Bugger. The one significant improvement of lockdown reversed.
You could just do what I do and don't eat at them
Well, on a personal level that’s acceptable. Indeed, I haven’t set foot in one in 18 years.
But whatever food substitutes they supply are to put it mildly less than optimal for the nation’s health.
Are we not always being told people are living too long? Studies have shown those that live healthily cost more in terms of health care
What a vile post.
Oh dear does repeating what the left and right have both said as an excuse for raising pension ages upset you mr battery? hands you a kleenex
What you said is that people that people should eat McDonalds as it will mean they live less long and that's a good thing. You're wishing an early death on people.
Vile.
P.S. Thought you weren't responding anymore?
I never said people should eat mcDonalds I said I avoided it. Show me where I encouraged people to eat mcDonalds? I merely implied if people want to eat it let them
Its funny how at the lowest fast food chain you can eat them as in Eat McDonalds or I am going to eat KFC but go just one rung higher and you cannot eat them as in I am going to eat Aberdeen Steak House or going to eat Frankie and Bennys just doesn't make sense.
Isn’t it “eat a MaccyD” or “eat a KFC”
It’s a recognition that they are a synthetic, homogenised product that masquerades as food (in the way Jacob’s Creek pretends to be wine). At least with Aberdeen Steak House or Garfunkel’s you’re getting real food
Well, I have long had a soft spot for a McDonald's. The coffee is better than the coffee chains and less than half the price. I am particularly fond of a sausage egg McMuffin for a breakfast treat occasionally.
Last time I had KFC it was horribly greasy, so put me right off, and in any case I am not so keen in ch8cken in any form.
Cunning Foxy claims to have no interest in chicken. Hmmmm...
There are worse ingredients than McDs on the market. I doubt KFC chicken passes my personal animal welfare standards.
I thought it was clear by my comment, I didn't mean foreign people that live in this country, I meant people who live abroad, buy property in this country that they never live in. Often it's used for money laundering.
I thought based on my post history that would be relatively clear that I didn't mean foreigners can't buy housing in general but if was unclear I apologise.
Bugger. The one significant improvement of lockdown reversed.
You could just do what I do and don't eat at them
Well, on a personal level that’s acceptable. Indeed, I haven’t set foot in one in 18 years.
But whatever food substitutes they supply are to put it mildly less than optimal for the nation’s health.
Are we not always being told people are living too long? Studies have shown those that live healthily cost more in terms of health care
What a vile post.
Oh dear does repeating what the left and right have both said as an excuse for raising pension ages upset you mr battery? hands you a kleenex
What you said is that people that people should eat McDonalds as it will mean they live less long and that's a good thing. You're wishing an early death on people.
Vile.
P.S. Thought you weren't responding anymore?
I never said people should eat mcDonalds I said I avoided it. Show me where I encouraged people to eat mcDonalds? I merely implied if people want to eat it let them
Its funny how at the lowest fast food chain you can eat them as in Eat McDonalds or I am going to eat KFC but go just one rung higher and you cannot eat them as in I am going to eat Aberdeen Steak House or going to eat Frankie and Bennys just doesn't make sense.
Isn’t it “eat a MaccyD” or “eat a KFC”
It’s a recognition that they are a synthetic, homogenised product that masquerades as food (in the way Jacob’s Creek pretends to be wine). At least with Aberdeen Steak House or Garfunkel’s you’re getting real food
Well, I have long had a soft spot for a McDonald's. The coffee is better than the coffee chains and less than half the price. I am particularly fond of a sausage egg McMuffin for a breakfast treat occasionally.
Last time I had KFC it was horribly greasy, so put me right off, and in any case I am not so keen in ch8cken in any form.
Cunning Foxy claims to have no interest in chicken. Hmmmm...
There are worse ingredients than McDs on the market. I doubt KFC chicken passes my personal animal welfare standards.
Bugger. The one significant improvement of lockdown reversed.
You could just do what I do and don't eat at them
Well, on a personal level that’s acceptable. Indeed, I haven’t set foot in one in 18 years.
But whatever food substitutes they supply are to put it mildly less than optimal for the nation’s health.
Are we not always being told people are living too long? Studies have shown those that live healthily cost more in terms of health care
What a vile post.
Oh dear does repeating what the left and right have both said as an excuse for raising pension ages upset you mr battery? hands you a kleenex
What you said is that people that people should eat McDonalds as it will mean they live less long and that's a good thing. You're wishing an early death on people.
Vile.
P.S. Thought you weren't responding anymore?
I never said people should eat mcDonalds I said I avoided it. Show me where I encouraged people to eat mcDonalds? I merely implied if people want to eat it let them
Its funny how at the lowest fast food chain you can eat them as in Eat McDonalds or I am going to eat KFC but go just one rung higher and you cannot eat them as in I am going to eat Aberdeen Steak House or going to eat Frankie and Bennys just doesn't make sense.
Isn’t it “eat a MaccyD” or “eat a KFC”
It’s a recognition that they are a synthetic, homogenised product that masquerades as food (in the way Jacob’s Creek pretends to be wine). At least with Aberdeen Steak House or Garfunkel’s you’re getting real food
Well, I have long had a soft spot for a McDonald's. The coffee is better than the coffee chains and less than half the price. I am particularly fond of a sausage egg McMuffin for a breakfast treat occasionally.
Last time I had KFC it was horribly greasy, so put me right off, and in any case I am not so keen in ch8cken in any form.
Cunning Foxy claims to have no interest in chicken. Hmmmm...
There are worse ingredients than McDs on the market. I doubt KFC chicken passes my personal animal welfare standards.
The chicken is dead, for a start.
Yes, takes away all the fun...
Just need to watch out for kimono wearing Remaniacs. .
Bugger. The one significant improvement of lockdown reversed.
You could just do what I do and don't eat at them
Well, on a personal level that’s acceptable. Indeed, I haven’t set foot in one in 18 years.
But whatever food substitutes they supply are to put it mildly less than optimal for the nation’s health.
Are we not always being told people are living too long? Studies have shown those that live healthily cost more in terms of health care
What a vile post.
Oh dear does repeating what the left and right have both said as an excuse for raising pension ages upset you mr battery? hands you a kleenex
What you said is that people that people should eat McDonalds as it will mean they live less long and that's a good thing. You're wishing an early death on people.
Vile.
P.S. Thought you weren't responding anymore?
I never said people should eat mcDonalds I said I avoided it. Show me where I encouraged people to eat mcDonalds? I merely implied if people want to eat it let them
Its funny how at the lowest fast food chain you can eat them as in Eat McDonalds or I am going to eat KFC but go just one rung higher and you cannot eat them as in I am going to eat Aberdeen Steak House or going to eat Frankie and Bennys just doesn't make sense.
Isn’t it “eat a MaccyD” or “eat a KFC”
It’s a recognition that they are a synthetic, homogenised product that masquerades as food (in the way Jacob’s Creek pretends to be wine). At least with Aberdeen Steak House or Garfunkel’s you’re getting real food
Well, I have long had a soft spot for a McDonald's. The coffee is better than the coffee chains and less than half the price. I am particularly fond of a sausage egg McMuffin for a breakfast treat occasionally.
Last time I had KFC it was horribly greasy, so put me right off, and in any case I am not so keen in ch8cken in any form.
Cunning Foxy claims to have no interest in chicken. Hmmmm...
There are worse ingredients than McDs on the market. I doubt KFC chicken passes my personal animal welfare standards.
Good start, although it doesn't seem to be doing enough. More can be done to resolve this problem.
I take the points about trade deficit but if the Government isn't going to start getting a lot more houses built we're going to have an endless short supply.
It's a real scandal that young people cannot afford to buy a house.
Of course the reasons for needing to buy a house in a certain place are important, trying to get people away from London is a good starting point. Perhaps corona might help with that.
I am not sure that you are taking the trade deficit point. Every year for more than 20 years now we consume more than we produce. We don’t save or invest enough and our governments add to the problem by borrowing. This creates a trade deficit. That has to be matched by a capital surplus of the same amount, that is we need to sell enough assets to pay for the consumption.
If we don’t sell them houses what are we going to sell them? Factories? Utilities? Other assets on which we will pay “rent” such as nuclear power plants? This is not a free choice. We either live differently and save more or we sell assets. Speculative flats in London seem to me a relatively harmless way of paying for this self indulgence.
I thought it was clear by my comment, I didn't mean foreign people that live in this country, I meant people who live abroad, buy property in this country that they never live in. Often it's used for money laundering.
I thought based on my post history that would be relatively clear that I didn't mean foreigners can't buy housing in general but if was unclear I apologise.
I'm off to bed now
So, I think it’s one in twenty UK households own a property abroad ( I’m sure someone can dig up the actual stats); they don’t live there so that’s them stuffed.
It’s this kind of thinking (eg ban foreigners owning property) that has the Tories on 40/45% still when the Govt is frankly gaffetastic. Why? Because millions are scared shitless by this kind of barking lefty economic lunacy mixed in with a good dose of “we hate the West and all it stands for”.
Sir Keir strikes me as a decent chap. I wouldn’t lie awake at night worrying about him, but he has the Augean stables to cleanse of crap that surrounds him still.
Goodwin makes a lot of very good points in that video I linked.
To be honest though, I'm not sure Labour can ever win on culture, I think it's an unwinnable war from their perspective, with any MP they have I can't think of any MP that can out-culture the Tories.
They can likely win on economic issues and this is why I suspect, Blair has given the strong advice to avoid the culture war altogether.
Goodwin also makes the point on Brexit and how that was a disaster for Labour in terms of backing Remain but in truth I think Labour was doomed whatever position it took, with Corbyn still the leader. In 2017 he points out their fudge worked but in 2019 it clearly did not. I don't think Labour would have done any better if it had tacked to full on Leave and stuck with it, or full on Remain. I think the election was doomed from when Johnson became the leader.
The biggest issues for Labour were: Corbyn remaining the leader and all the problems that has caused and the election being allowed to be called. To be fair to Labour, I believe it was the SNP that eventually allowed it through.
I've said many times that I'm trying my best to educate myself on this topic as clearly in a historic sense I've failed badly to judge the public mood and in response to that what Labour should do. So it's important for me - and I think others of my naturally liberal persuasion - to really learn the difficult lessons.
Re culture. Not for now. I am old enough to remember the "Loony Left" of the GLC in the early eighties. A stick to beat Labour with. Come 1997 it was the Tories who lòoked out of step with the prevailing times. Now, in 2020 almost all of those Loony policies are mainstream and uncontroversial. After 18 years (97 to15) of metropolitan milquetoast liberalism the pendulum has not surprisingly swung back. It will do again.
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There are worse ingredients than McDs on the market. I doubt KFC chicken passes my personal animal welfare standards.
I thought based on my post history that would be relatively clear that I didn't mean foreigners can't buy housing in general but if was unclear I apologise.
I'm off to bed now
Just need to watch out for kimono wearing Remaniacs. .
Assumption the egg comes before the chicken
If we don’t sell them houses what are we going to sell them? Factories? Utilities? Other assets on which we will pay “rent” such as nuclear power plants? This is not a free choice. We either live differently and save more or we sell assets. Speculative flats in London seem to me a relatively harmless way of paying for this self indulgence.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/jul/21/hmrc-investigation-ladbrokes-gvc-shares-turkey
It’s this kind of thinking (eg ban foreigners owning property) that has the Tories on 40/45% still when the Govt is frankly gaffetastic. Why? Because millions are scared shitless by this kind of barking lefty economic lunacy mixed in with a good dose of “we hate the West and all it stands for”.
Sir Keir strikes me as a decent chap. I wouldn’t lie awake at night worrying about him, but he has the Augean stables to cleanse of crap that surrounds him still.
I am old enough to remember the "Loony Left" of the GLC in the early eighties. A stick to beat Labour with.
Come 1997 it was the Tories who lòoked out of step with the prevailing times.
Now, in 2020 almost all of those Loony policies are mainstream and uncontroversial.
After 18 years (97 to15) of metropolitan milquetoast liberalism the pendulum has not surprisingly swung back.
It will do again.