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Not a happy afternoon among Labour MPs – suggestions one of them will put down a motion backing the govt's position explicitly https://t.co/7wkEfa48ep
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The moderates should grow some and sit as “Real Labour” and a subscription set up for their support. I’d contribute.
What are OGH’s view on pineapple pizza anyway? I think we deserve to know!
Moderate Lab MPs might not be willing to resign over this today - but does their reaction suggest that if Corbyn tried to do crazy stuff like say nationalisation without compensation then they might prevent such stuff going through?
They won't though.
*I know it never was. The 'still' refers to the 'think'.
Big risk, though. And Labour types love their branding far more than the Conservatives do theirs. Can't see it happening. They should've done it last parliament.
Just a thought
Can I also thank viewcode and co for the late night coverage of the Pennsylvania election last night? I couldn't post on my phone but was very insightful and ahead of the game I could see elsewhere.
Could be a useful attribute for some meetings.
If they resign the whip they will 100% get deselected.
If they sit tight, a few might get deselected but vast majority won't - so they'll be in the next Parliament and provide crucial safety net for the country if Corbyn gets small majority.
Which would be fun....
https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/03/gavin-williamson-was-right-to-be-paranoid-about-russia/
The underlying reason was because we have never been on the same page as them, we never wanted to integrate into the political project.
Look at it this way, the UK is the most in favour of free trade and we have the biggest financial services sector in the whole EU, yet every time the commissioner was chosen, the EU went for someone specifically hostile to our interests.
Last time in an even bigger insult than usual we got a junior position, the second largest economy in the wholr bloc and we get a junior commissioner.
As I said, we had no influence and no friends. This situation won't change after we leave.
The over-riding point is that it is absolutely vital that the likes of Umunna, Kendall, Cooper, Leslie, Woodcock etc are in the next Parliament.
The entire future of the country might depend upon it.
You also seem to have overlooked the fact that the Commissioner for Financial Services at the time of the referendum was British - Jonathan Hill - which undermines your whole argument.
One I didn’t realise existed until I started choosing them.
Someone once complained about my choice to Mike.
Who knew that a picture of Ed Miliband eating a bacon sarnie could offend so many people.
Proper bacon sarnies have tomato sauce.
In terms of the specifics I'm personally worried about Corbyn doing a whole pile of stuff not in the Lab manifesto whereas in my view May isn't doing major stuff not in the Con manifesto.
Whether that fear is unjustified well who knows - but my view is that IF Corbyn tries to remove Bank of England independence, go on a massive money printing exercise and impose exchange controls then Umunna, Kendall, Cooper, Leslie, Woodcock etc would stop him.
So I want them there as insurance.
"Nerve agent case widens to Dorset
A recovery vehicle used to tow Sergei Skripal's car is being removed by police and military in Gillingham, Dorset."
Good evening, everybody.
Ed Miliband was clearly thinking "Oh no, they forgot the tomato sauce!" and, entirely understandably, pulled a disapproving face.
I'm glad we finally cleared that up.
Mr. rpjs, I tried teaching myself Russian once. I remain uncertain whether I'm a poor student or a poor teacher
Edited extra bit: good evening, Miss JGP.
A fairly predictable and limited response from the Prime Minister. We'll go to the World Cup even if Prince William doesn't and I suspect most people will watch it and cheer England on as much as ever. Presumably if it's a Russia vs Germany final we'll all have to find something else to do.
It's perfectly reasonable to argue defence resources could be better spent on the NCSC than on additional nuclear missiles if it's our belief a cyber attack is more probable than a nuclear attack. I also suspect Russian systems are as vulnerable as those of the West to cyber attack and we have the capability but don't show it off.
As for Labour, Corbyn is at least consistent for all most people think he's wrong. At some point (perhaps when we go looking for a favourable trade deal), we'll need to mend fences with Moscow once the memory and the indignation fades.
“Zero influence.”
That’s Brexitism in a nutshell. Defeatist, isolationist, if not nihilistic. And what makes you think that? As I said, it’s borne of a perverted nostalgia for another, presumably Britain-led, Union.
Lots more to come on this over the next weeks and months
Yes, fences will be mended, just as they are when we have wars with people as well. There's stages to go through, unless one disputes the core facts as presented from our intelligence services though.
It directly contradicts Max’s claim that, on Finance, every Commissioner appointment was hostile to our interests.
Perhaps, to be charitable, Max was actually including Jonathan Hill in that!
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Labour MP tells @BethRigby they have zero confidence in Jeremy Corbyn over national security. In which case they have an obligation to resign the Labour-whip. National security is the primary responsibility of any government or opposition.
I don't know enough to say that Holmes was onto something or not; but it is clear that if she had, it did not work in practice.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theranos
If they are exaggerating how little confidence in him they have on the issue, then they should still resign the labour whip for making such a massive accusation which they don't even really believe.
I'm interested (because I'm sad that way) as to how the EU proceeds to enforce the entry conditions for the various Euro holdouts. Other than that, I'm Brexited out for today.
In fact, I also said that if we did not punish Assad for their use, we'd see them used again in other arenas. Which seemed obvious at the time, and sadly has been proved correct.
That's gotta hurt.
Are you watching, Russki oligarchs?
And where did all the money go? A $0.5k fine for a $700m fraud?!? And the company is still going?! Odd. I will have to read more later.
https://twitter.com/georgegalloway/status/973702058426683395
Is Galloway back inLabour yet?