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  • But again I wonder if this is just a Cambridgeshire thing, or if other counties / regions do it?

    If I remember rightly, at Mrs Capitano's school (Oxfordshire), the home visit is before the kid starts school. I'll ask her when she's home.
    Thanks to you and all the respondents. The school starts are staggered, so some are having them before their first day, and some after; it's probably just coincidence that we had ours on his first day.

    Well, it's over; it was about half an hour with one of his class teachers and another teacher. We had a nice chat about what would happen this year (which we had already been told at an evening event), and they watched him play with his toys and went up to see his bedroom.

    All slightly bizarre, but it may have helped. Somehow. ;)
    The teachers need to check you have enough room to park the new Jag.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-45481438
    From 13, I went to a private school as a day pupil. I was waiting for my dad one day, and as other kids were picked up in Range Rovers, Jags or even 'normal' cars, my dad picked me up in a JCB. I had to sit side-on in the cab for the slow seven miles home.

    It certainly added to my reputation in school. It's passed down the generations, as both my sister and brother own JCBs, and a year of so ago my mum said: "You should buy your son a digger."
    I pointer to a Bruder model. "He has one."
    "No," my mum said, "get him a real digger."
    He was three.

    Aside from that, as our garden is tiny, that would really impress my neighbours ...
  • Another wicket 328 for 7
  • Pant's off
  • Pant going for win but likely lost the match now

    But what a great innings and only 20
  • Pant's off

    What's Boris done now?
  • But again I wonder if this is just a Cambridgeshire thing, or if other counties / regions do it?

    If I remember rightly, at Mrs Capitano's school (Oxfordshire), the home visit is before the kid starts school. I'll ask her when she's home.
    Thanks to you and all the respondents. The school starts are staggered, so some are having them before their first day, and some after; it's probably just coincidence that we had ours on his first day.

    Well, it's over; it was about half an hour with one of his class teachers and another teacher. We had a nice chat about what would happen this year (which we had already been told at an evening event), and they watched him play with his toys and went up to see his bedroom.

    All slightly bizarre, but it may have helped. Somehow. ;)
    The teachers need to check you have enough room to park the new Jag.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-45481438
    From 13, I went to a private school as a day pupil. I was waiting for my dad one day, and as other kids were picked up in Range Rovers, Jags or even 'normal' cars, my dad picked me up in a JCB. I had to sit side-on in the cab for the slow seven miles home.

    It certainly added to my reputation in school. It's passed down the generations, as both my sister and brother own JCBs, and a year of so ago my mum said: "You should buy your son a digger."
    I pointer to a Bruder model. "He has one."
    "No," my mum said, "get him a real digger."
    He was three.

    Aside from that, as our garden is tiny, that would really impress my neighbours ...
    That's pretty cool to be fair.
    I got pickled up by a milk float is the best I can claim as we stormed off at about 15mph
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,301

    I see my pep talk to Adil Rashid did the trick.

    New he'd come good once they (and he) went into full one day mode...
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 33,504

    Pant going for win but likely lost the match now

    But what a great innings and only 20

    Indeed. A real find for India, especially if he can improve his ‘keeping. 40 byes in a match is not good, even if he couldn’t help some of them.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,936
    I read somewhere that the Catholic Church has paid out billions of dollars in compensation over the years. Amazing that they have that much money lying around.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,628
    Well, they are well briefed on what their opponents are going to say. I wonder if they have any answer?
  • Commentators have a habit of going on about 464 being well beyond the highest-ever successful test run chase. While true, they should acknowledge that (leaving aside the oddity of England scoring 654-5 in the final innings of a timeless test), at least 10 innings would have been likely to go on to at least that score had the team batting last not had to stop batting either because they won or because the game ran out of time.

    The new ball is critical now.

    Speaking of which why on Earth is Jimmy Anderson bowling with the old ball still when the new ball is available and we only have 19 overs left?
  • RobD said:

    I read somewhere that the Catholic Church has paid out billions of dollars in compensation over the years. Amazing that they have that much money lying around.
    The miracle of 2000 years compound interest.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,220
    RobD said:

    I read somewhere that the Catholic Church has paid out billions of dollars in compensation over the years. Amazing that they have that much money lying around.
    They have plenty of high value stock to be fair.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 33,504
    edited September 2018
    Playing for the draw now, it seems. 19 overs left.
  • Playing for the draw now, it seems. 19 overs left.

    19 overs, new ball available and still tossing up the old one. Makes no sense to me.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 33,504

    Playing for the draw now, it seems. 19 overs left.

    19 overs, new ball available and still tossing up the old one. Makes no sense to me.
    Nor me, although there’s some suggestion that Broad’s carrying an injury.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,936

    RobD said:

    I read somewhere that the Catholic Church has paid out billions of dollars in compensation over the years. Amazing that they have that much money lying around.
    The miracle of 2000 years compound interest.
    Jesus certainly was thrifty. He's built up quite a nest egg over the years.
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 43,362
    Pulpstar said:

    Edinburgh South is a curious one. It looks on the surface like tactical Tories and Lib Dems voting for Murray...
    But the Tories gained votes there, though only 1000 or so.
    So taking the 323k additional Tories and splitting them gives 5489 per constituency - But that's what Murray went up by roughly (+ a few Lab)
    Conclusion:
    Extra voters came out the woodwork for Murray in Edinburgh South, they'd have probably voted Tory elsewhere but decided to vote Labour as the best way to stop the SNP there.
    Existing Tory voters kept voting Tory.

    They are the Tories little helpers
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,220
    RobD said:

    RobD said:

    I read somewhere that the Catholic Church has paid out billions of dollars in compensation over the years. Amazing that they have that much money lying around.
    The miracle of 2000 years compound interest.
    Jesus certainly was thrifty. He's built up quite a nest egg over the years.
    What value the Sistine Chapel ceiling ?
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 53,892
    Looks like India are going to hold on. Remarkable effort with Virat out for a duck and Pujara out cheaply last night.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,936
    Pulpstar said:

    RobD said:

    RobD said:

    I read somewhere that the Catholic Church has paid out billions of dollars in compensation over the years. Amazing that they have that much money lying around.
    The miracle of 2000 years compound interest.
    Jesus certainly was thrifty. He's built up quite a nest egg over the years.
    What value the Sistine Chapel ceiling ?
    That piece of junk? Hmm... I'll give you a tenner for it.
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 43,362
    Alistair said:

    Were those direct SNP->Ruth converts, or was it SNP->StayAtHome on one side, and StayAtHome->Ruth on the other? Or indeed some other more complex churn?

    Stay at home conversion is the most likely explication. In the Holyrood election the year before there was very, very clear differential turnout. SNP vote percentage falling back in constituencies despite losing very few votes (or indeed in some cases gain raw votes) but losing double figure percentage points of vote share.

    SCons are a very motivated voter base.
    More like there are too many morons who cannot see what a nasty bunch they are
  • Found the picture for all future PB Brexit threads

    https://twitter.com/DelMody/status/1039495616638926848

    Looks like they are all trying to avoid making eye contact when Tezzie is looking round the room for a dance partner.
    I think that picture is the moment when Rees-Mogg hypothetically works out how many Hail Marys Boris Johnson would have to say were he to be a practising Roman Catholic
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,220
    DavidL said:

    Looks like India are going to hold on. Remarkable effort with Virat out for a duck and Pujara out cheaply last night.

    Nice effort, completely transparent to be fair :p
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 53,892
    That chart shows as well as any I have seen what Ruth achieved in Scotland whilst May lost seats in England. An absolutely incredible performance.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 53,892
    Pulpstar said:

    DavidL said:

    Looks like India are going to hold on. Remarkable effort with Virat out for a duck and Pujara out cheaply last night.

    Nice effort, completely transparent to be fair :p
    Nothing subtle about me.
  • malcolmg said:

    Alistair said:

    Were those direct SNP->Ruth converts, or was it SNP->StayAtHome on one side, and StayAtHome->Ruth on the other? Or indeed some other more complex churn?

    Stay at home conversion is the most likely explication. In the Holyrood election the year before there was very, very clear differential turnout. SNP vote percentage falling back in constituencies despite losing very few votes (or indeed in some cases gain raw votes) but losing double figure percentage points of vote share.

    SCons are a very motivated voter base.
    More like there are too many morons who cannot see what a nasty bunch they are
    That is a classic coming from a nationalist. Was it you or one of your Nat pals on here that conveniently forget your party's Nazi-sympathising past? Heil Salmond
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 43,362
    DavidL said:

    That chart shows as well as any I have seen what Ruth achieved in Scotland whilst May lost seats in England. An absolutely incredible performance.

    It was all down to pact with the other pygmy parties David , anybody wanting to vote against SNP had to hold their nose and take the least bad option. Only good thing is the thick Labour idiots getting stiffed because of it.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 33,504
    Sharma gone.
  • DavidL said:

    That chart shows as well as any I have seen what Ruth achieved in Scotland whilst May lost seats in England. An absolutely incredible performance.

    It was indeed. She saved us from a Corbyn government propped up by the Nats
  • 8 down. Does Anderson still need 1 more to overtake McGrath?
  • 8 down. Does Anderson still need 1 more to overtake McGrath?

    Yes, Curran bowled
  • eekeek Posts: 28,412
    edited September 2018
    malcolmg said:

    DavidL said:

    That chart shows as well as any I have seen what Ruth achieved in Scotland whilst May lost seats in England. An absolutely incredible performance.

    It was all down to pact with the other pygmy parties David , anybody wanting to vote against SNP had to hold their nose and take the least bad option. Only good thing is the thick Labour idiots getting stiffed because of it.
    You are aware that in a FPTP system most people don't vote for the party they support, their vote for the one they currently hate least...

    Or in the case of the SNP 2017 none as even the SNP had failed to delivery whatever those missing voters wanted...
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 33,504
    Last 15 overs to go!
  • 9 down
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 33,504
    10, Jack left now. Neither have good batting records.
  • Curran nailed on for player of the series despite being dropped midway.....
  • If there is any time left does the match end when the overs are bowled or do we get some more with 9 down? Assuming we don't run out of time or have bad light or get the 10th first.

    I don't think I've ever seen more than the "minimum overs remaining" being bowled.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 33,504

    If there is any time left does the match end when the overs are bowled or do we get some more with 9 down? Assuming we don't run out of time or have bad light or get the 10th first.

    I don't think I've ever seen more than the "minimum overs remaining" being bowled.

    No, only 13 (maybe 14) left.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,220
    Lol, Shami driving at the ball.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 33,504
    All over now. Anderson gets the last one!
  • Anderson does it

    What an achievement
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,628
    Well, you won't get a much better dead rubber than that!
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,220
    Man of the match, Cook; Man of the series Curran ?
  • If there is any time left does the match end when the overs are bowled or do we get some more with 9 down? Assuming we don't run out of time or have bad light or get the 10th first.

    I don't think I've ever seen more than the "minimum overs remaining" being bowled.

    No, only 13 (maybe 14) left.
    Why do they call it minimum if it is the maximum then? Never understood that.
  • So impressed by the sportsmanship shown by the Indian team
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,220
    edited September 2018

    If there is any time left does the match end when the overs are bowled or do we get some more with 9 down? Assuming we don't run out of time or have bad light or get the 10th first.

    I don't think I've ever seen more than the "minimum overs remaining" being bowled.

    No, only 13 (maybe 14) left.
    Why do they call it minimum if it is the maximum then? Never understood that.
    It's not the maximum, and it's not the minimum.
    If England bowled quickly then they can bowl more overs than 15 by 18:20 (Unlikely but with spinners could have been possible)
    If they bowled really slowly then the match has to finish by 18:30.
  • If there is any time left does the match end when the overs are bowled or do we get some more with 9 down? Assuming we don't run out of time or have bad light or get the 10th first.

    I don't think I've ever seen more than the "minimum overs remaining" being bowled.

    No, only 13 (maybe 14) left.
    Why do they call it minimum if it is the maximum then? Never understood that.
    No it is a minimum of 15 overs.

    The rules say it either a minimum of 15 overs or one hour, whichever is later.

    So it is possible to bowl more than 15 overs in the last hour.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited September 2018
    I think I would have preferred an Indian win on this occasion. For a team to score 464 would gave been a magnificent performance.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,220

    If there is any time left does the match end when the overs are bowled or do we get some more with 9 down? Assuming we don't run out of time or have bad light or get the 10th first.

    I don't think I've ever seen more than the "minimum overs remaining" being bowled.

    No, only 13 (maybe 14) left.
    Why do they call it minimum if it is the maximum then? Never understood that.
    No it is a minimum of 15 overs.

    The rules say it either a minimum of 15 overs or one hour, whichever is later.

    So it is possible to bowl more than 15 overs in the last hour.
    Yes but if it gets to 18:30 then that is the end of the match too. So it isn't a minimum.
  • Pulpstar said:

    If there is any time left does the match end when the overs are bowled or do we get some more with 9 down? Assuming we don't run out of time or have bad light or get the 10th first.

    I don't think I've ever seen more than the "minimum overs remaining" being bowled.

    No, only 13 (maybe 14) left.
    Why do they call it minimum if it is the maximum then? Never understood that.
    No it is a minimum of 15 overs.

    The rules say it either a minimum of 15 overs or one hour, whichever is later.

    So it is possible to bowl more than 15 overs in the last hour.
    Yes but if it gets to 18:30 then that is the end of the match too. So it isn't a minimum.
    Not if 15 overs haven't been bowled.
  • AndyJS said:

    I think I would have preferred an Indian win on this occasion. For a team to score 464 would gave been a magnificent performance.

    It would.

    But it is a pretty impressive England performance overall. Yes, there have been some major problems - but they have pulled together when it mattered. And beaten the best team in the world 4-1. I don't think anyone would have predicted that a couple of months ago.

    Cook going out on a high. Anderson achieving his goal of becoming the most successful pace bowler in history.

    We were saved by our lower order players - but runs are runs at the end of the day. It was a team playing together and achieving together.
  • Remember Karachi 2000.
  • This photo looks destined to endure as a symbol of the failure of Brexit. Boris must be so happy he decided to turn up to support his ERG friends...

    https://twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/1039552054233051136
  • This photo looks destined to endure as a symbol of the failure of Brexit. Boris must be so happy he decided to turn up to support his ERG friends...

    https://twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/1039552054233051136

    It reminded me of this

    image
  • Although India didn't win, if anyone made the call at 501, that was a great trading suggestion. I know others backed at long (but shorter than 501) odds. Was AFK when that happened, though.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,176

    Remember Karachi 2000.

    That was fixed wasn't it?
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,414

    AndyJS said:

    I think I would have preferred an Indian win on this occasion. For a team to score 464 would gave been a magnificent performance.

    It would.

    But it is a pretty impressive England performance overall. Yes, there have been some major problems - but they have pulled together when it mattered. And beaten the best team in the world 4-1. I don't think anyone would have predicted that a couple of months ago.

    Cook going out on a high. Anderson achieving his goal of becoming the most successful pace bowler in history.

    We were saved by our lower order players - but runs are runs at the end of the day. It was a team playing together and achieving together.
    Tbf though, winning 5 out of 5 tosses helped. Would have been different had India won all 5.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,700
    edited September 2018
    tlg86 said:

    Remember Karachi 2000.

    That was fixed wasn't it?
    I hope not.

    One of my enduring cricketing memories watching England win in darkness.
  • dixiedean said:

    AndyJS said:

    I think I would have preferred an Indian win on this occasion. For a team to score 464 would gave been a magnificent performance.

    It would.

    But it is a pretty impressive England performance overall. Yes, there have been some major problems - but they have pulled together when it mattered. And beaten the best team in the world 4-1. I don't think anyone would have predicted that a couple of months ago.

    Cook going out on a high. Anderson achieving his goal of becoming the most successful pace bowler in history.

    We were saved by our lower order players - but runs are runs at the end of the day. It was a team playing together and achieving together.
    Tbf though, winning 5 out of 5 tosses helped. Would have been different had India won all 5.
    That is certainly an advantage - but you still have to play to win. And there were plenty of times when we were heading towards disaster and still pulled it off.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,176

    tlg86 said:

    Remember Karachi 2000.

    That was fixed wasn't it?
    I hope not.

    One of my enduring cricketing memories watching England win in darkness.
    Were you there? I doubt it was fixed - certainly the time wasting suggested the Pakistanis didn't want to lose.
  • AnorakAnorak Posts: 6,621
    Evisceration.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/brexit-jacob-reesmogg-steve-baker-economists-for-free-trade-a8533021.html

    Steve Baker, David Davis, Jacob Rees-Mogg, Bill Cash, Iain Duncan Smith and every other person you would want nowhere near government was already there. The collective noun for said people is not economists. According to the latest Independent style guide the correct term is made up of at least twenty five per cent asterisks ... ... ...

    ... ... ... There is not a single figure in the government, in the Treasury, or in the economics analysis department of any major bank or investment firm who considers this to be anything less than deranged.
  • Just caught the interviews the SYP PCC done with Nick Ferrari and Julia HB.
    Jesus wept, the guy is utterly hopeless. I thought Shaun Wright was bad enough, but this takes up to a new level.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 42,992
    Could they be praying?
  • tlg86 said:

    tlg86 said:

    Remember Karachi 2000.

    That was fixed wasn't it?
    I hope not.

    One of my enduring cricketing memories watching England win in darkness.
    Were you there? I doubt it was fixed - certainly the time wasting suggested the Pakistanis didn't want to lose.
    I thought it was reminiscent of the West Indies against England in Trinidad in 1990.

    Both home sides slowed the over rate down to an embarrassing level to avoid defeat.

    Difference was Steve Bucknor wasn't having any of it.
  • Mr. Pubgoer, but non-crimes will continue if we don't report them to the police... do you want feelings to be hurt?
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453

    This photo looks destined to endure as a symbol of the failure of Brexit. Boris must be so happy he decided to turn up to support his ERG friends...

    https://twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/1039552054233051136

    Even the slogan is mocking them

    From Fear to Prospero perhaps?

    Poor worm, thou art infected!
    This visitation shows it.
  • Anorak said:

    Evisceration.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/brexit-jacob-reesmogg-steve-baker-economists-for-free-trade-a8533021.html

    Steve Baker, David Davis, Jacob Rees-Mogg, Bill Cash, Iain Duncan Smith and every other person you would want nowhere near government was already there. The collective noun for said people is not economists. According to the latest Independent style guide the correct term is made up of at least twenty five per cent asterisks ... ... ...

    ... ... ... There is not a single figure in the government, in the Treasury, or in the economics analysis department of any major bank or investment firm who considers this to be anything less than deranged.

    I wonder what the correct collective noun should be? An ignorance of Brexiteers, or perhaps a delusion of Brexiteers.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,301
    dixiedean said:

    AndyJS said:

    I think I would have preferred an Indian win on this occasion. For a team to score 464 would gave been a magnificent performance.

    It would.

    But it is a pretty impressive England performance overall. Yes, there have been some major problems - but they have pulled together when it mattered. And beaten the best team in the world 4-1. I don't think anyone would have predicted that a couple of months ago.

    Cook going out on a high. Anderson achieving his goal of becoming the most successful pace bowler in history.

    We were saved by our lower order players - but runs are runs at the end of the day. It was a team playing together and achieving together.
    Tbf though, winning 5 out of 5 tosses helped. Would have been different had India won all 5.
    Root did try to even things up with some slightly eccentric decisions on whether to bowl or bat first.

  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,301

    This photo looks destined to endure as a symbol of the failure of Brexit. Boris must be so happy he decided to turn up to support his ERG friends...

    https://twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/1039552054233051136

    Does that poster say Project Prospero ?
    Definitely some magical thinking going on.

  • AnorakAnorak Posts: 6,621

    Anorak said:

    Evisceration.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/brexit-jacob-reesmogg-steve-baker-economists-for-free-trade-a8533021.html

    Steve Baker, David Davis, Jacob Rees-Mogg, Bill Cash, Iain Duncan Smith and every other person you would want nowhere near government was already there. The collective noun for said people is not economists. According to the latest Independent style guide the correct term is made up of at least twenty five per cent asterisks ... ... ...

    ... ... ... There is not a single figure in the government, in the Treasury, or in the economics analysis department of any major bank or investment firm who considers this to be anything less than deranged.

    I wonder what the correct collective noun should be? An ignorance of Brexiteers, or perhaps a delusion of Brexiteers.
    A pangloss of Brexiteers.

    [Although given that picture, perhaps a wretchedness of Brexiteers.]
  • Anorak said:

    Evisceration.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/brexit-jacob-reesmogg-steve-baker-economists-for-free-trade-a8533021.html

    Steve Baker, David Davis, Jacob Rees-Mogg, Bill Cash, Iain Duncan Smith and every other person you would want nowhere near government was already there. The collective noun for said people is not economists. According to the latest Independent style guide the correct term is made up of at least twenty five per cent asterisks ... ... ...

    ... ... ... There is not a single figure in the government, in the Treasury, or in the economics analysis department of any major bank or investment firm who considers this to be anything less than deranged.

    I wonder what the correct collective noun should be? An ignorance of Brexiteers, or perhaps a delusion of Brexiteers.
    A Freedom of Brexiteers.
  • Mr. Pubgoer, but non-crimes will continue if we don't report them to the police... do you want feelings to be hurt?

    Glad I don't live in South Yorkshire to be honest.
    To be fair our PCC isn't much better, just blown £100k on a failed vanity project to merge fire stations with Police stations. And I was one of the rocking 15% of Hertfordshire residents that turned out to vote the first time for them.
  • AnorakAnorak Posts: 6,621

    A Freedom of Brexiteers.

    Oh Sandy, you mad, bad patriot, you! I'm welling up. *sniff*
  • AnorakAnorak Posts: 6,621

    Mr. Pubgoer, but non-crimes will continue if we don't report them to the police... do you want feelings to be hurt?

    Glad I don't live in South Yorkshire to be honest.
    To be fair our PCC isn't much better, just blown £100k on a failed vanity project to merge fire stations with Police stations. And I was one of the rocking 15% of Hertfordshire residents that turned out to vote the first time for them.
    A mixture of Police Engines and Fire Cars, I assume.
  • AnazinaAnazina Posts: 3,487
    Pulpstar said:

    If there is any time left does the match end when the overs are bowled or do we get some more with 9 down? Assuming we don't run out of time or have bad light or get the 10th first.

    I don't think I've ever seen more than the "minimum overs remaining" being bowled.

    No, only 13 (maybe 14) left.
    Why do they call it minimum if it is the maximum then? Never understood that.
    No it is a minimum of 15 overs.

    The rules say it either a minimum of 15 overs or one hour, whichever is later.

    So it is possible to bowl more than 15 overs in the last hour.
    Yes but if it gets to 18:30 then that is the end of the match too. So it isn't a minimum.
    The 6.30pm rule is bonkers and needs to go. It’s perfectly possible to play for at least another hour during most of the summer.
  • Anorak said:

    Anorak said:

    Evisceration.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/brexit-jacob-reesmogg-steve-baker-economists-for-free-trade-a8533021.html

    Steve Baker, David Davis, Jacob Rees-Mogg, Bill Cash, Iain Duncan Smith and every other person you would want nowhere near government was already there. The collective noun for said people is not economists. According to the latest Independent style guide the correct term is made up of at least twenty five per cent asterisks ... ... ...

    ... ... ... There is not a single figure in the government, in the Treasury, or in the economics analysis department of any major bank or investment firm who considers this to be anything less than deranged.

    I wonder what the correct collective noun should be? An ignorance of Brexiteers, or perhaps a delusion of Brexiteers.
    A pangloss of Brexiteers.

    [Although given that picture, perhaps a wretchedness of Brexiteers.]
    A Pyrrhus of Brexiteers.
  • Anorak said:

    Mr. Pubgoer, but non-crimes will continue if we don't report them to the police... do you want feelings to be hurt?

    Glad I don't live in South Yorkshire to be honest.
    To be fair our PCC isn't much better, just blown £100k on a failed vanity project to merge fire stations with Police stations. And I was one of the rocking 15% of Hertfordshire residents that turned out to vote the first time for them.
    A mixture of Police Engines and Fire Cars, I assume.
    It's not happening, so just money pissed up the wall
  • StereotomyStereotomy Posts: 4,092
    TOPPING said:

    Found the picture for all future PB Brexit threads

    https://twitter.com/DelMody/status/1039495616638926848

    Looks like they are all trying to avoid making eye contact when Tezzie is looking round the room for a dance partner.
    Tezza's Strictly mastertweet has associated that dancing issue with a positive image of her in a good way for ever more.
    The dancing thing was always a positive. It showed her acting relaxed and human in public.
  • TOPPING said:

    Found the picture for all future PB Brexit threads

    https://twitter.com/DelMody/status/1039495616638926848

    Looks like they are all trying to avoid making eye contact when Tezzie is looking round the room for a dance partner.
    Tezza's Strictly mastertweet has associated that dancing issue with a positive image of her in a good way for ever more.
    The dancing thing was always a positive. It showed her acting relaxed and human in public.
    The real significance of the dancing is not that it *showed* the PM in a positive light but that the whole tour taught her to interact with people who aren't card-carrying Conservative activists in a sealed-off factory. This will come in very handy when she leads the party into the next election.
  • AnorakAnorak Posts: 6,621
    If he actually managed to deliver that without rioting on the streets, I'd forgive him a great deal. I'd still think he was a scheming, self-serving, untrustworthy toss-pot, mind.
  • An umbrage of Leavers.
  • ralphmalphralphmalph Posts: 2,201
    A Gnashnab of remainers.
  • AnorakAnorak Posts: 6,621

    An umbrage of Leavers.

    No, no, I have it now.

    A gammon of Leavers.

    *drops mic*
  • StereotomyStereotomy Posts: 4,092

    TOPPING said:

    Found the picture for all future PB Brexit threads

    https://twitter.com/DelMody/status/1039495616638926848

    Looks like they are all trying to avoid making eye contact when Tezzie is looking round the room for a dance partner.
    Tezza's Strictly mastertweet has associated that dancing issue with a positive image of her in a good way for ever more.
    The dancing thing was always a positive. It showed her acting relaxed and human in public.
    The real significance of the dancing is not that it *showed* the PM in a positive light but that the whole tour taught her to interact with people who aren't card-carrying Conservative activists in a sealed-off factory. This will come in very handy when she leads the party into the next election.
    Really? I don't think the problem was that she chose not to interact with people, it's that she knew she'd be terrible at it. Maybe the dancing was the first sign of a more generally confident and charismatic public persona but, er, I'll believe it when I see it
  • alex.alex. Posts: 4,658
    edited September 2018
    Anazina said:

    Pulpstar said:

    If there is any time left does the match end when the overs are bowled or do we get some more with 9 down? Assuming we don't run out of time or have bad light or get the 10th first.

    I don't think I've ever seen more than the "minimum overs remaining" being bowled.

    No, only 13 (maybe 14) left.
    Why do they call it minimum if it is the maximum then? Never understood that.
    No it is a minimum of 15 overs.

    The rules say it either a minimum of 15 overs or one hour, whichever is later.

    So it is possible to bowl more than 15 overs in the last hour.
    Yes but if it gets to 18:30 then that is the end of the match too. So it isn't a minimum.
    The 6.30pm rule is bonkers and needs to go. It’s perfectly possible to play for at least another hour during most of the summer.
    This is partly based on a misapprehension. There is not, and never has been, a "6.30pm cutoff" on the final day. Bad light and weather permitting, all the overs scheduled on the final day must be bowled (barring the game being won by that point obviously).

    The only time a "cutoff" applies on the final day is if the players are off the field due to bad light/rain after a certain point.

  • murali_smurali_s Posts: 3,067
    dixiedean said:

    AndyJS said:

    I think I would have preferred an Indian win on this occasion. For a team to score 464 would gave been a magnificent performance.

    It would.

    But it is a pretty impressive England performance overall. Yes, there have been some major problems - but they have pulled together when it mattered. And beaten the best team in the world 4-1. I don't think anyone would have predicted that a couple of months ago.

    Cook going out on a high. Anderson achieving his goal of becoming the most successful pace bowler in history.

    We were saved by our lower order players - but runs are runs at the end of the day. It was a team playing together and achieving together.
    Tbf though, winning 5 out of 5 tosses helped. Would have been different had India won all 5.
    Tosses were very crucial even though Joe Root made a blunder at Trent Bridge. Need to take the toss out of the game or at least make it fairer in my opinion.

    The series was competitive but showed that both sides are very flawed.

    If India are to prove their number one status - they have to win in South Africa, England and Australia. They have flunked the South Africa and England missions and likely to fail in Australia..

    England still great at home and rubbish away from home. At least this series was competitive - when England played in India they were murdered.

  • NEW THREAD

  • alex.alex. Posts: 4,658
    murali_s said:

    dixiedean said:

    AndyJS said:

    I think I would have preferred an Indian win on this occasion. For a team to score 464 would gave been a magnificent performance.

    It would.

    But it is a pretty impressive England performance overall. Yes, there have been some major problems - but they have pulled together when it mattered. And beaten the best team in the world 4-1. I don't think anyone would have predicted that a couple of months ago.

    Cook going out on a high. Anderson achieving his goal of becoming the most successful pace bowler in history.

    We were saved by our lower order players - but runs are runs at the end of the day. It was a team playing together and achieving together.
    Tbf though, winning 5 out of 5 tosses helped. Would have been different had India won all 5.
    Tosses were very crucial even though Joe Root made a blunder at Trent Bridge. Need to take the toss out of the game or at least make it fairer in my opinion.

    The series was competitive but showed that both sides are very flawed.

    If India are to prove their number one status - they have to win in South Africa, England and Australia. They have flunked the South Africa and England missions and likely to fail in Australia..

    England still great at home and rubbish away from home. At least this series was competitive - when England played in India they were murdered.

    Don't really think the toss had much relevance in either the 1st or 4th tests. In both India had their chances and let England off the hook by failing to capitalise on their strong positions.

    What was great about this series was it was the first in a long time where most of the tests didn't seem to progress in a linear manner once one team got on top.

  • Anorak said:

    An umbrage of Leavers.

    No, no, I have it now.

    A gammon of Leavers.

    *drops mic*
    I think it would sound better reversed with a Leaver as a unit of measurement. “I’ll have a Leaver of your best gammon please.”
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,237

    TOPPING said:

    Found the picture for all future PB Brexit threads

    https://twitter.com/DelMody/status/1039495616638926848

    Looks like they are all trying to avoid making eye contact when Tezzie is looking round the room for a dance partner.
    Tezza's Strictly mastertweet has associated that dancing issue with a positive image of her in a good way for ever more.
    The dancing thing was always a positive. It showed her acting relaxed and human in public.
    The real significance of the dancing is not that it *showed* the PM in a positive light but that the whole tour taught her to interact with people who aren't card-carrying Conservative activists in a sealed-off factory. This will come in very handy when she leads the party into the next election. is no longer Prime Minister.
    FTFY
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