Newport on North Devon (Con defence) Result: Con 373 (37% -3% on last time), Lab 83 (8%, no candidate last time) Lib Dem 390 (39% +7% on last time), Green 159 (16% -12% on last time) Liberal Democrat GAIN from Conservative with a majority of 17 (2%) on a swing of 5% from Con to Lib Dem
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It sounds like you're not enjoying PB, after all can't you go around accusing foxinsoxuk of xyz anymore and all my posts have touch a nerve with you, and once again I apologise for that.
I'm interested btw, you didn't address my question.
HYUFD said:
Amusing how with the past few days we have moved from Remainers, Labour, the LDs and SNP moaning about Tory 'hard Brexit' to diehard Leavers and UKIP moaning about Tory capitulation to the EU, which suggests May has got it about right
I agree. I think she has. I don't know whether it is cleverness or an accident. It's probably like a complex physical system that wanders around all over the place but nevertheless ends up in the position of minimum energy and maximum stability without either a guiding hand or by accident.
Notable that Labour picked up much more of the UKIP/BNP vote than the Tories.
That saddens me because it shows the dearth talent or ability currently on the Right of politics. For me it is no consolation that the Left seem to be equally afflicted. I want competent government whichever colour it is.
Just read Mail, Express comments (I know) re: Brexit deal.
If they are so angry it must be a reasonable compromise.
Big question is can May retain the Mail's support?
@dixiedean You read the DM AND Express comments sections? Jesus Christ, be kind to yourself! I just tend to only read one out of the DM, Telegraph, Express and Times comments' section when it comes to news. They are literally so similar these days!
Cheers for this Mr. Hayfield.
Mr. D, it's true. I've yet to hear of a DM comment extolling the virtues of differential front end grip.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/42279775
What I mean is does fear of Corbyn trump fear of the P45 in the mind of Dacre?
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Securing free movement rights for British nationals in the EU, allowing, for example, a Briton in Spain to move anywhere else in the EU, rather than being tied to Spain.
... which was what I suggested on the previous thread as a missing item. On this particular item Verhofstadt seems to be supporting the UK government's view.
15:29
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2017/dec/08/brexit-border-eu-theresa-may-juncker-tusk-markets-live
To avoid the internet free for all of nastyness - sometimes you have to warn/then kick people out.
https://www.conservativehome.com/platform/2017/12/gisela-stuart-ministers-are-mistaken-regulatory-alignment-is-single-market-membership-in-all-but-name-heres-why.html
That to me indicates she will oppose May's deal.
People will interpret fudge how they wish - all the way to the final deal.
70% of Right-to-buy council houses in Milton Keynes are now buy-to-lets.
Thatchers property owning democracy has eaten itself.
If anyone was full of xenophobic lies it was our government and the EU stringing along the Turks with promises of membership if they never had any intention of honouring their promises.
and thinking, wow you’re a bit odd for someone who is a member of a centre left party aren’t you?
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-12-08/the-bitcoin-whales-1-000-people-who-own-40-percent-of-the-market
If RTB tenants sold up and moved then they still prospered. Also people dying doesn't help those figures.
Problem is the BTL was a very attractive investment for a long period.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accession_of_Turkey_to_the_European_Union
Edit: he’s not a historian, but Giles Coran is another one who comes off totally different on Twitter, in comparison to when he presents back in time for dinner.
That you support this xenophobia as perfectly acceptable is worrying.
I personally think we should have created BritCoin and done an ICO...all the mugs that have bought into CryptoKitties would have lapped it up.
The xenophobia came from those, such as yourself, who were happy to whip up fears of millions of Muslims descending on Britain through Turkey joining the EU.
The truth is that every attempt to interfere with the market makes it worse. The most useful reform would be to make it easier to have long tenancies to give tenants more security. This is best done by promoting professional landlord companies, and especially large-scale build-to-let by pension funds etc, who (unlike private landlords) won't need to keep flexibility to get repossession of the property in case their personal circumstances change. The government does seem to be making some progress on this, but it's still a tiny part of the market.
The other important change is to make it easier to enforce contracts. We hear a lot about rogue landlords, but there are a lot of rogue tenants - which is an important reason why landlords want to be able to chuck them out. No one wants to chuck out a good tenant unless they need the property back themselves.
Turkey's application was dead in the water when it turned its back on democratic norms at the time of the coup and the repression afterwards which occured after the referendum.
Prior to the referendum it was still the official policy of this nation and the EU as a whole to say that the Turks could join. Was our government lying to the Turks when they said they could join?
If as part of the package of Turkish accession was an agreement to see Cypriot reunification then the Greek Cypriots would have voted in favour of that.
"In brief: Turkey is a candidate to join the EU. But it’s unlikely to join any time soon. There are tensions to be resolved over Cyprus before aspects of the negotiation can even be opened, and the EU has concerns over Turkey’s human rights record. If and when the negotiations finish, Turkey must get approval to join from each existing EU member. Some are opposed to, or planning to hold a referendum on, Turkish membership. Support for membership among the Turkish population has declined since 2010."
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jun/15/the-guardian-view-on-turkey-and-europe-separating-facts-from-fiction
"Turkey’s accession to the European club may be a promise made in 1963, but there is no prospect of it ever happening – despite what Brexiters claim"
https://www.ft.com/content/72956a5c-242a-11e6-9d4d-c11776a5124d
"What British Eurosceptics do not understand is that Turkey is no longer the country it was more than a decade ago, when it was eager to join the EU. In May [2016], Mr Erdogan told the EU, “We’ll go our way, you go yours.” "
If you walk through the underpasses in Central Milton Keynes there is the shameful sight of tents of people with nowhere else to go.
We are building new council houses. We've signed leases to provide high volume temporary accommodation in MK. We have invested in a £10m property fund. We've even commissioned new modular (i.e. flat-pack) housing to act as temporary housing while we deal with the spike we have.
And how does the Government help us? Any exception to right to buy? No chance. As you say, it's just fuelled a right to buy boom across our older estates. Are we included on the list of Councils who can lift their borrowing cap to invest in further houses? Nope (we genuinely suspect that it may be different if we had a Tory council)
I try to be as non-partisan as I can, but it is difficult here. The Government doesn't give any indication that it understands or really cares about our housing problems. And our Tory MPs are good at warm words but have showed no willingness to rock the boat or really cause a fuss. With hindsight, it's no real surprise they both nearly got kicked out in June when we all thought both MK seats were safe (and the Tories were all sent to Coventry ha ha)
What if central government imposed a rule whereby it paid a (small) certain sum to a council every year for every council house it has? That would encourage councils to build more, no?
Seems a clearcut example of unintended consequences no one would be particularly keen on.
70% absolutely stunned me.