We've been here before. I'm expecting a deal to be done. I'm also expecting a few more turns of the screw first.
I expect a deal to be done, too. The alternative is too bleak for all but the most swivel-eyed and insulated of the Buccaneers. But getting to one involves finding a form of words that can be spun domestically by the government as not being a total capitulation. That is surely going to take a while longer yet.
We've been here before. I'm expecting a deal to be done. I'm also expecting a few more turns of the screw first.
Yep. Also could be seen as a set-up to "we were totally being reasonable and were totally ready to deal, but then that mean M. Barnier double-crossed us. Boooo!" etc, etc.
EDIT: I see M. Barnier has outsourced the meanness and double-crossery to the Irish.
The speed with which this ferret was reversed is impressive. Suggests very little optimism that any deal will be done in Nov, which hopefully means that the CJEU will have delivered the judgement on Article 50 revocation by the time the bunfight about amendments gets serious.
The speed with which this ferret was reversed is impressive. Suggests very little optimism that any deal will be done in Nov, which hopefully means that the CJEU will have delivered the judgement on Article 50 revocation by the time the bunfight about amendments gets serious.
The speed with which this ferret was reversed is impressive. Suggests very little optimism that any deal will be done in Nov, which hopefully means that the CJEU will have delivered the judgement on Article 50 revocation by the time the bunfight about amendments gets serious.
Brexiteers are so incompetent they couldn’t organise a pregnancy on a council estate.
The speed with which this ferret was reversed is impressive. Suggests very little optimism that any deal will be done in Nov, which hopefully means that the CJEU will have delivered the judgement on Article 50 revocation by the time the bunfight about amendments gets serious.
Brexiteers are so incompetent they couldn’t organise a pregnancy on a council estate.
To a Brexiteer, telling silly lies to Hilary Benn and the Brexit committee is all in the game, yo. It's not a matter of incompetence.
The speed with which this ferret was reversed is impressive. Suggests very little optimism that any deal will be done in Nov, which hopefully means that the CJEU will have delivered the judgement on Article 50 revocation by the time the bunfight about amendments gets serious.
Brexiteers are so incompetent they couldn’t organise a pregnancy on a council estate.
This November 21st date, when it passes with no further progress made is could hurt market confidence in the Gov't.
The speed with which this ferret was reversed is impressive. Suggests very little optimism that any deal will be done in Nov, which hopefully means that the CJEU will have delivered the judgement on Article 50 revocation by the time the bunfight about amendments gets serious.
Brexiteers are so incompetent they couldn’t organise a pregnancy on a council estate.
This November 21st date, when it passes with no further progress made is could hurt market confidence in the Gov't.
The speed with which this ferret was reversed is impressive. Suggests very little optimism that any deal will be done in Nov, which hopefully means that the CJEU will have delivered the judgement on Article 50 revocation by the time the bunfight about amendments gets serious.
Brexiteers are so incompetent they couldn’t organise a pregnancy on a council estate.
To a Brexiteer, telling silly lies to Hilary Benn and the Brexit committee is all in the game, yo. It's not a matter of incompetence.
Perhaps Raab can pass the little lies off as rumours ?
The speed with which this ferret was reversed is impressive. Suggests very little optimism that any deal will be done in Nov, which hopefully means that the CJEU will have delivered the judgement on Article 50 revocation by the time the bunfight about amendments gets serious.
Brexiteers are so incompetent they couldn’t organise a pregnancy on a council estate.
This November 21st date, when it passes with no further progress made is could hurt market confidence in the Gov't.
The speed with which this ferret was reversed is impressive. Suggests very little optimism that any deal will be done in Nov, which hopefully means that the CJEU will have delivered the judgement on Article 50 revocation by the time the bunfight about amendments gets serious.
Brexiteers are so incompetent they couldn’t organise a pregnancy on a council estate.
This November 21st date, when it passes with no further progress made is could hurt market confidence in the Gov't.
Is Dominic Raab a pound shop Elon Musk?
Don't think so - Musk has put a car into space this year. What's Raab done ?
I might come to regret this, but I've taken a big punt on the turnout spreads in SPIN's state turnout markets being too high.
I realise that turnout is expected to be higher than normal for mid-term elections, but comparing the spreads with 538's model and the derisory turnout four years ago in a number of states, the uplift looks too big - especially in the southern states where many people just don't vote.
Take TX for example. OK, it's a high-profile and hotly-contested election this time, but the spread at 47-49 compares with 39.4% estimated in the 538 model and 28.5% four years ago. That's quite a difference.
Or take a lower-profile contest like Mississippi Wicker vs Baria: 29.7% last time, 38.9% 538, compared with SPIN's price of 44-46.
DYOR, I might lose my shirt and so might you, spreads are dangerous etc etc,
I might come to regret this, but I've taken a big punt on the turnout spreads in SPIN's state turnout markets being too high.
I realise that turnout is expected to be higher than normal for mid-term elections, but comparing the spreads with 538's model and the derisory turnout four years ago in a number of states, the uplift looks too big - especially in the southern states where many people just don't vote.
Take TX for example. OK, it's a high-profile and hotly-contested election this time, but the spread at 47-49 compares with 39.4% estimated in the 538 model and 28.5% four years ago. That's quite a difference.
Or take a lower-profile contest like Mississippi Wicker vs Baria: 29.7% last time, 38.9% 538, compared with SPIN's price of 44-46.
DYOR, I might lose my shirt and so might you, spreads are dangerous etc etc,
I might come to regret this, but I've taken a big punt on the turnout spreads in SPIN's state turnout markets being too high.
I realise that turnout is expected to be higher than normal for mid-term elections, but comparing the spreads with 538's model and the derisory turnout four years ago in a number of states, the uplift looks too big - especially in the southern states where many people just don't vote.
Take TX for example. OK, it's a high-profile and hotly-contested election this time, but the spread at 47-49 compares with 39.4% estimated in the 538 model and 28.5% four years ago. That's quite a difference.
Or take a lower-profile contest like Mississippi Wicker vs Baria: 29.7% last time, 38.9% 538, compared with SPIN's price of 44-46.
DYOR, I might lose my shirt and so might you, spreads are dangerous etc etc,
I might come to regret this, but I've taken a big punt on the turnout spreads in SPIN's state turnout markets being too high.
I realise that turnout is expected to be higher than normal for mid-term elections, but comparing the spreads with 538's model and the derisory turnout four years ago in a number of states, the uplift looks too big - especially in the southern states where many people just don't vote.
Take TX for example. OK, it's a high-profile and hotly-contested election this time, but the spread at 47-49 compares with 39.4% estimated in the 538 model and 28.5% four years ago. That's quite a difference.
Or take a lower-profile contest like Mississippi Wicker vs Baria: 29.7% last time, 38.9% 538, compared with SPIN's price of 44-46.
DYOR, I might lose my shirt and so might you, spreads are dangerous etc etc,
I simply cannot see the Democrats taking Texas. No Democrat has won a senatorial race there since 1988, and no new (as opposed to incumbent) Democratic senator has won there since 1971. It may be gradually trending back towards them, like Virginia, but I think we have a fair way to go before they retake it.
If they do take it, great, because apart from anything else it's a very important state in the electoral college. It just seems very unlikely.
I might come to regret this, but I've taken a big punt on the turnout spreads in SPIN's state turnout markets being too high.
I realise that turnout is expected to be higher than normal for mid-term elections, but comparing the spreads with 538's model and the derisory turnout four years ago in a number of states, the uplift looks too big - especially in the southern states where many people just don't vote.
Take TX for example. OK, it's a high-profile and hotly-contested election this time, but the spread at 47-49 compares with 39.4% estimated in the 538 model and 28.5% four years ago. That's quite a difference.
Or take a lower-profile contest like Mississippi Wicker vs Baria: 29.7% last time, 38.9% 538, compared with SPIN's price of 44-46.
DYOR, I might lose my shirt and so might you, spreads are dangerous etc etc,
I simply cannot see the Democrats taking Texas. No Democrat has won a senatorial race there since 1988, and no new (as opposed to incumbent) Democratic senator has won there since 1971. It may be gradually trending back towards them, like Virginia, but I think we have a fair way to go before they retake it.
If they do take it, great, because apart from anything else it's a very important state in the electoral college. It just seems very unlikely.
Demographics say theirs will eventually but this seems four to eight years too early.
The speed with which this ferret was reversed is impressive. Suggests very little optimism that any deal will be done in Nov, which hopefully means that the CJEU will have delivered the judgement on Article 50 revocation by the time the bunfight about amendments gets serious.
Brexiteers are so incompetent they couldn’t organise a pregnancy on a council estate.
This November 21st date, when it passes with no further progress made is could hurt market confidence in the Gov't.
Is Dominic Raab a pound shop Elon Musk?
Don't think so - Musk has put a car into space this year. What's Raab done ?
Raab is still a cadet when it comes to the space stuff.
There's a good summary of historical turnout in US elections here (including maps you can hover over to see the figures for each state in 2016, 2014, 2012):
A United States congressional candidate has used a picture of a British seaside village to show what could happen if voters do not back President Trump.
An advert used an image of Jaywick Sands, near Clacton in Essex, to attack Nick Stella's Democrat opponent.
The campaign picture, which showed an unpaved road and rundown homes, said: "Help President Trump keep America on track and thriving."
I might come to regret this, but I've taken a big punt on the turnout spreads in SPIN's state turnout markets being too high.
I realise that turnout is expected to be higher than normal for mid-term elections, but comparing the spreads with 538's model and the derisory turnout four years ago in a number of states, the uplift looks too big - especially in the southern states where many people just don't vote.
Take TX for example. OK, it's a high-profile and hotly-contested election this time, but the spread at 47-49 compares with 39.4% estimated in the 538 model and 28.5% four years ago. That's quite a difference.
Or take a lower-profile contest like Mississippi Wicker vs Baria: 29.7% last time, 38.9% 538, compared with SPIN's price of 44-46.
DYOR, I might lose my shirt and so might you, spreads are dangerous etc etc,
I might come to regret this, but I've taken a big punt on the turnout spreads in SPIN's state turnout markets being too high. ...
I don't gamble, but I do greatly appreciate the betting posts and the analysis they contain.
Thanks. (I don't gamble either, of course - I invest in the political betting markets!)
Down that road be danger....!
When I started in 2008, it turned out that the bigger danger was investing in nice safe banks like RBS and Lloyds.
Lloyds would almost certainly have been fine if it hadn't tried to swallow HBOS.
RBS on the other hand was approximately as safe as walking into a meeting of Islington Labour Party and announcing you support the existence of Israel.
The speed with which this ferret was reversed is impressive. Suggests very little optimism that any deal will be done in Nov, which hopefully means that the CJEU will have delivered the judgement on Article 50 revocation by the time the bunfight about amendments gets serious.
Brexiteers are so incompetent they couldn’t organise a pregnancy on a council estate.
This November 21st date, when it passes with no further progress made is could hurt market confidence in the Gov't.
Is Dominic Raab a pound shop Elon Musk?
Nah, he's not electrifying enough.
Unsurprising, as he rhymes with the obsolete Saab.
The speed with which this ferret was reversed is impressive. Suggests very little optimism that any deal will be done in Nov, which hopefully means that the CJEU will have delivered the judgement on Article 50 revocation by the time the bunfight about amendments gets serious.
Brexiteers are so incompetent they couldn’t organise a pregnancy on a council estate.
This November 21st date, when it passes with no further progress made is could hurt market confidence in the Gov't.
Is Dominic Raab a pound shop Elon Musk?
Nah, he's not electrifying enough.
Unsurprising, as he rhymes with the obsolete Saab.
Down to the 9000 Saabs were extremely good cars.
With the 93 and 95 they completely lost their way.
Why does the lead say that the £ is rising when it isn't?
Depends on your scale. GBP/USD rises around 50% of the time on all but the longest timeframes. The greater your timeframe the more disappointing cable (gbp/usd) looks.
We still quote these rates in the traditional way though. The question is how many of your ropey old greenbacks would you need to buy one of our nice proper pounds!?
The speed with which this ferret was reversed is impressive. Suggests very little optimism that any deal will be done in Nov, which hopefully means that the CJEU will have delivered the judgement on Article 50 revocation by the time the bunfight about amendments gets serious.
Brexiteers are so incompetent they couldn’t organise a pregnancy on a council estate.
This November 21st date, when it passes with no further progress made is could hurt market confidence in the Gov't.
Is Dominic Raab a pound shop Elon Musk?
Nah, he's not electrifying enough.
Unsurprising, as he rhymes with the obsolete Saab.
Down to the 9000 Saabs were extremely good cars.
With the 93 and 95 they completely lost their way.
Oi, I still have a Saab, the 95 that they introduced just before they went bust. It isn't that bad, but as so few were made I suspect parts will soon become unavailable.
Maybe Dominic Raab just likes playing the currency markets?
With hindsight it is cute that market traders took his letter at face value.
There may come a time when we miss such a trusting reaction.
Some did, some didn't. I can tell you one thing about currency markets - they're not reacting in the way you think they are, and that applies whoever you are.
The speed with which this ferret was reversed is impressive. Suggests very little optimism that any deal will be done in Nov, which hopefully means that the CJEU will have delivered the judgement on Article 50 revocation by the time the bunfight about amendments gets serious.
Brexiteers are so incompetent they couldn’t organise a pregnancy on a council estate.
This November 21st date, when it passes with no further progress made is could hurt market confidence in the Gov't.
Is Dominic Raab a pound shop Elon Musk?
Nah, he's not electrifying enough.
Unsurprising, as he rhymes with the obsolete Saab.
Raab is just testing the government preferred option - simply declare Brexit without any actual deal or anything actually changing.
Brexit means Brexit. A Red White and Blue Brexit. But you haven't actually left! Yes we have. We are now free to do whatever we want. We want to be a member of the EU But how is that Brexit? Because Brexit means Brexit. We have left the European Union and instead become EU members
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I see. Thanks.
Nah, Brexiteers are like Carthage after the Battle of Cannae.
They may have been lucky in winning a battle but all they’ve done is rouse their opponents into giving them a shellacking.
Think Zama meets Kleidion.
EDIT: I see M. Barnier has outsourced the meanness and double-crossery to the Irish.
The speed with which this ferret was reversed is impressive. Suggests very little optimism that any deal will be done in Nov, which hopefully means that the CJEU will have delivered the judgement on Article 50 revocation by the time the bunfight about amendments gets serious.
I might come to regret this, but I've taken a big punt on the turnout spreads in SPIN's state turnout markets being too high.
I realise that turnout is expected to be higher than normal for mid-term elections, but comparing the spreads with 538's model and the derisory turnout four years ago in a number of states, the uplift looks too big - especially in the southern states where many people just don't vote.
Take TX for example. OK, it's a high-profile and hotly-contested election this time, but the spread at 47-49 compares with 39.4% estimated in the 538 model and 28.5% four years ago. That's quite a difference.
Or take a lower-profile contest like Mississippi Wicker vs Baria: 29.7% last time, 38.9% 538, compared with SPIN's price of 44-46.
DYOR, I might lose my shirt and so might you, spreads are dangerous etc etc,
2014 turnouts here:
https://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/12/opinion/the-worst-voter-turnout-in-72-years.html
If they do take it, great, because apart from anything else it's a very important state in the electoral college. It just seems very unlikely.
Technical discussion of the Indonesian plane crash.
https://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/614857-indonesian-aircraft-missing-off-jakarta-15.html
https://www.fairvote.org/voter_turnout#voter_turnout_101
A United States congressional candidate has used a picture of a British seaside village to show what could happen if voters do not back President Trump.
An advert used an image of Jaywick Sands, near Clacton in Essex, to attack Nick Stella's Democrat opponent.
The campaign picture, which showed an unpaved road and rundown homes, said: "Help President Trump keep America on track and thriving."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-4604749
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/oct/31/home-office-tells-northern-irish-woman-to-prove-right-to-live-in-belfast
I'm sure there's an analogy to made about Solo and Brexit.
RBS on the other hand was approximately as safe as walking into a meeting of Islington Labour Party and announcing you support the existence of Israel.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-46047494
Essex is a dump.
Hopefully Alastair Meeks will class up the joint.
Last time I went to Chicago it was soooooo cold and a lot more people would have died if the bullets hadn't frozen mid air.
Can ranked-choice voting end ugly election battles? This November, Maine hopes to find out.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/10/31/can-ranked-choice-voting-end-ugly-election-battles-this-november-maine-hopes-find-out/
With the 93 and 95 they completely lost their way.
We still quote these rates in the traditional way though. The question is how many of your ropey old greenbacks would you need to buy one of our nice proper pounds!?
Underpants are priced in pounds. Dollars too
To be honest I'm not sure they would dispute most of what is said about it.
There may come a time when we miss such a trusting reaction.
Corbyn smiles.
Brexit means Brexit. A Red White and Blue Brexit.
But you haven't actually left!
Yes we have. We are now free to do whatever we want. We want to be a member of the EU
But how is that Brexit?
Because Brexit means Brexit. We have left the European Union and instead become EU members
"Europe Elects
@EuropeElects
UK, YouGov poll:
CON-ECR: 41%
LAB-S&D: 39% (+3)
LDEM-ALDE: 7% (-1)
UKIP-EFDD: 5% (+1)
SNP/PCY-G/EFA: 4% (-2)
GREENS-G/EFA: 2% (-2)
Field work: 29/10/18 – 30/10/18
Sample size: 1,648"
https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2018/10/31/ignominious-death-of-united-kingdom.html
Perhaps there really is no such thing as bad publicity.
NEW THREAD
When are you going to let someone who knows what they're talking about take over your account?