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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,472

    tlg86 said:

    I rarely click on remainer shit like that, but it's interesting that when it comes to it, the logical problems would be us to them, rather than them to us. Unless we're going to starve ourselves by refusing to buy imported food.

    That's not to say the us to them issues aren't serious - they are - I just think it's interesting that remainers have felt the need to play the "food shortage" card. I think they're getting desperate.
    Imports and exports use the same ports and roads and gridlock is gridlock.
    And so they will find different ports and roads, and supply sources and routes.

    The free market is a wonderful thing.

    The most likely effect is a price increase. But it’s absolute bollocks to say there will be food shortages that simply will never happen.
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,472
    MaxPB said:

    Again, I think the remainers are onto a loser here with the hyperbole surrounding rationing or whatever they want to call it. Just like their claims that voting leave would result in a prolonged recession were proven to be complete shit, so will these claims. In the event of a no deal brexit if these food shortages don't materialise then they will have even less credibility to push for a return into the EU. As I said a few days ago, it could end up being a very tough question for the leave side to answer, however, it would take some amount of skill from the remainers to do that. Instead they've gone completely over the top, made it seem ridiculous and no one believes them.

    The issues with running a campaign on twatter, I guess.

    The ultra-Remain camp have learnt nothing and forgotten nothing over the last two years.
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    AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    SeanT said:

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    stodge said:

    Morning all :)

    As I said rdure.

    If there are food shortages, energy supply issues, factory closures, lorry parks etc etc., then the Tories will be out of power for a generation come the next GE. It is Black Wednesday redux.
    This is my fear, which is why I am very very reluctantly moving towards a 2nd vote (even though that is fiendishly difficult, in itself).

    Three options, voting by STV:

    1 Remain,
    2 EEA-EFTA
    3 No Deal Hard Brexit.

    And what does say voting to Remain, with 40% of the vote, do for democracy? It would be a shit-fest.....
    But nothing compared to ten years of life under Jeremy Corbyn PM, and his even more left wing successor.
    A big problem is that we might get Corbyn anyway, regardless of how Brexit goes. In America a sense of disenchantment with the status quo led to Trump and (IMO) an oncoming disaster. It could be that a similar sense of disenchantment leads to a Corbynite government and an oncoming disaster.

    In fact, it may have been too late to stop a Corbynite government even before the referendum ...
    Trump has not been a disaster (unless you care about America's *image* in the world, but it was never that great anyway). Economically he has done better than Obama, so far
    The economy Trump is benefiting from is Obama's legacy. In 2-3 years we'll begin to see what Trumps' impact is.



    Bollocks. He's lowered corporation tax and is forcing US companies to reshore. America is, very modestly, booming as a result. Trump is good for big biz. Bad for Mexican immigrants and angsty liberals. That's why his ratings have recovered.
    Economically he has done better than Obama? Given that growth is lower under Trump than Obama that seems a bold claim.
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