I think the mural episode was/is the strongest evidence that Corbyn is anti-Semitic. No-one with an ounce of political perspective could not look at that and not realise it was depicting stereotypical Jews. I don't think even Mr 2Es is that stupid!
Yes, quite so. Another pretty unambiguous indicator was the comment about not understanding English irony.
Personally I think the 'for the many not the few' slogan is intrinsically sinister: it doesn't even pay lip service governing for the whole nation, but attempts to divide 'the people' from 'the few'. It's a classic trick of demagogues, and of course one which historically has been very much linked with anti-semitism.
I always enjoy this line, usually from the types of people who think New Labour was the good Labour whereas current Labour is the bad Labour...
That line was taken from the reworked clause 4 which was done under the leadership of one A. Blair.
I think the correct line is it was okay because that was Blair but OMG Corbyn said it, definitely anti semitic now.
I know that of course. I don't think that make the slogan any more acceptable, especially since no-one in their right mind could argue that Blair was waging war on 'the few'. In addition in the Blair case the full quote is more less sinister and divisive:
The Labour Party is a democratic socialist party. It believes that by the strength of our common endeavour, we achieve more than we achieve alone so as to create for each of us the means to realise our true potential and for all of us a community in which power, wealth and opportunity are in the hands of the many not the few, where the rights we enjoy reflect the duties we owe, and where we live together, freely, in a spirit of solidarity, tolerance and respect.
Yeah who could accuse Blair of waging war...
So whether something is racist or not depends on how much you disagree with the person, interesting take...
Whether or not I believe something was meant as racist does indeed depend on the past track record of the person who said it. I disagree with most of what Tony Blair said. I'd never call him a racist.
Tony Blair is responsible for a huge amount of death and destruction among poor brown Arabs, the few as they might be known. Terrible record of past actions, far worse than Corbyn.
So it was racist from Blair but not Corbyn based on their actions.
Seems to be suggesting the EU will agree an extension only if a withdrawal agreement passes the Commons by 29 March. The betting markets seem to be assuming the EU will agree an extension anyway.
If you were going to agree a faffing-only extension it would make more sense to keep quiet about it until the British asked, because: 1) A resolution is better, and you don't want to encourage faffing unless you're clear the alternative is the car crash 2) If it looks like the EU is pushing it then that will feed conspiracy theories (eg see upthread)
I'm still convinced the EU will agree a faffing extension if it comes to it; no deal is just too bad overall for them to say no and get all the blame.
But I think this is another example of the EU getting the sequencing right. If the March 12th vote passes, T May has to come and ask for 2 months extension for the legislation to work through. All agreed.
If it fails, T May has to come and ask for 21 months extension (or whatever) for a full renegotiation and 'consultation' within the UK. If she tries to ask for 2 months she'll be told it has to be far more, and will be totally boxed in.
Very sneaky of the EU getting parliament to vote first. They are operating at such a smarter level than our leaden-footed approach.
If MPs share your perception that the EU will approve an extension for no particular reason, I should think the chances of the agreement being passed on 12 March are close to zero.
On the contrary, the higher the chances of a long Art 50 extension and potentially BINO or EUref2 the higher the chances the ERG will be forced to back May's Deal and it scraped through
How are the ERG going to be enough, given the majority against the deal last time?
Over a 100 ERG linked voted against the Deal and I suspect some Labour MPs in Leave seats would switch to the Deal over extending Article 50 and delaying Brexit too
My 4 cats - (the children insisted) - go out in the garden but we're strict about not letting them out the front because of cars. But they still spend most of their days sleeping where it is most sunny. And, then, when I am not looking, killing mice and kindly depositing them in the living room.
They seem to use no energy at all but the noise they make if I am late with their food is quite something.
When I am working at my desk, they will often come and sit on my lap or as close to the keyboard as possible. The dog will also sit at my feet and, if he thinks this work malarkey is taking too long, will hit my arm with his nose so that I can no longer type. This is a sign to me to take him for a walk.
out the front.. deary me..
What's wrong with not letting them 'out the front' ?
My 4 cats - (the children insisted) - go out in the garden but we're strict about not letting them out the front because of cars. But they still spend most of their days sleeping where it is most sunny. And, then, when I am not looking, killing mice and kindly depositing them in the living room.
They seem to use no energy at all but the noise they make if I am late with their food is quite something.
When I am working at my desk, they will often come and sit on my lap or as close to the keyboard as possible. The dog will also sit at my feet and, if he thinks this work malarkey is taking too long, will hit my arm with his nose so that I can no longer type. This is a sign to me to take him for a walk.
We live on a reasonably busy road, but have quite a large back garden. I'd love to get some new cats, and to explain to them that there's plenty of room out the back, and really no need to go out the front. But cats are notoriously difficult to contain. Really need to find an adult cat with a bit of road sense in need of a home.
We had a series of farm cats (mainly living outside, but with access to the garage and a warm utility room to sleep) in the house we grew up in. We then moved (temporarily) to a farm about three miles away, and moved three cats with us. Two were happy, but the eldest disappeared on the first night. We found her a couple of days later at the old house, and returned her. She kept on disappearing back to the old house overnight, and eventually we left her there, with the agreement of the new owners. She would pop in to see us occasionally at our new place, but we lost her when we moved on again six months later.
As a child, it seemed such a long way for a cat to go - and it seemed she knew the territory well.
My 4 cats - (the children insisted) - go out in the garden but we're strict about not letting them out the front because of cars. But they still spend most of their days sleeping where it is most sunny. And, then, when I am not looking, killing mice and kindly depositing them in the living room.
They seem to use no energy at all but the noise they make if I am late with their food is quite something.
When I am working at my desk, they will often come and sit on my lap or as close to the keyboard as possible. The dog will also sit at my feet and, if he thinks this work malarkey is taking too long, will hit my arm with his nose so that I can no longer type. This is a sign to me to take him for a walk.
We live on a reasonably busy road, but have quite a large back garden. I'd love to get some new cats, and to explain to them that there's plenty of room out the back, and really no need to go out the front. But cats are notoriously difficult to contain. Really need to find an adult cat with a bit of road sense in need of a home.
We had a series of farm cats (mainly living outside, but with access to the garage and a warm utility room to sleep) in the house we grew up in. We then moved (temporarily) to a farm about three miles away, and moved three cats with us. Two were happy, but the eldest disappeared on the first night. We found her a couple of days later at the old house, and returned her. She kept on disappearing back to the old house overnight, and eventually we left her there, with the agreement of the new owners. She would pop in to see us occasionally at our new place, but we lost her when we moved on again six months later.
As a child, it seemed such a long way for a cat to go - and it seemed she knew the territory well.
We kept our cats in the house for ~ 6 weeks when we moved so they realised the new house was 'home'.
My 4 cats - (the children insisted) - go out in the garden but we're strict about not letting them out the front because of cars. But they still spend most of their days sleeping where it is most sunny. And, then, when I am not looking, killing mice and kindly depositing them in the living room.
They seem to use no energy at all but the noise they make if I am late with their food is quite something.
When I am working at my desk, they will often come and sit on my lap or as close to the keyboard as possible. The dog will also sit at my feet and, if he thinks this work malarkey is taking too long, will hit my arm with his nose so that I can no longer type. This is a sign to me to take him for a walk.
My 4 cats - (the children insisted) - go out in the garden but we're strict about not letting them out the front because of cars. But they still spend most of their days sleeping where it is most sunny. And, then, when I am not looking, killing mice and kindly depositing them in the living room.
They seem to use no energy at all but the noise they make if I am late with their food is quite something.
When I am working at my desk, they will often come and sit on my lap or as close to the keyboard as possible. The dog will also sit at my feet and, if he thinks this work malarkey is taking too long, will hit my arm with his nose so that I can no longer type. This is a sign to me to take him for a walk.
out the front.. deary me..
????
My dog knows where he is and isn't allowed to go, and won't go up the steps to the road even on his lead unless I lead the way. Sadly cats are pretty much untrainable. Why anyone would want a cat always mystifies me.
Another thing for the ERG to think about: TMay is duty-bound to remain PM until Brexit is done so if there's a 3-year extension then two years of transition she'll be obliged to stay on until at least 2024.
Seems to be suggesting the EU will agree an extension only if a withdrawal agreement passes the Commons by 29 March. The betting markets seem to be assuming the EU will agree an extension anyway.
Seems a little like the Council and May are playing the same tune: it's deal or crash no-deal.
My 4 cats - (the children insisted) - go out in the garden but we're strict about not letting them out the front because of cars. But they still spend most of their days sleeping where it is most sunny. And, then, when I am not looking, killing mice and kindly depositing them in the living room.
They seem to use no energy at all but the noise they make if I am late with their food is quite something.
When I am working at my desk, they will often come and sit on my lap or as close to the keyboard as possible. The dog will also sit at my feet and, if he thinks this work malarkey is taking too long, will hit my arm with his nose so that I can no longer type. This is a sign to me to take him for a walk.
out the front.. deary me..
????
My dog knows where he is and isn't allowed to go, and won't go up the steps to the road even on his lead unless I lead the way. Sadly cats are pretty much untrainable. Why anyone would want a cat always mystifies me.
My 4 cats - (the children insisted) - go out in the garden but we're strict about not letting them out the front because of cars. But they still spend most of their days sleeping where it is most sunny. And, then, when I am not looking, killing mice and kindly depositing them in the living room.
They seem to use no energy at all but the noise they make if I am late with their food is quite something.
When I am working at my desk, they will often come and sit on my lap or as close to the keyboard as possible. The dog will also sit at my feet and, if he thinks this work malarkey is taking too long, will hit my arm with his nose so that I can no longer type. This is a sign to me to take him for a walk.
out the front.. deary me..
????
My dog knows where he is and isn't allowed to go, and won't go up the steps to the road even on his lead unless I lead the way. Sadly cats are pretty much untrainable. Why anyone would want a cat always mystifies me.
They're more convienient if you're a dual working couple and say both out the house during the day (They're attached to places and can wear being left alone providing they have food/water/litter tray). Also don't need walking as they enjoy a 'right to roam' under the law that dogs don't. In short, they're an easier pet than a dog.
Seems to be suggesting the EU will agree an extension only if a withdrawal agreement passes the Commons by 29 March. The betting markets seem to be assuming the EU will agree an extension anyway.
Seems a little like the Council and May are playing the same tune: it's deal or crash no-deal.
The reverse: It is Deal or indefinite extension and maybe even no Brexit at all
We had a series of farm cats (mainly living outside, but with access to the garage and a warm utility room to sleep) in the house we grew up in. We then moved (temporarily) to a farm about three miles away, and moved three cats with us. Two were happy, but the eldest disappeared on the first night. We found her a couple of days later at the old house, and returned her. She kept on disappearing back to the old house overnight, and eventually we left her there, with the agreement of the new owners. She would pop in to see us occasionally at our new place, but we lost her when we moved on again six months later.
As a child, it seemed such a long way for a cat to go - and it seemed she knew the territory well.
We kept our cats in the house for ~ 6 weeks when we moved so they realised the new house was 'home'.
You really couldn't keep these cats inside; they were half feral - real farm cats.
One gave birth on top of insulation in the cavity wall high up in the garage. My dad was worried the kittens would fall, so he got the mother into a transport cage and climbed a ladder to get the kittens down. The mother was frantic, and when released she attacked him - despite the kittens having been put in a nice, soft basket beside the cage.
Another anecdote: we had a Cocker Spaniel bitch, and she never had any puppies of her own. She hated other cats in the garden, and would chase them out, but loved 'our' cats. When one had a litter of kittens, the mother would lift one onto the dog's back, and the dog would trot around the garden. When she returned, the mother would take that kitten off and place another on, and she would go around the garden again. I really wish we'd been able to video that.
The cats and dog would share food, and when the dog grew very elderly and ill, the cats would nustle up to sleep with her. I swear they pined for her when she died.
And then as you say, he goes on to compare the situation to another situation with another work of art.
But that "Why?" remains. He believes that freedom of expression includes the right to be antisemitic.
Tbh if Corbyn can transmit all that in three letters and you can pick it up that's pretty impressive, I wondered if the 3 letters indicated a critique of the impressionist painters of the past and dismay at the councils defence of them, or that the three letters where Corbyns way of indicating the future left wing takeover of the Labour Party was going to happen...
The sheeple who don't see the symbolism and conspiracy like me and you but dismiss it might just think the why was actually part of the rest of the message and it was just a why? They got rid of this one as well but we know better right.
My 4 cats - (the children insisted) - go out in the garden but we're strict about not letting them out the front because of cars. But they still spend most of their days sleeping where it is most sunny. And, then, when I am not looking, killing mice and kindly depositing them in the living room.
They seem to use no energy at all but the noise they make if I am late with their food is quite something.
When I am working at my desk, they will often come and sit on my lap or as close to the keyboard as possible. The dog will also sit at my feet and, if he thinks this work malarkey is taking too long, will hit my arm with his nose so that I can no longer type. This is a sign to me to take him for a walk.
out the front.. deary me..
????
My dog knows where he is and isn't allowed to go, and won't go up the steps to the road even on his lead unless I lead the way. Sadly cats are pretty much untrainable. Why anyone would want a cat always mystifies me.
They're more convienient if you're a dual working couple and say both out the house during the day (They're attached to places and can wear being left alone providing they have food/water/litter tray). Also don't need walking as they enjoy a 'right to roam' under the law that dogs don't. In short, they're an easier pet than a dog.
Fine, but what's the point? They probably have several houses in the street feeding them and all they do is lie about scratching their fleas.
We had a series of farm cats (mainly living outside, but with access to the garage and a warm utility room to sleep) in the house we grew up in. We then moved (temporarily) to a farm about three miles away, and moved three cats with us. Two were happy, but the eldest disappeared on the first night. We found her a couple of days later at the old house, and returned her. She kept on disappearing back to the old house overnight, and eventually we left her there, with the agreement of the new owners. She would pop in to see us occasionally at our new place, but we lost her when we moved on again six months later.
As a child, it seemed such a long way for a cat to go - and it seemed she knew the territory well.
We kept our cats in the house for ~ 6 weeks when we moved so they realised the new house was 'home'.
You really couldn't keep these cats inside; they were half feral - real farm cats.
One gave birth on top of insulation in the cavity wall high up in the garage. My dad was worried the kittens would fall, so he got the mother into a transport cage and climbed a ladder to get the kittens down. The mother was frantic, and when released she attacked him - despite the kittens having been put in a nice, soft basket beside the cage.
Another anecdote: we had a Cocker Spaniel bitch, and she never had any puppies of her own. She hated other cats in the garden, and would chase them out, but loved 'our' cats. When one had a litter of kittens, the mother would lift one onto the dog's back, and the dog would trot around the garden. When she returned, the mother would take that kitten off and place another on, and she would go around the garden again. I really wish we'd been able to video that.
The cats and dog would share food, and when the dog grew very elderly and ill, the cats would nustle up to sleep with her. I swear they pined for her when she died.
Our dog - which is part sheepdog - thinks of the cats as his. He tries to herd them. When one was lost he pined and was very excited when he was found.
My 4 cats - (the children insisted) - go out in the garden but we're strict about not letting them out the front because of cars. But they still spend most of their days sleeping where it is most sunny. And, then, when I am not looking, killing mice and kindly depositing them in the living room.
They seem to use no energy at all but the noise they make if I am late with their food is quite something.
When I am working at my desk, they will often come and sit on my lap or as close to the keyboard as possible. The dog will also sit at my feet and, if he thinks this work malarkey is taking too long, will hit my arm with his nose so that I can no longer type. This is a sign to me to take him for a walk.
out the front.. deary me..
????
My dog knows where he is and isn't allowed to go, and won't go up the steps to the road even on his lead unless I lead the way. Sadly cats are pretty much untrainable. Why anyone would want a cat always mystifies me.
They're more convienient if you're a dual working couple and say both out the house during the day (They're attached to places and can wear being left alone providing they have food/water/litter tray). Also don't need walking as they enjoy a 'right to roam' under the law that dogs don't. In short, they're an easier pet than a dog.
Fine, but what's the point? They probably have several houses in the street feeding them and all they do is lie about scratching their fleas.
Brexit was always going to be very difficult for Jeremy Corbyn. He hasn't helped himself. He still isn't helping himself.
The tin-eared response to the defections isn't going to improve his ratings either. Labelling.
In yesterday's Times Dominic Lawson reports something said by the Chairman of the Jewish Leadership Council, who met Corbyn at the meeting arranged last year to try and repair relations. He was told by someone close to the leadership that "they were convinced the perception of anti-semitism would play well for them electorally, that the Jews were part of the 'few' and, as oppressors, deserved no protection". The Chairman thought that crazy but, it was reported "as this awful saga drags on and on, maybe that person was right after all."
Who knows. But there does certainly seem to be a strain of Far Left thinking which views Jews as rich, white, capitalist oppressors and therefore not a group against anyone can, a fortiori, be racist. If that is how you view the world, easy to see how anti-semitism develops unchecked and very hard to see how you can stop it as it would involve more than not saying horrible things to or about Jews but changing your whole political views.
The other part of the conspiracy being all these people who I assume must then pretend to be against Corbyn helping spread the message blaming Corbyn for anti semitism because they want the left to succeed. Here was me thinking the likes of the Mail and the Sun were enemies...
Sticking with the conspiracy theory posited by Cyclefree earlier then presumably he mentioned another piece of graffiti and commented about that also getting washed away / destroyed as part of some long term plot where his allies in the RW media would bring this to wider attention accusing him of AS to win Corbyn votes.
It's not my conspiracy theory. I leave belief in conspiracy theories to idiots on the Far Left and Far Right.
You mentioned the conspiracy and then said who knows, classic conspiracy theorist response to a conspiracy theory, in fairness to you they then usually go further than that.
We are now at the stage where it is impossible to tell if this is an equitable and practical proposal or flinging your shit at the wall level madness.
It reflects a complete lack of trust. The EU was burnt by conceding the all UK customs union, only for Theresa May to whip her MPs to vote against the concession she had just extracted. Normally that would lead to a clear "piss off" to any further demands, but the EU is boxed in too.
Karren Brady has resigned as chair of Sir Philip Green’s retail empire, a fortnight after saying she had a “sense of duty” towards the tycoon’s employees.
Brady had previously refused to resign from Taveta Investments after accusations of inappropriate behaviour against Green.
Green, who is accused of sexual harrassment and racial abuse of staff, has denied any unlawful behaviour towards employees.
And then as you say, he goes on to compare the situation to another situation with another work of art.
But that "Why?" remains. He believes that freedom of expression includes the right to be antisemitic.
Tbh if Corbyn can transmit all that in three letters and you can pick it up that's pretty impressive, I wondered if the 3 letters indicated a critique of the impressionist painters of the past and dismay at the councils defence of them, or that the three letters where Corbyns way of indicating the future left wing takeover of the Labour Party was going to happen...
The sheeple who don't see the symbolism and conspiracy like me and you but dismiss it might just think the why was actually part of the rest of the message and it was just a why? They got rid of this one as well but we know better right.
Dick answer, I'm afraid - I gave you all the context. He was querying why someone should take down an anti-semitic mural. But knock yourself out not understanding this.
I mean, he apologised for it (or at least his office did) afterwards so it can't have been as unremarkable as you make out.
And Cezanne, for example, had a specific plasticity through which he defined the world on canvas and which process and language, of course, ended up with Picasso and Braque. So no, I don't think it was a critique of impressionist painters ("of the past" being tautological).
My 4 cats - (the children insisted) - go out in the garden but we're strict about not letting them out the front because of cars. But they still spend most of their days sleeping where it is most sunny. And, then, when I am not looking, killing mice and kindly depositing them in the living room.
They seem to use no energy at all but the noise they make if I am late with their food is quite something.
When I am working at my desk, they will often come and sit on my lap or as close to the keyboard as possible. The dog will also sit at my feet and, if he thinks this work malarkey is taking too long, will hit my arm with his nose so that I can no longer type. This is a sign to me to take him for a walk.
out the front.. deary me..
????
My dog knows where he is and isn't allowed to go, and won't go up the steps to the road even on his lead unless I lead the way. Sadly cats are pretty much untrainable. Why anyone would want a cat always mystifies me.
They're more convienient if you're a dual working couple and say both out the house during the day (They're attached to places and can wear being left alone providing they have food/water/litter tray). Also don't need walking as they enjoy a 'right to roam' under the law that dogs don't. In short, they're an easier pet than a dog.
Fine, but what's the point? They probably have several houses in the street feeding them and all they do is lie about scratching their fleas.
They are affectionate, good company, and amusing. And, very useful to have if your garden is infested with mice (mine is).
We had a series of farm cats (mainly living outside, but with access to the garage and a warm utility room to sleep) in the house we grew up in. We then moved (temporarily) to a farm about three miles away, and moved three cats with us. Two were happy, but the eldest disappeared on the first night. We found her a couple of days later at the old house, and returned her. She kept on disappearing back to the old house overnight, and eventually we left her there, with the agreement of the new owners. She would pop in to see us occasionally at our new place, but we lost her when we moved on again six months later.
As a child, it seemed such a long way for a cat to go - and it seemed she knew the territory well.
We kept our cats in the house for ~ 6 weeks when we moved so they realised the new house was 'home'.
You really couldn't keep these cats inside; they were half feral - real farm cats.
One gave birth on top of insulation in the cavity wall high up in the garage. My dad was worried the kittens would fall, so he got the mother into a transport cage and climbed a ladder to get the kittens down. The mother was frantic, and when released she attacked him - despite the kittens having been put in a nice, soft basket beside the cage.
Another anecdote: we had a Cocker Spaniel bitch, and she never had any puppies of her own. She hated other cats in the garden, and would chase them out, but loved 'our' cats. When one had a litter of kittens, the mother would lift one onto the dog's back, and the dog would trot around the garden. When she returned, the mother would take that kitten off and place another on, and she would go around the garden again. I really wish we'd been able to video that.
The cats and dog would share food, and when the dog grew very elderly and ill, the cats would nustle up to sleep with her. I swear they pined for her when she died.
Our dog - which is part sheepdog - thinks of the cats as his. He tries to herd them. When one was lost he pined and was very excited when he was found.
At one time, we had a sheepdog and two cats, and the dog would trot around the garden, carrying a cat in his mouth, by the back of her neck.
My 4 cats - (the children insisted) - go out in the garden but we're strict about not letting them out the front because of cars. But they still spend most of their days sleeping where it is most sunny. And, then, when I am not looking, killing mice and kindly depositing them in the living room.
They seem to use no energy at all but the noise they make if I am late with their food is quite something.
When I am working at my desk, they will often come and sit on my lap or as close to the keyboard as possible. The dog will also sit at my feet and, if he thinks this work malarkey is taking too long, will hit my arm with his nose so that I can no longer type. This is a sign to me to take him for a walk.
out the front.. deary me..
????
My dog knows where he is and isn't allowed to go, and won't go up the steps to the road even on his lead unless I lead the way. Sadly cats are pretty much untrainable. Why anyone would want a cat always mystifies me.
They're more convienient if you're a dual working couple and say both out the house during the day (They're attached to places and can wear being left alone providing they have food/water/litter tray). Also don't need walking as they enjoy a 'right to roam' under the law that dogs don't. In short, they're an easier pet than a dog.
Fine, but what's the point? They probably have several houses in the street feeding them and all they do is lie about scratching their fleas.
They are affectionate, good company, and amusing. And, very useful to have if your garden is infested with mice (mine is).
Our 'west' neighbour keeps chickens, so we guess that our youngest (And the most veracious hunter) of the three brings rodents back from theirs. Our cats don't go into our east neighbours garden as they've a dog; and to the north we have a field - another source of voles and fieldmice.. They don't have fleas and we made a point of asking our neighbours not to feed them when we moved in.
My guess is that part of this is due to the loss of Carwyn Jones, who was a polished, smooth and reassuring media performer for Labour.
He didn't do very much to revive Wales, of course.
But, Carwyn was a greatly comforting presence, like a childhood teddy bear that still sits on your bed in adulthood.
Mark Drakeford is a significantly poorer FM than his predecessors. Labour are gradually getting into trouble in the Welsh citadels.
I have no reason to dislike Mark Drakeford, but he does have the air of a county councillor who's chuffed to get a cabinet portfolio dealing with outdoor recreation. CJ played the part of First Minister a bit more convincingly, I think.
I can see Drakeford failing to cut through in the same way Vince Cable apparently does - inoffensive enough but people aren't sure what he's for. Arguably not great from someone who has the 'top' job (as opposed to leader of the fourth/fifth party), but he's probably being eclipsed and/or tainted by UK politics right now.
Off-topic, the cat who's my avatar here died on Saturday after being hit by a car. he was a very special, lovable and characterful animal. I'll probably be a bit quiet on here for a day or so.
Oh no David, that's terrible news
Thanks for your comments, and kind thoughts. A bit of an indulgence but here he is (I've had to copy a tweet as I don't think you can post pictures directly):
So sorry to hear that very sad news. I can empathise - having lost several cats in this way back in the 70s and 80s. I still regularly think of one cat which died in March 1972 falling victim to a neighbour's car. He was half human and a mere 22 months old. I still retain the chord of an old dressing gown which he enjoyed playing with. Last June - for the first time in adult life - I acquired two ginger boy kittens- now 10 months old. Still wary about letting them roam outdoors - but have concluded it would be cruel to do otherwise.
Thanks, and thanks to everyone for their kind comments.
Yes, Frankie (Franklin on Sundays and other special occasions), was a very special animal. Half cat, half dog and a bit human. You always need an overround.
He would happily trot along side me if I went for a walk down the back lane, he liked play-fighting my hand but with claws in and knew where the line was; he was affectionate, clever, inquisitive and taken much too soon. He was probably about nine - we got him and his brother (or so we were told) from a rescue centre and they said he was three, though we think he might have been a bit younger - and it's some consolation to know that we gave him a good life and a lot of love, which he returned.
You do hold on to physical memories of them too, don't you? I'm sure we will too. It is hard to let them go outside when you know the dangers but as you say, it's natural to them and I'm sure it's right for them to feel grass beneath their feet (as per the pic).
And then as you say, he goes on to compare the situation to another situation with another work of art.
But that "Why?" remains. He believes that freedom of expression includes the right to be antisemitic.
Tbh if Corbyn can transmit all that in three letters and you can pick it up that's pretty impressive, I wondered if the 3 letters indicated a critique of the impressionist painters of the past and dismay at the councils defence of them, or that the three letters where Corbyns way of indicating the future left wing takeover of the Labour Party was going to happen...
The sheeple who don't see the symbolism and conspiracy like me and you but dismiss it might just think the why was actually part of the rest of the message and it was just a why? They got rid of this one as well but we know better right.
Dick answer, I'm afraid - I gave you all the context. He was querying why someone should take down an anti-semitic mural. But knock yourself out not understanding this.
I mean, he apologised for it (or at least his office did) afterwards so it can't have been as unremarkable as you make out.
And Cezanne, for example, had a specific plasticity through which he defined the world on canvas and which process and language, of course, ended up with Picasso and Braque. So no, I don't think it was a critique of impressionist painters ("of the past" being tautological).
Tbh you lost me once you went past Picasso, I couldn't identify him as an impressionist, nor do I really know anything about the impressionists, I have guesses that's about it.
The point is you don't know what the why meant and translating the three letters into a whole message is very ambitious especially considering you are not exactly an unbiased source.
"But what I have sensed in all of my conversations with my fellow leaders both here in Sharm el-Sheikh and in recent days is a real determination to find a way through which allows the UK to leave the EU in a smooth and orderly way with a deal."
The other part of the conspiracy being all these people who I assume must then pretend to be against Corbyn helping spread the message blaming Corbyn for anti semitism because they want the left to succeed. Here was me thinking the likes of the Mail and the Sun were enemies...
Sticking with the conspiracy theory posited by Cyclefree earlier then presumably he mentioned another piece of graffiti and commented about that also getting washed away / destroyed as part of some long term plot where his allies in the RW media would bring this to wider attention accusing him of AS to win Corbyn votes.
It's not my conspiracy theory. I leave belief in conspiracy theories to idiots on the Far Left and Far Right.
You mentioned the conspiracy and then said who knows, classic conspiracy theorist response to a conspiracy theory, in fairness to you they then usually go further than that.
No - I reported what was written in an article, quoting directly from it. I did not use the word "conspiracy".
I have spelt out very clearly the strain in Far Left thinking which makes anti-semitism possible.
The actions of the Labour leadership show that they are either unwilling or incapable of addressing the anti-semitism that has infested their party. Whichever it is, it does not reflect well on them. Or, frankly, on those who seek to justify or excuse their failure.
My guess is that part of this is due to the loss of Carwyn Jones, who was a polished, smooth and reassuring media performer for Labour.
He didn't do very much to revive Wales, of course.
But, Carwyn was a greatly comforting presence, like a childhood teddy bear that still sits on your bed in adulthood.
Mark Drakeford is a significantly poorer FM than his predecessors. Labour are gradually getting into trouble in the Welsh citadels.
I have no reason to dislike Mark Drakeford, but he does have the air of a county councillor who's chuffed to get a cabinet portfolio dealing with outdoor recreation. CJ played the part of First Minister a bit more convincingly, I think.
I can see Drakeford failing to cut through in the same way Vince Cable apparently does - inoffensive enough but people aren't sure what he's for. Arguably not great from someone who has the 'top' job (as opposed to leader of the fourth/fifth party), but he's probably being eclipsed and/or tainted by UK politics right now.
Drakeford is useless and joins labour Scottish leader with Corbyn, all hard left
He is the last person we need in Wales and as has been said, he is nowhere near his predecessor in PR or ability
And then as you say, he goes on to compare the situation to another situation with another work of art.
But that "Why?" remains. He believes that freedom of expression includes the right to be antisemitic.
Tbh if Corbyn can transmit all that in three letters and you can pick it up that's pretty impressive, I wondered if the 3 letters indicated a critique of the impressionist painters of the past and dismay at the councils defence of them, or that the three letters where Corbyns way of indicating the future left wing takeover of the Labour Party was going to happen...
The sheeple who don't see the symbolism and conspiracy like me and you but dismiss it might just think the why was actually part of the rest of the message and it was just a why? They got rid of this one as well but we know better right.
Dick answer, I'm afraid - I gave you all the context. He was querying why someone should take down an anti-semitic mural. But knock yourself out not understanding this.
I mean, he apologised for it (or at least his office did) afterwards so it can't have been as unremarkable as you make out.
And Cezanne, for example, had a specific plasticity through which he defined the world on canvas and which process and language, of course, ended up with Picasso and Braque. So no, I don't think it was a critique of impressionist painters ("of the past" being tautological).
Tbh you lost me once you went past Picasso, I couldn't identify him as an impressionist, nor do I really know anything about the impressionists, I have guesses that's about it.
The point is you don't know what the why meant and translating the three letters into a whole message is very ambitious especially considering you are not exactly an unbiased source.
There are few contributors on this site who are so blindly loyal to a particular politician as you. I am not sure whether it makes you a hero or an idiot, or perhaps both. It does however, prove the maxim that you can fool some of the people all of the time.
We are now at the stage where it is impossible to tell if this is an equitable and practical proposal or flinging your shit at the wall level madness.
It reflects a complete lack of trust. The EU was burnt by conceding the all UK customs union, only for Theresa May to whip her MPs to vote against the concession she had just extracted. Normally that would lead to a clear "piss off" to any further demands, but the EU is boxed in too.
That's a lie.
The EU wanted the backstop, May conceded on an all UK one and whipped her MPs to support it, seeing a lot of resignations and a record defeat as a result.
May didn't whip against just after the backstop was agreed, she did so many months later after the biggest Parliamentary defeat ever
Leavers need to stop going on the radio and humiliating themselves .
Latest pearl of wisdom from a Leaver. He voted out because Eastern European countries have different values . He saw a man throw a drink over a woman who was his wife because she didn’t obey him !
And this cemented his view over cultural differences . And of course in the UK all men are wonderful to their wives .
My guess is that part of this is due to the loss of Carwyn Jones, who was a polished, smooth and reassuring media performer for Labour.
He didn't do very much to revive Wales, of course.
But, Carwyn was a greatly comforting presence, like a childhood teddy bear that still sits on your bed in adulthood.
Mark Drakeford is a significantly poorer FM than his predecessors. Labour are gradually getting into trouble in the Welsh citadels.
I have no reason to dislike Mark Drakeford, but he does have the air of a county councillor who's chuffed to get a cabinet portfolio dealing with outdoor recreation. CJ played the part of First Minister a bit more convincingly, I think.
I can see Drakeford failing to cut through in the same way Vince Cable apparently does - inoffensive enough but people aren't sure what he's for. Arguably not great from someone who has the 'top' job (as opposed to leader of the fourth/fifth party), but he's probably being eclipsed and/or tainted by UK politics right now.
I hate to be personal, but ..
Mark Drakeford needs a competent barber, an orthodontist, a skilled image consultant, voice coaching, media training and a decent tailor.
He looks like an unpolished version of Albert Steptoe with his misfitting shirts, jackets and trousers.
I hate to raise the matter in the rarefied and polite society of pb cat-lovers, but ...
Maggie had to take the flak for her God-awful son. It is difficult to understand why Drakeford believes he can help Wales, when he failed so disastrously with the job of rearing his son, now doing 9 years for rape and paedophile grooming.
And then as you say, he goes on to compare the situation to another situation with another work of art.
But that "Why?" remains. He believes that freedom of expression includes the right to be antisemitic.
Tbh if Corbyn can transmit all that in three letters and you can pick it up that's pretty impressive, I wondered if the 3 letters indicated a critique of the impressionist painters of the past and dismay at the councils defence of them, or that the three letters where Corbyns way of indicating the future left wing takeover of the Labour Party was going to happen...
The sheeple who don't see the symbolism and conspiracy like me and you but dismiss it might just think the why was actually part of the rest of the message and it was just a why? They got rid of this one as well but we know better right.
Dick answer, I'm afraid - I gave you all the context. He was querying why someone should take down an anti-semitic mural. But knock yourself out not understanding this.
I mean, he apologised for it (or at least his office did) afterwards so it can't have been as unremarkable as you make out.
And Cezanne, for example, had a specific plasticity through which he defined the world on canvas and which process and language, of course, ended up with Picasso and Braque. So no, I don't think it was a critique of impressionist painters ("of the past" being tautological).
Tbh you lost me once you went past Picasso, I couldn't identify him as an impressionist, nor do I really know anything about the impressionists, I have guesses that's about it.
The point is you don't know what the why meant and translating the three letters into a whole message is very ambitious especially considering you are not exactly an unbiased source.
I know exactly what the why meant. The antisemite artist said he had to take down his antisemitic mural and Corbyn asked "Why?".
Yes, it's an open act of disloyalty. He doesn't even attempt to pretend that he trusts Jennie Formby on this, or that he has permission from her or Corbyn to run a parallel monitoring operation.
My guess is that part of this is due to the loss of Carwyn Jones, who was a polished, smooth and reassuring media performer for Labour.
He didn't do very much to revive Wales, of course.
But, Carwyn was a greatly comforting presence, like a childhood teddy bear that still sits on your bed in adulthood.
Mark Drakeford is a significantly poorer FM than his predecessors. Labour are gradually getting into trouble in the Welsh citadels.
I have no reason to dislike Mark Drakeford, but he does have the air of a county councillor who's chuffed to get a cabinet portfolio dealing with outdoor recreation. CJ played the part of First Minister a bit more convincingly, I think.
I can see Drakeford failing to cut through in the same way Vince Cable apparently does - inoffensive enough but people aren't sure what he's for. Arguably not great from someone who has the 'top' job (as opposed to leader of the fourth/fifth party), but he's probably being eclipsed and/or tainted by UK politics right now.
I hate to be personal, but ..
Mark Drakeford needs a competent barber, an orthodontist, a skilled image consultant, voice coaching, media training and a decent tailor.
He looks like an unpolished version of Albert Steptoe with his misfitting shirts, jackets and trousers.
I hate to raise the matter in the rarefied and polite society of pb cat-lovers, but ...
Maggie had to take the flak for her God-awful son. It is difficult to understand why Drakeford believes he can help Wales, when he failed so disastrously with the job of rearing his son, now doing 9 years for rape and paedophile grooming.
Are fathers responsible for the crimes of their children?
Yes, it's an open act of disloyalty. He doesn't even attempt to pretend that he trusts Jennie Formby on this, or that he has permission from her or Corbyn to run a parallel monitoring operation.
Corbyn and his morons should be pretty worried. I don't like Watson, but I think he could be the type of person you wouldn't want as an enemy
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He didn't do very much to revive Wales, of course.
But, Carwyn was a greatly comforting presence, like a childhood teddy bear that still sits on your bed in adulthood.
Mark Drakeford is a significantly poorer FM than his predecessors. Labour are gradually getting into trouble in the Welsh citadels.
So it was racist from Blair but not Corbyn based on their actions.
As a child, it seemed such a long way for a cat to go - and it seemed she knew the territory well.
https://twitter.com/flaviblePolitic/status/1099970939457032193?s=20
Seems a little like the Council and May are playing the same tune: it's deal or crash no-deal.
In short, they're an easier pet than a dog.
You really couldn't keep these cats inside; they were half feral - real farm cats.
One gave birth on top of insulation in the cavity wall high up in the garage. My dad was worried the kittens would fall, so he got the mother into a transport cage and climbed a ladder to get the kittens down. The mother was frantic, and when released she attacked him - despite the kittens having been put in a nice, soft basket beside the cage.
Another anecdote: we had a Cocker Spaniel bitch, and she never had any puppies of her own. She hated other cats in the garden, and would chase them out, but loved 'our' cats. When one had a litter of kittens, the mother would lift one onto the dog's back, and the dog would trot around the garden. When she returned, the mother would take that kitten off and place another on, and she would go around the garden again. I really wish we'd been able to video that.
The cats and dog would share food, and when the dog grew very elderly and ill, the cats would nustle up to sleep with her. I swear they pined for her when she died.
The sheeple who don't see the symbolism and conspiracy like me and you but dismiss it might just think the why was actually part of the rest of the message and it was just a why? They got rid of this one as well but we know better right.
One gave birth on top of insulation in the cavity wall high up in the garage. My dad was worried the kittens would fall, so he got the mother into a transport cage and climbed a ladder to get the kittens down. The mother was frantic, and when released she attacked him - despite the kittens having been put in a nice, soft basket beside the cage.
Another anecdote: we had a Cocker Spaniel bitch, and she never had any puppies of her own. She hated other cats in the garden, and would chase them out, but loved 'our' cats. When one had a litter of kittens, the mother would lift one onto the dog's back, and the dog would trot around the garden. When she returned, the mother would take that kitten off and place another on, and she would go around the garden again. I really wish we'd been able to video that.
The cats and dog would share food, and when the dog grew very elderly and ill, the cats would nustle up to sleep with her. I swear they pined for her when she died.
Our dog - which is part sheepdog - thinks of the cats as his. He tries to herd them. When one was lost he pined and was very excited when he was found.
Brady had previously refused to resign from Taveta Investments after accusations of inappropriate behaviour against Green.
Green, who is accused of sexual harrassment and racial abuse of staff, has denied any unlawful behaviour towards employees.
I mean, he apologised for it (or at least his office did) afterwards so it can't have been as unremarkable as you make out.
And Cezanne, for example, had a specific plasticity through which he defined the world on canvas and which process and language, of course, ended up with Picasso and Braque. So no, I don't think it was a critique of impressionist painters ("of the past" being tautological).
At one time, we had a sheepdog and two cats, and the dog would trot around the garden, carrying a cat in his mouth, by the back of her neck.
They don't have fleas and we made a point of asking our neighbours not to feed them when we moved in.
I can see Drakeford failing to cut through in the same way Vince Cable apparently does - inoffensive enough but people aren't sure what he's for. Arguably not great from someone who has the 'top' job (as opposed to leader of the fourth/fifth party), but he's probably being eclipsed and/or tainted by UK politics right now.
Yes, Frankie (Franklin on Sundays and other special occasions), was a very special animal. Half cat, half dog and a bit human. You always need an overround.
He would happily trot along side me if I went for a walk down the back lane, he liked play-fighting my hand but with claws in and knew where the line was; he was affectionate, clever, inquisitive and taken much too soon. He was probably about nine - we got him and his brother (or so we were told) from a rescue centre and they said he was three, though we think he might have been a bit younger - and it's some consolation to know that we gave him a good life and a lot of love, which he returned.
You do hold on to physical memories of them too, don't you? I'm sure we will too. It is hard to let them go outside when you know the dangers but as you say, it's natural to them and I'm sure it's right for them to feel grass beneath their feet (as per the pic).
https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/press-statement-from-the-prime-minister-in-sharm-el-sheikh-25-february-2019?utm_source=44185034-7da0-4858-9eb6-9a73794ccdf9&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=govuk-notifications&utm_content=immediate
The point is you don't know what the why meant and translating the three letters into a whole message is very ambitious especially considering you are not exactly an unbiased source.
Brexit postponed to 2022 then...
He is the last person we need in Wales and as has been said, he is nowhere near his predecessor in PR or ability
We need to see the end of labour in Wales
The EU wanted the backstop, May conceded on an all UK one and whipped her MPs to support it, seeing a lot of resignations and a record defeat as a result.
May didn't whip against just after the backstop was agreed, she did so many months later after the biggest Parliamentary defeat ever
Latest pearl of wisdom from a Leaver. He voted out because Eastern European countries have different values . He saw a man throw a drink over a woman who was his wife because she didn’t obey him !
And this cemented his view over cultural differences . And of course in the UK all men are wonderful to their wives .
Mark Drakeford needs a competent barber, an orthodontist, a skilled image consultant, voice coaching, media training and a decent tailor.
He looks like an unpolished version of Albert Steptoe with his misfitting shirts, jackets and trousers.
I hate to raise the matter in the rarefied and polite society of pb cat-lovers, but ...
Maggie had to take the flak for her God-awful son. It is difficult to understand why Drakeford believes he can help Wales, when he failed so disastrously with the job of rearing his son, now doing 9 years for rape and paedophile grooming.