I think it is quite cavalier to rule Boris Johnson out before he even takes office.
I don’t like the man, I wish we were not in this situation, but he has factors on his side that could assist him.
He connects with voters in a way a lot of Tories don’t. He has Jeremy Corbyn as an opponent. He could claw back Brexit party votes.
I’m not saying any of this will be easy or even likely, but there is a chance we have an election this year and Boris wins it. I think that has to be a possibility.
Let us see him bed in, complete his first month or so in office and let’s see where we are.
Sorry, hate to remind you but many women, other than his wives have seen him in bed, and he has no idea how many children he has fathered.
Johnson certainly "connects with voters in a way a lot of Tories don’t". He turns a greater proportion of non-Tories away than any PM since Thatcher - who had the country's economic turnaround to show for the people she upset.
All Johnson can show is a series of aborted projects and a long line of betrayed associates.
Except Thatcher also motivated Tories like no other and appealed to working class strives and one 3 elections, Boris appeals to a similar demographic
In two of those elections she had a split opposition. She also had a serious foreign policy crisis in the Falklands war that assisted her. A couple of years into the 1979 - 1983 Government she appeared vulnerable politically and had political luck not aligned to help her as it did the Tories might have ditched her in 1983 or 1984. Leadership elections were the preserve of MPs and if they thought they would lose their seats she would have been out. The Tories are not afraid of ousting leaders before Thatcher, look at Heath in 1975....
Remsiners are now split between Swinson LDs and Corbyn Labour while Boris will win back many Brexit Party voters
He campaigned for Leave but what has he ever been instrumental in changing something other than keeping that woman in an Iranian jail for a longer period than was initially the case!
So........I guess the political state of the country is fairly important, but sometimes, life gets in the way. Early May of this year, my wife, out of the blue, routine mammogram, gets diagnosed with breast cancer. Prognosis quite good, caught it early blah,blah,blah. Early June, mastectomy, nipple removal, immediate implant, consultant confident everything fine and dandy, probably job done. Black humour of friends at work keeping me going saying result, look on the bright side, wife gets a boob job, mortgage paid off, happy days. Yesterday, result of lymph node samples. Not so good -Lymph nodes showing signs of cancer, consultant not so chipper. CT scan tomorrow, consultant wants to bring "other oncologists on board." More surgery sheduled for early August. Now talk of extended chemo/radio therapy. I'm sitting here, in my back garden, beer in hand, wife out for a meal with friends, she's trying to keep life normal. Kids all finished Uni, off to various continents to explore the world, all thinking Mum has had a close brush with cancer, but on the up. I dunno what the fuck to do next.
My wife had breast cancer a few years ago. It is a very worrying time and you will need all the family and friends support you can get. It is good she is going out with friends tonight and she should continue to do so. You should also seek support as it can be quite an emotional time for a spouse.
From our Internet research into the latest scientific papers on Breast Cancers, there are lots of different types, so you can not get a good read across from one person's treatment to another's.
I would advise to get the cancer DNA tested. This is likely to help with diagnosis and getting the right treatment. Some breast cancers are slow and easily treated, others are faster and more malign.
So........I guess the political state of the country is fairly important, but sometimes, life gets in the way. Early May of this year, my wife, out of the blue, routine mammogram, gets diagnosed with breast cancer. Prognosis quite good, caught it early blah,blah,blah. Early June, mastectomy, nipple removal, immediate implant, consultant confident everything fine and dandy, probably job done. Black humour of friends at work keeping me going saying result, look on the bright side, wife gets a boob job, mortgage paid off, happy days. Yesterday, result of lymph node samples. Not so good -Lymph nodes showing signs of cancer, consultant not so chipper. CT scan tomorrow, consultant wants to bring "other oncologists on board." More surgery sheduled for early August. Now talk of extended chemo/radio therapy. I'm sitting here, in my back garden, beer in hand, wife out for a meal with friends, she's trying to keep life normal. Kids all finished Uni, off to various continents to explore the world, all thinking Mum has had a close brush with cancer, but on the up. I dunno what the fuck to do next.
Very sorry to hear that, best wishes to you and your family and hope your wife makes a full recovery.
Cheers, all. I guess I'm just wallowing in self pity, but it's a place that feels comfortable at this exact moment in time. I'm minded to keep schtumm as far as the lads are concerned. They are all off this week to explore the world and start work. I reckon I'll let them enjoy themselves. They know Mum "has cancer" She'll be undergoing treatment while they are off living their lives. Not a lot will change in 4 or 6 weeks. Reality can wait a little longer.
Is this the same Canada that will not rollover the deal that the UK and Canada have through EU membership? I thought Brexiteers said it would be easy to transfer current trading relations with friendly countries on a like for like basis. Another, naive and crass act of stupidity that Brexiteers have inflicted on unsuspecting people....
I think it is quite cavalier to rule Boris Johnson out before he even takes office.
I don’t like the man, I wish we were not in this situation, but he has factors on his side that could assist him.
He connects with voters in a way a lot of Tories don’t. He has Jeremy Corbyn as an opponent. He could claw back Brexit party votes.
I’m not saying any of this will be easy or even likely, but there is a chance we have an election this year and Boris wins it. I think that has to be a possibility.
Let us see him bed in, complete his first month or so in office and let’s see where we are.
Sorry, hate to remind you but many women, other than his wives have seen him in bed, and he has no idea how many children he has fathered.
Johnson certainly "connects with voters in a way a lot of Tories don’t". He turns a greater proportion of non-Tories away than any PM since Thatcher - who had the country's economic turnaround to show for the people she upset.
All Johnson can show is a series of aborted projects and a long line of betrayed associates.
Except Thatcher also motivated Tories like no other and appealed to working class strives and one 3 elections, Boris appeals to a similar demographic
In two of those elections she had a split opposition. She also had a serious foreign policy crisis in the Falklands war that assisted her. A couple of years into the 1979 - 1983 Government she appeared vulnerable politically and had political luck not aligned to help her as it did the Tories might have ditched her in 1983 or 1984. Leadership elections were the preserve of MPs and if they thought they would lose their seats she would have been out. The Tories are not afraid of ousting leaders before Thatcher, look at Heath in 1975....
Remsiners are now split between Swinson LDs and Corbyn Labour while Boris will win back many Brexit Party voters
I think it is quite cavalier to rule Boris Johnson out before he even takes office.
I don’t like the man, I wish we were not in this situation, but he has factors on his side that could assist him.
He connects with voters in a way a lot of Tories don’t. He has Jeremy Corbyn as an opponent. He could claw back Brexit party votes.
I’m not saying any of this will be easy or even likely, but there is a chance we have an election this year and Boris wins it. I think that has to be a possibility.
Let us see him bed in, complete his first month or so in office and let’s see where we are.
Sorry, hate to remind you but many women, other than his wives have seen him in bed, and he has no idea how many children he has fathered.
Johnson certainly "connects with voters in a way a lot of Tories don’t". He turns a greater proportion of non-Tories away than any PM since Thatcher - who had the country's economic turnaround to show for the people she upset.
All Johnson can show is a series of aborted projects and a long line of betrayed associates.
Except Thatcher also motivated Tories like no other and appealed to working class strives and one 3 elections, Boris appeals to a similar demographic
In two of those elections she had a split opposition. She also had a serious foreign policy crisis in the Falklands war that assisted her. A couple of years into the 1979 - 1983 Government she appeared vulnerable politically and had political luck not aligned to help her as it did the Tories might have ditched her in 1983 or 1984. Leadership elections were the preserve of MPs and if they thought they would lose their seats she would have been out. The Tories are not afraid of ousting leaders before Thatcher, look at Heath in 1975....
Remsiners are now split between Swinson LDs and Corbyn Labour while Boris will win back many Brexit Party voters
Dream on!
until the headbangers fail to get their unicorns and then start turning on another Tory leader.... but this one will be a delight to see.
I noticed in the last few weeks he said he is going to contest the next GE, presumably as an independent. I am sure the payment that defeated MPs get is nothing to do with it? On the same level would he vote no confidence in a BJ Government as it would probably mean an early GE and that means redundancy...
2) No chance too much risk he would lose and it would split the Torys again.
Why would losing split the Tories? We know which side the Tories would be on: The defeated Leave side. They'd be united behind their defeated Leaver leader.
Did losing IndyRef split the SNP?
Because not all Torys would be on the leave side. Osborne would pile in, etc blue on blue all over again and as you say if Boris lost then he would have to resign. So he will not do it.
Because not all Torys would be on the leave side. Osborne would pile in, etc blue on blue all over again and as you say if Boris lost then he would have to resign. So he will not do it.
There would be Tories in both sides on the referendum but Labour would have that too. Once it's over the result is clear, there's no disagreement over what to do next, and the leadership is on the same side as the membership, which is as united as they can hope to get.
The Sky news guys just introduced a "Who is Boris" puff piece whilst a protestor near the presenter played the Imperial March on a glockenspiel. Glorious.
It's probably the least threatening instrument for that tune as well!
So........I guess the political state of the country is fairly important, but sometimes, life gets in the way. Early May of this year, my wife, out of the blue, routine mammogram, gets diagnosed with breast cancer. Prognosis quite good, caught it early blah,blah,blah. Early June, mastectomy, nipple removal, immediate implant, consultant confident everything fine and dandy, probably job done. Black humour of friends at work keeping me going saying result, look on the bright side, wife gets a boob job, mortgage paid off, happy days. Yesterday, result of lymph node samples. Not so good -Lymph nodes showing signs of cancer, consultant not so chipper. CT scan tomorrow, consultant wants to bring "other oncologists on board." More surgery sheduled for early August. Now talk of extended chemo/radio therapy. I'm sitting here, in my back garden, beer in hand, wife out for a meal with friends, she's trying to keep life normal. Kids all finished Uni, off to various continents to explore the world, all thinking Mum has had a close brush with cancer, but on the up. I dunno what the fuck to do next.
Very sorry to hear that all best wishes for a full recovery.
The Sky news guys just introduced a "Who is Boris" puff piece whilst a protestor near the presenter played the Imperial March on a glockenspiel. Glorious.
It's probably the least threatening instrument for that tune as well!
You've got to hand to them it's placed perfectly so pretty much every news channel in the area has it on. BBC, C4, Sky, CNN (I've not tried any others but I assume the same). it's the least annoying protest there's been there (better than the stop brexit guy).
Because not all Torys would be on the leave side. Osborne would pile in, etc blue on blue all over again and as you say if Boris lost then he would have to resign. So he will not do it.
There would be Tories in both sides on the referendum but Labour would have that too. Once it's over the result is clear, there's no disagreement over what to do next, and the leadership is on the same side as the membership, which is as united as they can hope to get.
Nope the Labour MPs will keep their heads down, basically like last time. But simply not one front bench Labour MP or even a party heavy weight will come out for leave, so the press would have another field day at the Torys expense as heavyweights and front benchers go hammer and tongs at each other.
So........I guess the political state of the country is fairly important, but sometimes, life gets in the way. Early May of this year, my wife, out of the blue, routine mammogram, gets diagnosed with breast cancer. Prognosis quite good, caught it early blah,blah,blah. Early June, mastectomy, nipple removal, immediate implant, consultant confident everything fine and dandy, probably job done. Black humour of friends at work keeping me going saying result, look on the bright side, wife gets a boob job, mortgage paid off, happy days. Yesterday, result of lymph node samples. Not so good -Lymph nodes showing signs of cancer, consultant not so chipper. CT scan tomorrow, consultant wants to bring "other oncologists on board." More surgery sheduled for early August. Now talk of extended chemo/radio therapy. I'm sitting here, in my back garden, beer in hand, wife out for a meal with friends, she's trying to keep life normal. Kids all finished Uni, off to various continents to explore the world, all thinking Mum has had a close brush with cancer, but on the up. I dunno what the fuck to do next.
So sorry to hear that. You have my very best wishes for the finest outcome. You know, the ones I keep for special occasions, on top of the wardrobe.....
The Sky news guys just introduced a "Who is Boris" puff piece whilst a protestor near the presenter played the Imperial March on a glockenspiel. Glorious.
It's probably the least threatening instrument for that tune as well!
You've got to hand to them it's placed perfectly so pretty much every news channel in the area has it on. BBC, C4, Sky, CNN (I've not tried any others but I assume the same). it's the least annoying protest there's been there (better than the stop brexit guy).
I don't like the stop Brexit guy even though I think Brexit should be stopped. It is just unpleasant the way he shouts it out and actually it activates a base fear in me. My reaction would be to walk/run away from someone like that and I sometimes turn the TV sound down or change channel. When he used to strategically position himself with a placard that was fine but the shouting I cannot tolerate....
It requires a conviction of some kind does it not?
Yes. Although I think if the MP is suspended by the House for long enough that would also count. O'Mara is a good example of why extending the recall provisions would be a good idea.
Nope the Labour MPs will keep their heads down, basically like last time. But simply not one front bench Labour MP or even a party heavy weight will come out for leave, so the press would have another field day at the Torys expense as heavyweights and front benchers go hammer and tongs at each other.
As opposed to now, when the *current* chancellor is going at the incoming Prime Minister, and nobody's sure whether he's lose a Vote of Confidence because members of his own party vote against him...
It requires a conviction of some kind does it not?
Yes. Although I think if the MP is suspended by the House for long enough that would also count. O'Mara is a good example of why extending the recall provisions would be a good idea.
Maybe MPs should have to turn up for a given percentage of time coupled with frequency. Exemption could be made for Ministers etc. I think local Cllrs have to show commitment and if they fail to do so they are ousted and a by-election takes place. A similar system should take place for MPs unless they are ill, although O'Mara has IIRC had health issues. Difficult one...
Cheers, all. I guess I'm just wallowing in self pity, but it's a place that feels comfortable at this exact moment in time. I'm minded to keep schtumm as far as the lads are concerned. They are all off this week to explore the world and start work. I reckon I'll let them enjoy themselves. They know Mum "has cancer" She'll be undergoing treatment while they are off living their lives. Not a lot will change in 4 or 6 weeks. Reality can wait a little longer.
He campaigned for Leave but what has he ever been instrumental in changing something other than keeping that woman in an Iranian jail for a longer period than was initially the case!
His track record is spotty, and that's being generous. Politicians kissing arse is the norm, but still repulsive. I hope May is more honest tomorrow about Britain Trump.
Every year I make predictions for the year ahead and every year I review how I did.
So I don’t think you’re being very fair, to me at least.
Then don’t read this post if you are feeling so thin skinned. I think you argued this header confidently and with panache. But it is wrong. It will date horribly. People will keep it and throw it back at you.
Fact is as some bone pointed out politely below, If you were to ask people about Gordon brown prime minister today they would say what an absolute load of crap, probably wouldn’t have on the day he became prime minister, the same with thatcher, wasn’t supposed to be there for ten years at the start, Thatcherism and the iron maiden moniker all came later, truth is Thatcher was stronger five years after becoming PM than the day she touched hands with the queen.
Boris is different than that as i think he does look set to be there for at least ten years, now he’s the king of the brexit plurality. The electoral demographic that surprised remain in 2016, a situation created by Blair Brown Cameron is there to be exploited and will remain in power for the next ten years at least.
Blair, Brown, Cameron, Osborne spent a quarter of a century stoking a 40%+ plurality for Boris, Bannon, Crosby and The Sun to now exploit! Much like Thatcher in the 1980s, the 2020s belong to them. Since 2016 the centre and left have not learnt any lessons, Libdem bollocks to brexit best deal is current deal is laughable, what Cameron brought back addresses the concerns of the leave voters more than current deal, and without winning them over you lose and go on losing, and Labour dont have the discipline and hunger for power required to win those voters either.
The header is wrong because winning is not about majority’s but pluralities. Boris doesn’t need a majority anywhere, he merely needs to surf the plurality to two landslides against divided opposition the same way Thatcher did. And wrong because EU doesn’t cave to Boris, they cave to their own wish to grant a brexit deal to avoid no deal brexit
Nope the Labour MPs will keep their heads down, basically like last time. But simply not one front bench Labour MP or even a party heavy weight will come out for leave, so the press would have another field day at the Torys expense as heavyweights and front benchers go hammer and tongs at each other.
As opposed to now, when the *current* chancellor is going at the incoming Prime Minister, and nobody's sure whether he's lose a Vote of Confidence because members of his own party vote against him...
He will not be Chancellor tomorrow, so it will be backbench MP. The first objective Boris needs is a united, non rebellious cabinet, because the shambles May has allowed over the last 2 years has done her all the damage. No referendum, Boris can enforce to a degree cabinet responsibility, look at Rudd. Call a referendum all hell gets let loose again.
So in simple terms keep it in Cabinet he has a measure of control, call a referendum he has none.
Nope the Labour MPs will keep their heads down, basically like last time. But simply not one front bench Labour MP or even a party heavy weight will come out for leave, so the press would have another field day at the Torys expense as heavyweights and front benchers go hammer and tongs at each other.
As opposed to now, when the *current* chancellor is going at the incoming Prime Minister, and nobody's sure whether he's lose a Vote of Confidence because members of his own party vote against him...
He will not be Chancellor tomorrow, so it will be backbench MP. The first objective Boris needs is a united, non rebellious cabinet, because the shambles May has allowed over the last 2 years has done her all the damage. No referendum, Boris can enforce to a degree cabinet responsibility, look at Rudd. Call a referendum all hell gets let loose again.
So in simple terms keep it in Cabinet he has a measure of control, call a referendum he has none.
It is a Catch 22. He can't have a cabinet full of full on Brexiters because they won't be able to deliver full on Brexit. They might have half a chance at getting the deal through though and perhaps that is the plan.
Play all the ERGers for dolts. Which to be fair they all are.
Every year I make predictions for the year ahead and every year I review how I did.
So I don’t think you’re being very fair, to me at least.
Then don’t read this post if you are feeling so thin skinned. I think you argued this header confidently and with panache. But it is wrong. It will date horribly. People will keep it and throw it back at you.
Fact is as some bone pointed out politely below, If you were to ask people about Gordon brown prime minister today they would say what an absolute load of crap, probably wouldn’t have on the day he became prime minister, the same with thatcher, wasn’t supposed to be there for ten years at the start, Thatcherism and the iron maiden moniker all came later, truth is Thatcher was stronger five years after becoming PM than the day she touched hands with the queen.
Boris is different than that as i think he does look set to be there for at least ten years, now he’s the king of the brexit plurality. The electoral demographic that surprised remain in 2016, a situation created by Blair Brown Cameron is there to be exploited and will remain in power for the next ten years at least.
Blair, Brown, Cameron, Osborne spent a quarter of a century stoking a 40%+ plurality for Boris, Bannon, Crosby and The Sun to now exploit! Much like Thatcher in the 1980s, the 2020s belong to them. Since 2016 the centre and left have not learnt any lessons, Libdem bollocks to brexit best deal is current deal is laughable, what Cameron brought back addresses the concerns of the leave voters more than current deal, and without winning them over you lose and go on losing, and Labour dont have the discipline and hunger for power required to win those voters either.
The header is wrong because winning is not about majority’s but pluralities. Boris doesn’t need a majority anywhere, he merely needs to surf the plurality to two landslides against divided opposition the same way Thatcher did. And wrong because EU doesn’t cave to Boris, they cave to their own wish to grant a brexit deal to avoid no deal brexit
So........I guess the political state of the country is fairly important, but sometimes, life gets in the way. Early May of this year, my wife, out of the blue, routine mammogram, gets diagnosed with breast cancer. Prognosis quite good, caught it early blah,blah,blah. Early June, mastectomy, nipple removal, immediate implant, consultant confident everything fine and dandy, probably job done. Black humour of friends at work keeping me going saying result, look on the bright side, wife gets a boob job, mortgage paid off, happy days. Yesterday, result of lymph node samples. Not so good -Lymph nodes showing signs of cancer, consultant not so chipper. CT scan tomorrow, consultant wants to bring "other oncologists on board." More surgery sheduled for early August. Now talk of extended chemo/radio therapy. I'm sitting here, in my back garden, beer in hand, wife out for a meal with friends, she's trying to keep life normal. Kids all finished Uni, off to various continents to explore the world, all thinking Mum has had a close brush with cancer, but on the up. I dunno what the fuck to do next.
So sorry to hear that. You have my very best wishes for the finest outcome. You know, the ones I keep for special occasions, on top of the wardrobe.....
Ditto
My late wife had breast cancer and had a mastectomy, but she did NOT die from it. Amazing advances are being made.
The best advice I can give to TTFS is give his wife 100% support (which I know he will) but it bears restating. A cuddle thro the difficult times is invaluable/priceless
That doesn't sound like Farage himself is all that convinced by it!
Farage won't want to roll over that easy, not so long ago he was entertaining the prospect of being PM himself, and if Boris doesn't deliver by the 31st he will fancy his chances in the ensuing election.
Every year I make predictions for the year ahead and every year I review how I did.
So I don’t think you’re being very fair, to me at least.
Then don’t read this post if you are feeling so thin skinned. I think you argued this header confidently and with panache. But it is wrong. It will date horribly. People will keep it and throw it back at you.
Fact is as some bone pointed out politely below, If you were to ask people about Gordon brown prime minister today they would say what an absolute load of crap, probably wouldn’t have on the day he became prime minister, the same with thatcher, wasn’t supposed to be there for ten years at the start, Thatcherism and the iron maiden moniker all came later, truth is Thatcher was stronger five years after becoming PM than the day she touched hands with the queen.
Boris is different than that as i think he does look set to be there for at least ten years, now he’s the king of the brexit plurality. The electoral demographic that surprised remain in 2016, a situation created by Blair Brown Cameron is there to be exploited and will remain in power for the next ten years at least.
Blair, Brown, Cameron, Osborne spent a quarter of a century stoking a 40%+ plurality for Boris, Bannon, Crosby and The Sun to now exploit! Much like Thatcher in the 1980s, the 2020s belong to them. Since 2016 the centre and left have not learnt any lessons, Libdem bollocks to brexit best deal is current deal is laughable, what Cameron brought back addresses the concerns of the leave voters more than current deal, and without winning them over you lose and go on losing, and Labour dont have the discipline and hunger for power required to win those voters either.
The header is wrong because winning is not about majority’s but pluralities. Boris doesn’t need a majority anywhere, he merely needs to surf the plurality to two landslides against divided opposition the same way Thatcher did. And wrong because EU doesn’t cave to Boris, they cave to their own wish to grant a brexit deal to avoid no deal brexit
The Sky news guys just introduced a "Who is Boris" puff piece whilst a protestor near the presenter played the Imperial March on a glockenspiel. Glorious.
It's probably the least threatening instrument for that tune as well!
You've got to hand to them it's placed perfectly so pretty much every news channel in the area has it on. BBC, C4, Sky, CNN (I've not tried any others but I assume the same). it's the least annoying protest there's been there (better than the stop brexit guy).
I don't like the stop Brexit guy even though I think Brexit should be stopped. It is just unpleasant the way he shouts it out and actually it activates a base fear in me. My reaction would be to walk/run away from someone like that and I sometimes turn the TV sound down or change channel. When he used to strategically position himself with a placard that was fine but the shouting I cannot tolerate....
I think it is quite cavalier to rule Boris Johnson out before he even takes office.
I don’t like the man, I wish we were not in this situation, but he has factors on his side that could assist him.
He connects with voters in a way a lot of Tories don’t. He has Jeremy Corbyn as an opponent. He could claw back Brexit party votes.
I’m not saying any of this will be easy or even likely, but there is a chance we have an election this year and Boris wins it. I think that has to be a possibility.
Let us see him bed in, complete his first month or so in office and let’s see where we are.
Sorry, hate to remind you but many women, other than his wives have seen him in bed, and he has no idea how many children he has fathered.
Johnson certainly "connects with voters in a way a lot of Tories don’t". He turns a greater proportion of non-Tories away than any PM since Thatcher - who had the country's economic turnaround to show for the people she upset.
All Johnson can show is a series of aborted projects and a long line of betrayed associates.
Except Thatcher also motivated Tories like no other and appealed to working class strives and one 3 elections, Boris appeals to a similar demographic
In two of those elections she had a split opposition. She also had a serious foreign policy crisis in the Falklands war that assisted her. A couple of years into the 1979 - 1983 Government she appeared vulnerable politically and had political luck not aligned to help her as it did the Tories might have ditched her in 1983 or 1984. Leadership elections were the preserve of MPs and if they thought they would lose their seats she would have been out. The Tories are not afraid of ousting leaders before Thatcher, look at Heath in 1975....
Remsiners are now split between Swinson LDs and Corbyn Labour while Boris will win back many Brexit Party voters
I was there in the eighties, and Thatcher and Thatcherism was clearly a minority position. As a black mirror imagine Trump winning twenty 20 from a clear minority position, as Cortez and Harris both stand against him and divide up the majority vote amongst themselves with manifestos similar to each other and drastically different to trumps. That’s the british elections of 83, 87, 2020 and 2025.
When history gets written winners tend to come out better than they were
That doesn't sound like Farage himself is all that convinced by it!
Farage won't want to roll over that easy, not so long ago he was entertaining the prospect of being PM himself, and if Boris doesn't deliver by the 31st he will fancy his chances in the ensuing election.
Nigel is probably embarrassed that his big mate Donald is too 'closeted' to realize that Nigel and Boris are hated enemies bent on each other's destruction. And if Nigel did tell Donald that he's clearly forgotten or wasn't listening in the first place.
DUP to demand more cash for propping up Tories 'in coming weeks' in early warning to Boris Johnson Arlene Foster tells incoming prime minister the £1bn-plus confidence and supply agreement must be renewed ‘over the coming weeks’
And if Nigel did tell Donald that he's clearly forgotten or wasn't listening in the first place.
Trump was completely disinterested in what a Nadia Murad, a woman whose family have been murdered and is a recipient of the Nobel Peace Prize, was saying to him the other day. Unless Farage mentions something that might enrich Trump I expect it goes straight in one ear and out the other.
Sorry, hate to remind you but many women, other than his wives have seen him in bed, and he has no idea how many children he has fathered.
Johnson certainly "connects with voters in a way a lot of Tories don’t". He turns a greater proportion of non-Tories away than any PM since Thatcher - who had the country's economic turnaround to show for the people she upset.
All Johnson can show is a series of aborted projects and a long line of betrayed associates.
Except Thatcher also motivated Tories like no other and appealed to working class strives and one 3 elections, Boris appeals to a similar demographic
In two of those elections she had a split opposition. She also had a serious foreign policy crisis in the Falklands war that assisted her. A couple of years into the 1979 - 1983 Government she appeared vulnerable politically and had political luck not aligned to help her as it did the Tories might have ditched her in 1983 or 1984. Leadership elections were the preserve of MPs and if they thought they would lose their seats she would have been out. The Tories are not afraid of ousting leaders before Thatcher, look at Heath in 1975....
Remsiners are now split between Swinson LDs and Corbyn Labour while Boris will win back many Brexit Party voters
I was there in the eighties, and Thatcher and Thatcherism was clearly a minority position. As a black mirror imagine Trump winning twenty 20 from a clear minority position, as Cortez and Harris both stand against him and divide up the majority vote amongst themselves with manifestos similar to each other and drastically different to trumps. That’s the british elections of 83, 87, 2020 and 2025.
When history gets written winners tend to come out better than they were
The comparison between the 80s and now is simplistic, but what you posit is not impossible. It is, however, somewhat unlikely.
That guy has been playing classics all night. It was the wombles theme earlier, just as Heseltine was getting going.
The Wombles theme - "remember you're a womble bla bla" is utter tat but Wombling Merry Christmas - "all day long we will be wombelling in the sun etc" - is in a different league entirely. It's a much underrated song.
Cheers, all. I guess I'm just wallowing in self pity, but it's a place that feels comfortable at this exact moment in time. I'm minded to keep schtumm as far as the lads are concerned. They are all off this week to explore the world and start work. I reckon I'll let them enjoy themselves. They know Mum "has cancer" She'll be undergoing treatment while they are off living their lives. Not a lot will change in 4 or 6 weeks. Reality can wait a little longer.
Cheers, all. I guess I'm just wallowing in self pity, but it's a place that feels comfortable at this exact moment in time. I'm minded to keep schtumm as far as the lads are concerned. They are all off this week to explore the world and start work. I reckon I'll let them enjoy themselves. They know Mum "has cancer" She'll be undergoing treatment while they are off living their lives. Not a lot will change in 4 or 6 weeks. Reality can wait a little longer.
Just checked in and saw your news.
The Glenfield breast unit is excellent. I know them reasonably well and have faith in them. They get good results.
I have a cousin in a similar position. Aged 44 she found a lump and within weeks it was had spread. Next month we are celebrating her 50th birthday and she is to all appearances physically and mentally well. Her chemo is ongoing, but she never found it too gruelling and just gets on with it. She is fairly meticulous about it.
One thing she swears by is a dairy and soya free diet. This is not just voodoo, but based upon oestrogens, which are stimulators for breast cancer. By avoiding these she has done far better than her original prognosis suggested. Mrs TFS may want to consider this.
Health is the great leveller, and to be prized and appreciated. Best wishes.
I was there in the eighties, and Thatcher and Thatcherism was clearly a minority position. As a black mirror imagine Trump winning twenty 20 from a clear minority position, as Cortez and Harris both stand against him and divide up the majority vote amongst themselves with manifestos similar to each other and drastically different to trumps. That’s the british elections of 83, 87, 2020 and 2025.
When history gets written winners tend to come out better than they were
Great points. But there is something important you may be missing.
Remainers are - on balance and on the whole - just that little bit more intelligent than Leavers. I think this is generally accepted.
So if the next election revolves around tactical voting it is more likely to work to the advantage of Labour and Lib Dem than Con and BP.
You must do what you think best, but FWIW I agree with the others that openness is best.
Really sorry to hear this.
Obviously 'helpful' advice is probably not what you, or your wife most wants at this stage, but as, someone has already made a suggestion, I'll add, please explore complementary aspects of treatment like diet.
Cancer is not a natural state for the body, and the physiology of a cancer is different to that of a human. Cancers metabolise glucose (they live on sugar) whereas our bodies can live by burning fat. Many cancer patients therefore choose a ketogenic diet, minimising sugars and carbs, effectively depriving their cancer of its food source.
Doctors are not trained in nutrition, and in my (second hand) experience, oncologists will often ignore dietary and other lifestyle aspects. I think this is unwise. Ask them the tough, complex questions and don't accept glib answers.
I truly believe that your wife can be fully restored to health. Wish you all the best.
Apparently I've sacked Penny Morduant, reappointed Theresa Villiers (insane) and reinstated Gavin Williamson (who by all accounts was a twat as a pottery seller). Fucking unbelievable.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49086717
Some serious rewriting of history by tommy....nothing to do with, i was present but not involved.
He campaigned for Leave but what has he ever been instrumental in changing something other than keeping that woman in an Iranian jail for a longer period than was initially the case!
From our Internet research into the latest scientific papers on Breast Cancers, there are lots of different types, so you can not get a good read across from one person's treatment to another's.
I would advise to get the cancer DNA tested. This is likely to help with diagnosis and getting the right treatment. Some breast cancers are slow and easily treated, others are faster and more malign.
All the best and good luck to you and your wife.
I guess I'm just wallowing in self pity, but it's a place that feels comfortable at this exact moment in time.
I'm minded to keep schtumm as far as the lads are concerned. They are all off this week to explore the world and start work. I reckon I'll let them enjoy themselves. They know Mum "has cancer" She'll be undergoing treatment while they are off living their lives. Not a lot will change in 4 or 6 weeks.
Reality can wait a little longer.
https://twitter.com/jaredomaramp/status/1153742496209543168?s=20
and plenty more.... wow that's a thread and a half...
https://twitter.com/jamesrbuk/status/1153745042194030592
So sorry to hear that news. My thoughts are with you and your wife.
My very best wishes to you both.
It's probably the least threatening instrument for that tune as well!
Best wishes to you and your family
Fact is as some bone pointed out politely below, If you were to ask people about Gordon brown prime minister today they would say what an absolute load of crap, probably wouldn’t have on the day he became prime minister, the same with thatcher, wasn’t supposed to be there for ten years at the start, Thatcherism and the iron maiden moniker all came later, truth is Thatcher was stronger five years after becoming PM than the day she touched hands with the queen.
Boris is different than that as i think he does look set to be there for at least ten years, now he’s the king of the brexit plurality. The electoral demographic that surprised remain in 2016, a situation created by Blair Brown Cameron is there to be exploited and will remain in power for the next ten years at least.
Blair, Brown, Cameron, Osborne spent a quarter of a century stoking a 40%+ plurality for Boris, Bannon, Crosby and The Sun to now exploit! Much like Thatcher in the 1980s, the 2020s belong to them. Since 2016 the centre and left have not learnt any lessons, Libdem bollocks to brexit best deal is current deal is laughable, what Cameron brought back addresses the concerns of the leave voters more than current deal, and without winning them over you lose and go on losing, and Labour dont have the discipline and hunger for power required to win those voters either.
The header is wrong because winning is not about majority’s but pluralities. Boris doesn’t need a majority anywhere, he merely needs to surf the plurality to two landslides against divided opposition the same way Thatcher did.
And wrong because EU doesn’t cave to Boris, they cave to their own wish to grant a brexit deal to avoid no deal brexit
So in simple terms keep it in Cabinet he has a measure of control, call a referendum he has none.
Play all the ERGers for dolts. Which to be fair they all are.
Oh.. and asking for a job for his boyfriend, who also works/ed for JO’M!
My late wife had breast cancer and had a mastectomy, but she did NOT die from it. Amazing advances are being made.
The best advice I can give to TTFS is give his wife 100% support (which I know he will) but it bears restating. A cuddle thro the difficult times is invaluable/priceless
Farage won't want to roll over that easy, not so long ago he was entertaining the prospect of being PM himself, and if Boris doesn't deliver by the 31st he will fancy his chances in the ensuing election.
81% support referendum on Irish reunification
49% support Scottish independence
https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/xi390k7ca3/TheTimes_190719_LabourMemberResults_ww.pdf
When history gets written winners tend to come out better than they were
Arlene Foster tells incoming prime minister the £1bn-plus confidence and supply agreement must be renewed ‘over the coming weeks’
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/dup-boris-tories-money-confidence-supply-agreement-billion-a9017681.html
It is, however, somewhat unlikely.
The details are in the linked table.
https://twitter.com/stefanstern/status/1153767065666445313
NEW THREAD
The Glenfield breast unit is excellent. I know them reasonably well and have faith in them. They get good results.
I have a cousin in a similar position. Aged 44 she found a lump and within weeks it was had spread. Next month we are celebrating her 50th birthday and she is to all appearances physically and mentally well. Her chemo is ongoing, but she never found it too gruelling and just gets on with it. She is fairly meticulous about it.
One thing she swears by is a dairy and soya free diet. This is not just voodoo, but based upon oestrogens, which are stimulators for breast cancer. By avoiding these she has done far better than her original prognosis suggested. Mrs TFS may want to consider this.
Health is the great leveller, and to be prized and appreciated. Best wishes.
Remainers are - on balance and on the whole - just that little bit more intelligent than Leavers. I think this is generally accepted.
So if the next election revolves around tactical voting it is more likely to work to the advantage of Labour and Lib Dem than Con and BP.
Obviously 'helpful' advice is probably not what you, or your wife most wants at this stage, but as, someone has already made a suggestion, I'll add, please explore complementary aspects of treatment like diet.
Cancer is not a natural state for the body, and the physiology of a cancer is different to that of a human. Cancers metabolise glucose (they live on sugar) whereas our bodies can live by burning fat. Many cancer patients therefore choose a ketogenic diet, minimising sugars and carbs, effectively depriving their cancer of its food source.
Doctors are not trained in nutrition, and in my (second hand) experience, oncologists will often ignore dietary and other lifestyle aspects. I think this is unwise. Ask them the tough, complex questions and don't accept glib answers.
I truly believe that your wife can be fully restored to health. Wish you all the best.
Fucking unbelievable.