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  • Such a pity the election was nearly 4 months ago :lol:
  • She's a fecking pox on the Tory party.
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 14,158

    She's a fecking pox on the Tory party.

    She's stuck around to try and solve a difficult political situation.

    More than certain posh boys ever did.

    Members should back her.
  • Mortimer said:

    She's a fecking pox on the Tory party.

    She's stuck around to try and solve a difficult political situation.

    More than certain posh boys ever did.

    Members should back her.
    Its her fault that the situation is difficult.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,849
    Mortimer said:

    She's a fecking pox on the Tory party.

    She's stuck around to try and solve a difficult political situation.

    More than certain posh boys ever did.

    Members should back her.
    I suspect no one really wants to take over the sinking ship.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,429
    Go jezz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D
  • Mortimer said:

    She's a fecking pox on the Tory party.

    She's stuck around to try and solve a difficult political situation.

    More than certain posh boys ever did.

    Members should back her.
    There is no choice at this moment - any move would result in the very real possibility of Corbyn becoming PM
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 37,722
    I expect Labour will get a boost in their conference week, and the Conservatives will get a boost in theirs.
  • Mortimer said:

    She's a fecking pox on the Tory party.

    She's stuck around to try and solve a difficult political situation.

    More than certain posh boys ever did.

    Members should back her.
    I heard the same nonsense when IDS was in charge.

    She made net seat losses against a Marxist IRA condoning tool.

    One posh boy resigning because it was the honourable thing to do, the other one was forced out by Mrs May, if she had any class, she'd resign her seat and urge George to stand in her place.

    PS - You sound like one of those boring lefty idiots I know, who keep on banging on the vileness of the class system despite having attended places like Winchester and Oxford.

    The posh boys made net seat gains, something Mrs May will never achieve.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,811
    The end is nigh. May needs to go but no one would relish the challenge ahead, so limp on she will and any hope of reversing a Labour resurgence will end, leading to a normal result after 10 years or so of a party in power.
    Cyclefree said:

    HYUFD said:

    Labour activist calls for the Royal Family to be guillotined
    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/labour-mp-mocks-prince-harrys-11240409.amp

    Can I be the first to say that Harry is hot?

    Certainly.
  • Sean_F said:

    I expect Labour will get a boost in their conference week, and the Conservatives will get a boost in theirs.

    Not sure, a week of Mrs May on the telly and the Tories might be struggling to hit 30%
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,811

    Mortimer said:

    She's a fecking pox on the Tory party.

    She's stuck around to try and solve a difficult political situation.

    More than certain posh boys ever did.

    Members should back her.
    I heard the same nonsense when IDS was in charge.

    She made net seat losses against a Marxist IRA condoning tool.

    One posh boy resigning because it was the honourable thing to do, the other one was forced out by Mrs May, if she had any class, she'd resign her seat and urge George to stand in her place.

    PS - You sound like one of those boring lefty idiots I know, who keep on banging on the vileness of the class system despite having attended places like Winchester and Oxford.

    The posh boys made net seat gains, something Mrs May will never achieve.
    I'm a fan of the posh boys, to an extent but it'd have been nice if they had stuck around at least so they might be on hand for some assistance if felt necessary.
  • Good. We need the polls to stay in the Goldilocks Zone. Bad enough for the Conservatives to keep the government weak and prevent a second Brexit election. But not good enough for Labour to validate their shift to post reality politics.
  • YouGov finds 21% of voters think the government is doing a good job at negotiating Brexit.

    Down 3% since Mrs May's speech.
  • Mortimer said:

    She's a fecking pox on the Tory party.

    She's stuck around to try and solve a difficult political situation.

    More than certain posh boys ever did.

    Members should back her.
    I heard the same nonsense when IDS was in charge.

    She made net seat losses against a Marxist IRA condoning tool.

    One posh boy resigning because it was the honourable thing to do, the other one was forced out by Mrs May, if she had any class, she'd resign her seat and urge George to stand in her place.

    PS - You sound like one of those boring lefty idiots I know, who keep on banging on the vileness of the class system despite having attended places like Winchester and Oxford.

    The posh boys made net seat gains, something Mrs May will never achieve.
    Cameron 36%
    May 42%

    (Angela 33%)
  • YorkcityYorkcity Posts: 4,382
    Mortimer said:

    She's a fecking pox on the Tory party.

    She's stuck around to try and solve a difficult political situation.

    More than certain posh boys ever did.

    Members should back her.
    Why the attack line of posh boys ? Always seem strange assault from the right.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,849

    Mortimer said:

    She's a fecking pox on the Tory party.

    She's stuck around to try and solve a difficult political situation.

    More than certain posh boys ever did.

    Members should back her.
    I heard the same nonsense when IDS was in charge.

    She made net seat losses against a Marxist IRA condoning tool.

    One posh boy resigning because it was the honourable thing to do, the other one was forced out by Mrs May, if she had any class, she'd resign her seat and urge George to stand in her place.

    PS - You sound like one of those boring lefty idiots I know, who keep on banging on the vileness of the class system despite having attended places like Winchester and Oxford.

    The posh boys made net seat gains, something Mrs May will never achieve.
    Huge personal mistake by Osborne to flounce off... He would probably be PM now if he hadn't.
  • Mortimer said:

    She's a fecking pox on the Tory party.

    She's stuck around to try and solve a difficult political situation.

    More than certain posh boys ever did.

    Members should back her.
    I heard the same nonsense when IDS was in charge.

    She made net seat losses against a Marxist IRA condoning tool.

    One posh boy resigning because it was the honourable thing to do, the other one was forced out by Mrs May, if she had any class, she'd resign her seat and urge George to stand in her place.

    PS - You sound like one of those boring lefty idiots I know, who keep on banging on the vileness of the class system despite having attended places like Winchester and Oxford.

    The posh boys made net seat gains, something Mrs May will never achieve.
    Cameron 36%
    May 42%

    (Angela 33%)
    How many seats did Cameron win in 2015? Was it more or fewer than Mrs May?

    Also, how big was Angela's lead, in % terms, over the second party? Was is more or fewer than Mrs May's lead?
  • Sean_F said:

    I expect Labour will get a boost in their conference week, and the Conservatives will get a boost in theirs.

    Not sure, a week of Mrs May on the telly and the Tories might be struggling to hit 30%
    True. The more voters see of awkward Theresa the less they seem to like her. Notice how she did better in the polls while one her 3+ week holiday in. August
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548

    Sean_F said:

    I expect Labour will get a boost in their conference week, and the Conservatives will get a boost in theirs.

    Not sure, a week of Mrs May on the telly and the Tories might be struggling to hit 30%
    May is like Miliband. Popularity rises when out of view, sinks when on the telly.
  • Mortimer said:

    She's a fecking pox on the Tory party.

    She's stuck around to try and solve a difficult political situation.

    More than certain posh boys ever did.

    Members should back her.
    I heard the same nonsense when IDS was in charge.

    She made net seat losses against a Marxist IRA condoning tool.

    One posh boy resigning because it was the honourable thing to do, the other one was forced out by Mrs May, if she had any class, she'd resign her seat and urge George to stand in her place.

    PS - You sound like one of those boring lefty idiots I know, who keep on banging on the vileness of the class system despite having attended places like Winchester and Oxford.

    The posh boys made net seat gains, something Mrs May will never achieve.
    Huge personal mistake by Osborne to flounce off... He would probably be PM now if he hadn't.
    Nah, the Leadbangers wouldn't have allowed it.

    Plus, you* Brexit, you fix it.

    *Not you, obviously.
  • welshowlwelshowl Posts: 4,464
    How many billion? For pen pushing pensions in Brussels?

    Gold played Euro fat cats ladle the gravy.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,633
    Right now, the UK is working OK*

    *ish

    Exports are more competitive with the weaker pound, the stock market is high but not soaring away to ridiculous heights, unemployment is at historic lows and the deficit is heading south.

    Like a ridge of high pressure, unfortunately the forecast is seemingly set for hurricanes Jezza and Brexit !
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,849

    Mortimer said:

    She's a fecking pox on the Tory party.

    She's stuck around to try and solve a difficult political situation.

    More than certain posh boys ever did.

    Members should back her.
    I heard the same nonsense when IDS was in charge.

    She made net seat losses against a Marxist IRA condoning tool.

    One posh boy resigning because it was the honourable thing to do, the other one was forced out by Mrs May, if she had any class, she'd resign her seat and urge George to stand in her place.

    PS - You sound like one of those boring lefty idiots I know, who keep on banging on the vileness of the class system despite having attended places like Winchester and Oxford.

    The posh boys made net seat gains, something Mrs May will never achieve.
    Cameron 36%
    May 42%

    (Angela 33%)
    Angela's 33% whas under a PR system - very different dynamic to our FPTP which makes voting for small parties pointless.
  • Sean_F said:

    I expect Labour will get a boost in their conference week, and the Conservatives will get a boost in theirs.

    Not sure, a week of Mrs May on the telly and the Tories might be struggling to hit 30%
    True. The more voters see of awkward Theresa the less they seem to like her. Notice how she did better in the polls while one her 3+ week holiday in. August
    And the general election campaign where she was front and centre and turned a 25% lead into a 2% lead.
  • Mortimer said:

    She's a fecking pox on the Tory party.

    She's stuck around to try and solve a difficult political situation.

    More than certain posh boys ever did.

    Members should back her.
    I heard the same nonsense when IDS was in charge.

    She made net seat losses against a Marxist IRA condoning tool.

    One posh boy resigning because it was the honourable thing to do, the other one was forced out by Mrs May, if she had any class, she'd resign her seat and urge George to stand in her place.

    PS - You sound like one of those boring lefty idiots I know, who keep on banging on the vileness of the class system despite having attended places like Winchester and Oxford.

    The posh boys made net seat gains, something Mrs May will never achieve.
    Cameron 36%
    May 42%

    (Angela 33%)
    How many seats did Cameron win in 2015? Was it more or fewer than Mrs May?

    Also, how big was Angela's lead, in % terms, over the second party? Was is more or fewer than Mrs May's lead?
    Angela LOST 8.6% on her 2013 %-age.

    Theresa GAINED 5.5% on Dave's 2015 score.
  • She's a fecking pox on the Tory party.

    But all other realistic options are worse. What a mess for the country.

  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    edited September 2017

    YouGov finds 21% of voters think the government is doing a good job at negotiating Brexit.

    Down 3% since Mrs May's speech.

    Any sign of a kipper bounce?
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,811

    Mortimer said:

    She's a fecking pox on the Tory party.

    She's stuck around to try and solve a difficult political situation.

    More than certain posh boys ever did.

    Members should back her.
    I heard the same nonsense when IDS was in charge.

    She made net seat losses against a Marxist IRA condoning tool.

    One posh boy resigning because it was the honourable thing to do, the other one was forced out by Mrs May, if she had any class, she'd resign her seat and urge George to stand in her place.

    PS - You sound like one of those boring lefty idiots I know, who keep on banging on the vileness of the class system despite having attended places like Winchester and Oxford.

    The posh boys made net seat gains, something Mrs May will never achieve.
    Huge personal mistake by Osborne to flounce off... He would probably be PM now if he hadn't.
    Nah, the Leadbangers wouldn't have allowed it.

    Plus, you* Brexit, you fix it.

    So it's not about serving the country as best one can even if onr disagrees with the genersl directIon then .
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,546
    edited September 2017
    Twitter to double length of its tweets to 280 characters per message...

    Still going busto.
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 14,158

    Mortimer said:

    She's a fecking pox on the Tory party.

    She's stuck around to try and solve a difficult political situation.

    More than certain posh boys ever did.

    Members should back her.
    I heard the same nonsense when IDS was in charge.

    She made net seat losses against a Marxist IRA condoning tool.

    One posh boy resigning because it was the honourable thing to do, the other one was forced out by Mrs May, if she had any class, she'd resign her seat and urge George to stand in her place.

    PS - You sound like one of those boring lefty idiots I know, who keep on banging on the vileness of the class system despite having attended places like Winchester and Oxford.

    The posh boys made net seat gains, something Mrs May will never achieve.
    14million votes wins us the next election.

    Something your faves never managed.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,138

    twitter.com/MsHelicat/status/912792225964331008

    That's an absurd amount of money for pensions.
  • Yorkcity said:

    Mortimer said:

    She's a fecking pox on the Tory party.

    She's stuck around to try and solve a difficult political situation.

    More than certain posh boys ever did.

    Members should back her.
    Why the attack line of posh boys ? Always seem strange assault from the right.
    TSE went to public school :lol:
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 14,158
    edited September 2017
    Mortimer said:

    Mortimer said:

    She's a fecking pox on the Tory party.

    She's stuck around to try and solve a difficult political situation.

    More than certain posh boys ever did.

    Members should back her.
    I heard the same nonsense when IDS was in charge.

    She made net seat losses against a Marxist IRA condoning tool.

    One posh boy resigning because it was the honourable thing to do, the other one was forced out by Mrs May, if she had any class, she'd resign her seat and urge George to stand in her place.

    PS - You sound like one of those boring lefty idiots I know, who keep on banging on the vileness of the class system despite having attended places like Winchester and Oxford.

    The posh boys made net seat gains, something Mrs May will never achieve.
    14million votes wins us the next election.

    Something your faves never managed.
    At least I don't sound like a Tab banging on, eh?
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,849
    Blimey, SeanT won't like that! TfL and Khan look to have public opinion behind them.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,633
    welshowl said:

    How many billion? For pen pushing pensions in Brussels?
    Gold played Euro fat cats ladle the gravy.
    I'd have a serious think about voting for Brexit in a second EU-ref, must admit. I mean I know we're probably better off in the EU and all. But the amount of gravy on that particular train gives an urge to just tell them all to sing for their supper.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,811

    Mortimer said:

    She's a fecking pox on the Tory party.

    She's stuck around to try and solve a difficult political situation.

    More than certain posh boys ever did.

    Members should back her.
    I heard the same nonsense when IDS was in charge.

    She made net seat losses against a Marxist IRA condoning tool.

    One posh boy resigning because it was the honourable thing to do, the other one was forced out by Mrs May, if she had any class, she'd resign her seat and urge George to stand in her place.

    PS - You sound like one of those boring lefty idiots I know, who keep on banging on the vileness of the class system despite having attended places like Winchester and Oxford.

    The posh boys made net seat gains, something Mrs May will never achieve.
    Cameron 36%
    May 42%

    (Angela 33%)
    How many seats did Cameron win in 2015? Was it more or fewer than Mrs May?

    Also, how big was Angela's lead, in % terms, over the second party? Was is more or fewer than Mrs May's lead?
    Angela LOST 8.6% on her 2013 %-age.

    Theresa GAINED 5.5% on Dave's 2015 score.
    Very impressive. It still ended up worse than he managed.

    Oh well, we're slightly better run than Spain and catalonia at least.
  • The Uber thing is a vote loser for Sadiq Khan. It's potentially vote-changing for angry Uber users and no one else.
  • Danny565Danny565 Posts: 8,091
    This is the 30th opinion poll since the election.

    In only ONE of those polls have the Tories hit the 3% lead they had in June's election - never mind the much higher levels of support they had before the election.
  • Mortimer said:

    She's a fecking pox on the Tory party.

    She's stuck around to try and solve a difficult political situation.

    More than certain posh boys ever did.

    Members should back her.
    I heard the same nonsense when IDS was in charge.

    She made net seat losses against a Marxist IRA condoning tool.

    One posh boy resigning because it was the honourable thing to do, the other one was forced out by Mrs May, if she had any class, she'd resign her seat and urge George to stand in her place.

    PS - You sound like one of those boring lefty idiots I know, who keep on banging on the vileness of the class system despite having attended places like Winchester and Oxford.

    The posh boys made net seat gains, something Mrs May will never achieve.
    Cameron 36%
    May 42%

    (Angela 33%)
    Angela's 33% whas under a PR system - very different dynamic to our FPTP which makes voting for small parties pointless.
    She lost 8.6% on her 2013 score.
  • kle4 said:

    Mortimer said:

    She's a fecking pox on the Tory party.

    She's stuck around to try and solve a difficult political situation.

    More than certain posh boys ever did.

    Members should back her.
    I heard the same nonsense when IDS was in charge.

    She made net seat losses against a Marxist IRA condoning tool.

    One posh boy resigning because it was the honourable thing to do, the other one was forced out by Mrs May, if she had any class, she'd resign her seat and urge George to stand in her place.

    PS - You sound like one of those boring lefty idiots I know, who keep on banging on the vileness of the class system despite having attended places like Winchester and Oxford.

    The posh boys made net seat gains, something Mrs May will never achieve.
    Huge personal mistake by Osborne to flounce off... He would probably be PM now if he hadn't.
    Nah, the Leadbangers wouldn't have allowed it.

    Plus, you* Brexit, you fix it.

    So it's not about serving the country as best one can even if onr disagrees with the genersl directIon then .
    He's a democrat, he wouldn't been able to deliver on a Brexit that was campaigned for.

    He cites the Carl Albert predicament.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 37,722

    Blimey, SeanT won't like that! TfL and Khan look to have public opinion behind them.
    Sort of. People who don't use Uber are pleased. Those who do use it are annoyed.

  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,811

    Twitter to double length of its tweets to 280 characters per message...

    Still going busto.

    I thought theyd managed to turn things around a little, are they in a bad way?
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,849

    Mortimer said:

    She's a fecking pox on the Tory party.

    She's stuck around to try and solve a difficult political situation.

    More than certain posh boys ever did.

    Members should back her.
    I heard the same nonsense when IDS was in charge.

    She made net seat losses against a Marxist IRA condoning tool.

    One posh boy resigning because it was the honourable thing to do, the other one was forced out by Mrs May, if she had any class, she'd resign her seat and urge George to stand in her place.

    PS - You sound like one of those boring lefty idiots I know, who keep on banging on the vileness of the class system despite having attended places like Winchester and Oxford.

    The posh boys made net seat gains, something Mrs May will never achieve.
    Huge personal mistake by Osborne to flounce off... He would probably be PM now if he hadn't.
    Nah, the Leadbangers wouldn't have allowed it.

    Plus, you* Brexit, you fix it.

    *Not you, obviously.
    Haha I'd love to fix it... I'd just keep having EUrefs till the country got it right!
  • Danny565 said:

    This is the 30th opinion poll since the election.

    In only ONE of those polls have the Tories hit the 3% lead they had in June's election - never mind the much higher levels of support they had before the election.

    A pity the election was four months ago. Oh well...
  • Mortimer said:

    Mortimer said:

    She's a fecking pox on the Tory party.

    She's stuck around to try and solve a difficult political situation.

    More than certain posh boys ever did.

    Members should back her.
    I heard the same nonsense when IDS was in charge.

    She made net seat losses against a Marxist IRA condoning tool.

    One posh boy resigning because it was the honourable thing to do, the other one was forced out by Mrs May, if she had any class, she'd resign her seat and urge George to stand in her place.

    PS - You sound like one of those boring lefty idiots I know, who keep on banging on the vileness of the class system despite having attended places like Winchester and Oxford.

    The posh boys made net seat gains, something Mrs May will never achieve.
    14million votes wins us the next election.

    Something your faves never managed.
    My faves won a majority.

    A majority. A MAJORITY.
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 14,158
    Yorkcity said:

    Mortimer said:

    She's a fecking pox on the Tory party.

    She's stuck around to try and solve a difficult political situation.

    More than certain posh boys ever did.

    Members should back her.
    Why the attack line of posh boys ? Always seem strange assault from the right.
    Becuase the modern Tory party should be about aspiration, not entrenching privilege.
  • YorkcityYorkcity Posts: 4,382

    Yorkcity said:

    Mortimer said:

    She's a fecking pox on the Tory party.

    She's stuck around to try and solve a difficult political situation.

    More than certain posh boys ever did.

    Members should back her.
    Why the attack line of posh boys ? Always seem strange assault from the right.
    TSE went to public school :lol:
    Yes when I was younger I always wondered why they called them public schools , thought they should have been called private.Strange country at times.
  • Pulpstar said:

    welshowl said:

    How many billion? For pen pushing pensions in Brussels?
    Gold played Euro fat cats ladle the gravy.
    I'd have a serious think about voting for Brexit in a second EU-ref, must admit. I mean I know we're probably better off in the EU and all. But the amount of gravy on that particular train gives an urge to just tell them all to sing for their supper.
    EU Gravy trains are just about the only type of train I detest :lol:
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,811

    kle4 said:

    Mortimer said:

    She's a fecking pox on the Tory party.

    She's stuck around to try and solve a difficult political situation.

    More than certain posh boys ever did.

    Members should back her.
    I heard the same nonsense when IDS was in charge.

    She made net seat losses against a Marxist IRA condoning tool.

    One posh boy resigning because it was the honourable thing to do, the other one was forced out by Mrs May, if she had any class, she'd resign her seat and urge George to stand in her place.

    PS - You sound like one of those boring lefty idiots I know, who keep on banging on the vileness of the class system despite having attended places like Winchester and Oxford.

    The posh boys made net seat gains, something Mrs May will never achieve.
    Huge personal mistake by Osborne to flounce off... He would probably be PM now if he hadn't.
    Nah, the Leadbangers wouldn't have allowed it.

    Plus, you* Brexit, you fix it.

    So it's not about serving the country as best one can even if onr disagrees with the genersl directIon then .
    He's a democrat, he wouldn't been able to deliver on a Brexit that was campaigned for.

    He cites the Carl Albert predicament.
    He could have stuck around to limit damage as an MP, and be on hand should the party dp a dramatic turn and need help.

    Lord knows I like Cameron better, but we could have used a former pm in the house as well.
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 14,158

    Mortimer said:

    Mortimer said:

    She's a fecking pox on the Tory party.

    She's stuck around to try and solve a difficult political situation.

    More than certain posh boys ever did.

    Members should back her.
    I heard the same nonsense when IDS was in charge.

    She made net seat losses against a Marxist IRA condoning tool.

    One posh boy resigning because it was the honourable thing to do, the other one was forced out by Mrs May, if she had any class, she'd resign her seat and urge George to stand in her place.

    PS - You sound like one of those boring lefty idiots I know, who keep on banging on the vileness of the class system despite having attended places like Winchester and Oxford.

    The posh boys made net seat gains, something Mrs May will never achieve.
    14million votes wins us the next election.

    Something your faves never managed.
    My faves won a majority.

    A majority. A MAJORITY.
    After two goes. Next time, I expect Mrs May will too.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 37,722

    Mortimer said:

    She's a fecking pox on the Tory party.

    She's stuck around to try and solve a difficult political situation.

    More than certain posh boys ever did.

    Members should back her.
    I heard the same nonsense when IDS was in charge.

    She made net seat losses against a Marxist IRA condoning tool.

    One posh boy resigning because it was the honourable thing to do, the other one was forced out by Mrs May, if she had any class, she'd resign her seat and urge George to stand in her place.

    PS - You sound like one of those boring lefty idiots I know, who keep on banging on the vileness of the class system despite having attended places like Winchester and Oxford.

    The posh boys made net seat gains, something Mrs May will never achieve.
    Cameron 36%
    May 42%

    (Angela 33%)
    Angela's 33% whas under a PR system - very different dynamic to our FPTP which makes voting for small parties pointless.
    She lost 8.6% on her 2013 score.
    I think we can agree that May and Merkel did poorly, compared to expectations.
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 14,158

    The Uber thing is a vote loser for Sadiq Khan. It's potentially vote-changing for angry Uber users and no one else.

    Agreed.

    My Sadiq voting mates are incensed.

  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,811
    Mortimer said:

    Mortimer said:

    Mortimer said:

    She's a fecking pox on the Tory party.

    She's stuck around to try and solve a difficult political situation.

    More than certain posh boys ever did.

    Members should back her.
    I heard the same nonsense when IDS was in charge.

    She made net seat losses against a Marxist IRA condoning tool.

    One posh boy resigning because it was the honourable thing to do, the other one was forced out by Mrs May, if she had any class, she'd resign her seat and urge George to stand in her place.

    PS - You sound like one of those boring lefty idiots I know, who keep on banging on the vileness of the class system despite having attended places like Winchester and Oxford.

    The posh boys made net seat gains, something Mrs May will never achieve.
    14million votes wins us the next election.

    Something your faves never managed.
    My faves won a majority.

    A majority. A MAJORITY.
    After two goes. Next time, I expect Mrs May will too.
    That's a rare view, I imagine. Not least that she'll get another go.

    If she pulls it off she will have my deep respect.
  • spire2spire2 Posts: 183
    But 31 % of their users thought they shouldn't have a licence?
    Sean_F said:

    Blimey, SeanT won't like that! TfL and Khan look to have public opinion behind them.
    Sort of. People who don't use Uber are pleased. Those who do use it are annoyed.

  • Mortimer said:

    Mortimer said:

    She's a fecking pox on the Tory party.

    She's stuck around to try and solve a difficult political situation.

    More than certain posh boys ever did.

    Members should back her.
    I heard the same nonsense when IDS was in charge.

    She made net seat losses against a Marxist IRA condoning tool.

    One posh boy resigning because it was the honourable thing to do, the other one was forced out by Mrs May, if she had any class, she'd resign her seat and urge George to stand in her place.

    PS - You sound like one of those boring lefty idiots I know, who keep on banging on the vileness of the class system despite having attended places like Winchester and Oxford.

    The posh boys made net seat gains, something Mrs May will never achieve.
    14million votes wins us the next election.

    Something your faves never managed.
    My faves won a majority.

    A majority. A MAJORITY.
    And is Dave still PM?
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,546
    edited September 2017
    kle4 said:

    Twitter to double length of its tweets to 280 characters per message...

    Still going busto.

    I thought theyd managed to turn things around a little, are they in a bad way?
    Still losing $100s millions a year and now...

    Twitter failed to attract more global monthly users in the second quarter, spooking investors looking for evidence that the company is on a sustainable long-term growth path. The shares tumbled more than 9% in early trading, even as quarterly revenue topped analysts' projections.

    http://adage.com/article/digital/twitter-fails-boost-monthly-audience/309933/
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548

    Blimey, SeanT won't like that! TfL and Khan look to have public opinion behind them.
    Even Uber users fairly split.

    If Uber meet labour laws and registration criteria then everyone is a winner.
  • The Uber thing is a vote loser for Sadiq Khan. It's potentially vote-changing for angry Uber users and no one else.

    Only if there is no Uber-like service in London in 2020. That's highly unlikely.

  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,849
    Sean_F said:

    Blimey, SeanT won't like that! TfL and Khan look to have public opinion behind them.
    Sort of. People who don't use Uber are pleased. Those who do use it are annoyed.

    Less than half (just) of customers thought TfL were wrong; nearly a third thought they were right. As Khan said they should direct their anger at Uber.

    Anyway, I suspect figures like that will encourage TfL to stand their ground, petition or no petition.
  • kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    Mortimer said:

    She's a fecking pox on the Tory party.

    She's stuck around to try and solve a difficult political situation.

    More than certain posh boys ever did.

    Members should back her.
    I heard the same nonsense when IDS was in charge.

    She made net seat losses against a Marxist IRA condoning tool.

    One posh boy resigning because it was the honourable thing to do, the other one was forced out by Mrs May, if she had any class, she'd resign her seat and urge George to stand in her place.

    PS - You sound like one of those boring lefty idiots I know, who keep on banging on the vileness of the class system despite having attended places like Winchester and Oxford.

    The posh boys made net seat gains, something Mrs May will never achieve.
    Huge personal mistake by Osborne to flounce off... He would probably be PM now if he hadn't.
    Nah, the Leadbangers wouldn't have allowed it.

    Plus, you* Brexit, you fix it.

    So it's not about serving the country as best one can even if onr disagrees with the genersl directIon then .
    He's a democrat, he wouldn't been able to deliver on a Brexit that was campaigned for.

    He cites the Carl Albert predicament.
    He could have stuck around to limit damage as an MP, and be on hand should the party dp a dramatic turn and need help.

    Lord knows I like Cameron better, but we could have used a former pm in the house as well.
    He didn't want to be Ted Heath.

    The moment Mrs May made it clear she was going to press ahead with more grammar schools, he knew he had to leave.

    The only Tory majority winning manifesto in the last 25 years pledged no more grammars, and Mrs May was going to try and overturn it, Dave would have voted against it, and a lot more Tory MPs would have followed his lead.

    Once again, he put party ahead of himself.
  • Twitter to double length of its tweets to 280 characters per message...

    Still going busto.

    When you can just post an image of a whole article of text and count it as 0 characters, like that Times article earlier in the thread, the entire idea of a character limit is ridiculous now.
  • welshowlwelshowl Posts: 4,464
    Mortimer said:

    Mortimer said:

    Mortimer said:

    She's a fecking pox on the Tory party.

    She's stuck around to try and solve a difficult political situation.

    More than certain posh boys ever did.

    Members should back her.
    I heard the same nonsense when IDS was in charge.

    She made net seat losses against a Marxist IRA condoning tool.

    One posh boy resigning because it was the honourable thing to do, the other one was forced out by Mrs May, if she had any class, she'd resign her seat and urge George to stand in her place.

    PS - You sound like one of those boring lefty idiots I know, who keep on banging on the vileness of the class system despite having attended places like Winchester and Oxford.

    The posh boys made net seat gains, something Mrs May will never achieve.
    14million votes wins us the next election.

    Something your faves never managed.
    My faves won a majority.

    A majority. A MAJORITY.
    After two goes. Next time, I expect Mrs May will too.
    There ain't no second go for her.
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 14,158

    kle4 said:

    Twitter to double length of its tweets to 280 characters per message...

    Still going busto.

    I thought theyd managed to turn things around a little, are they in a bad way?
    Still losing $100s millions a year and now...

    Twitter failed to attract more global monthly users in the second quarter, spooking investors looking for evidence that the company is on a sustainable long-term growth path. The shares tumbled more than 9% in early trading, even as quarterly revenue topped analysts' projections.

    http://adage.com/article/digital/twitter-fails-boost-monthly-audience/309933/
    Trump is going to outlast a Twitter, isn't he?
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,811
    Mortimer said:

    Mortimer said:

    Mortimer said:

    She's a fecking pox on the Tory party.

    She's stuck around to try and solve a difficult political situation.

    More than certain posh boys ever did.

    Members should back her.
    I heard the same nonsense when IDS was in charge.

    She made net seat losses against a Marxist IRA condoning tool.

    One posh boy resigning because it was the honourable thing to do, the other one was forced out by Mrs May, if she had any class, she'd resign her seat and urge George to stand in her place.

    PS - You sound like one of those boring lefty idiots I know, who keep on banging on the vileness of the class system despite having attended places like Winchester and Oxford.

    The posh boys made net seat gains, something Mrs May will never achieve.
    14million votes wins us the next election.

    Something your faves never managed.
    My faves won a majority.

    A majority. A MAJORITY.
    After two goes. Next time, I expect Mrs May will too.
    That's a rare view, I imagine. Not least that she'll get another go.

    If she pulls it off she will have my deep respect.

    kle4 said:

    Twitter to double length of its tweets to 280 characters per message...

    Still going busto.

    I thought theyd managed to turn things around a little, are they in a bad way?
    Twitter failed to attract more global monthly users in the second quarter, spooking investors looking for evidence that the company is on a sustainable long-term growth path. The shares tumbled more than 9% in early trading, even as quarterly revenue topped analysts' projections.

    http://adage.com/article/digital/twitter-fails-boost-monthly-audience/309933/
    How much longer can it go on like this? What would Trump do if he could no longer tweet?
  • kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    Mortimer said:

    She's a fecking pox on the Tory party.

    She's stuck around to try and solve a difficult political situation.

    More than certain posh boys ever did.

    Members should back her.
    I heard the same nonsense when IDS was in charge.

    She made net seat losses against a Marxist IRA condoning tool.

    One posh boy resigning because it was the honourable thing to do, the other one was forced out by Mrs May, if she had any class, she'd resign her seat and urge George to stand in her place.

    PS - You sound like one of those boring lefty idiots I know, who keep on banging on the vileness of the class system despite having attended places like Winchester and Oxford.

    The posh boys made net seat gains, something Mrs May will never achieve.
    Huge personal mistake by Osborne to flounce off... He would probably be PM now if he hadn't.
    Nah, the Leadbangers wouldn't have allowed it.

    Plus, you* Brexit, you fix it.

    So it's not about serving the country as best one can even if onr disagrees with the genersl directIon then .
    He's a democrat, he wouldn't been able to deliver on a Brexit that was campaigned for.

    He cites the Carl Albert predicament.
    He could have stuck around to limit damage as an MP, and be on hand should the party dp a dramatic turn and need help.

    Lord knows I like Cameron better, but we could have used a former pm in the house as well.
    He didn't want to be Ted Heath.

    The moment Mrs May made it clear she was going to press ahead with more grammar schools, he knew he had to leave.

    The only Tory majority winning manifesto in the last 25 years pledged no more grammars, and Mrs May was going to try and overturn it, Dave would have voted against it, and a lot more Tory MPs would have followed his lead.

    Once again, he put party ahead of himself.
    Public schools are racist against poor people.
  • Mortimer said:

    Mortimer said:

    Mortimer said:

    She's a fecking pox on the Tory party.

    She's stuck around to try and solve a difficult political situation.

    More than certain posh boys ever did.

    Members should back her.
    I heard the same nonsense when IDS was in charge.

    She made net seat losses against a Marxist IRA condoning tool.

    One posh boy resigning because it was the honourable thing to do, the other one was forced out by Mrs May, if she had any class, she'd resign her seat and urge George to stand in her place.

    PS - You sound like one of those boring lefty idiots I know, who keep on banging on the vileness of the class system despite having attended places like Winchester and Oxford.

    The posh boys made net seat gains, something Mrs May will never achieve.
    14million votes wins us the next election.

    Something your faves never managed.
    My faves won a majority.

    A majority. A MAJORITY.
    After two goes. Next time, I expect Mrs May will too.
    How much you want to stake on Mrs May fighting the 2022 general election?
  • Too early to tell whether Osborne taking a break from the Commons is a mistake. He's taken the calculated risk that a break from the Commons after the first half of his career was over would do no harm. And that this might be a Commons to sit out. Noone is going to want to claim ownership f the Brexit fiasco - which as an aside is May's remaining USP - so being away from the disaster scene makes sense.

    Osborne is also young. He can return for a London Remain leaning seat when ever he wants. The bit of the strategy I don't quite get is being so high profile at the Standard. Doesn't fit with the ' break ' narrative. Though that might be as much about taking on a two term Khan for the Mayoralty in 2024 as much as anything else.
  • welshowl said:

    Mortimer said:

    Mortimer said:

    Mortimer said:

    She's a fecking pox on the Tory party.

    She's stuck around to try and solve a difficult political situation.

    More than certain posh boys ever did.

    Members should back her.
    I heard the same nonsense when IDS was in charge.

    She made net seat losses against a Marxist IRA condoning tool.

    One posh boy resigning because it was the honourable thing to do, the other one was forced out by Mrs May, if she had any class, she'd resign her seat and urge George to stand in her place.

    PS - You sound like one of those boring lefty idiots I know, who keep on banging on the vileness of the class system despite having attended places like Winchester and Oxford.

    The posh boys made net seat gains, something Mrs May will never achieve.
    14million votes wins us the next election.

    Something your faves never managed.
    My faves won a majority.

    A majority. A MAJORITY.
    After two goes. Next time, I expect Mrs May will too.
    There ain't no second go for her.
    To be fair people were saying in 2010 that Dave couldn't go five years.

    They were wrong.
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 14,158

    Mortimer said:

    Mortimer said:

    Mortimer said:

    She's a fecking pox on the Tory party.

    She's stuck around to try and solve a difficult political situation.

    More than certain posh boys ever did.

    Members should back her.
    I heard the same nonsense when IDS was in charge.

    She made net seat losses against a Marxist IRA condoning tool.

    One posh boy resigning because it was the honourable thing to do, the other one was forced out by Mrs May, if she had any class, she'd resign her seat and urge George to stand in her place.

    PS - You sound like one of those boring lefty idiots I know, who keep on banging on the vileness of the class system despite having attended places like Winchester and Oxford.

    The posh boys made net seat gains, something Mrs May will never achieve.
    14million votes wins us the next election.

    Something your faves never managed.
    My faves won a majority.

    A majority. A MAJORITY.
    After two goes. Next time, I expect Mrs May will too.
    How much you want to stake on Mrs May fighting the 2022 general election?
    I don't think she's the leader if the next election is 2022.

  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,811

    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    Mortimer said:

    She's a fecking pox on the Tory party.

    She's stuck around to try and solve a difficult political situation.

    More than certain posh boys ever did.

    Members should back her.
    I heard the same nonsense when IDS was in charge.

    She made net seat losses against a Marxist IRA condoning tool.

    One posh boy resigning because it was the honourable thing to do, the other one was forced out by Mrs May, if she had any class, she'd resign her seat and urge George to stand in her place.

    PS - You sound like one of those boring lefty idiots I know, who keep on banging on the vileness of the class system despite having attended places like Winchester and Oxford.

    The posh boys made net seat gains, something Mrs May will never achieve.
    Huge personal mistake by Osborne to flounce off... He would probably be PM now if he hadn't.
    Nah, the Leadbangers wouldn't have allowed it.

    Plus, you* Brexit, you fix it.

    So it's not about serving the country as best one can even if onr disagrees with the genersl directIon then .
    He's a democrat, he wouldn't been able to deliver on a Brexit that was campaigned for.

    He cites the Carl Albert predicament.
    He could have stuck around to limit damage as an MP, and be on hand should the party dp a dramatic turn and need help.

    Lord knows I like Cameron better, but we could have used a former pm in the house as well.
    He didn't want to be Ted Heath.

    The moment Mrs May made it clear she was going to press ahead with more grammar schools, he knew he had to leave.

    The only Tory majority winning manifesto in the last 25 years pledged no more grammars, and Mrs May was going to try and overturn it, Dave would have voted against it, and a lot more Tory MPs would have followed his lead.

    Once again, he put party ahead of himself.
    He's young, I wonder what he is planning for next. Not as quick as George to land a high profile job.
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548

    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    Mortimer said:

    She's a fecking pox on the Tory party.

    She's stuck around to try and solve a difficult political situation.

    More than certain posh boys ever did.

    Members should back her.
    I heard the same nonsense when IDS was in charge.

    She made net seat losses against a Marxist IRA condoning tool.

    One posh boy resigning because it was the honourable thing to do, the other one was forced out by Mrs May, if she had any class, she'd resign her seat and urge George to stand in her place.

    PS - You sound like one of those boring lefty idiots I know, who keep on banging on the vileness of the class system despite having attended places like Winchester and Oxford.

    The posh boys made net seat gains, something Mrs May will never achieve.
    Huge personal mistake by Osborne to flounce off... He would probably be PM now if he hadn't.
    Nah, the Leadbangers wouldn't have allowed it.

    Plus, you* Brexit, you fix it.

    So it's not about serving the country as best one can even if onr disagrees with the genersl directIon then .
    He's a democrat, he wouldn't been able to deliver on a Brexit that was campaigned for.

    He cites the Carl Albert predicament.
    He could have stuck around to limit damage as an MP, and be on hand should the party dp a dramatic turn and need help.

    Lord knows I like Cameron better, but we could have used a former pm in the house as well.
    He didn't want to be Ted Heath.

    The moment Mrs May made it clear she was going to press ahead with more grammar schools, he knew he had to leave.

    The only Tory majority winning manifesto in the last 25 years pledged no more grammars, and Mrs May was going to try and overturn it, Dave would have voted against it, and a lot more Tory MPs would have followed his lead.

    Once again, he put party ahead of himself.
    Public schools are racist against poor people.
    They probably are. Private schools are disproportionally Asian.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 37,722
    welshowl said:

    Mortimer said:

    Mortimer said:

    Mortimer said:

    She's a fecking pox on the Tory party.

    She's stuck around to try and solve a difficult political situation.

    More than certain posh boys ever did.

    Members should back her.
    I heard the same nonsense when IDS was in charge.

    She made net seat losses against a Marxist IRA condoning tool.

    One posh boy resigning because it was the honourable thing to do, the other one was forced out by Mrs May, if she had any class, she'd resign her seat and urge George to stand in her place.

    PS - You sound like one of those boring lefty idiots I know, who keep on banging on the vileness of the class system despite having attended places like Winchester and Oxford.

    The posh boys made net seat gains, something Mrs May will never achieve.
    14million votes wins us the next election.

    Something your faves never managed.
    My faves won a majority.

    A majority. A MAJORITY.
    After two goes. Next time, I expect Mrs May will too.
    There ain't no second go for her.
    I hope not. She had her chance, and she blew it.
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 14,158

    welshowl said:

    Mortimer said:

    Mortimer said:

    Mortimer said:

    She's a fecking pox on the Tory party.

    She's stuck around to try and solve a difficult political situation.

    More than certain posh boys ever did.

    Members should back her.
    I heard the same nonsense when IDS was in charge.

    She made net seat losses against a Marxist IRA condoning tool.

    One posh boy resigning because it was the honourable thing to do, the other one was forced out by Mrs May, if she had any class, she'd resign her seat and urge George to stand in her place.

    PS - You sound like one of those boring lefty idiots I know, who keep on banging on the vileness of the class system despite having attended places like Winchester and Oxford.

    The posh boys made net seat gains, something Mrs May will never achieve.
    14million votes wins us the next election.

    Something your faves never managed.
    My faves won a majority.

    A majority. A MAJORITY.
    After two goes. Next time, I expect Mrs May will too.
    There ain't no second go for her.
    To be fair people were saying in 2010 that Dave couldn't go five years.

    They were wrong.
    Ditto Mrs Thatcher in the early 80s.
  • Danny565Danny565 Posts: 8,091
    Hmm, rather poor interview from Shami on Newsnight.
  • Too early to tell whether Osborne taking a break from the Commons is a mistake. He's taken the calculated risk that a break from the Commons after the first half of his career was over would do no harm. And that this might be a Commons to sit out. Noone is going to want to claim ownership f the Brexit fiasco - which as an aside is May's remaining USP - so being away from the disaster scene makes sense.

    Osborne is also young. He can return for a London Remain leaning seat when ever he wants. The bit of the strategy I don't quite get is being so high profile at the Standard. Doesn't fit with the ' break ' narrative. Though that might be as much about taking on a two term Khan for the Mayoralty in 2024 as much as anything else.

    Maybe Osborne has decided to go for a post-politics career in political punditry like Portillo rather than return to the Commons.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 72,955
    kle4 said:

    Mortimer said:

    Mortimer said:

    Mortimer said:

    She's a fecking pox on the Tory party.

    She's stuck around to try and solve a difficult political situation.

    More than certain posh boys ever did.

    Members should back her.
    I heard the same nonsense when IDS was in charge.

    She made net seat losses against a Marxist IRA condoning tool.

    One posh boy resigning because it was the honourable thing to do, the other one was forced out by Mrs May, if she had any class, she'd resign her seat and urge George to stand in her place.

    PS - You sound like one of those boring lefty idiots I know, who keep on banging on the vileness of the class system despite having attended places like Winchester and Oxford.

    The posh boys made net seat gains, something Mrs May will never achieve.
    14million votes wins us the next election.

    Something your faves never managed.
    My faves won a majority.

    A majority. A MAJORITY.
    After two goes. Next time, I expect Mrs May will too.
    That's a rare view, I imagine. Not least that she'll get another go.

    If she pulls it off she will have my deep respect.

    kle4 said:

    Twitter to double length of its tweets to 280 characters per message...

    Still going busto.

    I thought theyd managed to turn things around a little, are they in a bad way?
    Twitter failed to attract more global monthly users in the second quarter, spooking investors looking for evidence that the company is on a sustainable long-term growth path. The shares tumbled more than 9% in early trading, even as quarterly revenue topped analysts' projections.

    http://adage.com/article/digital/twitter-fails-boost-monthly-audience/309933/
    How much longer can it go on like this? What would Trump do if he could no longer tweet?
    He could always fund it as a public utility....
    :smile:

  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,811

    welshowl said:

    Mortimer said:

    Mortimer said:

    Mortimer said:

    She's a fecking pox on the Tory party.

    She's stuck around to try and solve a difficult political situation.

    More than certain posh boys ever did.

    Members should back her.
    I heard the same nonsense when IDS was in charge.

    She made net seat losses against a Marxist IRA condoning tool.

    One posh boy resigning because it was the honourable thing to do, the other one was forced out by Mrs May, if she had any class, she'd resign her seat and urge George to stand in her place.

    PS - You sound like one of those boring lefty idiots I know, who keep on banging on the vileness of the class system despite having attended places like Winchester and Oxford.

    The posh boys made net seat gains, something Mrs May will never achieve.
    14million votes wins us the next election.

    Something your faves never managed.
    My faves won a majority.

    A majority. A MAJORITY.
    After two goes. Next time, I expect Mrs May will too.
    There ain't no second go for her.
    To be fair people were saying in 2010 that Dave couldn't go five years.

    They were wrong.
    Yes, but even if people thought he should have done better, he definitely went forwards. Despite increasing vote share May went backwards, and that's the key.
  • Blimey, SeanT won't like that! TfL and Khan look to have public opinion behind them.
    Even Uber users fairly split.

    If Uber meet labour laws and registration criteria then everyone is a winner.
    Not black cabs though
  • Mortimer said:

    kle4 said:

    Twitter to double length of its tweets to 280 characters per message...

    Still going busto.

    I thought theyd managed to turn things around a little, are they in a bad way?
    Still losing $100s millions a year and now...

    Twitter failed to attract more global monthly users in the second quarter, spooking investors looking for evidence that the company is on a sustainable long-term growth path. The shares tumbled more than 9% in early trading, even as quarterly revenue topped analysts' projections.

    http://adage.com/article/digital/twitter-fails-boost-monthly-audience/309933/
    Trump is going to outlast a Twitter, isn't he?
    I don't know. I think investors will keep throwing money at tw@tter for the foreseeable future. It is the bubble effect, all "important" people use tw@tter and so think it is great and just a matter of time until it really catches on.

    The problem is tw@tter as a user experience is bloody awful and as we have talked about on here loads of times they have f##k all idea who their users are and way behind the likes of Facebook in so many technological ways.
  • kle4 said:

    He's young, I wonder what he is planning for next. Not as quick as George to land a high profile job.

    He likes spending time with the family and his work on the national citizen service.

    He's content with life.

    That said his autobiography should be fun.
  • Danny565Danny565 Posts: 8,091
    Mortimer said:

    Mortimer said:

    Mortimer said:

    Mortimer said:

    She's a fecking pox on the Tory party.

    She's stuck around to try and solve a difficult political situation.

    More than certain posh boys ever did.

    Members should back her.
    I heard the same nonsense when IDS was in charge.

    She made net seat losses against a Marxist IRA condoning tool.

    One posh boy resigning because it was the honourable thing to do, the other one was forced out by Mrs May, if she had any class, she'd resign her seat and urge George to stand in her place.

    PS - You sound like one of those boring lefty idiots I know, who keep on banging on the vileness of the class system despite having attended places like Winchester and Oxford.

    The posh boys made net seat gains, something Mrs May will never achieve.
    14million votes wins us the next election.

    Something your faves never managed.
    My faves won a majority.

    A majority. A MAJORITY.
    After two goes. Next time, I expect Mrs May will too.
    How much you want to stake on Mrs May fighting the 2022 general election?
    I don't think she's the leader if the next election is 2022.

    May herself seems to think differently.
  • welshowlwelshowl Posts: 4,464

    welshowl said:

    Mortimer said:

    Mortimer said:

    Mortimer said:

    She's a fecking pox on the Tory party.

    She's stuck around to try and solve a difficult political situation.

    More than certain posh boys ever did.

    Members should back her.
    I heard the same nonsense when IDS was in charge.

    She made net seat losses against a Marxist IRA condoning tool.

    One posh boy resigning because it was the honourable thing to do, the other one was forced out by Mrs May, if she had any class, she'd resign her seat and urge George to stand in her place.

    PS - You sound like one of those boring lefty idiots I know, who keep on banging on the vileness of the class system despite having attended places like Winchester and Oxford.

    The posh boys made net seat gains, something Mrs May will never achieve.
    14million votes wins us the next election.

    Something your faves never managed.
    My faves won a majority.

    A majority. A MAJORITY.
    After two goes. Next time, I expect Mrs May will too.
    There ain't no second go for her.
    To be fair people were saying in 2010 that Dave couldn't go five years.

    They were wrong.
    Dave could campaign- and turn up.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,356
    edited September 2017
    Another Theresa v. Angela comparison -

    Theresa completely crushed UKIP, limiting them to just 2%.

    AfD on the other hand got 13%
  • Do the Germans know how much they are on the hook for to cover EU pensions, I wonder? Perhaps we should tell them.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,849

    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    Mortimer said:

    She's a fecking pox on the Tory party.

    She's stuck around to try and solve a difficult political situation.

    More than certain posh boys ever did.

    Members should back her.
    I heard the same nonsense when IDS was in charge.

    She made net seat losses against a Marxist IRA condoning tool.

    One posh boy resigning because it was the honourable thing to do, the other one was forced out by Mrs May, if she had any class, she'd resign her seat and urge George to stand in her place.

    PS - You sound like one of those boring lefty idiots I know, who keep on banging on the vileness of the class system despite having attended places like Winchester and Oxford.

    The posh boys made net seat gains, something Mrs May will never achieve.
    Huge personal mistake by Osborne to flounce off... He would probably be PM now if he hadn't.
    Nah, the Leadbangers wouldn't have allowed it.

    Plus, you* Brexit, you fix it.

    So it's not about serving the country as best one can even if onr disagrees with the genersl directIon then .
    He's a democrat, he wouldn't been able to deliver on a Brexit that was campaigned for.

    He cites the Carl Albert predicament.
    He could have stuck around to limit damage as an MP, and be on hand should the party dp a dramatic turn and need help.

    Lord knows I like Cameron better, but we could have used a former pm in the house as well.
    He didn't want to be Ted Heath.

    The moment Mrs May made it clear she was going to press ahead with more grammar schools, he knew he had to leave.

    The only Tory majority winning manifesto in the last 25 years pledged no more grammars, and Mrs May was going to try and overturn it, Dave would have voted against it, and a lot more Tory MPs would have followed his lead.

    Once again, he put party ahead of himself.
    On the subject of grammar schools, what is the logic of being against them but for private schools?
  • Pulpstar said:

    welshowl said:

    How many billion? For pen pushing pensions in Brussels?
    Gold played Euro fat cats ladle the gravy.
    I'd have a serious think about voting for Brexit in a second EU-ref, must admit. I mean I know we're probably better off in the EU and all. But the amount of gravy on that particular train gives an urge to just tell them all to sing for their supper.
    EU Gravy trains are just about the only type of train I detest :lol:
    You've not encountered an ex-Merseyrail Class 142 with the seating from hell?
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,811
    Danny565 said:

    Mortimer said:

    Mortimer said:

    Mortimer said:

    Mortimer said:

    She's a fecking pox on the Tory party.

    She's stuck around to try and solve a difficult political situation.

    More than certain posh boys ever did.

    Members should back her.
    I heard the same nonsense when IDS was in charge.

    She made net seat losses against a Marxist IRA condoning tool.

    One posh boy resigning because it was the honourable thing to do, the other one was forced out by Mrs May, if she had any class, she'd resign her seat and urge George to stand in her place.

    PS - You sound like one of those boring lefty idiots I know, who keep on banging on the vileness of the class system despite having attended places like Winchester and Oxford.

    The posh boys made net seat gains, something Mrs May will never achieve.
    14million votes wins us the next election.

    Something your faves never managed.
    My faves won a majority.

    A majority. A MAJORITY.
    After two goes. Next time, I expect Mrs May will too.
    How much you want to stake on Mrs May fighting the 2022 general election?
    I don't think she's the leader if the next election is 2022.

    May herself seems to think differently.
    Well she she states differently at any rate.
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 21,763
    May is rubbish. Bad for her party. Terrible for the country.

    When she goes people will shudder to think she lasted this long
  • Danny565 said:

    Mortimer said:

    Mortimer said:

    Mortimer said:

    Mortimer said:

    She's a fecking pox on the Tory party.

    She's stuck around to try and solve a difficult political situation.

    More than certain posh boys ever did.

    Members should back her.
    I heard the same nonsense when IDS was in charge.

    She made net seat losses against a Marxist IRA condoning tool.

    One posh boy resigning because it was the honourable thing to do, the other one was forced out by Mrs May, if she had any class, she'd resign her seat and urge George to stand in her place.

    PS - You sound like one of those boring lefty idiots I know, who keep on banging on the vileness of the class system despite having attended places like Winchester and Oxford.

    The posh boys made net seat gains, something Mrs May will never achieve.
    14million votes wins us the next election.

    Something your faves never managed.
    My faves won a majority.

    A majority. A MAJORITY.
    After two goes. Next time, I expect Mrs May will too.
    How much you want to stake on Mrs May fighting the 2022 general election?
    I don't think she's the leader if the next election is 2022.

    May herself seems to think differently.
    She has to go between 2019 and 2021
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 14,158
    edited September 2017

    Too early to tell whether Osborne taking a break from the Commons is a mistake. He's taken the calculated risk that a break from the Commons after the first half of his career was over would do no harm. And that this might be a Commons to sit out. Noone is going to want to claim ownership f the Brexit fiasco - which as an aside is May's remaining USP - so being away from the disaster scene makes sense.

    Osborne is also young. He can return for a London Remain leaning seat when ever he wants. The bit of the strategy I don't quite get is being so high profile at the Standard. Doesn't fit with the ' break ' narrative. Though that might be as much about taking on a two term Khan for the Mayoralty in 2024 as much as anything else.

    Maybe Osborne has decided to go for a post-politics career in political punditry like Portillo rather than return to the Commons.
    Portillo has the advantage of being charismatic.

    He wasn't booed at an Olympics, for example.
  • Sean_F said:

    I hope not. She had her chance, and she blew it.

    It will be fascinating to see the post-politics May. If she's capable of loosening up when the responsibility is lifted, I'd love to hear her take on this period.
  • On the subject of grammar schools, what is the logic of being against them but for private schools?

    Private schools don't screw poor students in the way grammar schools do for starters.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,849
    edited September 2017

    Another Theresa v. Angela comparison -

    Theresa completely crushed UKIP, limiting them to just 2%.

    AfD on the other hand got 13%

    Limiting UKIP to 1.8% surely?

    Edit: Ah - I see you edited your 4% to 2% :smile:
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548

    Blimey, SeanT won't like that! TfL and Khan look to have public opinion behind them.
    Even Uber users fairly split.

    If Uber meet labour laws and registration criteria then everyone is a winner.
    Not black cabs though
    Black cabs too, Uber following the law on labour, insurance and registration levels the playing field.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 120,336
    edited September 2017
    Mortimer said:

    Too early to tell whether Osborne taking a break from the Commons is a mistake. He's taken the calculated risk that a break from the Commons after the first half of his career was over would do no harm. And that this might be a Commons to sit out. Noone is going to want to claim ownership f the Brexit fiasco - which as an aside is May's remaining USP - so being away from the disaster scene makes sense.

    Osborne is also young. He can return for a London Remain leaning seat when ever he wants. The bit of the strategy I don't quite get is being so high profile at the Standard. Doesn't fit with the ' break ' narrative. Though that might be as much about taking on a two term Khan for the Mayoralty in 2024 as much as anything else.

    Maybe Osborne has decided to go for a post-politics career in political punditry like Portillo rather than return to the Commons.
    Portillo has the advantage of being charismatic.

    He wasn't booed at an Olympics, for example.
    By his own admission, Michael Portillo was the most hated politician in the country at one point, he became to be liked. Defeat made him more popular.
  • On the subject of grammar schools, what is the logic of being against them but for private schools?

    Private schools don't screw poor students in the way grammar schools do for starters.
    My mum and dad didn't have to pay for me to attend grammar school.
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 14,158

    On the subject of grammar schools, what is the logic of being against them but for private schools?

    Private schools don't screw poor students in the way grammar schools do for starters.
    Grammar schools create aspiration. Private schools entrench privilege.
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