@BBCNewsnight: In 2012 David Davis said police version of plebgate would be torn to shreds in court. On Newsnight he reacts to new officers' honesty query.
What odds one of these prospective deputies replaces Bercow in time I wonder. Hard enough to pick which one will win at this stage without adding that complication I suppose.
Why is somebody offering Tim to lay CON MAJ at EVS when he could back CON MAJ at 3/1 with William Hill?
That is a sign of just how betting illiterate PB has become.
With four or five exceptions the PB Tories are the thickest posters on the Internet.
Given the astonishingly daft bet you were offered on the previous thread, it is extremely hard to disagree.
That's an astonishingly stupid post. Given that one poster offered tim a bet at insane odds, all but 4 or 5 of the PB Tories are the thickest posters on the internet? You don't see a tiny problem with your logic?
That's an astonishingly stupid post. Given that one poster offered tim a bet at insane odds, all but 4 or 5 of the PB Tories are the thickest posters on the internet? You don't see a tiny problem with your logic?
The number of people who rise to obvious trolling would indicate that Tim has a point. Trolls live for the bite and people seem keen to provide it. Don't entertain trolls and they will stop.
Why is somebody offering Tim to lay CON MAJ at EVS when he could back CON MAJ at 3/1 with William Hill?
That is a sign of just how betting illiterate PB has become.
With four or five exceptions the PB Tories are the thickest posters on the Internet.
Given the astonishingly daft bet you were offered on the previous thread, it is extremely hard to disagree.
That's an astonishingly stupid post. Given that one poster offered tim a bet at insane odds, all but 4 or 5 of the PB Tories are the thickest posters on the internet? You don't see a tiny problem with your logic?
The lone PB Tory offering Tim insane odds on the previous thread is just a symptom of the festering illness that cripples the Tories on this forum. One almost feels sorry for the 4 or 5 that are not thick as mince.
If Gareth is indeed crocked, it's £100m if you want Andros from us .... but his dream is to play for QPR again so tough, you've missed out on this one!
I sincerely hope that things are not as bad as they appear with the Plebgate story. Certainly there have been instances of police behaviour and coverups more despicable, sadly, but the implications of the story at present are genuinely sinister if proven correct, which is in a different category than most.
Dan Hodges@DPJHodges5m Wellbeck is like Emile Heskey, but without the same keen eye for goal...
Wellbeck next goalscorer 11/2
Given your assertion that everything Hodges says is instantly proved wrong, I presume you've taken those odds on such a sure thing?
Personally I don't think he is always wrong, it's just that he is an obsessive dick, who has a one track mind, who gets re-produced on here incessantly.
tim and Stuart, on this 'all but 4 or 5 PB Tories are the thickest on the Internet' thing, is one borderline or do you both have trouble counting quite so high?
tim and Stuart, on this 'all but 4 or 5 PB Tories are the thickest on the Internet' thing, is one borderline or do you both have trouble counting quite so high?
Given Tim's "Osborne crying at a funeral will set the media narrative" stupidity, I wonder if he's classing himself as one of the aforementioned PBTories?
And I wish I could remember the name of the poster who said the other week that trains do not get traffic jams ...
Dan Hodges@DPJHodges5m Wellbeck is like Emile Heskey, but without the same keen eye for goal...
Wellbeck next goalscorer 11/2
Given your assertion that everything Hodges says is instantly proved wrong, I presume you've taken those odds on such a sure thing?
Personally I don't think he is always wrong, it's just that he is an obsessive dick, who has a one track mind, who gets re-produced on here incessantly.
I personally doubt he genuinely has a one track mind - when he branches out a bit more, he can be reasonably insightful on occasion - but more that he has established his niche as a blogger and so cannot really divert from it too often without losing his audience. The problem of course is that eventually you hammer home your point too often and only the choir being preached to ends up appreciating it.
I compare it to the capable of being funny but too often execreble Mark Steel who was on HIGNFY again a few days ago. He really hates the right, no question, and clearly picked up an audience for that focus ahead of anything else, and now he seems to have forgotten that most left wing comics attempt to be actually funny even if they are blatantly partisan, and that hating the right is not in itself hilarious.
Hodges also I am sure believes what he writes, but has pandered to the crowd that want to hear his anti-Miliband message from a Labour voice message so much that it's become pretty much all he can now do and now damages any other legitimate points he might come up with.
Re the Deputy Speaker race, on the assumption that Labour MPs will be the critical factor, what exactly are they looking for in a Deputy Speaker?
And how amusing to have the idea of MPs from one party essentially acting like canvassers and doorknockers for an MP from another party who they want to be Speaker/Deputy Speaker.
Hodges also I am sure believes what he writes, but has pandered to the crowd that want to hear his anti-Miliband message from a Labour voice message so much that it's become pretty much all he can now do and now damages any other legitimate points he might come up with.
If Miliband is not PM after the next election, can we expect 5 years of posts from the PB Kinnocks admitting he was right?
tim and Stuart, on this 'all but 4 or 5 PB Tories are the thickest on the Internet' thing, is one borderline or do you both have trouble counting quite so high?
We could probably add all but 4 or 5 PB Tories being obsessively thin skinned about any criticism.
'How dare you use the vile epithet PB Tory' etc, etc
Hodges also I am sure believes what he writes, but has pandered to the crowd that want to hear his anti-Miliband message from a Labour voice message so much that it's become pretty much all he can now do and now damages any other legitimate points he might come up with.
If Miliband is not PM after the next election, can we expect 5 years of posts from the PB Kinnocks admitting he was right?
That would seem justified I guess. I've thought Labour would get back in since 2010 right after the election, so I will have a lot of humble pie to eat if Miliband is not PM in 2015, and I've already put on 2 stone this year and don't think I can handle that!
Although even if he is right on that point, I would stand on the point that the repetition of a single opinion over and over obsessively, and the caricature of interpreting near everything as bad for one side over the other as almost a lone voice, does undermine other points that person would make, as by choice they are making no effort to be objective. It's why I find it so hard to look for valid points from polemicists, because their opinions clearly come first and then they find facts to support, rather than even looking for a pretense of doing otherwise. It does sometimes pay off, granted.
tim and Stuart, on this 'all but 4 or 5 PB Tories are the thickest on the Internet' thing, is one borderline or do you both have trouble counting quite so high?
We could probably add all but 4 or 5 PB Tories being obsessively thin skinned about any criticism.
'How dare you use the vile epithet PB Tory' etc, etc
Dan Hodges@DPJHodges5m Wellbeck is like Emile Heskey, but without the same keen eye for goal...
Wellbeck next goalscorer 11/2
Given your assertion that everything Hodges says is instantly proved wrong, I presume you've taken those odds on such a sure thing?
Personally I don't think he is always wrong, it's just that he is an obsessive dick, who has a one track mind, who gets re-produced on here incessantly.
I personally doubt he genuinely has a one track mind - when he branches out a bit more, he can be reasonably insightful on occasion - but more that he has established his niche as a blogger and so cannot really divert from it too often without losing his audience. The problem of course is that eventually you hammer home your point too often and only the choir being preached to ends up appreciating it.
I compare it to the capable of being funny but too often execreble Mark Steel who was on HIGNFY again a few days ago. He really hates the right, no question, and clearly picked up an audience for that focus ahead of anything else, and now he seems to have forgotten that most left wing comics attempt to be actually funny even if they are blatantly partisan, and that hating the right is not in itself hilarious.
Hodges also I am sure believes what he writes, but has pandered to the crowd that want to hear his anti-Miliband message from a Labour voice message so much that it's become pretty much all he can now do and now damages any other legitimate points he might come up with.
The problem for Hodges is, as he publically announced to his right wing readership, he is no longer a Labour man. He is no longer a "Blairite cuckoo in the Miliband nest" he is more like a Blairite cuckoo trying to jump in the Cameroon nest. Another problem for him is there are hundreds of bloggers out there who are not Labour men who slag off Labour on a daily basis and quite a few of them write for the dead tree press. He has lost his niche.
tim and Stuart, on this 'all but 4 or 5 PB Tories are the thickest on the Internet' thing, is one borderline or do you both have trouble counting quite so high?
We could probably add all but 4 or 5 PB Tories being obsessively thin skinned about any criticism.
'How dare you use the vile epithet PB Tory' etc, etc
Should the off topic button be re named "off topic and I disagree?" for consistency?
Most posts are off topic I reckon, hence the oft used "On Topic"
The off topic button is useless in this kind of forum, given that we only have one thread in which to natter away. The like button should be restored, as it highlights funny/interesting comments which may otherwise be missed (IMO).
Should the off topic button be re named "off topic and I disagree?" for consistency?
Most posts are off topic I reckon, hence the oft used "On Topic"
The off topic button is useless in this kind of forum, given that we only have one thread in which to natter away. The like button should be restored, as it highlights funny/interesting comments which may otherwise be missed (IMO).
Should the off topic button be re named "off topic and I disagree?" for consistency?
Most posts are off topic I reckon, hence the oft used "On Topic"
The off topic button is useless in this kind of forum, given that we only have one thread in which to natter away. The like button should be restored, as it highlights funny/interesting comments which may otherwise be missed (IMO).
I only mentioned it because you "off topic'd" me!
Ah crap, must be fat fingers on the iPhone. Let me un-flag you now ;-)
Should the off topic button be re named "off topic and I disagree?" for consistency?
Most posts are off topic I reckon, hence the oft used "On Topic"
The off topic button is useless in this kind of forum, given that we only have one thread in which to natter away. The like button should be restored, as it highlights funny/interesting comments which may otherwise be missed (IMO).
I only mentioned it because you "off topic'd" me!
Ah crap, must be fat fingers on the iPhone. Let me un-flag you now ;-)
To be honest that is where I expected it to end up on October 1st. The thing to remember here is that while the Tea Party are many things, they aren't rational and they don't care about the rest of the republican party.
What I don't get is how can they leaving Washington works without making them look 100% responsible. Then again when does anything the tea party does make sense over the pond.
To be honest that is where I expected it to end up on October 1st. The thing to remember here is that while the Tea Party are many things, they aren't rational and they don't care about the rest of the republican party.
What I don't get is how can they leaving Washington works without making them look 100% responsible. Then again when does anything the tea party does make sense over the pond.
They believe what they are doing is right for America.
The UK Border Agency has sent what is thought to be hundreds of intimidating text messages to British Citizens threatening them with deportation. The has come to light after a British man of a South Asian background was sent a message ”from the UK Border Agency” which told him:
“You are required to leave the UK as you no longer have right to remain.”
Unfortunately for Theresa May’s Home Office — who run the Border Agency — and their contractor Capita, this morning’s Guardian diary reports that the message in question was sent to Suresh Grover, who founded an anti-racism charity. The messages are apparently intended for foreign nationals such as over-stayers, but with at least 200 formal complaints over the texts, the number of messages sent in error to British Citizens is thought to be much higher.
eek The GOP is presently being held hostage by its own militant tendency, the Tea Party, and is as unelectable as Labour was in the eighties (although unlike Labour the fact the US has mid-terms does give it some power in one of the 3 sections of elected government). I expect Hillary to win in 2016 and be re-elected in 2020 meaning the GOP will be out of office for a generation until 2024!
Also, just come back from an excellent one man play on Churchill's time on the run in South Africa!
Amess: Bob Russell, Peter Lilley, Andrew Tyre, Roger Godsiff, Angela Watkinson, Tom Harris. Mike Weir, Linda Riordan, Mark Williams, Ed Leigh
Bellingham: David Ruffley, Malcolm Rifkind, Nigel Adams, Chloe Smith, Pauline Latham, Penny Mourdant, Ian Lucas, Russell Brown, Gordon Birtwistle, Zac Goldsmith
Binley: Mike Penning, Mike Hancock, Peter Bone, John Hayes, Jim Dobbin, Katy Clark, Jeffrey Donaldson, Mark Menzies, Rebecca Harris, Adrian Bailey
Burns: John Randall, Peter Bottomley, Karen Lumley, Julian Sturdy, Jackie Doyle Price, Keith Simpson, Therese Coffrey, Nick De Bois, Robert Buckland, Caroline Nokes
Nadine: Chris Kelly, Stewart Jackson, Rosie Cooper, Sian James, Anne Main, Stephen McPartland
Laing: Richard Ottaway, Bernard Jenkin, Kevin Barron, Kevin Doran, Andrea Leasom, Jacob Rees Mogg, Sylvia Harmon, Malcolm Bruce, Graham Allen, Tessa Jowell
Streeter: Gerald Kaufman, Alistir Burt, Meg Munn, Priti Patel, Tim Farron, Mark Field, Paul Goggins, John Glen, Alison Seaback, Sarah Wollaston
BBC America has been relentlessly and tediously promoting something called 'Torchwood' for the last few weeks, (even more - if that's possible - than it promotes the Graham Norton Show), so I have dvred several episodes.
It seems somewhat off beat, as they appear to operate from under a building shaped like a large Hovis loaf amidst a 60s style concrete brutal area apparently in Cardiff.
They keep mentioning 'Unit', and referring to 'the doctor', so my question is does this have any connection with Dr. Who, and if so what? I haven't seen Dr Who since Tom Baker, Jon Pertwee days, but I remember the brigadier and Unit. The new Doctor is even in it.
They keep mentioning 'Unit', and referring to 'the doctor', so my question is does this have any connection with Dr. Who, and if so what? I haven't seen Dr Who since Tom Baker, Jon Pertwee days, but I remember the brigadier and Unit. The new Doctor is even in it.
It's a spin-off from Doctor Who in the sense that the main character, Captain Jack (played by John Barrowman) featured in several episodes of the 2005 series of Doctor Who before moving over to Torchwood - but the plan always was that he'd have his own show and he was only ever written into Doctor Who with this in mind to begin with...
If it had not been posted yet..here's who nominated who in the Deputy Speaker race...
Thanks Andrea. Clear edge by Laing and Streeter there in terms of heavyweight mainstream support. I'd think the Labour vote will go heavily to those two. When is the vote?
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Best prices:
Eleanor Laing 6/4
Henry Bellingham 3/1 Lad
Gary Streeter 7/2
Simon Burns 11/2 PP
Brian Binley 8/1 Lad
David Amess 20/1 Lad
Nadine Dorries 33/1
except for all the evidence discrediting one account.
sorry. couldn't let that one slide. it's an amazing post.
Happy to leave that bet we had on UKIP in London.
Was it that they would be the biggest party amongst white working class people in London? If so seems hard to settle.
Almost.
You're welcome.
Snodgrass !
If Gareth is indeed crocked, it's £100m if you want Andros from us .... but his dream is to play for QPR again so tough, you've missed out on this one!
'Betrayal of elderly on social care costs'
- Thousands could be forced to sell homes despite earlier Government assurances.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/10378848/Betrayal-of-elderly-on-social-care-costs.html
40/1
Yes, I did.
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2013/10/unconscionable-irresponsibility-republican-house/70571/
Dan Hodges@DPJHodges5m
Wellbeck is like Emile Heskey, but without the same keen eye for goal...
Ray Winston there making gambling on football look quite exciting. Good adverts. Scotland to ever qualify for another world cup. 50-1.
Great day for Raceclear on the Nags too...
The reports (read here) on the hustings make it sound like a fairly entertaining contest. Presumably it's a secret ballot?
And I wish I could remember the name of the poster who said the other week that trains do not get traffic jams ...
I compare it to the capable of being funny but too often execreble Mark Steel who was on HIGNFY again a few days ago. He really hates the right, no question, and clearly picked up an audience for that focus ahead of anything else, and now he seems to have forgotten that most left wing comics attempt to be actually funny even if they are blatantly partisan, and that hating the right is not in itself hilarious.
Hodges also I am sure believes what he writes, but has pandered to the crowd that want to hear his anti-Miliband message from a Labour voice message so much that it's become pretty much all he can now do and now damages any other legitimate points he might come up with.
Whatever happened to
Poland boys we are here,
Sh*g your women and take your career....
And how amusing to have the idea of MPs from one party essentially acting like canvassers and doorknockers for an MP from another party who they want to be Speaker/Deputy Speaker.
'How dare you use the vile epithet PB Tory' etc, etc
Although even if he is right on that point, I would stand on the point that the repetition of a single opinion over and over obsessively, and the caricature of interpreting near everything as bad for one side over the other as almost a lone voice, does undermine other points that person would make, as by choice they are making no effort to be objective. It's why I find it so hard to look for valid points from polemicists, because their opinions clearly come first and then they find facts to support, rather than even looking for a pretense of doing otherwise. It does sometimes pay off, granted.
Don't tell him, Pike...
Most posts are off topic I reckon, hence the oft used "On Topic"
A goal for Gerrard means our #MBS kicks in. Ouch!!!
Sorry about that
'Aaron Ramsey runs on to a cute ass from Craig Bellamy to stab in through the keeper's legs.'
A year or two ago the F1 commentators did mention once or twice that Glock had slipped inside the Virgin.
Titters ....
Belgium 1 - 1 Wales
Italy 2 - 2 Armenia
Azerbaijan 1 - 1 Russia
Israel 1 - 1 N.Ireland
Montenegro 2 - 5 Moldova
What I don't get is how can they leaving Washington works without making them look 100% responsible. Then again when does anything the tea party does make sense over the pond.
How many economists told Thatcher she was wrong?
The UK Border Agency has sent what is thought to be hundreds of intimidating text messages to British Citizens threatening them with deportation. The has come to light after a British man of a South Asian background was sent a message ”from the UK Border Agency” which told him:
“You are required to leave the UK as you no longer have right to remain.”
Unfortunately for Theresa May’s Home Office — who run the Border Agency — and their contractor Capita, this morning’s Guardian diary reports that the message in question was sent to Suresh Grover, who founded an anti-racism charity. The messages are apparently intended for foreign nationals such as over-stayers, but with at least 200 formal complaints over the texts, the number of messages sent in error to British Citizens is thought to be much higher.
Also, just come back from an excellent one man play on Churchill's time on the run in South Africa!
http://www.parliament.uk/documents/speaker/Election-of-Deputy-Speaker-16-October-2013-list-of-candidates-and-their-sponsors.pdf
Amess: Bob Russell, Peter Lilley, Andrew Tyre, Roger Godsiff, Angela Watkinson, Tom Harris. Mike Weir, Linda Riordan, Mark Williams, Ed Leigh
Bellingham: David Ruffley, Malcolm Rifkind, Nigel Adams, Chloe Smith, Pauline Latham, Penny Mourdant, Ian Lucas, Russell Brown, Gordon Birtwistle, Zac Goldsmith
Binley: Mike Penning, Mike Hancock, Peter Bone, John Hayes, Jim Dobbin, Katy Clark, Jeffrey Donaldson, Mark Menzies, Rebecca Harris, Adrian Bailey
Burns: John Randall, Peter Bottomley, Karen Lumley, Julian Sturdy, Jackie Doyle Price, Keith Simpson, Therese Coffrey, Nick De Bois, Robert Buckland, Caroline Nokes
Nadine: Chris Kelly, Stewart Jackson, Rosie Cooper, Sian James, Anne Main, Stephen McPartland
Laing: Richard Ottaway, Bernard Jenkin, Kevin Barron, Kevin Doran, Andrea Leasom, Jacob Rees Mogg, Sylvia Harmon, Malcolm Bruce, Graham Allen, Tessa Jowell
Streeter: Gerald Kaufman, Alistir Burt, Meg Munn, Priti Patel, Tim Farron, Mark Field, Paul Goggins, John Glen, Alison Seaback, Sarah Wollaston
Nadine only submitted the exact minium required.
It seems somewhat off beat, as they appear to operate from under a building shaped like a large Hovis loaf amidst a 60s style concrete brutal area apparently in Cardiff.
They keep mentioning 'Unit', and referring to 'the doctor', so my question is does this have any connection with Dr. Who, and if so what? I haven't seen Dr Who since Tom Baker, Jon Pertwee days, but I remember the brigadier and Unit. The new Doctor is even in it.
Amess: 10
Bellingham: 10
Binley: 10
Burns: 10
Nadine: 6
Laing: 10
Streeter: 10
Sun/YouGov poll tonight: Labour lead back to 5 points. LAB 39%, CON 34%, UKIP 11%, LD 9%.
Of course Torchwood is also an anagram...
Nick Sutton @suttonnick 1m
Like the Sun's asterisk on Brazilian headline - "It's a close shave but we wax Poles" #tomorrowspaperstoday #EngvPol
pic.twitter.com/C8yYqQjvsp
Thanks Andrea. Clear edge by Laing and Streeter there in terms of heavyweight mainstream support. I'd think the Labour vote will go heavily to those two. When is the vote?
There's a battle outside
And it is ragin'
It'll soon shake your windows
And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin'.