My understanding of 'free end of life care' is that when you entered a care home with dementia or Alzheimers or Parkinson's, the Government would pick up the costs.
That is great, a fine & compassionate policy. It makes dementia sufferers equal with cancer sufferers. It will cost more than 3 billion pounds.
Your plan is to examine every dementia sufferer every, what 6 months, to see if they are in "the last 12 months of their life" (your words). And then the Govt will pay the care home fees.
It would be hard to come up with a stupider policy. Or a more cruel one.
Okay last post on this from hy.
I'd prefer a fully funded 'end of life' care service whether you have cancer or dementia... but we have to recognise that taxes need to rise to cover those costs. That will no doubt include inheritance tax.
Inheritance tax is about the most unpopular tax there is especially as until Osborne cut it more and more were paying it through rising house prices. Social insurance should fund any extra care costs
That was why the dementia tax was such a disaster for the Tories and McDonnell's plans to raise inheritance tax are Labour's weak link
Where's the evidence that "inheritance tax is the most unpopular tax"? What you mean is that it's very unpopular with a relatively small, wealthy segment of society which includes yourself.
Whatever happened to the Thatcherite ideal that people should stand on their own two feet and make their own way in the world? Maggie must be turning in her grave to see how her party descendents are so desperate to facilitate a system whereby citizens' success in life depends so heavily on whether they benefit from unearned handouts from mummy and daddy.
I'm a lifelong Tory voter and much of Corbyn's programme fills me with dismay....but if he puts inheritance tax up to 100% that's one small thing I'll support him on, as I'm guessing will a significant number of voters less well heeled than yourself.
59% of voters think inheritance tax is unfair but if Labour wants to commit political suicide by banging on about raising it be my guest. Osborne's IHT cut gave the Tories their biggest poll boost in a decade https://yougov.co.uk/news/2015/03/19/inheritance-tax-most-unfair/
If Momentum feels 'centrist' MPs are threatening the mandate of the Dear Leader then the show trials and mass deselections will start shortly after with the full backing of PM Corbyn and Comrade McDonnell
I just don't think Momentum are the evil bogey group you think they are. Other than campaigning for Corbyn - I don't see that they have done that much.
Those centrist MPs tried a coup against Corbyn not so long ago but there have there been any deselections?
Momentum is full of Trotskyites and Marxists like Lansman
They will keep centrist MPs if it helps them get into power, once in power they can be deselected at will
If you kick an MP out of your party, they stay an MP. And they're probably less likely to vote for you. Your scenario would be a surefire way for Labour, having won an election, to lose power.
Momentum want power to achieve socialism not power for its own sake, if any Labour MPs block that they will aim to ensure they are no longer Labour MPs
So they will be opposition MPs - and bang goes the majority.
Corbyn may well have enough MPs with the SNP and the Greens and Plaid for a left-wing government anyway without centrist Labour MPs. Otherwise centrist MPs are unlikely to have a majority either so Corbyn would lead a minority government
Would a weakened coalition or minority government be able to bring in the sort of socialism that you're scared of? Sorry, but your arguments seem to be constructed on a back to front basis.
It would pave the way until a majority Labour government freed of preselected centrists insufficiently loyal to the Dear Leader
But those MPs would still have to have been elected. So it's a worry not for the next election but potentially for the one after?
And then only if the British electorate like the new supposedly Corbynite MP's.
Where's the evidence that "inheritance tax is the most unpopular tax"? What you mean is that it's very unpopular with a relatively small, wealthy segment of society which includes yourself.
Whatever happened to the Thatcherite ideal that people should stand on their own two feet and make their own way in the world? Maggie must be turning in her grave to see how her party descendents are so desperate to facilitate a system whereby citizens' success in life depends so heavily on whether they benefit from unearned handouts from mummy and daddy.
I'm a lifelong Tory voter and much of Corbyn's programme fills me with dismay....but if he puts inheritance tax up to 100% that's one small thing I'll support him on, as I'm guessing will a significant number of voters less well heeled than yourself.
So if someone's granny dies you are in favour of taking everything she owned - the house, the family silver, the photo albums, the very clothes off her back. Not a vote winner.
The other inequity of inheritance tax is that it is double taxation as people have already paid income tax, stamp duty, VAT etc etc
Death duties were seen as the best way to break up the big aristocratic estates.
I note that more recent aristocrats have become very adept at legally dodging them. The New Duke of Westminster recently inherited billions without a pound of inheritance tax being paid:
The EU made a study, in the UK, as to why so many small businesses just shut down as their owner gets old. I find inheritance tax influences me to do that too. By the time I take out the costs of business, then take out tax, then take out the 40% inheritance tax my estate will pay - and that I have no money worries - I can't see a lot of point in working into my old age.
Jean-Claude Juncker has said that there will be an "autopsy report" after his dinner with Theresa May tonight as the Prime Minister seeks to break the deadlock over Brexit negotiations
Jean-Claude Juncker has said that there will be an "autopsy report" after his dinner with Theresa May tonight as the Prime Minister seeks to break the deadlock over Brexit negotiations
Perhaps he has been investigating George's Freezer.
Jean-Claude Juncker has said that there will be an "autopsy report" after his dinner with Theresa May tonight as the Prime Minister seeks to break the deadlock over Brexit negotiations
Surely this whole episode means DD's career is in tatters. The man's been humiliated, with Theresa acting like a driving examiner physically intervening when the examinee has lost it at the wheel. Brexit has road tested a lot of politicians on the eurosceptic right, and they've all been exposed as inadequate.
(Note: this comment is unfair, but it will be interesting to see if the media treat it in the same manner as the APT's first journey 35-odd years ago).
This, by a distance, is the most dysfunctional government of my lifetime. The nearest comparison would be the dog days of the Callaghan and Major regimes, but even while each vote in Parliament was uncertain then, the government.
All this as we face the greatest crisis since the War.
You much detail.
Social followed.
Official Labour policies are Socialist Democratic in the main. I have a concern about Jeremy Corbyn's lack of discipline. After the election he seemed to dismiss official positions as things that were said to get elected and of no importance. I also don't trust John McDonnell.
Corrected it for you.
I unpleasant and reactionary it might be.
Labour is moving to one member one vote. That will certainly increase the power of the left, but it will substantially reduce the influence of the unions. Any increased rights that unions get will be from conviction, not necessity. I doubt Corbyn drinks much beer or eats many sandwiches!
Apart from in Scotland where it's one mobile number , dozens of votes.
At the weekend, a Labour source told the Sunday Herald that, of around 1600 sign-ups, around 1200 were Asian members. It was claimed the members had been signed up to “edge it” for Sarwar.
The Herald can now reveal that the application process put in place by Labour is under the spotlight. Under the system, new members were asked to provide a name and phone number, as well as postal and email addresses, but signatures were not required.
Party sources have said that clusters of new members have come from within individual households, which in itself is not unusual as extended families can often live together.
However, in some cases, the same mobile phone number has been provided for all or many of the new members under one roof.
My understanding of 'free end of life care' is that when you entered a care home with dementia or Alzheimers or Parkinson's, the Government would pick up the costs.
That is great, a fine & compassionate policy. It makes dementia sufferers equal with cancer sufferers. It will cost more than 3 billion pounds.
Your plan is to examine every dementia sufferer every, what 6 months, to see if they are in "the last 12 months of their life" (your words). And then the Govt will pay the care home fees.
It would be hard to come up with a stupider policy. Or a more cruel one.
Okay last post on this from me.
I'm merely telling you what was in the Labour manifesto because you had a very different idea of what Labour were promising.
I'd be up for a policy that treats dementia sufferers equally or more equally with cancer sufferers. Sounds good to me.
I do think though that for people in care homes they should make a contribution to living costs if they can afford it (I think Dilnot estimates 7-10k/year) as they would be paying that money anyway if they are healthy.
I'd prefer a fully funded 'end of life' care service whether you have cancer or dementia... but we have to recognise that taxes need to rise to cover those costs. That will no doubt include inheritance tax.
Inheritance tax is about the most unpopular tax there is especially as until Osborne cut it more and more were paying it through rising house prices. Social insurance should fund any extra care costs
That was why the dementia tax was such a disaster for the Tories and McDonnell's plans to raise inheritance tax are Labour's weak link
As the number of homeowners shrinks
Death duties were seen as the best way to break up the big aristocratic estates.
I note that more recent aristocrats have become very adept at legally dodging them. The New Duke of Westminster recently inherited billions without a pound of inheritance tax being paid:
(Note: this comment is unfair, but it will be interesting to see if the media treat it in the same manner as the APT's first journey 35-odd years ago).
I see they've amended the bit about trains running on diesel for "the last part of the journey" from Maidenhead to Bristol.
My understanding of 'free end of life care' is that when you entered a care home with dementia or Alzheimers or Parkinson's, the Government would pick up the costs.
That is great, a fine & compassionate policy. It makes dementia sufferers equal with cancer sufferers. It will cost more than 3 billion pounds.
Your plan is to examine every dementia sufferer every, what 6 months, to see if they are in "the last 12 months of their life" (your words). And then the Govt will pay the care home fees.
It would be hard to come up with a stupider policy. Or a more cruel one.
Okay last post on this from me.
I'm merely telling you what was in the Labour manifesto because you had a very different idea of what Labour were promising.
I'd be up for a policy that treats dementia sufferers equally or more equally with cancer sufferers. Sounds good to me.
I do think though that for people in care homes they should make a contribution to living costs if they can afford it (I think Dilnot estimates 7-10k/year) as they would be paying that money anyway if they are healthy.
I'd prefer a fully funded 'end of life' care service whether you have cancer or dementia... but we have to recognise that taxes need to rise to cover those costs. That will no doubt include inheritance tax.
Inheritance tax is about the most unpopular tax there is especially as until Osborne cut it more and more were paying it through rising house prices. Social insurance should fund any extra care costs
That was why the dementia tax was such a disaster for the Tories and McDonnell's plans to raise inheritance tax are Labour's weak link
As the number of homeowners shrinks
Death duties were seen as the best way to break up the big aristocratic estates.
I note that more recent aristocrats have become very adept at legally dodging them. The New Duke of Westminster recently inherited billions without a pound of inheritance tax being paid:
(Note: this comment is unfair, but it will be interesting to see if the media treat it in the same manner as the APT's first journey 35-odd years ago).
I see they've amended the bit about trains running on diesel for "the last part of the journey" from Maidenhead to Bristol.
The whole thing is absolutely absurd. Hitachi are going to be laughing all the way to the bank, and the poor passengers may well get a worse service.
As the number of homeowners shrinks I think it quite likely that opposition to inheritance tax will shrink also. In the early 20th century death duties were one of the largest sources of tax revenues - at that time many people believed that inherited wealth encouraged idleness and stifled enterprise and concentrated wealth in the hands of an undeserving elite.
Opposition to inheritance tax hasn't always been 'logical' in the sense that previously a lot of people don't like even though they are very unlikely to ever have to pay it.
As for inherited wealth encouraging idleness, stifling enterprise and concentrating wealth in the hands of the undeserving... maybe that view is making a comeback!
Actually much inherited wealth now pays for children's deposits on a house or flat nowadays
Surely grandchildren rather than children. Most people who inherit will do so in their late 50s or early 60s or even later.
An idle theory: whichever side 'wins' in Parliament on there being a deal or not, will lose at the ballot box.
Turbulence in the economy is nigh on certain. Blame will lay with those who are deemed responsible by the electorate (who are unlikely to blame themselves).
It'd be perverse if Labour managed to get the numbers to veto No Deal, we end up with a somewhat rough deal, and then Labour got punished at the ballot box.
(Note: this comment is unfair, but it will be interesting to see if the media treat it in the same manner as the APT's first journey 35-odd years ago).
I see they've amended the bit about trains running on diesel for "the last part of the journey" from Maidenhead to Bristol.
The whole thing is absolutely absurd. Hitachi are going to be laughing all the way to the bank, and the poor passengers may well get a worse service.
I doubt there was too much laughing at Hitachi today. That air con failure was not good.
An idle theory: whichever side 'wins' in Parliament on there being a deal or not, will lose at the ballot box.
Turbulence in the economy is nigh on certain. Blame will lay with those who are deemed responsible by the electorate (who are unlikely to blame themselves).
It'd be perverse if Labour managed to get the numbers to veto No Deal, we end up with a somewhat rough deal, and then Labour got punished at the ballot box.
Depends, if no deal means economic Armageddon, then the ones that tried to stop no deal might get a boost at the ballot box.
My understanding of 'free end of life care' is that when you entered a care
Your plan is to examine every dementia sufferer every, what 6 months, to see if they are in "the last 12 months of their life" (your words). And then the Govt will pay the care home fees.
It would be hard to come up with a stupider policy. Or a more cruel one.
Okay last post on this from me.
I'm merely telling you what was in the Labour manifesto because you had a very different idea of what Labour were promising.
I'd be up for a policy that treats dementia sufferers equally or more equally with cancer sufferers. Sounds good to me.
I do think though that for people in care homes they should make a contribution to living costs if they can afford it (I think Dilnot estimates 7-10k/year) as they would be paying that money anyway if they are healthy.
I'd prefer a fully funded 'end of life' care service whether you have cancer or dementia... but we have to recognise that taxes need to rise to cover those costs. That will no doubt include inheritance tax.
Inheritance tax is about the most unpopular tax there is especially as until Osborne cut it more and more were paying it through rising house prices. Social insurance should fund any extra care costs
That was why the dementia tax was such a disaster for the Tories and McDonnell's plans to raise inheritance tax are Labour's weak link
As the number of homeowners shrinks
Death duties were seen as the best way to break up the big aristocratic estates.
I note that more recent aristocrats have become very adept at legally dodging them. The New Duke of Westminster recently inherited billions without a pound of inheritance tax being paid:
Surely it is time that the taxation of family trusts was looked at with fresh eyes?
The Westminster estate pays tax worth about 10 to 20% of its assets every 10 years
6% every 10 years, with extensive allowances and exemptions.
So about 40% over 70 years. Seems reasonable
I am sure it does seem reasonable to you!
Inheritance tax is 40% on death. Capital tax on family trusts about the same on an approximation of a lifespan (albeit with smoothing, which benefits both sides). What's not fair about that?
(Note: this comment is unfair, but it will be interesting to see if the media treat it in the same manner as the APT's first journey 35-odd years ago).
I see they've amended the bit about trains running on diesel for "the last part of the journey" from Maidenhead to Bristol.
The whole thing is absolutely absurd. Hitachi are going to be laughing all the way to the bank, and the poor passengers may well get a worse service.
I doubt there was too much laughing at Hitachi today. That air con failure was not good.
True, but it doesn't matter, the contracts are signed, and very much to their advantage.
An idle theory: whichever side 'wins' in Parliament on there being a deal or not, will lose at the ballot box.
Turbulence in the economy is nigh on certain. Blame will lay with those who are deemed responsible by the electorate (who are unlikely to blame themselves).
It'd be perverse if Labour managed to get the numbers to veto No Deal, we end up with a somewhat rough deal, and then Labour got punished at the ballot box.
Depends, if no deal means economic Armageddon, then the ones that tried to stop no deal might get a boost at the ballot box.
Given that there will be a recession regardless of the Brexit result - whoever is blamed for the result is going to be blamed for the recession....
An idle theory: whichever side 'wins' in Parliament on there being a deal or not, will lose at the ballot box.
Turbulence in the economy is nigh on certain. Blame will lay with those who are deemed responsible by the electorate (who are unlikely to blame themselves).
It'd be perverse if Labour managed to get the numbers to veto No Deal, we end up with a somewhat rough deal, and then Labour got punished at the ballot box.
Depends, if no deal means economic Armageddon, then the ones that tried to stop no deal might get a boost at the ballot box.
Given that there will be a recession regardless of the Brexit result - whoever is blamed for the result is going to be blamed for the recession....
There’s great irony that hardcore Tory Leavers might be handing the keys of Number 10* to Jeremy Corbyn.
*Yes, I know Number 10 doesn’t have any keys for you to get in
Jean-Claude Juncker has said that there will be an "autopsy report" after his dinner with Theresa May tonight as the Prime Minister seeks to break the deadlock over Brexit negotiations
Surely this whole episode means DD's career is in tatters. The man's been humiliated, with Theresa acting like a driving examiner physically intervening when the examinee has lost it at the wheel. Brexit has road tested a lot of politicians on the eurosceptic right, and they've all been exposed as inadequate.
She has always been a micro-manager. She is now trying to micro-manage Brexit.
We shall see how good a fist she makes of it.
As for Davis? He has found out, if he didn't already know, what every other MP who has worked for her knew already.
Corbyn may well have enough MPs with the SNP and the Greens and Plaid for a left-wing government anyway without centrist Labour MPs. Otherwise centrist MPs are unlikely to have a majority either so Corbyn would lead a minority government
Would a weakened coalition or minority government be able to bring in the sort of socialism that you're scared of? Sorry, but your arguments seem to be constructed on a back to front basis.
It would pave the way until a majority Labour government freed of preselected centrists insufficiently loyal to the Dear Leader
Don`t worry, Mr HYUFD. The Dear Leader will be gone by Christmas. I can`t see her MPs leaving her in place for long after the current visit to Germany, and the latest sell-out.
Mr. P, happens. Somerset was flooded for about a month. Flooding then became the biggest news story in all the world when the Thames valley was at risk.
Mr. P, happens. Somerset was flooded for about a month. Flooding then became the biggest news story in all the world when the Thames valley was at risk.
Of course they will all look silly when they find out it's a viral marketing campaign for Bladerunner 2049
An idle theory: whichever side 'wins' in Parliament on there being a deal or not, will lose at the ballot box.
Turbulence in the economy is nigh on certain. Blame will lay with those who are deemed responsible by the electorate (who are unlikely to blame themselves).
It'd be perverse if Labour managed to get the numbers to veto No Deal, we end up with a somewhat rough deal, and then Labour got punished at the ballot box.
Depends, if no deal means economic Armageddon, then the ones that tried to stop no deal might get a boost at the ballot box.
Given that there will be a recession regardless of the Brexit result - whoever is blamed for the result is going to be blamed for the recession....
There’s great irony that hardcore Tory Leavers might be handing the keys of Number 10* to Jeremy Corbyn.
*Yes, I know Number 10 doesn’t have any keys for you to get in
Indeed, that is one of the many ironies that Brexit has brought us.
On the key issue of the day Jeremy Corbyn and John McDonnell are now more in tune with the position of the CBI and Institute of Directors than the Conservative and Party.
An idle theory: whichever side 'wins' in Parliament on there being a deal or not, will lose at the ballot box.
Turbulence in the economy is nigh on certain. Blame will lay with those who are deemed responsible by the electorate (who are unlikely to blame themselves).
It'd be perverse if Labour managed to get the numbers to veto No Deal, we end up with a somewhat rough deal, and then Labour got punished at the ballot box.
Depends, if no deal means economic Armageddon, then the ones that tried to stop no deal might get a boost at the ballot box.
Given that there will be a recession regardless of the Brexit result - whoever is blamed for the result is going to be blamed for the recession....
There’s great irony that hardcore Tory Leavers might be handing the keys of Number 10* to Jeremy Corbyn.
*Yes, I know Number 10 doesn’t have any keys for you to get in
Indeed, that is one of the many ironies that Brexit has brought us.
On the key issue of the day Jeremy Corbyn and John McDonnell are now more in tune with the position of the CBI and Institute of Directors than the Conservative Party.
As they don't actually have a firm position, then, yes, this is probabaly true at some point but utter balls a few hours later.
@MichaelPDeacon: While you're all worrying about the red sky, a Labour MP has just informed the Commons that "zombies are running wild" in his constituency
My understanding of 'free end of life care' is that when you entered a care
Your plan is to examine every dementia sufferer every, what 6 months, to see if they are in "the last 12 months of their life" (your words). And then the Govt will pay the care home fees.
It would be hard to come up with a stupider policy. Or a more cruel one.
Okay last post on this from me.
I do think though that for people in care homes they should make a contribution to living costs if they can afford it (I think Dilnot estimates 7-10k/year) as they would be paying that money anyway if they are healthy.
I'd prefer a fully funded 'end of life' care service whether you have cancer or dementia... but we have to recognise that taxes need to rise to cover those costs. That will no doubt include inheritance tax.
Inheritance tax is about the most unpopular tax there is especially as until Osborne cut it more and more were paying it through rising house prices. Social insurance should fund any extra care costs
That was why the dementia tax was such a disaster for the Tories and McDonnell's plans to raise inheritance tax are Labour's weak link
As the number of homeowners shrinks
Death duties were seen as the best way to break up the big aristocratic estates.
The Westminster estate pays tax worth about 10 to 20% of its assets every 10 years
6% every 10 years, with extensive allowances and exemptions.
So about 40% over 70 years. Seems reasonable
I am sure it does seem reasonable to you!
Inheritance tax is 40% on death. Capital tax on family trusts about the same on an approximation of a lifespan (albeit with smoothing, which benefits both sides). What's not fair about that?
Trust tax rates should be based on a generation, not a lifespan. It is not 70 years since the former Duke of Westminster inherited.
If it was broadly similar, why are such Trusts so universal amongst aristocrats and similar?
If the Duke of Westminster had been taxed at IHT rate on his £8.3 billion inheritance it would have been nearly as much as all other IHT paid last year. Tories believe taxes are for the little people.
Corbyn may well have enough MPs with the SNP and the Greens and Plaid for a left-wing government anyway without centrist Labour MPs. Otherwise centrist MPs are unlikely to have a majority either so Corbyn would lead a minority government
Would a weakened coalition or minority government be able to bring in the sort of socialism that you're scared of? Sorry, but your arguments seem to be constructed on a back to front basis.
It would pave the way until a majority Labour government freed of preselected centrists insufficiently loyal to the Dear Leader
Don`t worry, Mr HYUFD. The Dear Leader will be gone by Christmas. I can`t see her MPs leaving her in place for long after the current visit to Germany, and the latest sell-out.
Heffer noted in the NewStatesman this weekend that the minimum election period for leader is three weeks, if the 22 committee agreed to a very short campaign.
Not sure that is practical in reality.
So, if xmas then things need to be happening in next couple of weeks surely?
An idle theory: whichever side 'wins' in Parliament on there being a deal or not, will lose at the ballot box.
Turbulence in the economy is nigh on certain. Blame will lay with those who are deemed responsible by the electorate (who are unlikely to blame themselves).
It'd be perverse if Labour managed to get the numbers to veto No Deal, we end up with a somewhat rough deal, and then Labour got punished at the ballot box.
Depends, if no deal means economic Armageddon, then the ones that tried to stop no deal might get a boost at the ballot box.
Given that there will be a recession regardless of the Brexit result - whoever is blamed for the result is going to be blamed for the recession....
There’s great irony that hardcore Tory Leavers might be handing the keys of Number 10* to Jeremy Corbyn.
*Yes, I know Number 10 doesn’t have any keys for you to get in
Indeed, that is one of the many ironies that Brexit has brought us.
On the key issue of the day Jeremy Corbyn and John McDonnell are now more in tune with the position of the CBI and Institute of Directors than the Conservative Party.
As they don't actually have a firm position, then, yes, this is probabaly true at some point but utter balls a few hours later.
Labour is in favour of an EEA-style transition, which both the CBI and IoD want. A sizeable chunk of the Conservative Party wants to jump off the cliff, and at the moment those who are not in favour of national suicide don't seem to know how to stop them.
They need to attack Corbyn's plans to raise inheritance and income tax especially but if Corbyn wins we will have the most hard left government in our history, Corbyn is left of even Attlee and Wilson
Left of even Harold Wilson? Gosh. I liked old Harold well enough, but I never thought of him as a pioneering socialist. And in the context of his time, Attlee was very much a centrist.
In any case, we all need to move on from debating the arguments of 40-70 years ago (and yes, that means enough of the Thatcher demonising too). It's another world now, for better or worse.
My understanding of 'free end of life care' is that when you entered a care
Your plan is to examine every dementia sufferer every, what 6 months, to see if they are in "the last 12 months of their life" (your words). And then the Govt will pay the care home fees.
It would be hard to come up with a stupider policy. Or a more cruel one.
Okay last post on this from me.
I'd prefer a fully funded 'end of life' care service whether you have cancer or dementia... but we have to recognise that taxes need tocosts. That will no doubt include inheritance tax.
Inheritance tax is about the most unpopular tax there is especially as until Osborne cut it more and more were paying it through rising house prices. Social insurance should fund any extra care costs
That was why the dementia tax was such a disaster for the Tories and McDonnell's plans to raise inheritance tax are Labour's weak link
As the number of homeowners shrinks
Death duties were seen as the best way to break up the big aristocratic estates.
The Westminster estate pays tax worth about 10 to 20% of its assets every 10 years
6% every 10 years, with extensive allowances and exemptions.
So about 40% over 70 years. Seems reasonable
I am sure it does seem reasonable to you!
Inheritance tax is 40% on death. Capital tax on family trusts about the same on an approximation of a lifespan (albeit with smoothing, which benefits both sides). What's not fair about that?
Trust tax rates should be based on a generation, not a lifespan. It is not 70 years since the former Duke of Westminster inherited.
If it was broadly similar, why are such Trusts so universal amongst aristocrats and similar?
If the Duke of Westminster had been taxed at IHT rate on his £8.3 billion inheritance it would have been nearly as much as all other IHT paid last year. Tories believe taxes are for the little people.
Most were set up many years ago when inheritance taxes were much higher.
Atlee took our home from us - we can no longer care for the gardens that generations of my forebears nurtured. And that's because we paid all our taxes on the nail every year and didn't form trusts as we believe we have a moral duty to contribute.
Tories believe in long term planning. High inheritance tax rates prevent that.
Comments
https://yougov.co.uk/news/2015/03/19/inheritance-tax-most-unfair/
(I hope your house is undamaged).
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/10/16/theresa-may-embarks-diplomatic-blitz-boris-johnson-tells-eu/
Jean-Claude Juncker has said that there will be an "autopsy report" after his dinner with Theresa May tonight as the Prime Minister seeks to break the deadlock over Brexit negotiations
I have often said that the IEP high-speed train project would be a disaster. I had not expected it to fail so soon:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-41633356
(Note: this comment is unfair, but it will be interesting to see if the media treat it in the same manner as the APT's first journey 35-odd years ago).
http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/15593832.Scottish_Labour_leadership_contest_is_being__rigged___says_party_MP_Ian_Murray/
http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/15588154.Labour_leadership_contest_hit_by_row_over_new_members_joining_with_same_email_addresses/?ref=ar
At the weekend, a Labour source told the Sunday Herald that, of around 1600 sign-ups, around 1200 were Asian members. It was claimed the members had been signed up to “edge it” for Sarwar.
The Herald can now reveal that the application process put in place by Labour is under the spotlight. Under the system, new members were asked to provide a name and phone number, as well as postal and email addresses, but signatures were not required.
Party sources have said that clusters of new members have come from within individual households, which in itself is not unusual as extended families can often live together.
However, in some cases, the same mobile phone number has been provided for all or many of the new members under one roof.
Turbulence in the economy is nigh on certain. Blame will lay with those who are deemed responsible by the electorate (who are unlikely to blame themselves).
It'd be perverse if Labour managed to get the numbers to veto No Deal, we end up with a somewhat rough deal, and then Labour got punished at the ballot box.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-41641563
I plan my estate
You pay inheritance tax
They dodge it via trust
Red sky at midday, Brexit's warning ...
If No Deal happens and is very bad, that side will lose the election, and vice versa.
Mr. Pulpstar, that's rather good.
What I find entertaining is the sky was like that here this morning. Now it has reached London, my timeline has exploded.
*Yes, I know Number 10 doesn’t have any keys for you to get in
We shall see how good a fist she makes of it.
As for Davis? He has found out, if he didn't already know, what every other MP who has worked for her knew already.
I do not dodge my taxes.
I employ tax minimisation strategies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wCkmuRkZz4
On the key issue of the day Jeremy Corbyn and John McDonnell are now more in tune with the position of the CBI and Institute of Directors than the Conservative and Party.
If it was broadly similar, why are such Trusts so universal amongst aristocrats and similar?
If the Duke of Westminster had been taxed at IHT rate on his £8.3 billion inheritance it would have been nearly as much as all other IHT paid last year. Tories believe taxes are for the little people.
Not sure that is practical in reality.
So, if xmas then things need to be happening in next couple of weeks surely?
In any case, we all need to move on from debating the arguments of 40-70 years ago (and yes, that means enough of the Thatcher demonising too). It's another world now, for better or worse.
Atlee took our home from us - we can no longer care for the gardens that generations of my forebears nurtured. And that's because we paid all our taxes on the nail every year and didn't form trusts as we believe we have a moral duty to contribute.
Tories believe in long term planning. High inheritance tax rates prevent that.