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  • Please check out link 24, it is the greatest link in nighthawks history
  • Re link 19, does anyone know any decent jam jokes?

    :Innocent face:
  • tim said:

    Can I do a review of tomorrows front pages when they come in?

    If they are dominated/discussing phone hacking trials, then no.
  • GeoffMGeoffM Posts: 6,071

    Please check out link 24, it is the greatest link in nighthawks history

    That's absolutely fantastic stuff!

  • Astonishing - love the golden snitch!!!
  • MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053
    Sunil_Prasannan said:
    Labour 644
    Tories 1
    LibDems 1
    UKIP 1
    Green 1
    Nationalists 1
    Northern Ireland 1

    :)

    A much truer picture emerges when this data goes through the MikeK crunching process:
    Labour 299
    Tories 270
    LibDems 18
    UKIP 44
    Green 0
    Nationalists 11
    Northern Ireland10
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    Astonishing. Deserves to go viral.

    Please check out link 24, it is the greatest link in nighthawks history

  • MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053
    24. Great stuff. Liked to have seen it in close up.
  • That marching band is pretty good. I like the ugly footie kits, ended up following a link to some very ropey goalkeeper's kit.

    Ex MP Gordon Brown is just plain barmy, he really is crap!
  • fitalassfitalass Posts: 4,320
    edited October 2013
    Dan Hodges in the Telegraph - The Red Guard are wrecking the trade unions

    "Len McCluskey is scared. It’s not a state of mind normally associated with the head of Britain’s most influential and aggressive trade union. But this morning, the Unite leader is a worried man.

    Earlier in the week, McCluskey had a bitter and very public humiliation. He led his union into dispute with Ineos, the owners of the giant Grangemouth refinery. The senior Unite conveyor at the plant, Stevie Deans, was already under investigation by the company over allegations about attempts to rig the selection of Labour’s parliamentary candidate in Falkirk."
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,734
    edited October 2013
    Pretty sure the Ohio state university marching band, who are awesome, have previously done a set incorporating video game themes and actions from Super Mario and Pokemon, which when it comes to geek cred has to rate even higher.

    ET: My mistake, it was California - apparently all marching bands are full of awesome geeks. I guess I should not have been surprised.

    http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-dorky-hobbies-taken-to-badass-extremes/
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    Yet, despite knowing about Gordon, the Parliamentary party elected him unopposed.

    And the people who did so are planning to govern us again. Be very afraid.

    That marching band is pretty good. I like the ugly footie kits, ended up following a link to some very ropey goalkeeper's kit.

    Ex MP Gordon Brown is just plain barmy, he really is crap!

  • Mick_PorkMick_Pork Posts: 6,530
    The Ohio marching band is now a tradition that regularly puts on shows like this that go viral and get hundreds of thousands and millions of youtube hits.

    In other 'news' cat pictures are quite popular on the internet apparently.

    *chortle*
  • saddenedsaddened Posts: 2,245

    Please check out link 24, it is the greatest link in nighthawks history

    Check out the video linked from the comments in your 24 link.
  • SMukeshSMukesh Posts: 1,759
    Brilliant!
  • fitalassfitalass Posts: 4,320
    Twitter
    Henry Smith ‏@HenrySmithMP 9h
    Police Scotland have confirmed to me they are investigating Unite's Labour parliamentary seat-fixing allegations in Falkirk again.
  • Mick_PorkMick_Pork Posts: 6,530

    Ex MP Gordon Brown is just plain barmy, he really is crap!

    Even Nabavi agreed that if someone as close to the PM as the repulsive spinner McBride was had then been found to have broken the law then Brown should have resigned on the spot.

  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,734
    fitalass said:

    Twitter
    Henry Smith ‏@HenrySmithMP 9h
    Police Scotland have confirmed to me they are investigating Unite's Labour parliamentary seat-fixing allegations in Falkirk again.

    Well judging by Plebgate, we can expect a report sometime in the next millenium then I suppose.
  • Mick_PorkMick_Pork Posts: 6,530
    kle4 said:

    fitalass said:

    Twitter
    Henry Smith ‏@HenrySmithMP 9h
    Police Scotland have confirmed to me they are investigating Unite's Labour parliamentary seat-fixing allegations in Falkirk again.

    Well judging by Plebgate, we can expect a report sometime in the next millenium then I suppose.
    They said at the time that the file would remain open in case any new information appeared.
    So if the information that was given to them back then turns out to be incomplete or even downright misleading I suspect they will be less than pleased.

  • JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    MikeK said:

    Sunil_Prasannan said:
    Labour 644
    Tories 1
    LibDems 1
    UKIP 1
    Green 1
    Nationalists 1
    Northern Ireland 1

    :)

    A much truer picture emerges when this data goes through the MikeK crunching process:
    Labour 299
    Tories 270
    LibDems 18
    UKIP 44
    Green 0
    Nationalists 11
    Northern Ireland10

    What happened to the other 8 NI seats, did you give them away to the Republic of Ireland ?!?

  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,734
    Mick_Pork said:

    kle4 said:

    fitalass said:

    Twitter
    Henry Smith ‏@HenrySmithMP 9h
    Police Scotland have confirmed to me they are investigating Unite's Labour parliamentary seat-fixing allegations in Falkirk again.

    Well judging by Plebgate, we can expect a report sometime in the next millenium then I suppose.
    They said at the time that the file would remain open in case any new information appeared.
    So if the information that was given to them back then turns out to be incomplete or even downright misleading I suspect they will be less than pleased.

    I imagine so. I was merely griping at the often laborious processes of justice, but then sometimes it is the only appropriate way.
  • Mick_PorkMick_Pork Posts: 6,530
    kle4 said:

    Mick_Pork said:

    kle4 said:

    fitalass said:

    Twitter
    Henry Smith ‏@HenrySmithMP 9h
    Police Scotland have confirmed to me they are investigating Unite's Labour parliamentary seat-fixing allegations in Falkirk again.

    Well judging by Plebgate, we can expect a report sometime in the next millenium then I suppose.
    They said at the time that the file would remain open in case any new information appeared.
    So if the information that was given to them back then turns out to be incomplete or even downright misleading I suspect they will be less than pleased.

    I imagine so. I was merely griping at the often laborious processes of justice, but then sometimes it is the only appropriate way.
    Depends on the case. Anything political with a spotlight on it will always take time but that also means it can't be ignored regardless of the time passed.

  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    Labour still not investigating Falkirk.

    What a stark contrast to Plebgate.

    If only Cameron had done the Police federation's bidding like Ed has done for Uncle Len, eh?
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    MikeK said:


    A much truer picture emerges when this data goes through the MikeK crunching process:
    Labour 299
    Tories 270
    LibDems 18
    UKIP 44
    Green 0
    Nationalists 11
    Northern Ireland10

    Will you put money on UKIP winning 44 seats? I'll off you £1 per seat on 2/1 (i.e. your max loss is £44, my max loss is (£650-44)*2
  • SMukeshSMukesh Posts: 1,759
    tim said:

    Massive fall in US deficit.

    The Associated Press ‏@AP 36m
    US deficit falls to $680.3B in 2013, first time in 5 years imbalance falls below $1T: http://apne.ws/16NhfWl -RAS

    Who can remember when the Tory deficit hawks used to knock Obama?

    It`ll be funny if the U.S goes into surplus before 2015 while Osborne plans for us to have a surplus by 2020.

    Though judging by his record,it probably means never.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,061
    Good evening, Earthlings and my fellow Kryptonian supermen.

    Cheers for Link 24, Mr. Eagles. It reminds me of one of Alexander's early battles (no really). After he became King the Greeks threw off Macedonian hegemony, and he was forced to spend a couple of years (he was at A-level age during this time) reasserting Macedonian dominance.

    However, he found himself in an extremely difficult situation. When he got near a certain enemy they (possessing the advantage of height) rained down such projectile fire victory was impossible. He was penned in, and unable to leave any other way.

    So, he had the Macedonian army draw a short way off and then go through several hours of advanced military drill (necessary for when you're fighting with 16' spears). After watching this in confusion, astonishment and then boredom, the enemy were practically asleep when he suddenly ordered a charge, and attacked the enemy before they could get their act together.

    It's probably the weirdest military tactic (that worked) that I can think of.
  • Labour 645
    LibDems 1
    Tories 0
    UKIP 1
    Greens 1
    Nationalists 1
    Northern Ireland 1

    :)
  • JackWJackW Posts: 14,787

    Labour 645
    LibDems 1
    Tories 0
    UKIP 1
    Greens 1
    Nationalists 1
    Northern Ireland 1

    :)

    Was that last Labour GAIN at Broxtowe ??

  • Yes link 24 is tremendous fun!
  • surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549
    JackW said:

    MikeK said:

    Sunil_Prasannan said:
    Labour 644
    Tories 1
    LibDems 1
    UKIP 1
    Green 1
    Nationalists 1
    Northern Ireland 1

    :)

    A much truer picture emerges when this data goes through the MikeK crunching process:
    Labour 299
    Tories 270
    LibDems 18
    UKIP 44
    Green 0
    Nationalists 11
    Northern Ireland10

    What happened to the other 8 NI seats, did you give them away to the Republic of Ireland ?!?

    Clearly, UKIP won them !

  • GeoffMGeoffM Posts: 6,071
    JackW said:

    Labour 645
    LibDems 1
    Tories 0
    UKIP 1
    Greens 1
    Nationalists 1
    Northern Ireland 1

    :)

    Was that last Labour GAIN at Broxtowe ??

    Hopefully not. The candidates there from both main parties are dreadful beyond words.
    If only that was the successful UKIP result and Soubry + Palmer had both been consigned to the political bin.

  • Is it meant to be a speeder bike 5 minutes in?
  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    So two things to take away from Night Hawks this evening -

    Firstly, as a proud Tyke, (and from the other day, yes, kecks are pants), to me Yorkshire has always been the best place in the world to go: I just can't stand living in the UK. Every time I visit the UK I always take off for a few days in the Dales, to recharge my batteries and revisit the places of my youth. Every time gets more special because when I look out over Malham Cove, climb Ingleborough, Whernside or Pen-Y-Gent, I wonder if it'll be the last time, and so try to take in all I can. As time goes on I have less and less reason to visit.

    Secondly the Ohio State Marching Band are great. I've seen them live, and it's all part of the sights and sounds, tradition and pageantry of college football, this one shot during the Michigan - Ohio State game. Their party piece each home game - when they're not doing wonderful stuff like in the video - is ending their display with the 'script Ohio', the last part of which is the man dotting the i. It's usually one of the big drum players or someone with a large brass instrument, but sometimes it's a notable Ohio Sate alumnus, such as Jack Nicklaus. (you knew golf would get in here somehow, right?)

    Marching bands are an integral part of college football, like cheerleaders and mascots. There's the Alabama 'million dollar band', and so on. Some of the best marching band performances come from the bands of HBCUs such as Grambling and Jackson State, with band members prancing around and doing things with their bodies which seem impossible. They put on quite a show.
  • tim said:

    Massive fall in US deficit.

    The Associated Press ‏@AP 36m
    US deficit falls to $680.3B in 2013, first time in 5 years imbalance falls below $1T: http://apne.ws/16NhfWl -RAS

    Who can remember when the Tory deficit hawks used to knock Obama?

    So Obama's clearing up the mess left by Blair's buddy Bush , while the Coalition clears up the mess left by Labour.
    EdM's lame rhetoric is out of the Romney's failed playbook.

  • JackWJackW Posts: 14,787

    Is it meant to be a speeder bike 5 minutes in?

    Harry Potter playing quidditch.

  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669

    tim said:

    Massive fall in US deficit.

    The Associated Press ‏@AP 36m
    US deficit falls to $680.3B in 2013, first time in 5 years imbalance falls below $1T: http://apne.ws/16NhfWl -RAS

    Who can remember when the Tory deficit hawks used to knock Obama?

    So Obama's clearing up the mess left by Blair's buddy Bush , while the Coalition clears up the mess left by Labour.
    EdM's lame rhetoric is out of the Romney's failed playbook.

    Think sequester and shutdown, and also inceased taxes. The next phase of the sequester is due in January.
  • SMukeshSMukesh Posts: 1,759
    tim said:

    tim said:

    Massive fall in US deficit.

    The Associated Press ‏@AP 36m
    US deficit falls to $680.3B in 2013, first time in 5 years imbalance falls below $1T: http://apne.ws/16NhfWl -RAS

    Who can remember when the Tory deficit hawks used to knock Obama?

    So Obama's clearing up the mess left by Blair's buddy Bush , while the Coalition clears up the mess left by Labour.
    EdM's lame rhetoric is out of the Romney's failed playbook.

    Except Osborne is increasing spending due to his ineptitude.
    Govt spending along with consumer credit and state subsidised mortgages are Osbornes trademark

    Joe Sarling ‏@joesarling
    Lending to real economy ↓; lending on housing ↑; consumer credit ↑, SME loans ↓ #danger | http://bit.ly/1cg0hUl | pic.twitter.com/t077vsoRFc

    Except Labour suggested Obama`s way and Osborne was precursor to Romney`s plan before he partially `u`turned and slowed the cut in spending!
  • JackW said:

    Labour 645
    LibDems 1
    Tories 0
    UKIP 1
    Greens 1
    Nationalists 1
    Northern Ireland 1

    :)

    Was that last Labour GAIN at Broxtowe ??

    It might be!
  • JackW said:

    Is it meant to be a speeder bike 5 minutes in?

    Harry Potter playing quidditch.

    I knew the music didn't match :)
  • Mick_PorkMick_Pork Posts: 6,530
    edited October 2013
    Lani ‏@formerbondgirl 5m

    Poll: Christie tops other potential 2016 GOP candidates in South Carolina http://dailycaller.com/2013/10/30/poll-christie-tops-other-potential-2016-gop-candidates-in-south-carolina/ … I think I'm going 2 be sick #teaparty

    Manu Raju ‏@mkraju 44m

    NEWS: Cruz privately offers R sens olive branch on SCF. Won't fundraise, won't be involved in primaries. http://www.politico.com/story/2013/10/ted-cruz-republican-senators-99125.html
    Yet more smooth sailing ahead for the GOP. ;)
  • This doesn't bode well from the BBC blog:

    Tottenham 2-2 Hull
    Apparently Tottenham have lost their last seven penalty shoot-outs. They are minutes away from another one...
  • Especially as we appear to have had 22 shots tonight, 3 on target....
  • Especially as we appear to have had 22 shots tonight, 3 on target....

    24 shots, 3 on target.

    Barn door, banjo.

  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    Loved 24!

    Here's a cute collection of doodles featuring everyday objects:

    http://twistedsifter.com/2013/10/doodles-that-incorporate-everyday-objects-javier-perez/
  • john_zimsjohn_zims Posts: 3,399
    @Tim

    'Who can remember when the Tory deficit hawks used to knock Obama?'

    Who can remember idiot Balls didn't even know that Labour had a structural deficit
  • Lamela for £30m quid - bargain!!!
  • tysontyson Posts: 6,120
    We live, and then we die

  • SimonStClareSimonStClare Posts: 7,976
    24. - Don't have to be a geek to find that totally AWESOME ...!
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,574
    tim said:

    Tomorrows front pages

    @suttonnick: Thursday's Racing Post front page #tomorrowspaperstoday #bbcpapers http://t.co/gTuRu7Djxz

    Back the Fugue you reckon Tim ?
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 124,519
    Daily Star - Princess Diana's ghost tells Kate Middleton: 'You're too thin!'
    http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/348079/Princess-Diana-s-ghost-tells-Kate-Middleton-You-re-too-thin-
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 124,519
    On the Cait Reilly judgement, I have to say I agree in part, although the judgement was clearly right that she was not undergoing slave labour, nonetheless there is no reason why work experience in the field in which she was qualified should not count as working for her benefits
  • Mick_PorkMick_Pork Posts: 6,530
    HYUFD said:

    Daily Star - Princess Diana's ghost tells Kate Middleton: 'You're too thin!'
    http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/348079/Princess-Diana-s-ghost-tells-Kate-Middleton-You-re-too-thin-

    Appalling. That's clearly an Express story Desmond missed out on. ;)
  • Y0kelY0kel Posts: 2,307
    Syria: It appears the Israelis may have just flattened a Syrian military facility on the coast of the Med.

    Link 24...typical bloody students, nothing better to do with their time....
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 124,519
    Some interesting comments from Blair today, both on the need for spending cuts before the crisis and advice for future politicians to "go and spend some time out of politics. Go and work for a community organisation, a business, start your own business — do anything that isn’t politics for at least several years.”
  • HYUFD said:
    Interesting take by the CiF crowd. Looks like many have finally had it with democracy. (You know, that thing that occasionally delivers right-of-centre governments.)

    http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2013/oct/30/robert-webb-russell-brand-vote
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    The Hon Hunt having a car crash on Newsnight.....
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 124,519
    Churchill bust unveiled in DC attended by Kerry, Pelosi, McConnell and Reid and Nicholas Soames
    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/30/churchill-bust-unveiled-kerry-boehner
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    For a clever fellow, Hunt is not very bright.

    If he was brought in for his television performance, then how awful the others may be...

    The Hon Hunt having a car crash on Newsnight.....

  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 124,519
    StarkDowning A few sometimes say they will vote Green or TUSC if they cannot bring themselves to vote for Miliband but CIF is basically the polar opposite of the Daily Telegraph or Daily Mail, where the comments are even more full of loathing of Cameron and support for UKIP, neither represents the mainstream of UK politics, if we left them do it every election would basically be a contest between Michael Foot or George Galloway and Duncan Smith and Farage!
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 124,519
    MP I will checking tomorrow's edition with interest
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 124,519
    MP Clearly a good result for Christie in SC, but the combined Cruz and Paul vote is well beyond his total
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216

    For a clever fellow, Hunt is not very bright.

    If he was brought in for his television performance, then how awful the others may be...

    The Hon Hunt having a car crash on Newsnight.....

    Chuka Umunna is sleeping soundly tonight.....Hunt also walked straight into the trap Gove laid for him in the HoC today, when talking about a famous telegenic teacher called Tristram - "no, not you Tristram, it's not all about you....." Several on the a Labour benches laughed a little too heartily.....

  • Y0kelY0kel Posts: 2,307
    Ted Cruz at this point is all noise and no sound. He has a way to go before he becomes a proper challenger rather than a bloke who is flavour of the month in particular GOP circles.
  • SMukesh said:

    tim said:

    Massive fall in US deficit.

    The Associated Press ‏@AP 36m
    US deficit falls to $680.3B in 2013, first time in 5 years imbalance falls below $1T: http://apne.ws/16NhfWl -RAS

    Who can remember when the Tory deficit hawks used to knock Obama?

    It`ll be funny if the U.S goes into surplus before 2015 while Osborne plans for us to have a surplus by 2020.

    Though judging by his record,it probably means never.
    Helped hugely by shale gas.

    All for fracking are we chaps!

  • MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053
    Y0kel said:

    Syria: It appears the Israelis may have just flattened a Syrian military facility on the coast of the Med.

    Link 24...typical bloody students, nothing better to do with their time....

    Link please on this Iraeli attack. I can't find any reference to this.
  • Y0kelY0kel Posts: 2,307
    MikeK said:

    Y0kel said:

    Syria: It appears the Israelis may have just flattened a Syrian military facility on the coast of the Med.

    Link 24...typical bloody students, nothing better to do with their time....

    Link please on this Iraeli attack. I can't find any reference to this.
    Give it an hour and the news will come out of the incident. I should stress no one is sure what happened other than there was mighty explosion bang on an air defence facility on the coast in the heart of Alawite country. The money is, however, on the Israelis after an incident with e Syrians earlier today down the Golan.

  • MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053
    Y0kel said:

    MikeK said:

    Y0kel said:

    Syria: It appears the Israelis may have just flattened a Syrian military facility on the coast of the Med.

    Link 24...typical bloody students, nothing better to do with their time....

    Link please on this Iraeli attack. I can't find any reference to this.
    Give it an hour and the news will come out of the incident. I should stress no one is sure what happened other than there was mighty explosion bang on an air defence facility on the coast in the heart of Alawite country. The money is, however, on the Israelis after an incident with e Syrians earlier today down the Golan.

    You are right. First hard news on this from the Times of Israel:
    http://www.timesofisrael.com/huge-explosion-reported-at-syrian-air-defense-base/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
  • BobajobBobajob Posts: 1,536
    Tim_B said:

    So two things to take away from Night Hawks this evening -

    Firstly, as a proud Tyke, (and from the other day, yes, kecks are pants), to me Yorkshire has always been the best place in the world to go: I just can't stand living in the UK. Every time I visit the UK I always take off for a few days in the Dales, to recharge my batteries and revisit the places of my youth. Every time gets more special because when I look out over Malham Cove, climb Ingleborough, Whernside or Pen-Y-Gent, I wonder if it'll be the last time, and so try to take in all I can. As time goes on I have less and less reason to visit.

    Secondly the Ohio State Marching Band are great. I've seen them live, and it's all part of the sights and sounds, tradition and pageantry of college football, this one shot during the Michigan - Ohio State game. Their party piece each home game - when they're not doing wonderful stuff like in the video - is ending their display with the 'script Ohio', the last part of which is the man dotting the i. It's usually one of the big drum players or someone with a large brass instrument, but sometimes it's a notable Ohio Sate alumnus, such as Jack Nicklaus. (you knew golf would get in here somehow, right?)

    Marching bands are an integral part of college football, like cheerleaders and mascots. There's the Alabama 'million dollar band', and so on. Some of the best marching band performances come from the bands of HBCUs such as Grambling and Jackson State, with band members prancing around and doing things with their bodies which seem impossible. They put on quite a show.

    You can't stand living in the UK - yet you live in Atlanta. What part of a searingly hot, oppressively humid, road-choked cultural wilderness do you find attractive?
  • Bobajob said:

    Tim_B said:

    So two things to take away from Night Hawks this evening -

    Firstly, as a proud Tyke, (and from the other day, yes, kecks are pants), to me Yorkshire has always been the best place in the world to go: I just can't stand living in the UK. Every time I visit the UK I always take off for a few days in the Dales, to recharge my batteries and revisit the places of my youth. Every time gets more special because when I look out over Malham Cove, climb Ingleborough, Whernside or Pen-Y-Gent, I wonder if it'll be the last time, and so try to take in all I can. As time goes on I have less and less reason to visit.

    Secondly the Ohio State Marching Band are great. I've seen them live, and it's all part of the sights and sounds, tradition and pageantry of college football, this one shot during the Michigan - Ohio State game. Their party piece each home game - when they're not doing wonderful stuff like in the video - is ending their display with the 'script Ohio', the last part of which is the man dotting the i. It's usually one of the big drum players or someone with a large brass instrument, but sometimes it's a notable Ohio Sate alumnus, such as Jack Nicklaus. (you knew golf would get in here somehow, right?)

    Marching bands are an integral part of college football, like cheerleaders and mascots. There's the Alabama 'million dollar band', and so on. Some of the best marching band performances come from the bands of HBCUs such as Grambling and Jackson State, with band members prancing around and doing things with their bodies which seem impossible. They put on quite a show.

    You can't stand living in the UK - yet you live in Atlanta. What part of a searingly hot, oppressively humid, road-choked cultural wilderness do you find attractive?
    Best place in the world is Cornwall, absolutely glorious. Until it rains. Which is often.
  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    RT @itvnews: A near-90-year ban on filming in court will be lifted today itv.co/1h0XRz2 pic.twitter.com/UoGq5jb0l2
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,574
    Plato said:

    RT @itvnews: A near-90-year ban on filming in court will be lifted today itv.co/1h0XRz2 pic.twitter.com/UoGq5jb0l2

    Ah Good, just in time for some cases...
  • BobajobBobajob Posts: 1,536

    Bobajob said:

    Tim_B said:

    So two things to take away from Night Hawks this evening -

    Firstly, as a proud Tyke, (and from the other day, yes, kecks are pants), to me Yorkshire has always been the best place in the world to go: I just can't stand living in the UK. Every time I visit the UK I always take off for a few days in the Dales, to recharge my batteries and revisit the places of my youth. Every time gets more special because when I look out over Malham Cove, climb Ingleborough, Whernside or Pen-Y-Gent, I wonder if it'll be the last time, and so try to take in all I can. As time goes on I have less and less reason to visit.

    Secondly the Ohio State Marching Band are great. I've seen them live, and it's all part of the sights and sounds, tradition and pageantry of college football, this one shot during the Michigan - Ohio State game. Their party piece each home game - when they're not doing wonderful stuff like in the video - is ending their display with the 'script Ohio', the last part of which is the man dotting the i. It's usually one of the big drum players or someone with a large brass instrument, but sometimes it's a notable Ohio Sate alumnus, such as Jack Nicklaus. (you knew golf would get in here somehow, right?)

    Marching bands are an integral part of college football, like cheerleaders and mascots. There's the Alabama 'million dollar band', and so on. Some of the best marching band performances come from the bands of HBCUs such as Grambling and Jackson State, with band members prancing around and doing things with their bodies which seem impossible. They put on quite a show.

    You can't stand living in the UK - yet you live in Atlanta. What part of a searingly hot, oppressively humid, road-choked cultural wilderness do you find attractive?
    Best place in the world is Cornwall, absolutely glorious. Until it rains. Which is often.
    Agreed. The Cornish coast when the sun shines is the lovliest place in the world.
  • fitalassfitalass Posts: 4,320
    The Unite/Falkirk/Labour/Grangemouth scandal rumbles on as it continues to make the headlines as yet further damaging details emerge. This is bound to lead to increased pressure on Ed Miliband and the Labour party to publish their own report having tried so hard to bury it after their own bruising encounter with Unite which led to them backing down.

    The scandal makes the front page of the Scottish Daily Mail a week after the Grangemouth survival plan was agreed.
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  • fitalassfitalass Posts: 4,320
    No, the best place in the world to live is the Highlands of Scotland, if it wasn't for the midges it would be perfect. :)

    Bobajob said:

    Tim_B said:

    So two things to take away from Night Hawks this evening -

    Firstly, as a proud Tyke, (and from the other day, yes, kecks are pants), to me Yorkshire has always been the best place in the world to go: I just can't stand living in the UK. Every time I visit the UK I always take off for a few days in the Dales, to recharge my batteries and revisit the places of my youth. Every time gets more special because when I look out over Malham Cove, climb Ingleborough, Whernside or Pen-Y-Gent, I wonder if it'll be the last time, and so try to take in all I can. As time goes on I have less and less reason to visit.

    Secondly the Ohio State Marching Band are great. I've seen them live, and it's all part of the sights and sounds, tradition and pageantry of college football, this one shot during the Michigan - Ohio State game. Their party piece each home game - when they're not doing wonderful stuff like in the video - is ending their display with the 'script Ohio', the last part of which is the man dotting the i. It's usually one of the big drum players or someone with a large brass instrument, but sometimes it's a notable Ohio Sate alumnus, such as Jack Nicklaus. (you knew golf would get in here somehow, right?)

    Marching bands are an integral part of college football, like cheerleaders and mascots. There's the Alabama 'million dollar band', and so on. Some of the best marching band performances come from the bands of HBCUs such as Grambling and Jackson State, with band members prancing around and doing things with their bodies which seem impossible. They put on quite a show.

    You can't stand living in the UK - yet you live in Atlanta. What part of a searingly hot, oppressively humid, road-choked cultural wilderness do you find attractive?
    Best place in the world is Cornwall, absolutely glorious. Until it rains. Which is often.

    Bobajob said:

    Tim_B said:

    Best place in the world is Cornwall, absolutely glorious. Until it rains. Which is often.
  • dugarbandierdugarbandier Posts: 2,596
    fitalass said:

    No, the best place in the world to live is the Highlands of Scotland, if it wasn't for the midges it would be perfect. :)

    Bobajob said:

    Tim_B said:

    So two things to take away from Night Hawks this evening -

    Firstly, as a proud Tyke, (and from the other day, yes, kecks are pants), to me Yorkshire has always been the best place in the world to go: I just can't stand living in the UK. Every time I visit the UK I always take off for a few days in the Dales, to recharge my batteries and revisit the places of my youth. Every time gets more special because when I look out over Malham Cove, climb Ingleborough, Whernside or Pen-Y-Gent, I wonder if it'll be the last time, and so try to take in all I can. As time goes on I have less and less reason to visit.

    Secondly the Ohio State Marching Band are great. I've seen them live, and it's all part of the sights and sounds, tradition and pageantry of college football, this one shot during the Michigan - Ohio State game. Their party piece each home game - when they're not doing wonderful stuff like in the video - is ending their display with the 'script Ohio', the last part of which is the man dotting the i. It's usually one of the big drum players or someone with a large brass instrument, but sometimes it's a notable Ohio Sate alumnus, such as Jack Nicklaus. (you knew golf would get in here somehow, right?)

    Marching bands are an integral part of college football, like cheerleaders and mascots. There's the Alabama 'million dollar band', and so on. Some of the best marching band performances come from the bands of HBCUs such as Grambling and Jackson State, with band members prancing around and doing things with their bodies which seem impossible. They put on quite a show.

    You can't stand living in the UK - yet you live in Atlanta. What part of a searingly hot, oppressively humid, road-choked cultural wilderness do you find attractive?
    Best place in the world is Cornwall, absolutely glorious. Until it rains. Which is often.

    Bobajob said:

    Tim_B said:

    Best place in the world is Cornwall, absolutely glorious. Until it rains. Which is often.
    the midges are a test of character :)
  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    I referred yesterday to NBC News reporting that the Obamacare regulations published in June 2010 included the phrase that "a reasonable range for the percentage of individual policies that would terminate is 40% to 67%".

    If you recall, Obama said on many occasions, both before and after Obamacare's passage, that if you like your health plan you can keep it, and if you like your doctor, you can keep him or her. Guaranteed.

    I just watched the Kathleen Sebelius appearance today.

    There was an exchange between a Republican congressman and Ms. Sebelius that if the policy premium had gone up by $1 the policy would not be grandfathered in to Obamacare. She corrected the Congressman that the figure was in fact $5.

    How many insurance policy premiums of any kind do you know that did not increase by at least $5 between March 2010 and October 2013?

    The 2 million policy cancellations that have resulted are no accident. There will be plenty more.

    The president is now dealing with the fallout of his multiple statements now shown to be untrue.
  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    BobaJob -

    You can't stand living in the UK - yet you live in Atlanta. What part of a searingly hot, oppressively humid, road-choked cultural wilderness do you find attractive?

    That doesn't sound like a serious question in which you are genuinely interested in the answer.
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    Ed Miliband ‏@Ed_Miliband 1m

    Red sox champions in 2004, 2007 and now 2013. First time winning world series at home since 1918 #redsox
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    Much as I love the Highlands; it is not the midges; it is the long dark winters. The cold is fine; but the absence of natural light...

    Having been to Atlanta, I can see the point of Bobajobs question.

    I would make the case for Capetown, were it not for the random violence, rather more hazardous than midges. Christchurch NZ was delightful before the Earthquake.

    Of world cities, I would go for Berlin; of British places, Rutland. Small but perfectly formed.


    I

    fitalass said:

    No, the best place in the world to live is the Highlands of Scotland, if it wasn't for the midges it would be perfect. :)

    Bobajob said:

    Tim_B said:

    So two things to take away from Night Hawks this evening -

    Firstly, as a proud Tyke, (and from the other day, yes, kecks are pants), to me Yorkshire has always been the best place in the world to go: I just can't stand living in the UK. Every time I visit the UK I always take off for a few days in the Dales, to recharge my batteries and revisit the places of my youth. Every time gets more special because when I look out over Malham Cove, climb Ingleborough, Whernside or Pen-Y-Gent, I wonder if it'll be the last time, and so try to take in all I can. As time goes on I have less and less reason to visit.

    Marching bands are an integral part of college football, like cheerleaders and mascots. There's the Alabama 'million dollar band', and so on. Some of the best marching band rformances come from the bands of HBCUs such as Grambling and Jackson State, with band members prancing around and doing things with their bodies which seem impossible. They put on quite a show.

    You can't stand living in the UK - yet you live in Atlanta. What part of a searingly hot, oppressively humid, road-choked cultural wilderness do you find attractive?
    Best place in the world is Cornwall, absolutely glorious. Until it rains. Which is often.

    Bobajob said:

    Tim_B said:

    Best place in the world is Cornwall, absolutely glorious. Until it rains. Which is often.
    the midges are a test of character :)
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    Posh boy down!

    "He has been touted as a future Labour leader and “the new Blair”. So you can imagine a future chronicler of the Tristram Hunt premiership devoting a page or two to his first big debate as shadow Education Secretary. If the author is as professional a historian as Hunt himself is, he’s unlikely to describe it as an unalloyed triumph.

    To borrow from boxing, it was like watching a promising new Great White Hope having his first try-out against a weathered prize-fighter. A shameless Michael Gove showed off to the crowd, used lots of fancy footwork and hit his opponent more than once below the belt. He secured a clear win on points."

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/donald-macintyres-sketch-tristram-hunt-caught-on-the-ropes-by-michael-gove-8913941.html
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    If Miliband won't act over Falkirk/Unite/Deans looks like the local constituency party will:

    "THE union official at the centre of the Grangemouth dispute that nearly led to 800 workers losing their jobs faces being ousted as chairman of his local Labour Party.

    Members of the Falkirk West ­Constituency Labour Party (CLP) are expected to bring forward a motion of no confidence in Stephen Deans's leadership at a meeting on Sunday."

    http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/refinery-row-union-official-to-be-ousted.22568385
  • TomsToms Posts: 2,478

    Please check out link 24, it is the greatest link in nighthawks history

    Did I hear someone say that the Americans didn't know how to queue?
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    So Miliband is going to hide behind the police inquiry into Unite/Falkirk:

    "A Labour source said: ‘We think it is a wise course of action to let the police finish their process and we will consider the position after that.’

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2480660/Fresh-police-probe-rigging-Labour-poll.html#ixzz2jHIoszWM

    Last time the inquiries ran in parallel - why do differently this time?

    Is Milband hoping he can bury the whole thing under "Police say nothing to see"? Of course, what it will be is (the Scottish equivalent of) "not enough evidence to mount a successful prosecution" - which may be a long way from "nothing to see, move along".....
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    Tristam. Where did it all go wrong?

    Sounds like Gove wiped the floor with him.

    I do not particularly like Gove, but he is formidable and unafraid of confrontation. I have a few quid on him as next Tory leader.

    Posh boy down!

    "He has been touted as a future Labour leader and “the new Blair”. So you can imagine a future chronicler of the Tristram Hunt premiership devoting a page or two to his first big debate as shadow Education Secretary. If the author is as professional a historian as Hunt himself is, he’s unlikely to describe it as an unalloyed triumph.

    To borrow from boxing, it was like watching a promising new Great White Hope having his first try-out against a weathered prize-fighter. A shameless Michael Gove showed off to the crowd, used lots of fancy footwork and hit his opponent more than once below the belt. He secured a clear win on points."

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/donald-macintyres-sketch-tristram-hunt-caught-on-the-ropes-by-michael-gove-8913941.html

  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    I agree that the police investigations into forced marriage, and forced FGM are a scandal.

    Rather as the police were very reluctant to take seriosly the sex grooming gangs in Northern towns, they have been very slow to investigate these issues.

    I would agreee with your view that we should get the police onto these scandals; much as I am sympathetic to the McCanns.
    tim said:

    @Carlotta

    They ran in parallel, really?
    Miliband called the police in at the beginning of July after the report.

    I know you're operating on a Cameron timescale here where the man with the evidence sits on it for three months but it appears to be distorting your thinking.
    (or perhaps dispatching detectives based on how photogenic the victim appears is your preferred model, blonde child 30 - brown child 0)

  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    @tim - the report that concluded no case to answer? Really ? Wouldn't that count as 'wasting Police time'?
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    @tim - your spinning on Falkirk has been truly heroic - it must be the biggest "non- story" of your career!

    You have to live with that - and "look squirrels" over other cases can't detract from that......
  • BobajobBobajob Posts: 1,536

    @tim - your spinning on Falkirk has been truly heroic - it must be the biggest "non- story" of your career!

    You have to live with that - and "look squirrels" over other cases can't detract from that......

    What is the story in Falkirk exactly? I don't know, and I have spoken to precisely zero people who have brought it up in conversation
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,192
    This piece by Hopi Sen is well worth a read: http://hopisen.com/2013/thousands-will-certainly-die/#comment-21824

    He really is the intelligent man's lefty who does his homework. He demonstrates 2 things. Firstly, that the trends on excess winter deaths are on a downward trend and unrelated to energy prices per se. Secondly, that the policies espoused by a certain Ed Miliband amongst others whilst in office improving our existing housing stock and improving energy efficiency really worked. There is a strong correlation between the age of your house (note not size or value but age) and excess winter deaths. Good insulation works.

    All of this demonstrates to me that Ed (a) is not totally useless but (b) is shameless in promoting a policy that threatens the funding for such programs. Mr Sen laments that the successes of the policies that Ed promoted in office are not getting a look in. It is indeed a shame.
  • dugarbandierdugarbandier Posts: 2,596
    Bobajob said:

    @tim - your spinning on Falkirk has been truly heroic - it must be the biggest "non- story" of your career!

    You have to live with that - and "look squirrels" over other cases can't detract from that......

    What is the story in Falkirk exactly? I don't know, and I have spoken to precisely zero people who have brought it up in conversation
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  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    tim said:

    Bobajob said:

    @tim - your spinning on Falkirk has been truly heroic - it must be the biggest "non- story" of your career!

    You have to live with that - and "look squirrels" over other cases can't detract from that......

    What is the story in Falkirk exactly? I don't know, and I have spoken to precisely zero people who have brought it up in conversation
    Compare the number of PB Tory posts on Grangemouth compared to the press charter which Cameron got through yesterday.
    That tells you two things.

    1.Grangemouth is not damaging Ed.
    2.They are uncomfortable with the press charter, know it hurts Dave with the right wing press, but cannot articulate their discomfort due to loyalty and intellectual incoherence
    Don't mention Falkirk or tim will send round the "Leverage Team"....
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    Only two data points - but interesting to track the changes in Leader's ratings over the last year:

    Cameron (diff vs end-Oct 2012)
    Sticks to what he believes in: 22 (+6)
    Charismatic: 15 (-2)
    Decisive: 15 (+3)
    Strong: 15 (+2)
    Honest: 14 (+1)
    Natural Leader: 13 (-)
    Good in a crisis: 13 (+3)
    In touch with concerns of ordinary people: 6 (+1)

    Miliband:
    In touch with concerns of ordinary people: 24 (-5)
    Honest: 17 (-3)
    Sticks to what he believes in: 17 (-2)
    Decisive: 8 (-1)
    Strong: 7 (-2)
    Charismatic: 5 (-2)
    Good in a crisis: 5 (-1)

    While these numbers tend to bounce about a bit - not a lot of change over the past year.
  • DavidL said:

    This piece by Hopi Sen is well worth a read: http://hopisen.com/2013/thousands-will-certainly-die/#comment-21824

    He really is the intelligent man's lefty who does his homework. He demonstrates 2 things. Firstly, that the trends on excess winter deaths are on a downward trend and unrelated to energy prices per se. Secondly, that the policies espoused by a certain Ed Miliband amongst others whilst in office improving our existing housing stock and improving energy efficiency really worked. There is a strong correlation between the age of your house (note not size or value but age) and excess winter deaths. Good insulation works.

    All of this demonstrates to me that Ed (a) is not totally useless but (b) is shameless in promoting a policy that threatens the funding for such programs. Mr Sen laments that the successes of the policies that Ed promoted in office are not getting a look in. It is indeed a shame.

    Isn't the funding threatened by the Tories wanting to get rid of the green levies they used to be so keen on?

  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    Bobajob said:

    @tim - your spinning on Falkirk has been truly heroic - it must be the biggest "non- story" of your career!

    You have to live with that - and "look squirrels" over other cases can't detract from that......

    What is the story in Falkirk exactly? I don't know, and I have spoken to precisely zero people who have brought it up in conversation
    You didn't notice 'Grangemouth' in the news last week? Fair enough......

  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
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  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,192

    DavidL said:

    This piece by Hopi Sen is well worth a read: http://hopisen.com/2013/thousands-will-certainly-die/#comment-21824

    He really is the intelligent man's lefty who does his homework. He demonstrates 2 things. Firstly, that the trends on excess winter deaths are on a downward trend and unrelated to energy prices per se. Secondly, that the policies espoused by a certain Ed Miliband amongst others whilst in office improving our existing housing stock and improving energy efficiency really worked. There is a strong correlation between the age of your house (note not size or value but age) and excess winter deaths. Good insulation works.

    All of this demonstrates to me that Ed (a) is not totally useless but (b) is shameless in promoting a policy that threatens the funding for such programs. Mr Sen laments that the successes of the policies that Ed promoted in office are not getting a look in. It is indeed a shame.

    Isn't the funding threatened by the Tories wanting to get rid of the green levies they used to be so keen on?

    No I think the plan is to fund these policies out of general taxation so they are funded by people like us on decent earnings rather than by the poor. At least I certainly hope so. The evidence that these policies actually do good (whatever one thinks of the temperature of the planet) is quite compelling.
  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    If @foxinsoxuk is about - be interesting to hear his views on this NAO report http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/nhs/10416312/Elderly-AandE-crisis-caused-by-doctors-refusal-to-do-weekends.html

    "One of the causes of unnecessary admissions is the NHS’s failure to provide a consistent seven-day service, the report said. Care worsens significantly at weekends because consultants are not present to ensure a proper assessment of patients’ needs, the NAO said, suggesting that their contracts should be rewritten.

    Reduced access to senior doctors at weekends leads to “unnecessary admissions and sub-optimal care,” the auditors concluded. Patients are more likely to die after weekend admissions than during the working week, the NAO said. The “variable” quality of GP care is also linked to higher A&E attendance, as is Britain’s “growing frail, elderly population”, the report found.

    A government target for all A&E cases to be dealt with in four hours is also driving up admissions rates, as staff are resorting to admitting patients shortly before they reach the deadline, instead of administering appropriate treatment. A&E admissions are rising, putting the entire NHS under increasing pressure, the report said. Figures show there were 5.3 million emergency hospital admissions in 2012-13, an increase of 12 per cent in just five years. In the past 15 years, the number of people admitted for short stays has more than doubled.

    The NHS is now spending more than £12 billion a year – almost a tenth of its budget – on emergency services.
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