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The ‘gammon’ insult is fuelled by class hatred. It expresses the visceral contempt felt by bourgeois Corbynistas for people further down the social ladder. We now know how thoroughly Labour has been captured by a new elite.
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https://twitter.com/KathyBurke/status/995960322543554560
Winning huge majorities in the inner cities is not enough to get Corbyn to No 10
It's probably too subtle for me anyway.
Or boring.
The Silly Season is officially launched by this storm in a teacup.
https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2018/05/new-left-wing-insult-gammon-racist-towards-white-men
Note, you need to be both.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-44116340
'Incendiary weapons, incendiary devices or incendiary bombs are weapons designed to start fires or destroy sensitive equipment using fire, that use materials such as napalm, thermite, magnesium powder, chlorine trifluoride, or white phosphorus.'
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incendiary_device
Israeli troops may have been over zealous in their response but the rioters were pretty violent too
Megan's Father may not attend the wedding apparently
I will keep an eye on PB but there is time for Brexit to be fixed and the Nation to come together over the next four weeks isn't there and I will look forward to the new topics to discuss on my return.
Be nice to one another and while I have no idea what this talk about 'gammon' is I would expect I may have some on our cruise
Whether its ‘Deplorables’ or ‘Gammon’ Socialists will always try to put a label on people, and not see them as unique individuals, with their own individual characteristics: tastes, preferences, wants and desires, as well as their own Skiles, talents, and experiences.
I'm more a fan of political insults which I feel can work on a non partisan basis, if we must have them at all. Eg, snowflake - predominantly used against the left, but thing thing it is complaining about seems like it would work equally well against someone on the right. If they only go one way then it just feels a little sadder, since people will take it so much more seriously. That is not difficult to achieve, in fairness. Much overhyped, Turkey.
Doubt anyone/many outside of political twitter really cares about this Gammon thing. Certainly many of those offended today somehow managed to be oblivious to it being in use for nearly a whole year now. This is despite being the same people who issue a running commentary on the various issues they have with Corbynistas and Remainers since 2015/16.
It reminds me of just after Trump was elected (dark times indeed) some of my favourite youtube channels were doing a thing where they'd oh so subtly reference the event without directly stating it, along with a comment about how perhaps something really bad has happened and their viewers would like to escape all that via whatever the video was about. I felt like if they were so shocked and shaken at Trump's win (a not uncommon reaction!) and clearly felt their fans would be too, why be all cutesy about it, it just made it seem weird to me.
https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/996062849108725760
For all that I think the standard rule applies here, about how would people react if it were their opponents making the same sort of defence of issue x - I have zero doubt someone like Owen Jones would be apoplectic about it, but that's because he's such a partisan . And I think we know many who are outraged would not be so outraged if the tables were turned. It's not so outrageous as to cross partisan lines much.
https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/mar/01/bacon-cancer-processed-meats-nitrates-nitrites-sausages
A 'Hamas Activist' is the first to be buried
My family also prefer chicken, lamb and pork as well. We used to also like mutton as well, but we’ve gone off it in recent years.
I'm certainly not one to defend him, but he's not been harmed by far worse allegations.
What's the difference between Australia and Israel? Is it Australia are descended from convicts and he believes in rehabilitation?
According to Gallup last year 71% of Americans have a favourable view of Israel, rising to 81% amongst Republicans. Netanyahu has a +19% positive rating
http://news.gallup.com/poll/203954/israel-maintains-positive-image.aspx?g_source=link_NEWSV9&g_medium=TOPIC&g_campaign=item_&g_content=Israel%20Maintains%20Positive%20Image%20in%20U.S.
62% of Americans sympathise more with the Israelis than the Palestinians with just 19% sympathising more with the Palestinians. Support for a Palestinian state is almost tied 45% to 42%
http://news.gallup.com/poll/203900/americans-tepid-palestinian-statehood.aspx
My initial expectations were that it would be a complete clusterfuck and my current assessment is several rungs worse.
Here's my contribution to humour: They should make a dating app for people with STDs. It would be called Tender.
"I expected Brexit to be full of sunlit uplands and I think they are in sight."
In recent years Gallup has noted that many Americans have moved from “no preference” into the pro-Israeli column. Even when support for Israel dips, as occurred during Operation Protective Edge (July 8-August 26, 2014), when the NBC/WSJ and Pew polls found a decline in support to 46% and 51%, respectively, support for the Palestinians does not increase (it was 14% in both polls). Moreover, support for Israel inevitably bounces back.
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/american-public-opinion-toward-israel-an-overview
Those who do take their side in the Middle East conflict probably vote Labour already anyway and Labour could lose even more Jewish votes if they condemned their side.
It's best to keep well out of it, it's not much to do with Britain anymore.
The big failure of the Gov't thus far is in its preparation for the negotiations though.
The Gov't should have had a clear aim for its relationship with Europe, with the Nicky Morgans on one side and the Rees Moggs on the other being able to maintain a bit of discipline whilst the negotiations were on.
'In 2015, Israel's favorability ranking trailed only Canada, Great Britain, Germany, Japan, France and India. The Palestinian Authority in 2015 was rated just above Pakistan (15%), Iraq (15%), Afghanistan (14%), Syria (14%), Iran (11%) and North Korea (9%) as the least popular countries.'
http://www.brin.ac.uk/2017/religious-affiliation-and-party-choice-at-the-2017-general-election/
Beyond a few Sanders supporters not many Democrats would vote for Corbyn and beyond a few Moggites not many Tories would vote for Trump
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As reported in 2015, opinion polls taken in India showed 70% and above of respondents had "favorable views of Israel."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India–Israel_relations
Or more succinctly "Believes Jews are allowed to defend themselves, not die quietly like good Jews have been expected to for the last two thousand years".
May well bring the Palestinians to negotiations when they discover their only friends are Iran, Jezza and the corpse of the EU.