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Hornby Castle on Richmondshire (Con Defence) Result: Conservative 127 (46%), Independent 98 (36%), United Kingdom Independence Party 50 (18%) Conservative HOLD with a majority of 29 (10%)
That assumes that those who live in 'slums' are happy living there and un-motivated to get out or turn their area into something better.
Don't underestimate how many people genuinely have that as a mindset.
I came from what the chartering classes call a slum. I'm well aware of it. I'm also well aware that there were and are people who put plenty of effort into getting out or for those settled there doing what they could to improve their area. For both I can say it paid off to some extent.
The irony is that the aspiration nation is apparently natural Tory territory. They need to get on to it and get their asses into those so called slums.
That assumes that those who live in 'slums' are happy living there and un-motivated to get out or turn their area into something better.
Don't underestimate how many people genuinely have that as a mindset.
I came from what the chartering classes call a slum. I'm well aware of it. I'm also well aware that there were and are people who put plenty of effort into getting out or for those settled there doing what they could to improve their area. For both I can say it paid off to some extent.
The irony is that the aspiration nation is apparently natural Tory territory. They need to get on to it and get their asses into those so called slums.
I very much agree that both mindsets are real (and that there are many subsets of both, too). It's stupid and insulting to think otherwise. Everyone from whatever background should have the opportunity to go to a grammar school, for example.
The truth remains, though, that some people have no motivation, aspiration or ambition. Labour rely on those unfortunates to provide their core vote.
Evening all. I see the party which is apparently heading for defeat next year and in 2015 held 2 seats yesterday and won a 3rd. I am not a betting man but as Rod Crosby said, time to get behind the Tories.
Evening all. I see the party which is apparently heading for defeat next year and in 2015 held 2 seats yesterday and won a 3rd. I am not a betting man but as Rod Crosby said, time to get behind the Tories.
It seems that Rod Crosby and Dr Fisher (Oxon) are well ahead of the curve on the 2015 GE. EdM has all of Foot's weaknesses and none of his strengths.
My guess, since central bankers have screwed almost everything else up in recent times, is that the tapering of the US QE program will be mishandled and that we will have some serious dislocations early in 2014.
Tories had been not get too full of themselves about the economic recovery. We are better placed than we were but a serious bump in the far east or the EZ or the US could still knock us out of our stride. I just have a feeling that things are going adrift again, not here so much but internationally.
As the father of an only daughter, he was in despair at the failure of the Left to confront Islamism, in particular gender segregation at universities. Indeed he was spitting wild contempt: and it was specifically aimed at Labour ("why is it only Cameron and Gove who speak out against this" - were his exact words).
Just had drinks with reliably Lefty friend (arty Labour voter into his 40s).
As the father of an only daughter, he was in despair at the failure of the Left to confront Islamism, in particular gender segregation at universities. Indeed he was spitting wild contempt: and it was specifically aimed at Labour ("why is it only Cameron and Gove who speak out against this" - were his exact words).
Significance? Probably minor, but the craven and cowardly attitude towards militant Islamism, as displayed by the British Left, is slowly eroding their support in one small but vocal and influential constituency: i.e. haute bourgeois London liberals.
The silence from Labour on this has been deafening. And shameful.
Just had drinks with reliably Lefty friend (arty Labour voter into his 40s).
As the father of an only daughter, he was in despair at the failure of the Left to confront Islamism, in particular gender segregation at universities. Indeed he was spitting wild contempt: and it was specifically aimed at Labour ("why is it only Cameron and Gove who speak out against this" - were his exact words).
Significance? Probably minor, but the craven and cowardly attitude towards militant Islamism, as displayed by the British Left, is slowly eroding their support in one small but vocal and influential constituency: i.e. haute bourgeois London liberals.
I have been getting family and friends to sign the petition and all, whether of the left or right or no particular views, have been appalled at the very idea that this could even have been contemplated by sentient beings.
I hope the universities have really backed down but they - and others - need to be watched like hawks to make sure there's no backsliding. The Quakers, for instance, allow their meeting rooms to be used by Islamist speakers preaching violence and anti-semitism. Why? What's the point of posturing about pacifism if you allow your buildings to be used - in return for money - by those preaching violence?
As for Sean T's friend, why is he surprised? Labour's Mayoral candidate was quite willing to embrace the Islamist preacher, Qaradawi - a man who endorsed suicide bombings, wife beatings, killing of gays and FGM - and provide a public platform for him at our expense. And Labour MPs and would-be MPs (including our own Nick P) were willing to canvass for such a candidate. Labour's record is shameful when it comes to confronting crypto-religious fascists.
I'd like to thank Morris Dancer for his post for me several threads back. I particularly liked his elegant formulation - "There's a yawning chasm of difference between choice and force."
There is too much tolerance of intolerance in the name of tolerance
Feel free to quote me
The cynic's definition of a liberal - A man who won't even take his own side in an argument.
Orwell had the measure of cowardly and pusillanimous pygmies such as our university leaders.
My definition of a liberal is a 19th century one: that is, that as much as possible the state should not be involved, beyond education, basic provision of healthcare, enforcement of contracts and law & order.
To my mind, female genital mutilation is ABH or GBH, and any doctor practicing it should prosecuted. Parents are clearly accessories and should be prosecuted too.
There is too much tolerance of intolerance in the name of tolerance
Feel free to quote me
The cynic's definition of a liberal - A man who won't even take his own side in an argument.
Orwell had the measure of cowardly and pusillanimous pygmies such as our university leaders.
My definition of a liberal is a 19th century one: that is, that as much as possible the state should not be involved, beyond education, basic provision of healthcare, enforcement of contracts and law & order.
To my mind, female genital mutilation is ABH or GBH, and any doctor practicing it should prosecuted. Parents are clearly accessories and should be prosecuted too.
Girls from those communities at greatest risk of FGM should be inspected on a regular basis by the school nurse. If they have been mutilated, they should be made wards of court until they are adult and their parents prosecuted and the presumption should be that they are responsible. If they wish to bring forward evidence that their daughter was taken away and mutilated without their knowledge then let them bring forward such evidence. Otherwise they are found guilty - a strict liability offence.
Families doing this must realise that they will lose control of their daughters. Since they do it in order, apparently, to make them marriageable, we need to stop them having such control. It may even be necessary to take the children away from them. But we must take drastic action to stop such barbarity.
We owe it to the girls, some as young as 4, who suffer the most appalling pain - not just at the time but throughout their lives - as a result of what can only be properly described as barbarism.
A few notes on the "segregation" supposedly taken place on UK universities.
Firstly, they already practise segregation - ever heard of Men's and Women's lavatories.
Secondly, whatever you may think of them, Muslims pay taxes. Unless public institutions accommodate them and their beliefs, then they have lost the right to public money or money should be made available for Muslims to found their own institutions.
I must say I am enjoying "liberals" discomfort on this issue. They proclaim tolerance and an open door immigration policy, but then squeal when those immigrants fail to check their religion in at the border. Hilarious.
Particularly amusingly, they have only just realised this when the liberal bastion of education has been stormed, the rest of the country having had close contact with Muslims and Islam for years and having been derided as "racists" when they have complained.
For anyone complaining about FGM, please post a link to your posts on male-to-female sex changes, which, of course, involve the removal of the penis and testicles. Also, it most definitely takes place in this country. On the NHS.
Finally, what ever happened to the multi-culturalists and diversity lovers in this country? They seem to have gone very quiet.
Just had drinks with reliably Lefty friend (arty Labour voter into his 40s).
As the father of an only daughter, he was in despair at the failure of the Left to confront Islamism, in particular gender segregation at universities. Indeed he was spitting wild contempt: and it was specifically aimed at Labour ("why is it only Cameron and Gove who speak out against this" - were his exact words).
Significance? Probably minor, but the craven and cowardly attitude towards militant Islamism, as displayed by the British Left, is slowly eroding their support in one small but vocal and influential constituency: i.e. haute bourgeois London liberals.
The silence from Labour on this has been deafening. And shameful.
In the real world, of course, both Chuka Umama and Jack Straw spoke up loudly against it before Cameron and Gove did it today.
I did get one bit of amusement out of this nonsense. R5 had a crypto fascist apologist on seeking to use the language of rights to deny the rights of 50 per cent of the population. He explained at one of these events they had a mixed section and that one girl insisted on sitting on her boyfriend's lap. He said, in all seriousness, " I think they were taking the mick".
Being the BBC the response was not: "ya think???"
Good on her. These people should not be taken seriously at any point. Their ideas are simply ridiculous.
Just had drinks with reliably Lefty friend (arty Labour voter into his 40s).
As the father of an only daughter, he was in despair at the failure of the Left to confront Islamism, in particular gender segregation at universities. Indeed he was spitting wild contempt: and it was specifically aimed at Labour ("why is it only Cameron and Gove who speak out against this" - were his exact words).
Significance? Probably minor, but the craven and cowardly attitude towards militant Islamism, as displayed by the British Left, is slowly eroding their support in one small but vocal and influential constituency: i.e. haute bourgeois London liberals.
The silence from Labour on this has been deafening. And shameful.
In the real world, of course, both Chuka Umama and Jack Straw spoke up loudly against it before Cameron and Gove did it today.
Just had drinks with reliably Lefty friend (arty Labour voter into his 40s).
As the father of an only daughter, he was in despair at the failure of the Left to confront Islamism, in particular gender segregation at universities. Indeed he was spitting wild contempt: and it was specifically aimed at Labour ("why is it only Cameron and Gove who speak out against this" - were his exact words).
Significance? Probably minor, but the craven and cowardly attitude towards militant Islamism, as displayed by the British Left, is slowly eroding their support in one small but vocal and influential constituency: i.e. haute bourgeois London liberals.
The silence from Labour on this has been deafening. And shameful.
In the real world, of course, both Chuka Umama and Jack Straw spoke up loudly against it before Cameron and Gove did it today.
Glad to hear that SO. It did not get a single mention on the BBC. Only Cameron did.
There is too much tolerance of intolerance in the name of tolerance
Feel free to quote me
The cynic's definition of a liberal - A man who won't even take his own side in an argument.
Orwell had the measure of cowardly and pusillanimous pygmies such as our university leaders.
My definition of a liberal is a 19th century one: that is, that as much as possible the state should not be involved, beyond education, basic provision of healthcare, enforcement of contracts and law & order.
To my mind, female genital mutilation is ABH or GBH, and any doctor practicing it should prosecuted. Parents are clearly accessories and should be prosecuted too.</
FGM, forced marriage, grooming of under-age girls; these are things that need to be prosecuted vigourously, because they involve the infliction of harm on people who either don't consent, or are too young to give effective consent.
Seating arrangements in Islamic student societies are a trivial issue, on the other hand.
A few notes on the "segregation" supposedly taken place on UK universities.
Firstly, they already practise segregation - ever heard of Men's and Women's lavatories.
UK law does allow discrimination and segregation if there's a justifiable reason - the best example I can think of is women's refuges, which would totally not work if they were forced to accept men as residents. I suppose one could argue whether segregating women's and men's toilets is justifiable, but what on earth could possibly be the justification for wanting women and men to sit separately at a lecture or conference?
For anyone complaining about FGM, please post a link to your posts on male-to-female sex changes, which, of course, involve the removal of the penis and testicles. Also, it most definitely takes place in this country. On the NHS.
Huh? Sex changes - carried out on consenting adults after much counselling and a long period (something like two years?) of living as the 'new' gender.
A few notes on the "segregation" supposedly taken place on UK universities.
Firstly, they already practise segregation - ever heard of Men's and Women's lavatories.
Secondly, whatever you may think of them, Muslims pay taxes. Unless public institutions accommodate them and their beliefs, then they have lost the right to public money or money should be made available for Muslims to found their own institutions.
I must say I am enjoying "liberals" discomfort on this issue. They proclaim tolerance and an open door immigration policy, but then squeal when those immigrants fail to check their religion in at the border. Hilarious.
Particularly amusingly, they have only just realised this when the liberal bastion of education has been stormed, the rest of the country having had close contact with Muslims and Islam for years and having been derided as "racists" when they have complained.
For anyone complaining about FGM, please post a link to your posts on male-to-female sex changes, which, of course, involve the removal of the penis and testicles. Also, it most definitely takes place in this country. On the NHS.
Finally, what ever happened to the multi-culturalists and diversity lovers in this country? They seem to have gone very quiet.
The arguments pretty weak if you're forced to used 'lavatories' to make a point.
Muslims may well pay takes, but they should do so under the firm belief that they're required to obey the laws and customs within this country. I wouldn't expect otherwise if I lived in Jeddah or Islamabad. If it's an issue, then perhaps one should consider residing elsewhere.
Those undergoing sex changes do so voluntarily - it's their choice. Do the young girls being forcibly mutilated have any option? Somehow I doubt it. It's an abhorrent act, and those inflicting such injuries on children should be prosecuted accordingly
Just had drinks with reliably Lefty friend (arty Labour voter into his 40s).
As the father of an only daughter, he was in despair at the failure of the Left to confront Islamism, in particular gender segregation at universities. Indeed he was spitting wild contempt: and it was specifically aimed at Labour ("why is it only Cameron and Gove who speak out against this" - were his exact words).
Significance? Probably minor, but the craven and cowardly attitude towards militant Islamism, as displayed by the British Left, is slowly eroding their support in one small but vocal and influential constituency: i.e. haute bourgeois London liberals.
The silence from Labour on this has been deafening. And shameful.
In the real world, of course, both Chuka Umama and Jack Straw spoke up loudly against it before Cameron and Gove did it today.
Glad to hear that SO. It did not get a single mention on the BBC. Only Cameron did.
It was reported by the BBC at the time. Chuka is mentioned in the online BBC report about Cameron and Gove. I haven't seen the TV news, so maybe they didn't mention it on that. It's a bigger deal when the government gets involved though.
Just had drinks with reliably Lefty friend (arty Labour voter into his 40s).
As the father of an only daughter, he was in despair at the failure of the Left to confront Islamism, in particular gender segregation at universities. Indeed he was spitting wild contempt: and it was specifically aimed at Labour ("why is it only Cameron and Gove who speak out against this" - were his exact words).
Significance? Probably minor, but the craven and cowardly attitude towards militant Islamism, as displayed by the British Left, is slowly eroding their support in one small but vocal and influential constituency: i.e. haute bourgeois London liberals.
The silence from Labour on this has been deafening. And shameful.
In the real world, of course, both Chuka Umama and Jack Straw spoke up loudly against it before Cameron and Gove did it today.
A few notes on the "segregation" supposedly taken place on UK universities.
Firstly, they already practise segregation - ever heard of Men's and Women's lavatories.
Secondly, whatever you may think of them, Muslims pay taxes. Unless public institutions accommodate them and their beliefs, then they have lost the right to public money or money should be made available for Muslims to found their own institutions.
I must say I am enjoying "liberals" discomfort on this issue. They proclaim tolerance and an open door immigration policy, but then squeal when those immigrants fail to check their religion in at the border. Hilarious.
Particularly amusingly, they have only just realised this when the liberal bastion of education has been stormed, the rest of the country having had close contact with Muslims and Islam for years and having been derided as "racists" when they have complained.
For anyone complaining about FGM, please post a link to your posts on male-to-female sex changes, which, of course, involve the removal of the penis and testicles. Also, it most definitely takes place in this country. On the NHS.
Finally, what ever happened to the multi-culturalists and diversity lovers in this country? They seem to have gone very quiet.
The arguments pretty weak if you're forced to used 'lavatories' to make a point.
Muslims may well pay takes, but they should do so under the firm belief that they're required to obey the laws and customs within this country. I wouldn't expect otherwise if I lived in Jeddah or Islamabad. If it's an issue, then perhaps one should consider living elsewhere.
Those undergoing sex changes do so voluntarily - it's their choice. Do the young girls being forcibly mutilated have any option? Somehow I doubt it. It's an abhorrent act, and those inflicting such injuries on children should be prosecuted accordingly
We also have single-sex clubs, societies, gyms, schools etc. To be honest, I think there are bigger fish to fry than seating arrangements in Muslim Student Societies.
A few notes on the "segregation" supposedly taken place on UK universities.
Firstly, they already practise segregation - ever heard of Men's and Women's lavatories.
Secondly, whatever you may think of them, Muslims pay taxes. Unless public institutions accommodate them and their beliefs, then they have lost the right to public money or money should be made available for Muslims to found their own institutions.
I must say I am enjoying "liberals" discomfort on this issue. They proclaim tolerance and an open door immigration policy, but then squeal when those immigrants fail to check their religion in at the border. Hilarious.
Particularly amusingly, they have only just realised this when the liberal bastion of education has been stormed, the rest of the country having had close contact with Muslims and Islam for years and having been derided as "racists" when they have complained.
For anyone complaining about FGM, please post a link to your posts on male-to-female sex changes, which, of course, involve the removal of the penis and testicles. Also, it most definitely takes place in this country. On the NHS.
Finally, what ever happened to the multi-culturalists and diversity lovers in this country? They seem to have gone very quiet.
The arguments pretty weak if you're forced to used 'lavatories' to make a point.
Muslims may well pay takes, but they should do so under the firm belief that they're required to obey the laws and customs within this country. I wouldn't expect otherwise if I lived in Jeddah or Islamabad. If it's an issue, then perhaps one should consider living elsewhere.
Those undergoing sex changes do so voluntarily - it's their choice. Do the young girls being forcibly mutilated have any option? Somehow I doubt it. It's an abhorrent act, and those inflicting such injuries on children should be prosecuted accordingly
We also have single-sex clubs, societies, gyms, schools etc. To be honest, I think there are bigger fish to fry than seating arrangements in Muslim Student Societies.
If people wish to sit separately on a voluntary basis that's their business; if they're forced to do so, then I'm afraid that's wrong.
FGM is a very big fish, that needs frying, and stopping now.
A few notes on the "segregation" supposedly taken place on UK universities.
Firstly, they already practise segregation - ever heard of Men's and Women's lavatories.
Secondly, whatever you may think of them, Muslims pay taxes. Unless public institutions accommodate them and their beliefs, then they have lost the right to public money or money should be made available for Muslims to found their own institutions.
I must say I am enjoying "liberals" discomfort on this issue. They proclaim tolerance and an open door immigration policy, but then squeal when those immigrants fail to check their religion in at the border. Hilarious.
Particularly amusingly, they have only just realised this when the liberal bastion of education has been stormed, the rest of the country having had close contact with Muslims and Islam for years and having been derided as "racists" when they have complained.
For anyone complaining about FGM, please post a link to your posts on male-to-female sex changes, which, of course, involve the removal of the penis and testicles. Also, it most definitely takes place in this country. On the NHS.
Finally, what ever happened to the multi-culturalists and diversity lovers in this country? They seem to have gone very quiet.
The arguments pretty weak if you're forced to used 'lavatories' to make a point.
Muslims may well pay takes, but they should do so under the firm belief that they're required to obey the laws and customs within this country. I wouldn't expect otherwise if I lived in Jeddah or Islamabad. If it's an issue, then perhaps one should consider living elsewhere.
Those undergoing sex changes do so voluntarily - it's their choice. Do the young girls being forcibly mutilated have any option? Somehow I doubt it. It's an abhorrent act, and those inflicting such injuries on children should be prosecuted accordingly
So, I see you've got no answer to my lavatories point.
There is nothing illegal about sex segregation. Perhaps you should ask David Cameron where he went to school?
As for your ridiculous citing of "customs", these change over time and would certainly change due to ......immigration! Perhaps this should have been considered before mass non-European immigration was allowed?
The "chuck 'em out" argument is hardly the way to treat British citizens when they exercise their democratic rights, just because you disagree with them. How illiberal.
You seem strongly against violence acts being committed children. Please point me to your anti-abortion posts in the past.
You can bet that British Muslims can smell the cant and hypocrisy emanating from the British political class just as well as I can.
A few notes on the "segregation" supposedly taken place on UK universities.
Firstly, they already practise segregation - ever heard of Men's and Women's lavatories.
Secondly, whatever you may think of them, Muslims pay taxes. Unless public institutions accommodate them and their beliefs, then they have lost the right to public money or money should be made available for Muslims to found their own institutions.
I must say I am enjoying "liberals" discomfort on this issue. They proclaim tolerance and an open door immigration policy, but then squeal when those immigrants fail to check their religion in at the border. Hilarious.
Particularly amusingly, they have only just realised this when the liberal bastion of education has been stormed, the rest of the country having had close contact with Muslims and Islam for years and having been derided as "racists" when they have complained.
For anyone complaining about FGM, please post a link to your posts on male-to-female sex changes, which, of course, involve the removal of the penis and testicles. Also, it most definitely takes place in this country. On the NHS.
Finally, what ever happened to the multi-culturalists and diversity lovers in this country? They seem to have gone very quiet.
The arguments pretty weak if you're forced to used 'lavatories' to make a point.
Muslims may well pay takes, but they should do so under the firm belief that they're required to obey the laws and customs within this country. I wouldn't expect otherwise if I lived in Jeddah or Islamabad. If it's an issue, then perhaps one should consider living elsewhere.
Those undergoing sex changes do so voluntarily - it's their choice. Do the young girls being forcibly mutilated have any option? Somehow I doubt it. It's an abhorrent act, and those inflicting such injuries on children should be prosecuted accordingly
We also have single-sex clubs, societies, gyms, schools etc. To be honest, I think there are bigger fish to fry than seating arrangements in Muslim Student Societies.
If people wish to sit separately on a voluntary basis that's their business; if they're forced to do so, then I'm afraid that's wrong.
FGM is a very big fish, that needs frying, and stopping now.
FGM and forcible marriage are different matters. They need to be punished with utmost force.
C5 had a fab ABBA fest this evening. Amazing how quickly that cleared a room in my house tonight, only other thing that has the same effect is Pride and Prejudice (Colin Firth addition).
'As for your ridiculous citing of "customs", these change over time and would certainly change due to ......immigration!'
Nope,the minority adapt to the majority.
Forced assimilation? No thanks!
Also, it doesn't actually seem to be happening. Why should it? Britain has opened its borders to the World, communications are cheap, TV (and internet) can be brought easily from throughout the World. Also, Muslims actually have children, hence their population growth.
Point of information: White British are a minority in London.
'As for your ridiculous citing of "customs", these change over time and would certainly change due to ......immigration!'
Nope,the minority adapt to the majority.
Forced assimilation? No thanks!
Also, it doesn't actually seem to be happening. Why should it? Britain has opened its borders to the World, communications are cheap, TV (and internet) can be brought easily from throughout the World. Also, Muslims actually have children, hence their population growth.
Point of information: White British are a minority in London.
Nothing can justify the forced mutilation of children.
'As for your ridiculous citing of "customs", these change over time and would certainly change due to ......immigration!'
Nope,the minority adapt to the majority.
Forced assimilation? No thanks!
Also, it doesn't actually seem to be happening. Why should it? Britain has opened its borders to the World, communications are cheap, TV (and internet) can be brought easily from throughout the World. Also, Muslims actually have children, hence their population growth.
Point of information: White British are a minority in London.
Nothing can justify the forced mutilation of children.
And where in that post do I justify FGM?
And it is hardly taking place in British Universities, is it?
And again, it is to be noted the failure to mention abortion rates in this country. The poor child is certainly forced to endure that.
Perhaps sexual separation has its uses, after all.
The only way to stop FGM is for girls at risk to be examined on a regular basis by doctors. The problem is that when this idea was put to politicians on Newsnight recently they all said it was a bad idea. But trying to stop this without examining those at risk is a bit like trying to catch a rapist without doing an examination for DNA on rape victims.
The only way to stop FGM is for girls at risk to be examined on a regular basis by doctors. The problem is that when this idea was put to politicians on Newsnight recently they all said it was a bad idea. But trying to stop this without examining those at risk is a bit like trying to catch a rapist without doing an examination for DNA on rape victims.
Presumably "girls at risk" means "girls not from my ethnic or religious group" in this case?
Some government employees know perfectly well which females have been circumcised. The NHS finds out when they go to hospital to give birth. No questioning or prosecutions have resulted.
The truth is as long as abortion is legal in this country and takes place in NHS hospitals, the government hasn't a moral leg to stand on.
The only way to stop FGM is for girls at risk to be examined on a regular basis by doctors. The problem is that when this idea was put to politicians on Newsnight recently they all said it was a bad idea. But trying to stop this without examining those at risk is a bit like trying to catch a rapist without doing an examination for DNA on rape victims.
Presumably "girls at risk" means "girls not from my ethnic or religious group" in this case?
Some government employees know perfectly well which females have been circumcised. The NHS finds out when they go to hospital to give birth. No questioning or prosecutions have resulted.
The truth is as long as abortion is legal in this country and takes place in NHS hospitals, the government hasn't a moral leg to stand on.
You're patently an idiot, the key to this stuff is the state monitoring child absence from schools
Really? I suppose the long summer school holiday is news to you. So, apparently, is taking a school register every morning and afternoon.
Anyway, I feel that now I've been unnecessarily insulted by you, I have now lost my PB virginity.
For Labour to win a majority in 2015 they need to win 93.4% of the seats they would have won in 2005 under the current boundaries. The notional result for 2005 was Labour on 349 seats and a majority of 48, so the calculation is 326/349.
The key to things like FGM is not covering it up. Like the grooming gangs and the gang-ruled inner city hell estates only once it's all out in the open and senior plod are certain that their careers won't be ended by the PC establishment will they tackle it.
Two threads ago there was a mini-quiz about what connected three people who bla-bla-bla, or whatever it was.
As a variation, here is an arithmetic quiz. Connect the numbers using standard arithmetical operations, to make each line equal 6. You're not allowed to write in any extra numbers, so (for example) you can't do a little 2 to make "squared", and you can't do a little 3 to make a cube-root sign. :
Two threads ago there was a mini-quiz about what connected three people who bla-bla-bla, or whatever it was.
As a variation, here is an arithmetic quiz. Connect the numbers using standard arithmetical operations, to make each line equal 6. You're not allowed to write in any extra numbers, so (for example) you can't do a little 2 to make "squared", and you can't do a little 3 to make a cube-root sign. :
C5 had a fab ABBA fest this evening. Amazing how quickly that cleared a room in my house tonight, only other thing that has the same effect is Pride and Prejudice (Colin Firth addition).
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Edit: Iver Village and Richings Park, eh? *chortle*
I think you are muddling the Liberals with the BBC.
I have voted...
I think the comparison is from May 2011
Three seats C 868, LD 772, C 767, 697, LD 462, 419
Lib Dems 584 (51.27%)
UKIP 324 (28.44%) ANN DAY
Labour 120 (10.53%)
Cons 70 (6.7%)
Green 30 (2.6%)
22.7% Turnout
Parent: 'Isn't he there? Hang on, I'll just check his room.'
*long silence*
Parent: 'Hello? Yes. He's still here. He's asleep.'
'Any chance you could wake him up and send him into school?'
Parent: 'Well he must be tired. He was still up playing that war game when we went to bed. And that was gone one.'
The irony is that the aspiration nation is apparently natural Tory territory. They need to get on to it and get their asses into those so called slums.
Cyril Smith was indeed a Liberal.
I was 30!
The truth remains, though, that some people have no motivation, aspiration or ambition. Labour rely on those unfortunates to provide their core vote.
Obama the preacher comes clean; he loves his enemies.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/barackobama/10516110/Americas-friends-are-left-behind-in-Barack-Obamas-new-plans.html
There are increasing straws in the wind that things are going to get very bumpy early in the new year. There was a very good article by Jeremy Warner a few days ago and now this: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financialcrisis/10516124/Bank-of-America-advises-China-default-contracts-to-hedge-debt-storm.html
My guess, since central bankers have screwed almost everything else up in recent times, is that the tapering of the US QE program will be mishandled and that we will have some serious dislocations early in 2014.
Tories had been not get too full of themselves about the economic recovery. We are better placed than we were but a serious bump in the far east or the EZ or the US could still knock us out of our stride. I just have a feeling that things are going adrift again, not here so much but internationally.
There is too much tolerance of intolerance in the name of tolerance
Feel free to quote me
I hope the universities have really backed down but they - and others - need to be watched like hawks to make sure there's no backsliding. The Quakers, for instance, allow their meeting rooms to be used by Islamist speakers preaching violence and anti-semitism. Why? What's the point of posturing about pacifism if you allow your buildings to be used - in return for money - by those preaching violence?
As for Sean T's friend, why is he surprised? Labour's Mayoral candidate was quite willing to embrace the Islamist preacher, Qaradawi - a man who endorsed suicide bombings, wife beatings, killing of gays and FGM - and provide a public platform for him at our expense. And Labour MPs and would-be MPs (including our own Nick P) were willing to canvass for such a candidate. Labour's record is shameful when it comes to confronting crypto-religious fascists.
I'd like to thank Morris Dancer for his post for me several threads back. I particularly liked his elegant formulation - "There's a yawning chasm of difference between choice and force."
Orwell had the measure of cowardly and pusillanimous pygmies such as our university leaders.
To my mind, female genital mutilation is ABH or GBH, and any doctor practicing it should prosecuted. Parents are clearly accessories and should be prosecuted too.
Families doing this must realise that they will lose control of their daughters. Since they do it in order, apparently, to make them marriageable, we need to stop them having such control. It may even be necessary to take the children away from them. But we must take drastic action to stop such barbarity.
We owe it to the girls, some as young as 4, who suffer the most appalling pain - not just at the time but throughout their lives - as a result of what can only be properly described as barbarism.
Seems a bit pointless worrying about local by-elections or Jack and Harriet, given this:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2523177/Could-universe-collapse-TODAY-Physicists-claim-risk-likely-started.html
Firstly, they already practise segregation - ever heard of Men's and Women's lavatories.
Secondly, whatever you may think of them, Muslims pay taxes. Unless public institutions accommodate them and their beliefs, then they have lost the right to public money or money should be made available for Muslims to found their own institutions.
I must say I am enjoying "liberals" discomfort on this issue. They proclaim tolerance and an open door immigration policy, but then squeal when those immigrants fail to check their religion in at the border. Hilarious.
Particularly amusingly, they have only just realised this when the liberal bastion of education has been stormed, the rest of the country having had close contact with Muslims and Islam for years and having been derided as "racists" when they have complained.
For anyone complaining about FGM, please post a link to your posts on male-to-female sex changes, which, of course, involve the removal of the penis and testicles. Also, it most definitely takes place in this country. On the NHS.
Finally, what ever happened to the multi-culturalists and diversity lovers in this country? They seem to have gone very quiet.
Being the BBC the response was not: "ya think???"
Good on her. These people should not be taken seriously at any point. Their ideas are simply ridiculous.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/447673/Labour-MP-Simon-Danczuk-Sex-trafficking-crimes-ARE-a-racial-issue
And this from a former Labour MP
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/05/15/former-labour-mp-ann-cryer-clames-cultural-practices-from-pakistan_n_3277536.html
Maybe it's just the southern ones that are luvvies ?
FGM - done on children, often pre-school.
Muslims may well pay takes, but they should do so under the firm belief that they're required to obey the laws and customs within this country. I wouldn't expect otherwise if I lived in Jeddah or Islamabad. If it's an issue, then perhaps one should consider residing elsewhere.
Those undergoing sex changes do so voluntarily - it's their choice. Do the young girls being forcibly mutilated have any option? Somehow I doubt it. It's an abhorrent act, and those inflicting such injuries on children should be prosecuted accordingly
FGM is a very big fish, that needs frying, and stopping now.
There is nothing illegal about sex segregation. Perhaps you should ask David Cameron where he went to school?
As for your ridiculous citing of "customs", these change over time and would certainly change due to ......immigration! Perhaps this should have been considered before mass non-European immigration was allowed?
The "chuck 'em out" argument is hardly the way to treat British citizens when they exercise their democratic rights, just because you disagree with them. How illiberal.
You seem strongly against violence acts being committed children. Please point me to your anti-abortion posts in the past.
You can bet that British Muslims can smell the cant and hypocrisy emanating from the British political class just as well as I can.
'As for your ridiculous citing of "customs", these change over time and would certainly change due to ......immigration!'
Nope,the minority adapt to the majority.
WRT Muslims, there are genuine legitimate criticisms to make. What isn't fair is to blame them for not embracing the sexual revolution.
Also, it doesn't actually seem to be happening. Why should it? Britain has opened its borders to the World, communications are cheap, TV (and internet) can be brought easily from throughout the World. Also, Muslims actually have children, hence their population growth.
Point of information: White British are a minority in London.
And it is hardly taking place in British Universities, is it?
And again, it is to be noted the failure to mention abortion rates in this country. The poor child is certainly forced to endure that.
Perhaps sexual separation has its uses, after all.
Some government employees know perfectly well which females have been circumcised. The NHS finds out when they go to hospital to give birth. No questioning or prosecutions have resulted.
The truth is as long as abortion is legal in this country and takes place in NHS hospitals, the government hasn't a moral leg to stand on.
'The only way to stop FGM is for girls at risk to be examined on a regular basis by doctors.'
For a start they could make it mandatory for medical professionals to report cases they come across.
Anyway, I feel that now I've been unnecessarily insulted by you, I have now lost my PB virginity.
For Labour to win a majority in 2015 they need to win 93.4% of the seats they would have won in 2005 under the current boundaries. The notional result for 2005 was Labour on 349 seats and a majority of 48, so the calculation is 326/349.
Two threads ago there was a mini-quiz about what connected three people who bla-bla-bla, or whatever it was.
As a variation, here is an arithmetic quiz. Connect the numbers using standard arithmetical operations, to make each line equal 6. You're not allowed to write in any extra numbers, so (for example) you can't do a little 2 to make "squared", and you can't do a little 3 to make a cube-root sign. :
0 0 0 = 6
1 1 1 = 6
2 2 2 = 6
3 3 3 = 6
4 4 4 = 6
5 5 5 = 6
6 6 6 = 6
7 7 7 = 6
8 8 8 = 6
9 9 9 = 6
Some obvious ones
(2^2)+2 =6
(3*3)-3 = 6
(5/5)+5 = 6
(6*6)/6 = 6 or (6-6+6)
-(7/7)+7 = 6