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  • archer101auarcher101au Posts: 1,612
    Anazina said:

    Just joining the thread.

    The Archer-Aussie Ergers are all push and no piss.

    As I said many days ago.

    The letters remain constant at 47.9

    Did you not hear JRM telling the ERG to not send in letters, and to withdraw any letters that were in?

    They don’t want May out now. She is our best chance of no deal. If she sells out on her latest red lines, that is the time to topple her. If not, they will just vote the deal down.

    Labour are not coming to the rescue of May’s crap deal.

    It is a shame that the editorials of this site have become so unbalanced. It is a bit of a joke now when a Daily Mail comment column is worth a thread header just because it backs May. Then today a criticism about the ERG not toppling May when they are going around telling their members to take their lettters out....
  • OchEyeOchEye Posts: 1,469
    Pulpstar said:

    I hope Nandy and other sensible Labour figures with leave constituencies back May's deal that she is pushing for, the customs transition territory is essentially the same as Corbyn's customs union; at least till the next General Election - at which point if Labour win they can simply extend it indefinitely.

    It would be absolute madness to risk the possibility of "No deal" for narrow party gain.

    It would be interesting to consider if the positions were reversed, in that if the Labour Party was in power with a similar minority government, how many commentators here would be wanting Tory rebels to support the government for the "national interest"....
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,176

    Anazina said:

    Just joining the thread.

    The Archer-Aussie Ergers are all push and no piss.

    As I said many days ago.

    The letters remain constant at 47.9

    Did you not hear JRM telling the ERG to not send in letters, and to withdraw any letters that were in?

    They don’t want May out now. She is our best chance of no deal. If she sells out on her latest red lines, that is the time to topple her. If not, they will just vote the deal down.

    Labour are not coming to the rescue of May’s crap deal.

    It is a shame that the editorials of this site have become so unbalanced. It is a bit of a joke now when a Daily Mail comment column is worth a thread header just because it backs May. Then today a criticism about the ERG not toppling May when they are going around telling their members to take their lettters out....
    Agree with this. At some point it might dawn on remainers that just as the day the ERG topple May never comes, so the day May sells them out never comes.
  • rkrkrkrkrkrk Posts: 8,301
    Foxy said:

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    I see staff recruitment and retention as bigger threats to the NHS than funding. The latter can be found if needed, .

    Maybe one of the consequences of holding down NHS pay for so long has been to make staff retention harder.... Efficiency savings that actually aren't efficient.

    I suspect there is also a negative spiral of the remaining staff being more likely to leave as they are overworked and frustrated.
  • rkrkrkrkrkrk Posts: 8,301
    Pulpstar said:

    I hope Nandy and other sensible Labour figures with leave constituencies back May's deal that she is pushing for, the customs transition territory is essentially the same as Corbyn's customs union; at least till the next General Election - at which point if Labour win they can simply extend it indefinitely.

    It would be absolute madness to risk the possibility of "No deal" for narrow party gain.

    I think the only deal that can pass is one that keeps the UK in the customs union.
  • MikeSmithsonMikeSmithson Posts: 7,382

    Anazina said:

    Just joining the thread.

    The Archer-Aussie Ergers are all push and no piss.

    As I said many days ago.

    The letters remain constant at 47.9

    Did you not hear JRM telling the ERG to not send in letters, and to withdraw any letters that were in?

    They don’t want May out now. She is our best chance of no deal. If she sells out on her latest red lines, that is the time to topple her. If not, they will just vote the deal down.

    Labour are not coming to the rescue of May’s crap deal.

    It is a shame that the editorials of this site have become so unbalanced. It is a bit of a joke now when a Daily Mail comment column is worth a thread header just because it backs May. Then today a criticism about the ERG not toppling May when they are going around telling their members to take their lettters out....
    Poor diddums. If you don't like coming here then try other sites.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 42,728

    Anazina said:

    Just joining the thread.

    The Archer-Aussie Ergers are all push and no piss.

    As I said many days ago.

    The letters remain constant at 47.9

    Did you not hear JRM telling the ERG to not send in letters, and to withdraw any letters that were in?

    They don’t want May out now. She is our best chance of no deal. If she sells out on her latest red lines, that is the time to topple her. If not, they will just vote the deal down.

    Labour are not coming to the rescue of May’s crap deal.

    It is a shame that the editorials of this site have become so unbalanced. It is a bit of a joke now when a Daily Mail comment column is worth a thread header just because it backs May. Then today a criticism about the ERG not toppling May when they are going around telling their members to take their lettters out....
    The DM comment column is very noteworthy because it points to a potentially important shift. If you still believe in newspapers leading more than reflecting the public's view, then the DM changing position is very important.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,301
    Pulpstar said:

    I hope Nandy and other sensible Labour figures with leave constituencies back May's deal that she is pushing for, the customs transition territory is essentially the same as Corbyn's customs union; at least till the next General Election - at which point if Labour win they can simply extend it indefinitely.

    It would be absolute madness to risk the possibility of "No deal" for narrow party gain.

    True.
    It’s even conceivable that the Labour leadership might not strongly discourage it, on the grounds that it might then lead to the Unionists subsequently supporting a VONC ?

  • fitalassfitalass Posts: 4,306
    "A part of the blame for this is the readiness of some parts of the media to take some of the briefings seriously. Surely journalists involved will begin to realise that their reputations are on the line as well. A bit more scepticism is the order of the day. "

    Well said Mike!!
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,301
    After Harris floated her tax policy a few days ago, Cory Booker comes up with an interesting proposal to appeal the progressives in the Democratic party:
    https://slate.com/business/2018/10/cory-booker-economic-plan-baby-bonds-reparations.html
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,413
    Ireland goes to the polls today to elect a new president - Higgins the current incumbent looks a shoo in .

    Theres also a referendum to repeal the laws on blasphemy

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-45979141
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 53,892

    Ireland goes to the polls today to elect a new president - Higgins the current incumbent looks a shoo in .

    Theres also a referendum to repeal the laws on blasphemy

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-45979141

    Another step to a modern country not deferring to the Catholic Church? Wonder what the DUP think of Eire becoming so secular.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,426
    DavidL said:

    Ireland goes to the polls today to elect a new president - Higgins the current incumbent looks a shoo in .

    Theres also a referendum to repeal the laws on blasphemy

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-45979141

    Another step to a modern country not deferring to the Catholic Church? Wonder what the DUP think of Eire becoming so secular.
    The Catholic Church supports the removal of the law, apparently.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,206
    ydoethur said:

    DavidL said:

    Ireland goes to the polls today to elect a new president - Higgins the current incumbent looks a shoo in .

    Theres also a referendum to repeal the laws on blasphemy

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-45979141

    Another step to a modern country not deferring to the Catholic Church? Wonder what the DUP think of Eire becoming so secular.
    The Catholic Church supports the removal of the law, apparently.
    Though sone other faiths maybe less supportive
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