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Was Jack Cade Right – would society be better with fewer lawyers? – politicalbetting.com
“The first thing we do, let’s kill all the lawyers.” A cheer from half the audience at that and its response (“that I mean to do”); a groan from the other half followed. Whoever would have thought a Barbican audience would consist of lawyers and their clients!
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Q. What's the difference between a human sperm and a lawyer?
A. The sperm has a one in eightmillion chance of becoming a human being.
Laters everyone.
But FPT - Thank you for that. I do however suspect that Messrs BJ and DC - not to mention Mr Gove - would try and use the poisoned pawn a la Cunningham in 1978 and dare the SNP to vote it down.
FPT not inventing laws that don't exist either would be good too. Sedition isn't a crime in Scotland. High Treason is a very limited crime under the law. What did Sturgeon do that was High Treason?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_treason_in_the_United_Kingdom#:~:text=Under the law of the United Kingdom, high,is the crime of disloyalty to the Crown.
Did Sturgeon plot the death of the Queen?
Did she "violate" Camilla?
Did she levy war in the realm?
Did she adhere to sovereign's enemies?
Did she murder the Lord Chancellor or Lord High Treasurer?
Did she attempt to stop Charles for succeeding to the throne?
Did she kill the Lords of Session or Lords of Justiciary?
Did she counterfeit the Great Seal of Scotland?
If you're going to arrest someone they need to break an actual law not one you made up in your head like "sedition".
Lots of people were expecting a really sizeable increase.
Absolute disgrace, how can she plan testing when she has not even considered when the next demand in testing will come?
Its both Unaffordable and Morally Wrong to feed hungry kids.
Then a day later
Its great news that this government is feeding hungry kids
Both positions from the mouths of spinless wazzock Tory MPs. So I don't care what a Tory MP is saying on any given subject on any given day - when ordered to say the exact opposite they will do so without drawing a breath.
Have sent a Vanilla email to a group of people but would be particularly obliged if you could respond.
Thanks.
PtP
Surely it is more important that when the next sizeable increase occurs, whenever it occurs, we are ready for it? We have the capacity and can scale up our response?
Life reduced to a minute-by-minute anarchy of temporary corporeal power relations maybe desirable for some, but I'm with Hobbes in thinking that it would be solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2020-54882647
What we have to resist on this side of the Atlantic is the idea that the law is a political playground where highly partisan lawyers and politicians can make laws that are written and interpreted to bypass good governance and process. I know that such accusations were thrown at the Supreme Court when it ruled the prorogation to be improper, but that was mainly based on wild accusations attributing the action to being a proxy for the Brexit argument.
The Rule of Law is critically important. For shame that the government seem perfectly content to subvert it for their own tactical reasons.
In response to posts on last thread between @Philip_Thompson and @HYUFD
HYUFD you accuse Philip of not being a Tory because he has voted for another party in the past and that to be a Tory he must always vote Tory
Below is the reply I made on the last thread:
What happened to principles? As discussed before you are not supporting a football team.
If the LDs started to support Fascism or Communism I'm off. I joined them because of what I believe in, not because I like the colour Orange.
I feel free to vote for whoever I like and I am still a Liberal.
I am classically liberal. I believe in social liberalism and economic liberalism in the classic sense though that now gets called dry or conservative.
The Conservatives, the party of Thatcher, Cameron, Osborne etc cover that for me. If they stop representing me, and Theresa May did not, then I will stop supporting them.
The party you vote for should reflect your beliefs. Your beliefs should not reflect the party you vote for.
The return to schools has already happened. There is no return due again until after the next summer holidays which isn't what testing needs to be thinking about right now.
Its incredulous that the remit of the head of testing hasnt got a view or any interest in the expected demand for testing.
https://order-order.com/2020/11/10/number-10s-message-to-biden-originally-congratulated-trump
Much of it seems to be created by copy & pasta....
I am trying to remember the science fiction writer - might be Charlie Stross - who postulated that one endpoint for civilisations would be for an entire star system to be turned into Matrioshka brains. These would, until the end of time, run AIs which are sentient descendants of corporations/government functions, interacting through ever more complex legal systems they spin between themselves. The original, biological entities would be long extinct.
Rasmussen -1 to +5
Ipsos -12 to -9
Could be just noise, or an initial hardening among Republican supporters
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/
https://twitter.com/LeaskyHT/status/1326111467201028096?s=20
Freshers Flu happens in September not January for a reason. Kids having Christmas off and restarting after a two week break isn't same thing as the return after the summer holidays.
https://i.imgur.com/xNWBX1Q.png
https://i.imgur.com/3mwd56z.png
The second one is much clearer. This has to be deliberate. Any sane person would simply delete the previous image or at the very least replace the text in the text box in whatever software they are using.
I believe in the Conservative Party of Robert Peel, Benjamin Disraeli, Margaret Thatcher, David Cameron etc . . . what do you believe in?
Very much of a piece.
The issue is that the head of testing, not only doesn't know either, she has zero interest in considering and investigating if there will be one.
I despise Guido / Skwarkbox and the "journalism" they represent but occasionally they generate an actual story and this definitely is a story.
I thought Cummings was supposed to be the master communicator?
So I repeat you do not believe in the same party they do, you are not, never have been and never will be a Tory or a Conservative even in its 19th century guise when you would have been a Liberal not a Tory or its current guise when you have more in common with New Labour, Farage or even the Orange Book LDs than you do the Conservative Party
gayTory in the villageI couldn't care less if they were all Anglicans either, that isn't what they are most famous for. Peel created the modern Conservative Party, repealed the Corn Laws, carried Catholic emancipation etc - you are nothing like that. You know nothing about our own parties history it seems and are more of a relic than Jacob Rees Mogg.
But they have both failed because they are so narrowly focused, not looking at the big picture and planning ahead.
I once had a discussion with some lawyers, where the subject of constitutionalism came up. In their view, a country like Switzerland, where the population can (nearly) completely control the law through referenda was not "right:". This was, in their view, because what they regarded as fundamental rights were not untouchable by this method of change.
That is, they wanted certain rights to be legally defined. But utterly unchangeable by any process. Said rights to be defined by.... well, themselves.
The problem with this idea is that a constitution etc is a nice idea. But people change. So the law needs to change. Not by re-interpretation. Actually change.
"Can't" isn't a word that will last in a democracy.
Might be the day before we get a competent government.
(This is not to take a pop at the ONS or their infection survey - they're doing an excellent job in finding decent data; it's just that it is, by its nature, subject to revision).
Using the hospitalisation data figures (as Wales has different rules than the other nations for hospitalisation, I've taken the England figures and multiplied by 1.2, which will be a source of error as an approximation as the other Home Nations are following different strategies, but it will be broadly accurate), I took the lagged deaths-per-hospitalisation (running at about 26.5% looking at the recent average).
This will obviously be fairly accurate for past days; it's the projection that's interesting. It does project a discernably lower peak than the historical-IFR-against-infection-estimates.
I therefore have a mental preference for this, of course. It will be interesting to see which one marches closer with the data as it comes in. (I'm rooting for the lower one).
Deaths from lagged hospitalisations are shown in light blue. Actual deaths in red. Original projections against estimated infection rates in light yellow (so it colours the red to orange when the deaths are below that projection).
The UK's unwritten constitution has provided a more stable guarantee of basic rights than constitutionalism has achieved in a great many places.
gayTory in the village. Most political parties want people to identify with them. Support them. Vote for them. HYUFD seems to think the Conservative Party is his own personal fiefdom, with anybody else not worthy of being called a Conservative.This Epping Conservative Association he runs. Does it have many members? Do they get the same absurd elitism from the chair?
I've seen Momentum branches run in a more inclusive manner.
I do not agree with Philip on the Union but just what gives you the right to say he is not a conservative, just as you say the same thing to me because on just two occasions in my 77 years I voted for Blair, the rest solid conservative
Not only that I was campaigning for the party in the sixties and was asked to be a conservative county councillor in the 1966. Not one person I have canvassed with over five decades would recognise your extreme intolerant views about myself .
You need to show far more compassion and understanding as you are a very divisive character in our party which belongs to all of us, not you nor are you the arbiter of who is a conservative
It's really odd, isn't it? Can only imagine that a soft eraser/soft brush tool or clone tool from other parts of te background was used to obliterate the original text and the job was not sufficiently thorough in the couple of places. But I can't imagine why anyone would do it that way instead of starting from a new image (obvious approach) or simply using a colour matched rectangle to cover the text (hacky approach, but would also work). It's just a plain background, so not hard to do either.
The other odd thing is, with all the polling, why would you have a Trump version prepared and not a Biden version? Or, if both were done in advance why do the Trump version first and - particularly - why not do a proper job?
Does make me wonder what else might be hiding in the background of other No. 10 tweets if the same person has been doing these images for a while!
You are a remainer. You think that the UK would be better off inside the EU. And well done you for not shying away from that. But the Conservative Party does not think like you. It thinks the UK would be better off outside the EU.
Hence, either you shouldn't be in party, or your political beliefs mean nothing whatsoever because they change on a whim.
That is, in itself, is very revealing about a certain kind of Tory mindset. And chimes with much of the present attitude and travails of the government.
Which is fine because to be a Cons MP that is what you need and what you need to have been via your social media presence. And when the time comes he will be able to point to his unswerving loyalty to the Conservative Party on social media, as with everywhere else.
His dirty little secret (he is a remainer) he hopes to disguise by his "will of the people" schtick.
In Epping Forest prospective members now have to undergo an interview to check they share Tory values and their commitment to the party before they are allowed to join the party
There are other more interesting and salacious interpretaions but Occam's razor and all that...
Be good for Epping Forest to become a swing seat one day so you can face a bit of reality.
Were you dropped on your head as a child? Being an Anglican is not a Tory value.
Please find me anywhere in the Conservative Manifesto or Conservative Party Code of Conduct that states that being an Anglican is a Tory value.
Btw, must get back to you on 'the main event'. Much to say, mostly uncontroversial, but too mightliy distracted by current instabilty in the US so may have to keep for a bit.
Warm regards
PtP
In theory, a set of tablets, guarded by the High Priests (all venerable and above reproach) sounds like a good idea. But....
Back to the favourite Roman example - Ceasarism was the end result of the oligarchs (The Senate) declaring that they not only controlled Rome, they controlled the constitution and the interpretation of it. Anyone passing laws they didn't like - well, head count reduction was their answer.
A constitution needs to reflect the will of the people. If you don't trust the people, then what you want is not democracy.
Ultimately, any freedom that will survive has to be rooted in the support of the populace, in a democracy.
What the constitution can do, in such as system, is work as a sort of seven-day-average, avoiding the day to day spikes in popularity of various things. The Swiss system isn't *instant* popular democracy - and specifically for that reason IIRC.