all been met (as opposed to just cheerleading for the budget), however, it lacks credibility.

    There is a new party that actually fits this model - Alliance for Unity, George Galloway's latest project, but at the moment they are not using their unique set up as a Scottish Unionist Party as a selling point, and they probably won't field candidates for Westminster, where this type of party would make the most sense.

  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,710
    dr_spyn said:

    It seems rather too extraordinary, that a female political protege was unaware of the behaviour of her patron, until he had stepped down.

    Indeed. It does seem as if some of the exposures around the #metoo movement altered the atmosphere significantly.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,487
    Excellent thread header. Great "professional" analysis.

    I think this shows just how crucial the role of Anas Sarwar will be over the next 8 weeks.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,710

    As I've said, there is an opening for a party that is committed to staying in the Union, but is not a branch of a UK party, and is only loosely affiliated, or not at all, with another UK party.

    The main opposition parties seem to have realised this to an extent, and you see a lot of things like Douglas Ross saying that his 'demands' for Sunak's budget have all been met (as opposed to just cheerleading for the budget), however, it lacks credibility.

    There is a new party that actually fits this model - Alliance for Unity, George Galloway's latest project, but at the moment they are not using their unique set up as a Scottish Unionist Party as a selling point, and they probably won't field candidates for Westminster, where this type of party would make the most sense.

    I think that we are headed in the direction of only a single Unionist party, and the others as rumps, and that one being the Tories.

    I see their ceiling as around 30%
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,429
    MaxPB said:

    It won't be the inquiry itself that changes people's minds it will be the idea that the FM directed the apparatus of the government to persecute an individual that was a political enemy that will do it. Both Labour and Tory need to absolutely hammer this point home over and over again until election day. What kind of country is the SNP looking to create? Will it look like England, Sweden or Denmark? Or will it look like Zimbabwe or Russia where the politicians in power try and take down their rivals using different arms of the state.

    Also depends on what Salmond does. Is there still time and space for another maneuver?

    He must have been seething today. Sturgeon denounced him many times, and essentially labelled him as guilty. Despite his being acquitted of all charges.

    He will want blood. Again
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,487
    Foxy said:

    Great goal by 'nacho...

    I really fancy some nachos.

    With sour cream, grated cheese, salsa and guacamole.

    Yum.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,870

    Foxy said:

    Great goal by 'nacho...

    I really fancy some nachos.

    With sour cream, grated cheese, salsa and guacamole.

    Yum.
    A nice vegetarian starter :)
  • Breaking

    Bullying allegations against Duchess of Sussex
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,598
    Last Covid patient has been discharged from Exeter's Nightingale hospital. It is being stood down.
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    edited March 2021
  • Black_RookBlack_Rook Posts: 8,905
    I came into this discussion thinking that the legacy UK parties were permafucked and the SNP would simply romp to yet another victory.

    However, I granted our guest authors the courtesy of reading their piece in full, anyway.

    The legacy UK parties are probably* permafucked and the SNP is probably* going to romp to yet another victory.


    *By probably I mean certainly, of course. The Conservatives and Labour don't merely have 'a lot of work to do in the next two months' to make significant progress. They need to build, test and commission a mind-control field generator that can successfully reprogram the brains of the entire population. Not even the Chinese have figured out how to make that happen.
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 3,706

    As I've said, there is an opening for a party that is committed to staying in the Union, but is not a branch of a UK party, and is only loosely affiliated, or not at all, with another UK party.

    The main opposition parties seem to have realised this to an extent, and you see a lot of things like Douglas Ross saying that his 'demands' for Sunak's budget have all been met (as opposed to just cheerleading for the budget), however, it lacks credibility.

    There is a new party that actually fits this model - Alliance for Unity, George Galloway's latest project, but at the moment they are not using their unique set up as a Scottish Unionist Party as a selling point, and they probably won't field candidates for Westminster, where this type of party would make the most sense.

    The drawback is of course George Galloway.
  • Did I read the thread header too quickly?

    It seemed to me to be saying that all three parties were likely to do badly. Would be great if true, but not entirely sure how that can be.
  • I came into this discussion thinking that the legacy UK parties were permafucked and the SNP would simply romp to yet another victory.

    However, I granted our guest authors the courtesy of reading their piece in full, anyway.

    The legacy UK parties are probably* permafucked and the SNP is probably* going to romp to yet another victory.


    *By probably I mean certainly, of course. The Conservatives and Labour don't merely have 'a lot of work to do in the next two months' to make significant progress. They need to build, test and commission a mind-control field generator that can successfully reprogram the brains of the entire population. Not even the Chinese have figured out how to make that happen.

    You could gave written that about Labour in Scotland 30 years ago
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 42,989

    Foxy said:

    Great goal by 'nacho...

    I really fancy some nachos.

    With sour cream, grated cheese, salsa and guacamole.

    Yum.
    Ideally at the Garibaldi Lift Company in Whistler. I can see them in front of me now.
  • Black_RookBlack_Rook Posts: 8,905
    Three hours late and today's Covid update is still delayed, grrr....
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,487
    Charles said:

    Breaking

    Bullying allegations against Duchess of Sussex

    Rehash of allegations made 2 years ago.

    Fundamentally she thinks that palace servants are “servants” in the way that Hollywood A listers - like she believes she is - abuse their staff. She doesn’t understand the more nuanced relationships the UK royals have with them
    I don't get this idea that you get the most out of your staff if you abuse them.

    It must be a status thing in the USA, because it sure enough isn't decent, or effective.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,429

    I came into this discussion thinking that the legacy UK parties were permafucked and the SNP would simply romp to yet another victory.

    However, I granted our guest authors the courtesy of reading their piece in full, anyway.

    The legacy UK parties are probably* permafucked and the SNP is probably* going to romp to yet another victory.


    *By probably I mean certainly, of course. The Conservatives and Labour don't merely have 'a lot of work to do in the next two months' to make significant progress. They need to build, test and commission a mind-control field generator that can successfully reprogram the brains of the entire population. Not even the Chinese have figured out how to make that happen.

    You could gave written that about Labour in Scotland 30 years ago
    Or about the pro-independence movement in Quebec 20 years ago

    These things do change
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,487

    Foxy said:

    Great goal by 'nacho...

    I really fancy some nachos.

    With sour cream, grated cheese, salsa and guacamole.

    Yum.
    A nice vegetarian starter :)
    Hey, listen, I'm not averse to the odd cracking bit of vegetarian (or even vegan) cuisine from time to time.

    I just don't want to have it every day.
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758

    I came into this discussion thinking that the legacy UK parties were permafucked and the SNP would simply romp to yet another victory.

    However, I granted our guest authors the courtesy of reading their piece in full, anyway.

    The legacy UK parties are probably* permafucked and the SNP is probably* going to romp to yet another victory.


    *By probably I mean certainly, of course. The Conservatives and Labour don't merely have 'a lot of work to do in the next two months' to make significant progress. They need to build, test and commission a mind-control field generator that can successfully reprogram the brains of the entire population. Not even the Chinese have figured out how to make that happen.

    How do you know the Chinese haven’t?

    If they had wouldn’t they programme you to believe (a) they hadn’t and (b) you were living in a western democracy rather than under the iron fist of the Chinese jackboot
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,487

    As I've said, there is an opening for a party that is committed to staying in the Union, but is not a branch of a UK party, and is only loosely affiliated, or not at all, with another UK party.

    The main opposition parties seem to have realised this to an extent, and you see a lot of things like Douglas Ross saying that his 'demands' for Sunak's budget have all been met (as opposed to just cheerleading for the budget), however, it lacks credibility.

    There is a new party that actually fits this model - Alliance for Unity, George Galloway's latest project, but at the moment they are not using their unique set up as a Scottish Unionist Party as a selling point, and they probably won't field candidates for Westminster, where this type of party would make the most sense.

    I think the SCons should detach, at least for Holyrood. Westminster can be different.

    The Unionists did the best in Scotland when they were a distinctly Scottish party, and I think SCons and SLabour are both limited whilst they are wholly owned subsidiaries of the UK versions.
  • Pulpstar said:

    Interesting that we're doing more jabs per day (proportionately) thna the USA but their criteria seem wider than ours in general right now.
    High takeup here ?

    What's the payment situation with vaccine in the States? I feel I should know the answer to this but I don't.

    Is it free on demand? Not sure how else it could work but nothing medical is free there in my experience so I am guessing that somehow it is run through insurance. Anybody know?
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,487
    Do Americans just watch the Disney fairytale films as kids and think that that's what being a Royal Princess is actually like?
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758

    Charles said:

    Breaking

    Bullying allegations against Duchess of Sussex

    Rehash of allegations made 2 years ago.

    Fundamentally she thinks that palace servants are “servants” in the way that Hollywood A listers - like she believes she is - abuse their staff. She doesn’t understand the more nuanced relationships the UK royals have with them
    I don't get this idea that you get the most out of your staff if you abuse them.

    It must be a status thing in the USA, because it sure enough isn't decent, or effective.
    It’s people who have too much money and celebrity at a comparative young age and don’t have the experience to know how to manage people (plus they probably grew up watching other celebrities so didn’t learn any better)
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,710

    Charles said:

    Breaking

    Bullying allegations against Duchess of Sussex

    Rehash of allegations made 2 years ago.

    Fundamentally she thinks that palace servants are “servants” in the way that Hollywood A listers - like she believes she is - abuse their staff. She doesn’t understand the more nuanced relationships the UK royals have with them
    I don't get this idea that you get the most out of your staff if you abuse them.

    It must be a status thing in the USA, because it sure enough isn't decent, or effective.
    Except when Priti does it apparently...
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    Charles said:

    Breaking

    Bullying allegations against Duchess of Sussex

    Rehash of allegations made 2 years ago.

    Fundamentally she thinks that palace servants are “servants” in the way that Hollywood A listers - like she believes she is - abuse their staff. She doesn’t understand the more nuanced relationships the UK royals have with them
    Working for two decades for an American multinational I was always struck by the different responses to commands from on high between Americans & Brits:

    Americans: "The boss has said X - jump to it!"
    Brits: "Oh feck, what's the old fool said now?"
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,875
    edited March 2021

    As I've said, there is an opening for a party that is committed to staying in the Union, but is not a branch of a UK party, and is only loosely affiliated, or not at all, with another UK party.

    The main opposition parties seem to have realised this to an extent, and you see a lot of things like Douglas Ross saying that his 'demands' for Sunak's budget have all been met (as opposed to just cheerleading for the budget), however, it lacks credibility.

    There is a new party that actually fits this model - Alliance for Unity, George Galloway's latest project, but at the moment they are not using their unique set up as a Scottish Unionist Party as a selling point, and they probably won't field candidates for Westminster, where this type of party would make the most sense.

    I think the SCons should detach, at least for Holyrood. Westminster can be different.

    The Unionists did the best in Scotland when they were a distinctly Scottish party, and I think SCons and SLabour are both limited whilst they are wholly owned subsidiaries of the UK versions.
    Slab isn't a subsidiary - it is 100% UK Labour, as far as the EC is concerned. It's only a Labour legal fiddle in the electoral law that allows it to have a different name for the elections from the thing in London.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 42,989
    Charles said:

    Breaking

    Bullying allegations against Duchess of Sussex

    Rehash of allegations made 2 years ago.

    Fundamentally she thinks that palace servants are “servants” in the way that Hollywood A listers - like she believes she is - abuse their staff. She doesn’t understand the more nuanced relationships the UK royals have with them
    You need to understand the difference between palace staff and households.
  • Charles said:

    I came into this discussion thinking that the legacy UK parties were permafucked and the SNP would simply romp to yet another victory.

    However, I granted our guest authors the courtesy of reading their piece in full, anyway.

    The legacy UK parties are probably* permafucked and the SNP is probably* going to romp to yet another victory.


    *By probably I mean certainly, of course. The Conservatives and Labour don't merely have 'a lot of work to do in the next two months' to make significant progress. They need to build, test and commission a mind-control field generator that can successfully reprogram the brains of the entire population. Not even the Chinese have figured out how to make that happen.

    How do you know the Chinese haven’t?

    If they had wouldn’t they programme you to believe (a) they hadn’t and (b) you were living in a western democracy rather than under the iron fist of the Chinese jackboot
    How do you get your fist in a jackboot, Charles?
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    TOPPING said:

    Charles said:

    Breaking

    Bullying allegations against Duchess of Sussex

    Rehash of allegations made 2 years ago.

    Fundamentally she thinks that palace servants are “servants” in the way that Hollywood A listers - like she believes she is - abuse their staff. She doesn’t understand the more nuanced relationships the UK royals have with them
    You need to understand the difference between palace staff and households.
    I do. Her grace (I use the word advisedly) doesn’t
  • TimTTimT Posts: 6,468
    Foxy said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Interesting that we're doing more jabs per day (proportionately) thna the USA but their criteria seem wider than ours in general right now.
    High takeup here ?

    I suspect that a much less socially equitable delivery in the USA, with significant gaps in both inner cities and Apalachia
    Actually, W Virginia is one of the star performers. But you are right that, particularly in urban settings, it seems that internet access - and the ability to sit for hours upon hours hitting the reset button - is a pre-requisite to getting one's vaccination appointment which, not surprisingly within any given cohort favours the affluent educated vs the poor hourly-paid service industry worker. Huge uptake differences in affluent N. Chicago vs poor S Chicago, which naturally translates into a white vs black/hispanic chasm.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,875
    dr_spyn said:

    @Carnyx

    In case you have found some of those aircraft engine diagrams and charts hard to read, this is a link to enlarged versions.

    https://www.calum-douglas.com/the-secret-horsepower-race-image-archive/

    Thanks! I'm reading it chunk by chunk at bedtime right now, and enjoying the book very much. This will be useful.

    I had no idea, for instance, how important different fuels were.
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758

    Charles said:

    I came into this discussion thinking that the legacy UK parties were permafucked and the SNP would simply romp to yet another victory.

    However, I granted our guest authors the courtesy of reading their piece in full, anyway.

    The legacy UK parties are probably* permafucked and the SNP is probably* going to romp to yet another victory.


    *By probably I mean certainly, of course. The Conservatives and Labour don't merely have 'a lot of work to do in the next two months' to make significant progress. They need to build, test and commission a mind-control field generator that can successfully reprogram the brains of the entire population. Not even the Chinese have figured out how to make that happen.

    How do you know the Chinese haven’t?

    If they had wouldn’t they programme you to believe (a) they hadn’t and (b) you were living in a western democracy rather than under the iron fist of the Chinese jackboot
    How do you get your fist in a jackboot, Charles?
    And you get first prize. Pretty quick as well 😊
  • Charles said:

    Breaking

    Bullying allegations against Duchess of Sussex

    Rehash of allegations made 2 years ago.

    Fundamentally she thinks that palace servants are “servants” in the way that Hollywood A listers - like she believes she is - abuse their staff. She doesn’t understand the more nuanced relationships the UK royals have with them
    I don't get this idea that you get the most out of your staff if you abuse them.

    It must be a status thing in the USA, because it sure enough isn't decent, or effective.
    Those of us who have to get by without staff defer to your greater knowledge, Casino.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 42,989
    Charles said:

    TOPPING said:

    Charles said:

    Breaking

    Bullying allegations against Duchess of Sussex

    Rehash of allegations made 2 years ago.

    Fundamentally she thinks that palace servants are “servants” in the way that Hollywood A listers - like she believes she is - abuse their staff. She doesn’t understand the more nuanced relationships the UK royals have with them
    You need to understand the difference between palace staff and households.
    I do. Her grace (I use the word advisedly) doesn’t
    Then your post was badly worded.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 41,995
    edited March 2021

    As I've said, there is an opening for a party that is committed to staying in the Union, but is not a branch of a UK party, and is only loosely affiliated, or not at all, with another UK party.

    The main opposition parties seem to have realised this to an extent, and you see a lot of things like Douglas Ross saying that his 'demands' for Sunak's budget have all been met (as opposed to just cheerleading for the budget), however, it lacks credibility.

    There is a new party that actually fits this model - Alliance for Unity, George Galloway's latest project, but at the moment they are not using their unique set up as a Scottish Unionist Party as a selling point, and they probably won't field candidates for Westminster, where this type of party would make the most sense.

    The drawback is of course George Galloway.
    Just as there's no position that Galloway wouldn't take to advance his lifelong grift, there's no figure that (some) Unionists wouldn't clutch at to save their Union.

    #Salmondthebestpmweneverhad
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    edited March 2021
    TOPPING said:

    Charles said:

    TOPPING said:

    Charles said:

    Breaking

    Bullying allegations against Duchess of Sussex

    Rehash of allegations made 2 years ago.

    Fundamentally she thinks that palace servants are “servants” in the way that Hollywood A listers - like she believes she is - abuse their staff. She doesn’t understand the more nuanced relationships the UK royals have with them
    You need to understand the difference between palace staff and households.
    I do. Her grace (I use the word advisedly) doesn’t
    Then your post was badly worded.
    I skimmed the allegations earlier when they came out & they used the word “servants” which is not one I’d usually use

    In any event, regardless of their place in the hierarchy, all team members deserve to be treated with courtesy
  • stodgestodge Posts: 13,892
    Evening all :)

    Interesting Budget - the question is whether the rebound in economic activity is as strong as Sunak and the BoE believe and the impacts that will have on inflation and interest rates.

    Some on here witter on about the parallels with the "roaring twenties" - one more dubious parallel was hyperinflation in the early 20s as economic activity recovered from the war. The 1920s weren't just flappers and the Charleston - they were the decade of wheeling wheelbarrows of cash round to buy food. I suppose the equivalent now would be to raise the contactless card limit to £10 million so we can all go to the supermarket.

    There's no scope to cut taxes or to raise them and while I imagine Sunak might be hoping growth and inflation will help with both debt and deficit, he will need to see significant reductions to the latter as we continue to have to spend a not insignificant proportion of our budget servicing the former.

    I rarely comment on matters Royal but the orchestrated character assassination of the Duchess of Sussex has been a wonder to behold. However bad it might have been for Jeremy Corbyn, it's been worse for Meghan. Last weekend, the interview with her and Harry was excoriated for being done while Prince Philip was in hospital. Today, she's an unapologetic bully (well, supposedly the Home Secretary might be one as well and she seems popular with a number here) which you can believe or not but it's clearly designed to repel her with the British public.

    I comment on matters Scottish even less frequently and I'm not changing that tonight.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 50,355
    Carnyx said:

    dr_spyn said:

    @Carnyx

    In case you have found some of those aircraft engine diagrams and charts hard to read, this is a link to enlarged versions.

    https://www.calum-douglas.com/the-secret-horsepower-race-image-archive/

    Thanks! I'm reading it chunk by chunk at bedtime right now, and enjoying the book very much. This will be useful.

    I had no idea, for instance, how important different fuels were.
    I think that he misses a trick by not going into more detail about the Bristol Centaurus and why *that* opportunity was missed.
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830

    Charles said:

    I came into this discussion thinking that the legacy UK parties were permafucked and the SNP would simply romp to yet another victory.

    However, I granted our guest authors the courtesy of reading their piece in full, anyway.

    The legacy UK parties are probably* permafucked and the SNP is probably* going to romp to yet another victory.


    *By probably I mean certainly, of course. The Conservatives and Labour don't merely have 'a lot of work to do in the next two months' to make significant progress. They need to build, test and commission a mind-control field generator that can successfully reprogram the brains of the entire population. Not even the Chinese have figured out how to make that happen.

    How do you know the Chinese haven’t?

    If they had wouldn’t they programme you to believe (a) they hadn’t and (b) you were living in a western democracy rather than under the iron fist of the Chinese jackboot
    How do you get your fist in a jackboot, Charles?
    The shoe is on the hand that fits, there's really nothing much to it
    Whistle through your teeth and spit 'cause it's alright
    Oh well a touch of grey kinda suits you anyway
    And that was all I had to say and it's alright

    Grateful Dead
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,203
    TimT said:

    Foxy said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Interesting that we're doing more jabs per day (proportionately) thna the USA but their criteria seem wider than ours in general right now.
    High takeup here ?

    I suspect that a much less socially equitable delivery in the USA, with significant gaps in both inner cities and Apalachia
    Actually, W Virginia is one of the star performers. But you are right that, particularly in urban settings, it seems that internet access - and the ability to sit for hours upon hours hitting the reset button - is a pre-requisite to getting one's vaccination appointment which, not surprisingly within any given cohort favours the affluent educated vs the poor hourly-paid service industry worker. Huge uptake differences in affluent N. Chicago vs poor S Chicago, which naturally translates into a white vs black/hispanic chasm.
    Sounds like all PBers would be vaxxed up in no time with the US' system
  • TimTTimT Posts: 6,468
    Pulpstar said:

    TimT said:

    Foxy said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Interesting that we're doing more jabs per day (proportionately) thna the USA but their criteria seem wider than ours in general right now.
    High takeup here ?

    I suspect that a much less socially equitable delivery in the USA, with significant gaps in both inner cities and Apalachia
    Actually, W Virginia is one of the star performers. But you are right that, particularly in urban settings, it seems that internet access - and the ability to sit for hours upon hours hitting the reset button - is a pre-requisite to getting one's vaccination appointment which, not surprisingly within any given cohort favours the affluent educated vs the poor hourly-paid service industry worker. Huge uptake differences in affluent N. Chicago vs poor S Chicago, which naturally translates into a white vs black/hispanic chasm.
    Sounds like all PBers would be vaxxed up in no time with the US' system
    Too true.
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 12,541
    TimT said:

    Foxy said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Interesting that we're doing more jabs per day (proportionately) thna the USA but their criteria seem wider than ours in general right now.
    High takeup here ?

    I suspect that a much less socially equitable delivery in the USA, with significant gaps in both inner cities and Apalachia
    Actually, W Virginia is one of the star performers. But you are right that, particularly in urban settings, it seems that internet access - and the ability to sit for hours upon hours hitting the reset button - is a pre-requisite to getting one's vaccination appointment which, not surprisingly within any given cohort favours the affluent educated vs the poor hourly-paid service industry worker. Huge uptake differences in affluent N. Chicago vs poor S Chicago, which naturally translates into a white vs black/hispanic chasm.
    West Virginia is no stranger to public health crises and is stepping up to the plate as a result. Good for them - it’s not a state that has had it east.

    Anecdotally, my in laws in CT mentioned to me yesterday that a lot of people are waiting for the J&J vaccine to save themselves the hassle of having to come back for a second shot. TBF that crossed my mind.
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 12,541

    Charles said:

    Breaking

    Bullying allegations against Duchess of Sussex

    Rehash of allegations made 2 years ago.

    Fundamentally she thinks that palace servants are “servants” in the way that Hollywood A listers - like she believes she is - abuse their staff. She doesn’t understand the more nuanced relationships the UK royals have with them
    I don't get this idea that you get the most out of your staff if you abuse them.

    It must be a status thing in the USA, because it sure enough isn't decent, or effective.
    As an employment lawyer I recommend regular beatings with sticks to improve morale.

  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 42,989
    Charles said:

    TOPPING said:

    Charles said:

    TOPPING said:

    Charles said:

    Breaking

    Bullying allegations against Duchess of Sussex

    Rehash of allegations made 2 years ago.

    Fundamentally she thinks that palace servants are “servants” in the way that Hollywood A listers - like she believes she is - abuse their staff. She doesn’t understand the more nuanced relationships the UK royals have with them
    You need to understand the difference between palace staff and households.
    I do. Her grace (I use the word advisedly) doesn’t
    Then your post was badly worded.
    I skimmed the allegations earlier when they came out & they used the word “servants” which is not one I’d usually use

    In any event, regardless of their place in the hierarchy, all team members deserve to be treated with courtesy
    Charles you must try to help clarify matters here on PB, not contribute to the confusion.
  • Black_RookBlack_Rook Posts: 8,905

    I came into this discussion thinking that the legacy UK parties were permafucked and the SNP would simply romp to yet another victory.

    However, I granted our guest authors the courtesy of reading their piece in full, anyway.

    The legacy UK parties are probably* permafucked and the SNP is probably* going to romp to yet another victory.


    *By probably I mean certainly, of course. The Conservatives and Labour don't merely have 'a lot of work to do in the next two months' to make significant progress. They need to build, test and commission a mind-control field generator that can successfully reprogram the brains of the entire population. Not even the Chinese have figured out how to make that happen.

    You could gave written that about Labour in Scotland 30 years ago
    So maybe the SNP only has thirty years left in power? You may very well be right. It depends rather on how long it actually takes them to get independence over the finishing line.

    I don't doubt that there are Scots who still feel British but they're a minority and, I think you'll find, a shrinking one at that - something that will be brutally laid bare by the results of this year's census, when I expect that the ratio of British to English/Scottish/Welsh/(Northern) Irish identification will have changed markedly all over the UK since 2011.

    The only thing that's holding the Union together now is money. If the average Scottish voter thought that she would be £1 per year better off out than in, she'd be off like a shot.
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    A twist on the classic QTWAIN.

    A thread with a A Question To Which Answer Is None.
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    TOPPING said:

    Charles said:

    TOPPING said:

    Charles said:

    TOPPING said:

    Charles said:

    Breaking

    Bullying allegations against Duchess of Sussex

    Rehash of allegations made 2 years ago.

    Fundamentally she thinks that palace servants are “servants” in the way that Hollywood A listers - like she believes she is - abuse their staff. She doesn’t understand the more nuanced relationships the UK royals have with them
    You need to understand the difference between palace staff and households.
    I do. Her grace (I use the word advisedly) doesn’t
    Then your post was badly worded.
    I skimmed the allegations earlier when they came out & they used the word “servants” which is not one I’d usually use

    In any event, regardless of their place in the hierarchy, all team members deserve to be treated with courtesy
    Charles you must try to help clarify matters here on PB, not contribute to the confusion.
    You’re not the boss of me 😁
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,710
    stodge said:

    Evening all :)

    Interesting Budget - the question is whether the rebound in economic activity is as strong as Sunak and the BoE believe and the impacts that will have on inflation and interest rates.

    Some on here witter on about the parallels with the "roaring twenties" - one more dubious parallel was hyperinflation in the early 20s as economic activity recovered from the war. The 1920s weren't just flappers and the Charleston - they were the decade of wheeling wheelbarrows of cash round to buy food. I suppose the equivalent now would be to raise the contactless card limit to £10 million so we can all go to the supermarket.

    There's no scope to cut taxes or to raise them and while I imagine Sunak might be hoping growth and inflation will help with both debt and deficit, he will need to see significant reductions to the latter as we continue to have to spend a not insignificant proportion of our budget servicing the former.

    I rarely comment on matters Royal but the orchestrated character assassination of the Duchess of Sussex has been a wonder to behold. However bad it might have been for Jeremy Corbyn, it's been worse for Meghan. Last weekend, the interview with her and Harry was excoriated for being done while Prince Philip was in hospital. Today, she's an unapologetic bully (well, supposedly the Home Secretary might be one as well and she seems popular with a number here) which you can believe or not but it's clearly designed to repel her with the British public.

    I comment on matters Scottish even less frequently and I'm not changing that tonight.

    Yes, it is an extraordinary coincidence that these 2 year old allegations are raked up the day after this was in the news. Why could that be? 🤔

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/mar/02/meghan-asks-for-front-page-apology-and-750000-costs-from-mail-on-sunday
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 42,989
    Charles said:

    TOPPING said:

    Charles said:

    TOPPING said:

    Charles said:

    TOPPING said:

    Charles said:

    Breaking

    Bullying allegations against Duchess of Sussex

    Rehash of allegations made 2 years ago.

    Fundamentally she thinks that palace servants are “servants” in the way that Hollywood A listers - like she believes she is - abuse their staff. She doesn’t understand the more nuanced relationships the UK royals have with them
    You need to understand the difference between palace staff and households.
    I do. Her grace (I use the word advisedly) doesn’t
    Then your post was badly worded.
    I skimmed the allegations earlier when they came out & they used the word “servants” which is not one I’d usually use

    In any event, regardless of their place in the hierarchy, all team members deserve to be treated with courtesy
    Charles you must try to help clarify matters here on PB, not contribute to the confusion.
    You’re not the boss of me 😁
    :smile:

    Like Harry you're always in service Charles.
  • I came into this discussion thinking that the legacy UK parties were permafucked and the SNP would simply romp to yet another victory.

    However, I granted our guest authors the courtesy of reading their piece in full, anyway.

    The legacy UK parties are probably* permafucked and the SNP is probably* going to romp to yet another victory.


    *By probably I mean certainly, of course. The Conservatives and Labour don't merely have 'a lot of work to do in the next two months' to make significant progress. They need to build, test and commission a mind-control field generator that can successfully reprogram the brains of the entire population. Not even the Chinese have figured out how to make that happen.

    You could gave written that about Labour in Scotland 30 years ago
    So maybe the SNP only has thirty years left in power? You may very well be right. It depends rather on how long it actually takes them to get independence over the finishing line.

    I don't doubt that there are Scots who still feel British but they're a minority and, I think you'll find, a shrinking one at that - something that will be brutally laid bare by the results of this year's census, when I expect that the ratio of British to English/Scottish/Welsh/(Northern) Irish identification will have changed markedly all over the UK since 2011.

    The only thing that's holding the Union together now is money. If the average Scottish voter thought that she would be £1 per year better off out than in, she'd be off like a shot.
    The most recent poll was 50/50 and independence falling in the polls and this before these hearings

    It is no means certain that Scotland will vote for independence
  • stodgestodge Posts: 13,892
    As expected, my letter inviting me to get a vaccination arrived this morning.

    Looking at the letter, I have to say (and I just wonder if this could be part of the problem), there's no advice on the front about how to get a vaccination beyond the NHS website. I could imagine some individuals finding it confusing, not looking at the back and throwing it in the bin.

    There's an in-built presumption to Internet access and as a Councillor once said to me at a meeting - "we aren't all wired up, you know".
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 12,541
    Interestingly the revised Acas workplace Covid guidance has (today I think) removed its recommendation that employers refrain from insisting on being vaccinated. I think that may be revised again as the issues are ironed out but does indicate a direction of travel.
  • Foxy said:

    stodge said:

    Evening all :)

    Interesting Budget - the question is whether the rebound in economic activity is as strong as Sunak and the BoE believe and the impacts that will have on inflation and interest rates.

    Some on here witter on about the parallels with the "roaring twenties" - one more dubious parallel was hyperinflation in the early 20s as economic activity recovered from the war. The 1920s weren't just flappers and the Charleston - they were the decade of wheeling wheelbarrows of cash round to buy food. I suppose the equivalent now would be to raise the contactless card limit to £10 million so we can all go to the supermarket.

    There's no scope to cut taxes or to raise them and while I imagine Sunak might be hoping growth and inflation will help with both debt and deficit, he will need to see significant reductions to the latter as we continue to have to spend a not insignificant proportion of our budget servicing the former.

    I rarely comment on matters Royal but the orchestrated character assassination of the Duchess of Sussex has been a wonder to behold. However bad it might have been for Jeremy Corbyn, it's been worse for Meghan. Last weekend, the interview with her and Harry was excoriated for being done while Prince Philip was in hospital. Today, she's an unapologetic bully (well, supposedly the Home Secretary might be one as well and she seems popular with a number here) which you can believe or not but it's clearly designed to repel her with the British public.

    I comment on matters Scottish even less frequently and I'm not changing that tonight.

    Yes, it is an extraordinary coincidence that these 2 year old allegations are raked up the day after this was in the news. Why could that be? 🤔

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/mar/02/meghan-asks-for-front-page-apology-and-750000-costs-from-mail-on-sunday
    Maybe check out the details and validity first
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,598

    Three hours late and today's Covid update is still delayed, grrr....

    Perhaps they can't find any....?
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    edited March 2021
    TOPPING said:

    Charles said:

    TOPPING said:

    Charles said:

    TOPPING said:

    Charles said:

    TOPPING said:

    Charles said:

    Breaking

    Bullying allegations against Duchess of Sussex

    Rehash of allegations made 2 years ago.

    Fundamentally she thinks that palace servants are “servants” in the way that Hollywood A listers - like she believes she is - abuse their staff. She doesn’t understand the more nuanced relationships the UK royals have with them
    You need to understand the difference between palace staff and households.
    I do. Her grace (I use the word advisedly) doesn’t
    Then your post was badly worded.
    I skimmed the allegations earlier when they came out & they used the word “servants” which is not one I’d usually use

    In any event, regardless of their place in the hierarchy, all team members deserve to be treated with courtesy
    Charles you must try to help clarify matters here on PB, not contribute to the confusion.
    You’re not the boss of me 😁
    :smile:

    Like Harry you're always in service Charles.
    I may be a ginger second son of ancient lineage and have a California wife, but

    I AM NOTHING LIKE HARRY!!!!

    it will be pistols at dawn next time you suggest otherwise
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,586
    stodge said:

    As expected, my letter inviting me to get a vaccination arrived this morning.

    Looking at the letter, I have to say (and I just wonder if this could be part of the problem), there's no advice on the front about how to get a vaccination beyond the NHS website. I could imagine some individuals finding it confusing, not looking at the back and throwing it in the bin.

    There's an in-built presumption to Internet access and as a Councillor once said to me at a meeting - "we aren't all wired up, you know".

    +1
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,598

    Do Americans just watch the Disney fairytale films as kids and think that that's what being a Royal Princess is actually like?

    Do children of the House of Windsor think that that's what being a Royal Princess is actually like?
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,429
    One intriguing insight offered by Sturgeon’s evidence is how people can have entirely different perspectives on the exact same thing.

    eg Magnus Linklater, no Nationalist, thinks Sturgeon did pretty well today, though she left questions unanswered

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/nicola-sturgeons-robust-performance-before-the-inquiry-ensures-her-political-survival-n820qc80n

    I struggle to believe we watched the same hearing. She did not do ‘well’ - to my mind. I saw the whole shebang, all 8 hours (tragically) and I made a determined effort to be neutral. Why lie to yourself?

    She hummed and hawed, she told obvious untruths (see below), she looked more rattled than I’ve ever seen before, she got confused, she attacked Salmond way too much, and she admitted that some crucial parts of her OWN evidence were implausible - yet she could not explain why we should still believe her. And she was reduced to near tears.

    In her favour, she endured. 8 hours would trouble anyone. Bailie was a formidable interrogator, but Sturgeon survived. There was no knockout blow.

    But ‘did well’? No way. 6/10 at best

    However I am forced to confront the fact that, as I am a Unionist, it is impossible for me to be neutral, and my unconscious bias will always show. And that’s true of everyone - no one can be TRULY neutral. Which is a bit depressing

    Or Magnus Linklater is talking bollox. Also possible
  • FenmanFenman Posts: 1,047
    Andy_JS said:

    My mood has suddenly improved on finding out that the 4th test match is starting tonight. Thought it was 8th March for some reason.

    Let us know how you feel in a couple of days time.
  • Black_RookBlack_Rook Posts: 8,905

    Three hours late and today's Covid update is still delayed, grrr....

    Now up - addition of some historic cases from Scotland seems to be the cause of the holdup.

    The UK case rate has declined from 94.9 per 100k yesterday to 89.2 per 100k today. Deaths are down by a full third week-on-week.

    The case map shows the same collection of stubborn hotspots so I don't think it's been revised today.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,930
    edited March 2021
    stodge said:

    As expected, my letter inviting me to get a vaccination arrived this morning.

    Looking at the letter, I have to say (and I just wonder if this could be part of the problem), there's no advice on the front about how to get a vaccination beyond the NHS website. I could imagine some individuals finding it confusing, not looking at the back and throwing it in the bin.

    There's an in-built presumption to Internet access and as a Councillor once said to me at a meeting - "we aren't all wired up, you know".

    It was foretold.

    As for confusion, isn't the website where you book the vaccination? Hard to give more information in the letter since it depends on where and when you select when you make the booking yourself. If it was really confusing we'd be seeing lower takeup everywhere.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 50,355
    DougSeal said:

    Charles said:

    Breaking

    Bullying allegations against Duchess of Sussex

    Rehash of allegations made 2 years ago.

    Fundamentally she thinks that palace servants are “servants” in the way that Hollywood A listers - like she believes she is - abuse their staff. She doesn’t understand the more nuanced relationships the UK royals have with them
    I don't get this idea that you get the most out of your staff if you abuse them.

    It must be a status thing in the USA, because it sure enough isn't decent, or effective.
    As an employment lawyer I recommend regular beatings with sticks to improve morale.

    Speaking of the Imperial Japanese Navy....

    I always liked the story of how they emptied the liquid oxygen from from the torpedos. After the war, the Americans were trying to find out their secret. It was a very, very dangerous process.

    It turned out that the Japanese methodology consisted of -

    - drag the torpedo up onto a remote beach.
    - the most junior torpedo man available
    - a spanner
    - distance
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 10,770
    Re: Header. Good to see some outside sources here. Nothing new, but a decent snapshot of the times. Boris will become slightly more popular in Scotland.

    Budget: Even on reflection I think Sunak has got away with his smash and grab.

    Sturgeon: I think she's gotten away too. There remains a nasty stink over the political arrangements, but that can be sorted out. Better that it is now anyway. Although I hate the idea of Scottish independence (not my call though), I hate the idea of a really bad version of it far more. (That does not mean in the slightest that the Scots don't get a great big chunk of our shared debt though)

    This has been an interesting day! (Thank god!)

  • dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,300

    Carnyx said:

    dr_spyn said:

    @Carnyx

    In case you have found some of those aircraft engine diagrams and charts hard to read, this is a link to enlarged versions.

    https://www.calum-douglas.com/the-secret-horsepower-race-image-archive/

    Thanks! I'm reading it chunk by chunk at bedtime right now, and enjoying the book very much. This will be useful.

    I had no idea, for instance, how important different fuels were.
    I think that he misses a trick by not going into more detail about the Bristol Centaurus and why *that* opportunity was missed.
    I may have to look again at the book, but on my first reading, I thought that Fedden had given up poppet valves for sleeve valves which pushed the limits on machining, metallurgy and lubrication.

    There is reference to Bristol's high altitude supercharged single row Pegasus engine which powered the Type 138 monoplane. As you mention, there may be an oversight about Bristol's slow response to develop supercharging for the following generations of two row radial engines. It might be a factor which led to Fedden's enforced retirement.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,421
    That was a long day. All those live lessons, plus two zoom meetings, plus a shedload of marking.

    I take it nothing exciting happened in politics today as I haven’t heard anyone resigned?
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,429
    edited March 2021

    Leon said:

    MaxPB said:

    It won't be the inquiry itself that changes people's minds it will be the idea that the FM directed the apparatus of the government to persecute an individual that was a political enemy that will do it. Both Labour and Tory need to absolutely hammer this point home over and over again until election day. What kind of country is the SNP looking to create? Will it look like England, Sweden or Denmark? Or will it look like Zimbabwe or Russia where the politicians in power try and take down their rivals using different arms of the state.

    Also depends on what Salmond does. Is there still time and space for another maneuver?

    He must have been seething today. Sturgeon denounced him many times, and essentially labelled him as guilty. Despite his being acquitted of all charges.

    He will want blood. Again
    The relationship between Sturgeon & Salmond has become one of extraordinary guilt, recrimination and bitterness.

    How did that happen?

    I think Sturgeon was well aware of Salmond's inappropriate behaviour long before she became First Minister. She feels so bitter because she is compromised by the fact that she had to stay silent on his behalf. She was forced to betray her beliefs and convictions. Though she could not act while Salmond was so powerful, she could when she became FM. She knows that Salmond is guilty, she repeated it again today. She is so emotionally committed to convicting Salmond that she has been caught out in lies, and possibly worse.

    And Salmond feels bitter because he believes he has been stabbed in the back by his former protege. He believes that his misdemeanours were minor -- maybe he now accepts they were inappropriate, but they were minor -- and by exposing his weaknesses, she has reduced him to a rather ridiculous, lecherous figure & she has damaged the cause of independence. She has betrayed him.

    The ferocity with which they attack each other speaks of terrible personal guilt and betrayal.

    Very eloquent, highly plausible
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,083
    edited March 2021
    Leon said:

    One intriguing insight offered by Sturgeon’s evidence is how people can have entirely different perspectives on the exact same thing.

    eg Magnus Linklater, no Nationalist, thinks Sturgeon did pretty well today, though she left questions unanswered

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/nicola-sturgeons-robust-performance-before-the-inquiry-ensures-her-political-survival-n820qc80n

    I struggle to believe we watched the same hearing. She did not do ‘well’ - to my mind. I saw the whole shebang, all 8 hours (tragically) and I made a determined effort to be neutral. Why lie to yourself?

    She hummed and hawed, she told obvious untruths (see below), she looked more rattled than I’ve ever seen before, she got confused, she attacked Salmond way too much, and she admitted that some crucial parts of her OWN evidence were implausible - yet she could not explain why we should still believe her. And she was reduced to near tears.

    In her favour, she endured. 8 hours would trouble anyone. Bailie was a formidable interrogator, but Sturgeon survived. There was no knockout blow.

    But ‘did well’? No way. 6/10 at best

    However I am forced to confront the fact that, as I am a Unionist, it is impossible for me to be neutral, and my unconscious bias will always show. And that’s true of everyone - no one can be TRULY neutral. Which is a bit depressing

    Or Magnus Linklater is talking bollox. Also possible

    You need to go on Coke's new training course titled "be less unionist".
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 50,355
    dr_spyn said:

    Carnyx said:

    dr_spyn said:

    @Carnyx

    In case you have found some of those aircraft engine diagrams and charts hard to read, this is a link to enlarged versions.

    https://www.calum-douglas.com/the-secret-horsepower-race-image-archive/

    Thanks! I'm reading it chunk by chunk at bedtime right now, and enjoying the book very much. This will be useful.

    I had no idea, for instance, how important different fuels were.
    I think that he misses a trick by not going into more detail about the Bristol Centaurus and why *that* opportunity was missed.
    I may have to look again at the book, but on my first reading, I thought that Fedden had given up poppet valves for sleeve valves which pushed the limits on machining, metallurgy and lubrication.

    There is reference to Bristol's high altitude supercharged single row Pegasus engine which powered the Type 138 monoplane. As you mention, there may be an oversight about Bristol's slow response to develop supercharging for the following generations of two row radial engines. It might be a factor which led to Fedden's enforced retirement.
    There are bits and pieces - but the Centaurus was running in 1938. With a bit more effort, it could have been running at 2k horsepower a lot earlier.

    The problem is that the book jumps around. There is a summation for some of the engines and manufacturers, but not all.
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 10,770
    Charles said:

    TOPPING said:

    Charles said:

    TOPPING said:

    Charles said:

    TOPPING said:

    Charles said:

    TOPPING said:

    Charles said:

    Breaking

    Bullying allegations against Duchess of Sussex

    Rehash of allegations made 2 years ago.

    Fundamentally she thinks that palace servants are “servants” in the way that Hollywood A listers - like she believes she is - abuse their staff. She doesn’t understand the more nuanced relationships the UK royals have with them
    You need to understand the difference between palace staff and households.
    I do. Her grace (I use the word advisedly) doesn’t
    Then your post was badly worded.
    I skimmed the allegations earlier when they came out & they used the word “servants” which is not one I’d usually use

    In any event, regardless of their place in the hierarchy, all team members deserve to be treated with courtesy
    Charles you must try to help clarify matters here on PB, not contribute to the confusion.
    You’re not the boss of me 😁
    :smile:

    Like Harry you're always in service Charles.
    I may be a ginger second son of ancient lineage and have a California wife, but

    I AM NOTHING LIKE HARRY!!!!

    it will be pistols at dawn next time you suggest otherwise
    Only the real Harry would have pistols available. You're painting yourself into a corner! (I actually did slightly varnish myself into a corner once)



  • stodgestodge Posts: 13,892
    RobD said:



    It was foretold.

    As for confusion, isn't the website where you book the vaccination? Hard to give more information in the letter since it depends on where and when you select when you make the booking yourself. If it was really confusing we'd be seeing lower takeup everywhere.

    You misunderstand, my friend.

    Using the website is simple and I have no complaints whatsoever about that process.

    However, not everyone has a computer or uses the Internet. There is nothing on the front page of the letter to tell someone who doesn't use a computer or the Internet how to book a vaccination - it's all on the reverse and I just wonder how many will bother.

    I also got the census letter today - I wonder what the take-up on that will be?

  • BluestBlueBluestBlue Posts: 4,556
    stodge said:

    As expected, my letter inviting me to get a vaccination arrived this morning.

    Looking at the letter, I have to say (and I just wonder if this could be part of the problem), there's no advice on the front about how to get a vaccination beyond the NHS website. I could imagine some individuals finding it confusing, not looking at the back and throwing it in the bin.

    There's an in-built presumption to Internet access and as a Councillor once said to me at a meeting - "we aren't all wired up, you know".

    Yes, all individuals canny enough to cotton on to the existence of Operation Newham World Order receive such letters. Don't be surprised if your appointment happens to direct you to a derelict warehouse next to the Beckton Sewage Treatment Works...
  • Black_RookBlack_Rook Posts: 8,905

    I came into this discussion thinking that the legacy UK parties were permafucked and the SNP would simply romp to yet another victory.

    However, I granted our guest authors the courtesy of reading their piece in full, anyway.

    The legacy UK parties are probably* permafucked and the SNP is probably* going to romp to yet another victory.


    *By probably I mean certainly, of course. The Conservatives and Labour don't merely have 'a lot of work to do in the next two months' to make significant progress. They need to build, test and commission a mind-control field generator that can successfully reprogram the brains of the entire population. Not even the Chinese have figured out how to make that happen.

    You could gave written that about Labour in Scotland 30 years ago
    So maybe the SNP only has thirty years left in power? You may very well be right. It depends rather on how long it actually takes them to get independence over the finishing line.

    I don't doubt that there are Scots who still feel British but they're a minority and, I think you'll find, a shrinking one at that - something that will be brutally laid bare by the results of this year's census, when I expect that the ratio of British to English/Scottish/Welsh/(Northern) Irish identification will have changed markedly all over the UK since 2011.

    The only thing that's holding the Union together now is money. If the average Scottish voter thought that she would be £1 per year better off out than in, she'd be off like a shot.
    The most recent poll was 50/50 and independence falling in the polls and this before these hearings

    It is no means certain that Scotland will vote for independence
    Well, there's a long way to go, and we shall see.

    The Achilles' heel of the independence movement is, as I said before, money. If a large part of the Scottish electorate didn't believe that separation would put their taxes up then they'd have voted to go in 2014. And it could yet do for the nationalists again - although quite why the maintenance of a state that's held together mainly by bribery is something that is either morally healthy or to be desired is never adequately explained.

    OTOH 'you will be poorer if you do this' was the central theme of David Cameron's campaign to vanquish Brexit, and look what became of him.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,930
    stodge said:

    RobD said:



    It was foretold.

    As for confusion, isn't the website where you book the vaccination? Hard to give more information in the letter since it depends on where and when you select when you make the booking yourself. If it was really confusing we'd be seeing lower takeup everywhere.

    You misunderstand, my friend.

    Using the website is simple and I have no complaints whatsoever about that process.

    However, not everyone has a computer or uses the Internet. There is nothing on the front page of the letter to tell someone who doesn't use a computer or the Internet how to book a vaccination - it's all on the reverse and I just wonder how many will bother.

    I also got the census letter today - I wonder what the take-up on that will be?

    It's confusing because there is additional information on the back?
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 41,995
  • What can stop the SNP juggernaut? Short of a Salmondista splinter party, I'm not sure anything can,
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,586
    "But even to get an appointment in the first place, users must navigate a digital platform that has become a byword for clunkiness. Visitors to the portal, embraced by five of Germany’s 16 states, have to go through 10 online steps, including 2-factor authentication — a tricky task for an octogenarian. In Poland, by contrast, you simply enter your social security number.

    “The system’s a piece of shit,” said one German health official in a state that had embraced the platform. He said he and his colleagues “want to shoot ourselves it’s so bad. I can’t believe we chained ourselves to this.”

    The official said that for months the website was only able to give users one appointment — although two are needed for a full inoculation — and does not allow them to go on a waiting list to be notified when more vaccine doses become available. “It’s totally amateurish and incredibly inflexible,” he said.

    The sense of shame is growing. “This chaos with the allocation of vaccine appointments is absolutely unworthy of a high-tech nation like Germany,” said Achim Berg, head of Bitkom, a digital lobby group."

    https://www.ft.com/content/33f8ffd6-066b-449c-bf7e-edd51d661b19
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