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    Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,050
    Good evening, everyone.

    F1: Force India team principal (who remains pretty anonymous) Bob Fernley reckons the new Strategy Group [to do with changing the rules] could be illegal:
    http://www.espn.co.uk/fia/motorsport/story/130781.html

    On the face of it he certainly seems to have a moral argument. Only six (of 11, currently) F1 teams would have representation, with five permanent seats and the sixth being the highest non-quintet team in the Constructors (Lotus, at present).

    He asserts this is to pave the way for customer teams, which sound like a bloody awful idea.
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    malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 42,260
    Neil said:

    Does Tom Harris think he is funny?

    He is a useless Labour Donkey , soon to be job hunting.
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    malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 42,260

    Neil said:

    Does Tom Harris think he is funny?

    "Ha! Ha!" or "Peculiar"?
    definitely the latter, I doubt even his mother could think the former.
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    CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 59,876
    malcolmg said:

    Interesting.

    Norman Smith tweets: Scottish Govt may send out a "Prospectus for Independence" to Scottish voters

    Will that count against the 'spend' for the referendum?

    Will 'Better Together' get to send out a similar document?

    They send out packs of lies on a daily basis , we don't need any more from those clowns. Perfectly acceptable for the elected government to give the Sottish people information on the referendum. Better Together can use their donations from foreigners to pay for their garbage.
    Then presumably you would have no objection to the elected government in Westminster doing the same?

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    malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 42,260
    fitalass said:

    This tactic doesn't surprise me, its an attempt by the SNP to try and get their chosen edited 'highlights' of their White Paper directly to Scottish voters bypassing the MSM. I have no problem with that as long as its a direct mail drop clearly labelled and funded by the SNP or the Yes Campaign. What concerns me is Norman Smith suggesting that the Scottish Government many send out a 'Prospectus for Independence', that really would be a misuse of the SNP's position in Government. This could yet be another sign of the recent fracturing of the Yes campaign in different directions.

    Interesting.

    Norman Smith tweets: Scottish Govt may send out a "Prospectus for Independence" to Scottish voters

    Will that count against the 'spend' for the referendum?

    Will 'Better Together' get to send out a similar document?

    Bollocks the Tories are spending countless millions bombarding us with papers that are blatant half truths and lies. No are using millions from foreign donations to do the same and you the brass neck to say the elected government of Scotland cannot send out information regarding the referendum, what planet do you live on.
    As for Fracturing of Yes , you could not make it up , dream on.
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    malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 42,260
    Next said:

    tim said:

    Buy two thirds of Royal Mail, get the other third free.

    "The Government allowed its financial advisers to "defraud the taxpayer" of between £750m and £1bn over the sale of Royal Mail, the chair of the Business, Innovation and Skills Committee, Adrian Bailey, has said."

    http://www.politicshome.com/uk/story/37951/

    I'll repost my own comment from earlier:

    The Royal Mail share price has received criticism, but compare them with Google:-

    Google went to IPO on Aug 19, 2004 at $85 per share.

    By Sep 1st 2004, that share price was $130.

    Today Google shares are at around $1000.

    So, was Google sold too cheaply?

    Or is that how IPOs go.

    Labour. Out of touch with reality.
    Idiot , we did not own google, we did own Royal Mail. If google owner wanted to sell his company cheap that is his choice , Tory toffs filling their pals pockets with our assets is nothing like the same.
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    NextNext Posts: 826
    malcolmg said:

    Next said:

    tim said:

    Buy two thirds of Royal Mail, get the other third free.

    "The Government allowed its financial advisers to "defraud the taxpayer" of between £750m and £1bn over the sale of Royal Mail, the chair of the Business, Innovation and Skills Committee, Adrian Bailey, has said."

    http://www.politicshome.com/uk/story/37951/

    I'll repost my own comment from earlier:

    The Royal Mail share price has received criticism, but compare them with Google:-

    Google went to IPO on Aug 19, 2004 at $85 per share.

    By Sep 1st 2004, that share price was $130.

    Today Google shares are at around $1000.

    So, was Google sold too cheaply?

    Or is that how IPOs go.

    Labour. Out of touch with reality.
    Idiot , we did not own google, we did own Royal Mail. If google owner wanted to sell his company cheap that is his choice , Tory toffs filling their pals pockets with our assets is nothing like the same.
    No. It just means you don't understand IPOs.
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    AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    edited October 2013
    malcolmg said:

    Next said:

    tim said:

    Buy two thirds of Royal Mail, get the other third free.

    "The Government allowed its financial advisers to "defraud the taxpayer" of between £750m and £1bn over the sale of Royal Mail, the chair of the Business, Innovation and Skills Committee, Adrian Bailey, has said."

    http://www.politicshome.com/uk/story/37951/

    I'll repost my own comment from earlier:

    The Royal Mail share price has received criticism, but compare them with Google:-

    Google went to IPO on Aug 19, 2004 at $85 per share.

    By Sep 1st 2004, that share price was $130.

    Today Google shares are at around $1000.

    So, was Google sold too cheaply?

    Or is that how IPOs go.

    Labour. Out of touch with reality.
    Idiot , we did not own google, we did own Royal Mail. If google owner wanted to sell his company cheap that is his choice , Tory toffs filling their pals pockets with our assets is nothing like the same.
    The UK does own Scotland though, malcolm.

    IPOs may sometimes be underpriced but they are a good deal more profitable than ceding independence through a referendum.
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    dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,291
    malcolmg said:

    dr_spyn said:

    Salmond shouting out his message to the SNP faithful.

    http://www.snp.org/blog/post/2013/oct/alex-salmond-conference-address

    Perhaps he has only just moved to joined up writing from capital letters.

    "Delegates, we are entering a new chapter in our nation’s history.

    In less than one year’s time the people of Scotland will have the opportunity of a generation.

    That opportunity on September the 18th 2014 is this:

    TO BUILD A PROSPEROUS COUNTRY

    TO CREATE A JUST SOCIETY.

    TO BECOME AN INDEPENDENT COUNTRY."

    The stark contrast with the other parties is amazing , they had sparse attendance with sea of empty seats. SNP have a fully packed hall, says it all.
    Is that cos they locked the doors. To his credit, Salmond has given Sturgeon the hospital pass. Am looking forward to seeing Salmond's face when Scots vote No in larger numbers than he expects. But even if he loses, he can blame Nicola, and remain as FM, and max out his devolution powers.

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    malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 42,260

    Alastair Carmichael on Salmond's speech:

    "The SNP has had eighty years to work up its independence position so it is surprising that it has taken them this long to produce their White Paper. Let's hope the wait will have been worth it.

    Scots deserve answers based on fact, not assertion. In areas like pensions, financial services, defence sector jobs where they would have the power to act, the Scottish government should answer the detailed questions about what independence would mean."

    Anas Sarwar:

    "When will our first minister stop acting like he is in opposition and realise he is in Government? This speech was all about the powers he wants, not about what he will do with the powers he's got.

    Scotland remains on pause while the nationalists dream up goodies for the referendum campaign that they know they won't have to deliver on."

    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/oct/19/snp-conference-alex-salmonds-speech-politics-live-blog#block-5262ab8ce4b0760efba2afe6

    LOL , quotes from two absolute duffers, Sarwar can hardly remember his name and Carmichael is just a windbag and a lying one at that , typical LD , calls for SoS to be scrapped and then takes the job , only an LD could do that.
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    CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 59,876
    malcolmg said:

    Alastair Carmichael on Salmond's speech:

    "The SNP has had eighty years to work up its independence position so it is surprising that it has taken them this long to produce their White Paper. Let's hope the wait will have been worth it.

    Scots deserve answers based on fact, not assertion. In areas like pensions, financial services, defence sector jobs where they would have the power to act, the Scottish government should answer the detailed questions about what independence would mean."

    Anas Sarwar:

    "When will our first minister stop acting like he is in opposition and realise he is in Government? This speech was all about the powers he wants, not about what he will do with the powers he's got.

    Scotland remains on pause while the nationalists dream up goodies for the referendum campaign that they know they won't have to deliver on."

    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/oct/19/snp-conference-alex-salmonds-speech-politics-live-blog#block-5262ab8ce4b0760efba2afe6

    LOL , quotes from two absolute duffers, Sarwar can hardly remember his name and Carmichael is just a windbag and a lying one at that , typical LD , calls for SoS to be scrapped and then takes the job , only an LD could do that.
    Well, you demolished their arguments and no mistake!

    Or did you just call them names?

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    malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 42,260
    Scott_P said:

    @VMcAVSKY: Alistair Darling - former Chancellor and leader of @UK_Together - talks Scottish Independence tomorrow on @SkyNews #Murnaghan</blockquote

    That should be a laugh, we will hear the stuttering as soon as the lies start flowing. His video interview with Alan Taylor for the Scotsman must have been a good one , hidden in the cellars and never to be shown.

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    malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 42,260

    Can Salmond?

    You can add 'Nato' and 'currency' to that list.....

    Can those two tell me if we will be in or out of the EU by 2020, I ask myself.

    Alastair Carmichael on Salmond's speech:

    "The SNP has had eighty years to work up its independence position so it is surprising that it has taken them this long to produce their White Paper. Let's hope the wait will have been worth it.

    Scots deserve answers based on fact, not assertion. In areas like pensions, financial services, defence sector jobs where they would have the power to act, the Scottish government should answer the detailed questions about what independence would mean."

    Anas Sarwar:

    "When will our first minister stop acting like he is in opposition and realise he is in Government? This speech was all about the powers he wants, not about what he will do with the powers he's got.

    Scotland remains on pause while the nationalists dream up goodies for the referendum campaign that they know they won't have to deliver on."

    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/oct/19/snp-conference-alex-salmonds-speech-politics-live-blog#block-5262ab8ce4b0760efba2afe6

    He has clearly stated where he is on all 3, unlike the donkeys.
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    malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 42,260

    malcolmg said:

    Alastair Carmichael on Salmond's speech:

    "The SNP has had eighty years to work up its independence position so it is surprising that it has taken them this long to produce their White Paper. Let's hope the wait will have been worth it.

    Scots deserve answers based on fact, not assertion. In areas like pensions, financial services, defence sector jobs where they would have the power to act, the Scottish government should answer the detailed questions about what independence would mean."

    Anas Sarwar:

    "When will our first minister stop acting like he is in opposition and realise he is in Government? This speech was all about the powers he wants, not about what he will do with the powers he's got.

    Scotland remains on pause while the nationalists dream up goodies for the referendum campaign that they know they won't have to deliver on."

    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/oct/19/snp-conference-alex-salmonds-speech-politics-live-blog#block-5262ab8ce4b0760efba2afe6

    LOL , quotes from two absolute duffers, Sarwar can hardly remember his name and Carmichael is just a windbag and a lying one at that , typical LD , calls for SoS to be scrapped and then takes the job , only an LD could do that.
    Well, you demolished their arguments and no mistake!

    Or did you just call them names?

    They have no arguments, that is the point. It is verbal diahorea, it has been well stated when the white paper was coming so if that is the best Carmichael can come up with they should have stuck with Moore and as for the drivel from the other one , it is just puerile like most Labour pronouncements. Labour shout about SNP stating policies and when they do the idiots say they should be shutting up about their policies, some argument.
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    malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 42,260
    AveryLP said:

    malcolmg said:

    Next said:

    tim said:

    Buy two thirds of Royal Mail, get the other third free.

    "The Government allowed its financial advisers to "defraud the taxpayer" of between £750m and £1bn over the sale of Royal Mail, the chair of the Business, Innovation and Skills Committee, Adrian Bailey, has said."

    http://www.politicshome.com/uk/story/37951/

    I'll repost my own comment from earlier:

    The Royal Mail share price has received criticism, but compare them with Google:-

    Google went to IPO on Aug 19, 2004 at $85 per share.

    By Sep 1st 2004, that share price was $130.

    Today Google shares are at around $1000.

    So, was Google sold too cheaply?

    Or is that how IPOs go.

    Labour. Out of touch with reality.
    Idiot , we did not own google, we did own Royal Mail. If google owner wanted to sell his company cheap that is his choice , Tory toffs filling their pals pockets with our assets is nothing like the same.
    The UK does own Scotland though, malcolm.

    IPOs may sometimes be underpriced but they are a good deal more profitable than ceding independence through a referendum.
    Cameron said the referendum is none of the UK's business and should be left to Flipper to handle. Wonder if he advised Flipper to make sure he had a jumper on . I wonder how long he will be able to hide behind the sofa.
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    malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 42,260
    dr_spyn said:

    malcolmg said:

    dr_spyn said:

    Salmond shouting out his message to the SNP faithful.

    http://www.snp.org/blog/post/2013/oct/alex-salmond-conference-address

    Perhaps he has only just moved to joined up writing from capital letters.

    "Delegates, we are entering a new chapter in our nation’s history.

    In less than one year’s time the people of Scotland will have the opportunity of a generation.

    That opportunity on September the 18th 2014 is this:

    TO BUILD A PROSPEROUS COUNTRY

    TO CREATE A JUST SOCIETY.

    TO BECOME AN INDEPENDENT COUNTRY."

    The stark contrast with the other parties is amazing , they had sparse attendance with sea of empty seats. SNP have a fully packed hall, says it all.
    Is that cos they locked the doors. To his credit, Salmond has given Sturgeon the hospital pass. Am looking forward to seeing Salmond's face when Scots vote No in larger numbers than he expects. But even if he loses, he can blame Nicola, and remain as FM, and max out his devolution powers.

    Good for you
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    malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 42,260
    Next said:

    malcolmg said:

    Next said:

    tim said:

    Buy two thirds of Royal Mail, get the other third free.

    "The Government allowed its financial advisers to "defraud the taxpayer" of between £750m and £1bn over the sale of Royal Mail, the chair of the Business, Innovation and Skills Committee, Adrian Bailey, has said."

    http://www.politicshome.com/uk/story/37951/

    I'll repost my own comment from earlier:

    The Royal Mail share price has received criticism, but compare them with Google:-

    Google went to IPO on Aug 19, 2004 at $85 per share.

    By Sep 1st 2004, that share price was $130.

    Today Google shares are at around $1000.

    So, was Google sold too cheaply?

    Or is that how IPOs go.

    Labour. Out of touch with reality.
    Idiot , we did not own google, we did own Royal Mail. If google owner wanted to sell his company cheap that is his choice , Tory toffs filling their pals pockets with our assets is nothing like the same.
    No. It just means you don't understand IPOs.
    Any idiot can see a scam, smart arse.
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    malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 42,260

    malcolmg said:

    Interesting.

    Norman Smith tweets: Scottish Govt may send out a "Prospectus for Independence" to Scottish voters

    Will that count against the 'spend' for the referendum?

    Will 'Better Together' get to send out a similar document?

    They send out packs of lies on a daily basis , we don't need any more from those clowns. Perfectly acceptable for the elected government to give the Sottish people information on the referendum. Better Together can use their donations from foreigners to pay for their garbage.
    Then presumably you would have no objection to the elected government in Westminster doing the same?

    They are doing it on a daily basis , what planet do you live on
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    Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,050
    Mr. G, diarrhoea*. Verbal diarrhoea's a rather nice phrase.

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    YorkcityYorkcity Posts: 4,382
    Neil said:

    Yorkcity said:


    Hammond would be a safe pair of hands if still in govenment, but he does not look the type to do 5 years hard graft as leader of the opposition.

    What leads you to think this?
    Neil

    It is just my perception , that after you have had years in government as a cabinet minister in your fifties , you do not want to do 5 years as LOTO, especially when you have other qualities to use elsewhere.
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    CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 59,876
    malcolmg said:

    malcolmg said:

    Interesting.

    Norman Smith tweets: Scottish Govt may send out a "Prospectus for Independence" to Scottish voters

    Will that count against the 'spend' for the referendum?

    Will 'Better Together' get to send out a similar document?

    They send out packs of lies on a daily basis , we don't need any more from those clowns. Perfectly acceptable for the elected government to give the Sottish people information on the referendum. Better Together can use their donations from foreigners to pay for their garbage.
    Then presumably you would have no objection to the elected government in Westminster doing the same?

    They are doing it on a daily basis , what planet do you live on
    So the Westminster government is delivering a leaflet every day to Scottish households?

    Well, I'm not on planet Paranoia......
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    CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 59,876
    @tim - interesting, "others" down 4.....
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    Scrapheap_as_wasScrapheap_as_was Posts: 10,060
    edited October 2013
    IHT!

    As for spanners showing their true form against Man City, makes our 3-0 home defeat all the more depressing... at least not a Man U fan.
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    AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    edited October 2013
    tim said:

    Toby Helm ‏@tobyhelm
    Labour has 11% lead in Op/Obs poll. Lab 38 (+2) Con 27 (-2) Ukip 17 (+2), Lib Dems 9 (+2). Cameron lead on personal ratings also narrows.

    Of course informed PBers know Cameron doesn't have a lead at all on proper leader ratings

    Looks odd.

    Are you sure Opinium prompts for the Conservatives?
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    malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 42,260

    Mr. G, diarrhoea*. Verbal diarrhoea's a rather nice phrase.

    Mr D , excuse my spelling mistake.
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    malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 42,260
    tim said:

    AveryLP said:

    tim said:

    Toby Helm ‏@tobyhelm
    Labour has 11% lead in Op/Obs poll. Lab 38 (+2) Con 27 (-2) Ukip 17 (+2), Lib Dems 9 (+2). Cameron lead on personal ratings also narrows.

    Of course informed PBers know Cameron doesn't have a lead at all on proper leader ratings

    Looks odd.

    Are you sure Opinium prompts for the Conservatives?
    You mean intervene in the market?
    Best leave that to Danny and George the Pork Dim Sum of politics.

    Which one is Dumb and which one Dumber
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    Sean_FSean_F Posts: 36,013
    malcolmg said:

    fitalass said:

    This tactic doesn't surprise me, its an attempt by the SNP to try and get their chosen edited 'highlights' of their White Paper directly to Scottish voters bypassing the MSM. I have no problem with that as long as its a direct mail drop clearly labelled and funded by the SNP or the Yes Campaign. What concerns me is Norman Smith suggesting that the Scottish Government many send out a 'Prospectus for Independence', that really would be a misuse of the SNP's position in Government. This could yet be another sign of the recent fracturing of the Yes campaign in different directions.

    Interesting.

    Norman Smith tweets: Scottish Govt may send out a "Prospectus for Independence" to Scottish voters

    Will that count against the 'spend' for the referendum?

    Will 'Better Together' get to send out a similar document?

    Bollocks the Tories are spending countless millions bombarding us with papers that are blatant half truths and lies. No are using millions from foreign donations to do the same and you the brass neck to say the elected government of Scotland cannot send out information regarding the referendum, what planet do you live on.
    As for Fracturing of Yes , you could not make it up , dream on.
    It's heartbreaking. Every man's hand is against the Scots Nats.
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