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imagepoliticalbetting.com » Blog Archive » I think allies of David Davis are overreaching and going to damage their man fatally. This is very ugly

Allies of David Davis are claiming that Philip May wants his wife to stand down. May friends say it's a "black ops and untrue". Getting ugly

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  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,141
    First! :smiley:
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 120,345
    RobD said:

    First! :smiley:

    Not for one long, once I've had a play with Vanilla.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,141
    edited July 2017

    RobD said:

    First! :smiley:

    Not for one long, once I've had a play with Vanilla.
    Damn and blast, you have too much power :o
  • dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,301
    Nasty story on Scottish Orange Order fancy dress winner.

    https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/886336828168646656
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 120,345
    Phil Hammond is on The Andrew Marr Show tomorrow
  • First. Because I'm worth it.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 64,103

    Phil Hammond is on The Andrew Marr Show tomorrow

    I may listen to that. Blair on Sophy on Sky at 10.00 with no one coming forward to endorse his comments re free movement.

    We really do have rubbish politicians
  • dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,301
    First after preferences have been counted.
  • TwistedFireStopperTwistedFireStopper Posts: 2,538
    edited July 2017
    Big_G_NorthWales said:
    » show previous quotes
    No I have no doubt that you deserve a pay rise, along with nurses and the police, but you haven't turned down £75,000 pa have you

    Sir Twisted Fire Stopper pronounced....

    I went on strike in 2003 for 30kFirePay- Because we're worth it! (Cheers Adam Gilchrist!) I've just reached 30k this year. MPs who took 11 percent recently can suck my salty balls about pay rises in the public sector.
    Flag Quote · Off Topic
    RobDRobD Posts: 28,618
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 64,103

    First. Because I'm worth it.

    And I would give you a rise, genuinely
  • SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 39,766
    Just as a point of order, Labour are down on the last Survation MoS poll, but up on the last Survation poll on 1st July:

    https://twitter.com/survation/status/881204385149308932
  • chloechloe Posts: 308
    David Davis is not the right answer
  • marke09marke09 Posts: 926
    ritain Elects‏ @britainelects 22m22 minutes ago

    Westminster voting intention:

    LAB: 41% (-4)
    CON: 39% (-)
    LDEM: 8% (+1)
    UKIP: 6% (+2)

    (via @Survation, 14 - 15 Jul)
  • MarkHopkinsMarkHopkins Posts: 5,584

    First.

    After Corbyn becomes PM and the bourgeoisie are removed.

  • marke09marke09 Posts: 926
    Britain Elects‏ @britainelects 20m20 minutes ago

    On who would make best Prime Minister:

    T. May: 43%
    J. Corbyn: 35%

    (via @Survation, 14 - 15 Jul)
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 17,402
    Clearly "Pox on all your houses. Not one of them deserves to be leader" is the preferred choice of the British Public

    https://twitter.com/Survation/status/886337424925876224/photo/1
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 64,103
    chloe said:

    David Davis is not the right answer

    Keep getting e mails for Jacob. Imagine Jacob Rees Mogg v Corbyn
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 64,103
    FF43 said:

    Clearly "Pox on all your houses. Not one of them deserves to be leader" is the preferred choice of the British Public

    https://twitter.com/Survation/status/886337424925876224/photo/1

    That is why TM is secure
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,141

    Just as a point of order, Labour are down on the last Survation MoS poll, but up on the last Survation poll on 1st July:

    https://twitter.com/survation/status/881204385149308932

    Yeah, but the 1st July one was telephone, whereas this is online.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 120,345

    Just as a point of order, Labour are down on the last Survation MoS poll, but up on the last Survation poll on 1st July:

    https://twitter.com/survation/status/881204385149308932

    Online v Phone poll.
  • chloechloe Posts: 308

    chloe said:

    David Davis is not the right answer

    Keep getting e mails for Jacob. Imagine Jacob Rees Mogg v Corbyn
    Corbyn would beat Mogg.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 64,103
    chloe said:

    chloe said:

    David Davis is not the right answer

    Keep getting e mails for Jacob. Imagine Jacob Rees Mogg v Corbyn
    Corbyn would beat Mogg.
    Why
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 14,158
    marke09 said:

    Britain Elects‏ @britainelects 20m20 minutes ago

    On who would make best Prime Minister:

    T. May: 43%
    J. Corbyn: 35%

    (via @Survation, 14 - 15 Jul)

    That is staggeringly good for May.

    Do wonder if it is finally dawning on people that's Corbyn is not against Brexit.

    Blair coming out this morning and forcing McDonnnell to say what he said might have helped her an awful lot...
  • chloechloe Posts: 308

    chloe said:

    chloe said:

    David Davis is not the right answer

    Keep getting e mails for Jacob. Imagine Jacob Rees Mogg v Corbyn
    Corbyn would beat Mogg.
    Why
    I just can't see him attracting voters. He is too sterotypically posh Tory.
  • SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 39,766

    Just as a point of order, Labour are down on the last Survation MoS poll, but up on the last Survation poll on 1st July:

    https://twitter.com/survation/status/881204385149308932

    Online v Phone poll.

    Ah, cheers.

  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 64,103
    chloe said:

    chloe said:

    chloe said:

    David Davis is not the right answer

    Keep getting e mails for Jacob. Imagine Jacob Rees Mogg v Corbyn
    Corbyn would beat Mogg.
    Why
    I just can't see him attracting voters. He is too sterotypically posh Tory.
    Thought the same about Corbyn once. Mind you I don't see it happening but it does show that someone not yet to the fore can break cover in time
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,215
    So there were good reasons why Cameron didn't have Davis in his cabinets. Who'd have thought?
  • chloechloe Posts: 308

    chloe said:

    chloe said:

    chloe said:

    David Davis is not the right answer

    Keep getting e mails for Jacob. Imagine Jacob Rees Mogg v Corbyn
    Corbyn would beat Mogg.
    Why
    I just can't see him attracting voters. He is too sterotypically posh Tory.
    Thought the same about Corbyn once. Mind you I don't see it happening but it does show that someone not yet to the fore can break cover in time
    If May survives for a few years to get through Brexit its probably more likely that a fresh face takes over.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 64,103
    chloe said:

    chloe said:

    chloe said:

    chloe said:

    David Davis is not the right answer

    Keep getting e mails for Jacob. Imagine Jacob Rees Mogg v Corbyn
    Corbyn would beat Mogg.
    Why
    I just can't see him attracting voters. He is too sterotypically posh Tory.
    Thought the same about Corbyn once. Mind you I don't see it happening but it does show that someone not yet to the fore can break cover in time
    If May survives for a few years to get through Brexit its probably more likely that a fresh face takes over.
    I agree fully with you but at present she is the best of all the politicians to see Brexit through
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 120,345
    DavidL said:

    So there were good reasons why Cameron didn't have Davis in his cabinets. Who'd have thought?

    After that vanity by election, why did Mrs May think bringing back David Davis was a good idea I'll never know.
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 17,402

    chloe said:

    David Davis is not the right answer

    Keep getting e mails for Jacob. Imagine Jacob Rees Mogg v Corbyn
    I finally got round to listening to Jacob Rees-Mogg's famous performance on QT. It's a bit different from what people on here said. First of all, he wasn't listened to with respect by the majority of the audience. He was listened to in silence, apart from a small number of very noisy cheerleaders. He is also a zealot, despite a probably somewhat cultivated brand image of a charming toff. Corbyn might be left wing but he is less fanatical about it.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 64,103
    edited July 2017
    Sunday Telegraph stating the BBC will announce the salaries of their presenters next week and it is predicted their is a huge gender pay gap. The salaries quoted, if true, are obscene and the BBC will be lucky to see it's licence fee survive the fury that is coming their way on both the gender gap and the amounts of renumeration
  • fitalassfitalass Posts: 4,320
    "I think allies of David Davis are overreaching and going to damage their man fatally. This is becoming very ugly"

    They never learn.
  • chloechloe Posts: 308
    edited July 2017

    chloe said:

    chloe said:

    chloe said:

    chloe said:

    David Davis is not the right answer

    Keep getting e mails for Jacob. Imagine Jacob Rees Mogg v Corbyn
    Corbyn would beat Mogg.
    Why
    I just can't see him attracting voters. He is too sterotypically posh Tory.
    Thought the same about Corbyn once. Mind you I don't see it happening but it does show that someone not yet to the fore can break cover in time
    If May survives for a few years to get through Brexit its probably more likely that a fresh face takes over.
    I agree fully with you but at present she is the best of all the politicians to see Brexit through
    If her cabinet colleagues stop playing games and get on with the task. I don't like Brexit personally but we have to get on and make the best of it.
  • fitalassfitalass Posts: 4,320
    chloe said:

    David Davis is not the right answer

    Agreed.
  • marke09marke09 Posts: 926

    Sunday Telegraph stating the BBC will announce the salaries of their presenters next week and it is predicted their is a huge gender pay gap. The salaries quoted, if true, are obscene and the BBC will be lucky to see it's licence fee survive the fury that is coming their way on both the gender gap and the amounts of renumeration

    Surely the Gov knew about this last year when they renwed the charter
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 64,103
    chloe said:

    chloe said:

    chloe said:

    chloe said:

    chloe said:

    David Davis is not the right answer

    Keep getting e mails for Jacob. Imagine Jacob Rees Mogg v Corbyn
    Corbyn would beat Mogg.
    Why
    I just can't see him attracting voters. He is too sterotypically posh Tory.
    Thought the same about Corbyn once. Mind you I don't see it happening but it does show that someone not yet to the fore can break cover in time
    If May survives for a few years to get through Brexit its probably more likely that a fresh face takes over.
    I agree fully with you but at present she is the best of all the politicians to see Brexit through
    If her cabinet colleagues stop playing games and get on with the task. I don't like Brexit personally but we have to get on and make the best of it.
    The 1922 Committee are fully behind her so it is up to the whips to sort it out
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 17,402

    chloe said:

    chloe said:

    chloe said:

    chloe said:

    David Davis is not the right answer

    Keep getting e mails for Jacob. Imagine Jacob Rees Mogg v Corbyn
    Corbyn would beat Mogg.
    Why
    I just can't see him attracting voters. He is too sterotypically posh Tory.
    Thought the same about Corbyn once. Mind you I don't see it happening but it does show that someone not yet to the fore can break cover in time
    If May survives for a few years to get through Brexit its probably more likely that a fresh face takes over.
    I agree fully with you but at present she is the best of all the politicians to see Brexit through
    Conservatives mostly want Brexit to go through regardless of consequence and they all want Corbyn not to win. Not changing anything is the most reliable way of achieving those objectives. May doesn't need to do anything. Zombie is OK.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 64,103
    marke09 said:

    Sunday Telegraph stating the BBC will announce the salaries of their presenters next week and it is predicted their is a huge gender pay gap. The salaries quoted, if true, are obscene and the BBC will be lucky to see it's licence fee survive the fury that is coming their way on both the gender gap and the amounts of renumeration

    Surely the Gov knew about this last year when they renwed the charter
    I think the government forced the disclosures but in the present pay climate the revelations will be sensational and cause fury throughout the land
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,546

    Sunday Telegraph stating the BBC will announce the salaries of their presenters next week and it is predicted their is a huge gender pay gap. The salaries quoted, if true, are obscene and the BBC will be lucky to see it's licence fee survive the fury that is coming their way on both the gender gap and the amounts of renumeration

    We also know the bbc have been up to some funny business to hide other salaries by moving them to technically being employed by bbc worldwide but the money still coming from telly tax.
  • fitalassfitalass Posts: 4,320
    edited July 2017
    DavidL said:

    So there were good reasons why Cameron didn't have Davis in his cabinets. Who'd have thought?

    Originally Cameron did have Davis in the post of Shadow Home Secretary, but after he pulled that by-election stunt he was never asked back into his Cabinet.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,546
    edited July 2017

    marke09 said:

    Sunday Telegraph stating the BBC will announce the salaries of their presenters next week and it is predicted their is a huge gender pay gap. The salaries quoted, if true, are obscene and the BBC will be lucky to see it's licence fee survive the fury that is coming their way on both the gender gap and the amounts of renumeration

    Surely the Gov knew about this last year when they renwed the charter
    I think the government forced the disclosures but in the present pay climate the revelations will be sensational and cause fury throughout the land
    I remember 5+ years ago one of the no-name bbc news presenters getting in an argument with a guest and revealong they got well over a 100k a year. So the "talent" are clearly on big bucks.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 64,103
    edited July 2017

    Sunday Telegraph stating the BBC will announce the salaries of their presenters next week and it is predicted their is a huge gender pay gap. The salaries quoted, if true, are obscene and the BBC will be lucky to see it's licence fee survive the fury that is coming their way on both the gender gap and the amounts of renumeration

    We also know the bbc have been up to some funny business to hide other salaries by moving them to technically being employed by bbc worldwide but the money still coming from telly tax.
    It is alleged that some stars have been trying to reduce their pay to avoid disclosure.

    And imagine how they are going to cover it on their news channels
  • fitalassfitalass Posts: 4,320
    David Davis had double that number of MPs backing his leadership bid back in 2005 when the PCP was considerable smaller in numbers, and he still couldn't win a Leadership contest.
  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    Jacob Rees-Mogg last matched at 12.5 for next Conservative leader. Extraordinary.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,546

    Sunday Telegraph stating the BBC will announce the salaries of their presenters next week and it is predicted their is a huge gender pay gap. The salaries quoted, if true, are obscene and the BBC will be lucky to see it's licence fee survive the fury that is coming their way on both the gender gap and the amounts of renumeration

    We also know the bbc have been up to some funny business to hide other salaries by moving them to technically being employed by bbc worldwide but the money still coming from telly tax.
    It is alleged that some stars have been trying to reduce their pay to avoid disclosure.

    And imagine how they are going to cover it on their news channels
    The whole we can't release salaries because we wouldn't get the talent has always been the biggest horseshit going. a) loads of them used to have service companies so those with some knowledge of the biz will be able to look at the outline accounts and have a good idea and b) like footballers salaries, the going rates for major "talent" in movies / tv is well known in the biz because otherwise how would you know what to offer them for a role.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 64,103

    Sunday Telegraph stating the BBC will announce the salaries of their presenters next week and it is predicted their is a huge gender pay gap. The salaries quoted, if true, are obscene and the BBC will be lucky to see it's licence fee survive the fury that is coming their way on both the gender gap and the amounts of renumeration

    We also know the bbc have been up to some funny business to hide other salaries by moving them to technically being employed by bbc worldwide but the money still coming from telly tax.
    It is alleged that some stars have been trying to reduce their pay to avoid disclosure.

    And imagine how they are going to cover it on their news channels
    The whole we can't release salaries because we wouldn't get the talent has always been the biggest horseshit going. a) loads of them used to have service companies so those with some knowledge of the biz will be able to look at the outline accounts and have a good idea and b) like footballers salaries, the going rates for major "talent" in movies / tv is well known in the biz because otherwise how would you know what to offer them for a role.
    Their day of reckoning is coming and it could get very difficult for the BBC and their presenters this summer
  • fitalassfitalass Posts: 4,320
    chloe said:

    chloe said:

    chloe said:

    chloe said:

    David Davis is not the right answer

    Keep getting e mails for Jacob. Imagine Jacob Rees Mogg v Corbyn
    Corbyn would beat Mogg.
    Why
    I just can't see him attracting voters. He is too sterotypically posh Tory.
    Thought the same about Corbyn once. Mind you I don't see it happening but it does show that someone not yet to the fore can break cover in time
    If May survives for a few years to get through Brexit its probably more likely that a fresh face takes over.
    Agreed, hence the reason that Johnson, Hammond and Davis are fighting like ferrets in a sack right now to destabilise and undermine each other, May and their own Government instead of trying to make Brexit a success. They have fast become the weakest links in the Government, replace the three of them and send them back to backbenches.
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 17,402
    Truly extraordinary rant against France and all its agents by Jeremy Browne, the City of London's Brexit envoy, in the Mail on Sunday. Apparently the French spitefully see Brexit as an excellent opportunity to to take over Britain's lucrative financial services business. The evil slimebags!

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4700008/City-London-accuses-France-plot-wreck-Britain.html
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 64,103
    fitalass said:

    chloe said:

    chloe said:

    chloe said:

    chloe said:

    David Davis is not the right answer

    Keep getting e mails for Jacob. Imagine Jacob Rees Mogg v Corbyn
    Corbyn would beat Mogg.
    Why
    I just can't see him attracting voters. He is too sterotypically posh Tory.
    Thought the same about Corbyn once. Mind you I don't see it happening but it does show that someone not yet to the fore can break cover in time
    If May survives for a few years to get through Brexit its probably more likely that a fresh face takes over.
    Agreed, hence the reason that Johnson, Hammond and Davis are fighting like ferrets in a sack right now to destabilise and undermine each other, May and their own Government instead of trying to make Brexit a success. They have fast become the weakest links in the Government, replace the three of them and send them back to backbenches.
    The remarkable thing is that day by day Theresa May seems more secure and today's poll showing her retaining her personal lead over Corbyn despite everything is amazing
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 120,345

    Jacob Rees-Mogg last matched at 12.5 for next Conservative leader. Extraordinary.

    I wonder if it is the same punter who keeps on backing David Miliband as next Labour leader.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 120,345
    FF43 said:

    Truly extraordinary rant against France and all its agents by Jeremy Browne, the City of London's Brexit envoy, in the Mail on Sunday. Apparently the French spitefully see Brexit as an excellent opportunity to to take over Britain's lucrative financial services business. The evil slimebags!

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4700008/City-London-accuses-France-plot-wreck-Britain.html

    Don't worry, BMW and Mercedes will force Mrs Merkel and The EU to give us a good deal.
  • GeoffMGeoffM Posts: 6,071

    Jacob Rees-Mogg last matched at 12.5 for next Conservative leader. Extraordinary.

    I wonder if it is the same punter who keeps on backing David Miliband as next Labour leader.
    Damn. Rumbled.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 64,103

    FF43 said:

    Truly extraordinary rant against France and all its agents by Jeremy Browne, the City of London's Brexit envoy, in the Mail on Sunday. Apparently the French spitefully see Brexit as an excellent opportunity to to take over Britain's lucrative financial services business. The evil slimebags!

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4700008/City-London-accuses-France-plot-wreck-Britain.html

    Don't worry, BMW and Mercedes will force Mrs Merkel and The EU to give us a good deal.
    17% and less corporation tax should oil the wheels of commerce for UK
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 17,402

    FF43 said:

    Truly extraordinary rant against France and all its agents by Jeremy Browne, the City of London's Brexit envoy, in the Mail on Sunday. Apparently the French spitefully see Brexit as an excellent opportunity to to take over Britain's lucrative financial services business. The evil slimebags!

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4700008/City-London-accuses-France-plot-wreck-Britain.html

    Don't worry, BMW and Mercedes will force Mrs Merkel and The EU to give us a good deal.
    17% and less corporation tax should oil the wheels of commerce for UK
    You think? Where will the government get its revenue from, having obviously lost some plum industries like financial services and pharma?
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 64,103
    FF43 said:

    FF43 said:

    Truly extraordinary rant against France and all its agents by Jeremy Browne, the City of London's Brexit envoy, in the Mail on Sunday. Apparently the French spitefully see Brexit as an excellent opportunity to to take over Britain's lucrative financial services business. The evil slimebags!

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4700008/City-London-accuses-France-plot-wreck-Britain.html

    Don't worry, BMW and Mercedes will force Mrs Merkel and The EU to give us a good deal.
    17% and less corporation tax should oil the wheels of commerce for UK
    You think? Where will the government get its revenue from, having obviously lost some plum industries like financial services and pharma?
    They will retain most and attract new business - and I have little doubt that most commerce will be unaffected once the dust settles
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 52,846
    FF43 said:

    Truly extraordinary rant against France and all its agents by Jeremy Browne, the City of London's Brexit envoy, in the Mail on Sunday. Apparently the French spitefully see Brexit as an excellent opportunity to to take over Britain's lucrative financial services business. The evil slimebags!

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4700008/City-London-accuses-France-plot-wreck-Britain.html

    Brexit will end in utter humiliation for anyone associated with it, as it was always bound to.
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,229

    FF43 said:

    Truly extraordinary rant against France and all its agents by Jeremy Browne, the City of London's Brexit envoy, in the Mail on Sunday. Apparently the French spitefully see Brexit as an excellent opportunity to to take over Britain's lucrative financial services business. The evil slimebags!

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4700008/City-London-accuses-France-plot-wreck-Britain.html

    Brexit will end in utter humiliation for anyone associated with it, as it was always bound to.
    1) Cameron
    2) Osborne
    3)........
  • spire2spire2 Posts: 183
    edited July 2017
    I know this is true of many politicians but David Davis comes across as very lacking in self doubt
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,229
    Mr Riley-Smith's (single source, Davis camp?) 'May to go by Xmas' is at odds with the Sun/FT reports of the 1922 saying she had to stay/see Brexit through......sounds like Mr Davis is for the naughty step.....
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,380

    fitalass said:

    chloe said:

    chloe said:

    chloe said:

    chloe said:

    David Davis is not the right answer

    Keep getting e mails for Jacob. Imagine Jacob Rees Mogg v Corbyn
    Corbyn would beat Mogg.
    Why
    I just can't see him attracting voters. He is too sterotypically posh Tory.
    Thought the same about Corbyn once. Mind you I don't see it happening but it does show that someone not yet to the fore can break cover in time
    If May survives for a few years to get through Brexit its probably more likely that a fresh face takes over.
    Agreed, hence the reason that Johnson, Hammond and Davis are fighting like ferrets in a sack right now to destabilise and undermine each other, May and their own Government instead of trying to make Brexit a success. They have fast become the weakest links in the Government, replace the three of them and send them back to backbenches.
    The remarkable thing is that day by day Theresa May seems more secure and today's poll showing her retaining her personal lead over Corbyn despite everything is amazing
    https://twitter.com/Sunil_P2/status/752644694140719104
  • ChrisChris Posts: 11,783
    I'm obviously spending too much time in the real world. I had no idea all this nonsense was going on. Jeremy Corbyn must think it's Christmas every week of the year.
  • ChrisChris Posts: 11,783
    Now we know what was written on that piece of paper in the Monty Python sketch about the joke so funny it would kill anyone who read it. It was "Andrea Leadsom still has leadership ambitions."
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,229
    edited July 2017
    Survation - forced choice between two Leader of Conservative Party: Pol1 / Pol 2 / DK

    Davis / Johnson: 36 / 30 / 34
    Davis / Hammond: 29 / 26 / 45
    Davis / Rudd: 35 / 18 / 47
    Johnson / Hammond: 34 / 33 / 33
    Johnson / Rudd: 38 / 28 / 35
    Hammond / Rudd: 34 / 20 / 46

    http://survation.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Final-MoS-Brexit-Poll-Tables-140717GOCH-1c0d2h4.pdf
  • David_EvershedDavid_Evershed Posts: 6,506
    chloe said:

    chloe said:

    David Davis is not the right answer

    Keep getting e mails for Jacob. Imagine Jacob Rees Mogg v Corbyn
    Corbyn would beat Mogg.
    Is Mogg Corbyn's fag?
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,229
    We say voters don't like going to polls more often than necessary....

    If Theresa May were to resign as Leader of the Conservative Party, which of the following is closest to your view?

    GE: 47
    No GE: 43

    Notably enthusiasm comes from Labour voters (76) rather than Conservative (20)
  • NormNorm Posts: 1,251
    is nonsense and if necessary call it out for what it is

    fitalass said:

    chloe said:

    chloe said:

    chloe said:

    chloe said:

    David Davis is not the right answer

    Keep getting e mails for Jacob. Imagine Jacob Rees Mogg v Corbyn
    Corbyn would beat Mogg.
    Why
    I just can't see him attracting voters. He is too sterotypically posh Tory.
    Thought the same about Corbyn once. Mind you I don't see it happening but it does show that someone not yet to the fore can break cover in time
    If May survives for a few years to get through Brexit its probably more likely that a fresh face takes over.
    Agreed, hence the reason that Johnson, Hammond and Davis are fighting like ferrets in a sack right now to destabilise and undermine each other, May and their own Government instead of trying to make Brexit a success. They have fast become the weakest links in the Government, replace the three of them and send them back to backbenches.
    The remarkable thing is that day by day Theresa May seems more secure and today's poll showing her retaining her personal lead over Corbyn despite everything is amazing
    Her position is also strengthened by this apparent in-fighting which can only diminish the various challengers for the leadership in the eyes of the public.
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,229
    edited July 2017
    If these two politicians were leaders of the two main parties at the next general election, for which party would you vote? “Jeremy Corbyn for Labour [ ] for the Conservatives:

    Lab / Con

    Davis: 41 / 38
    Hammond: 41 / 37
    Rudd: 41 / 37
    Johnson: 42 / 39

    So, no 'magic bullets'.......
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,229
    edited July 2017
    Mrs May getting a poor press?

    Completely unconnected, no doubt:

    Last year David Cameron ordered the BBC to disclose what it paid on-air talent earning more than £450,000 a year. This is likely to include stars such as Chris Evans, Fiona Bruce and Graham Norton.

    But the figure was slashed to £150,000 under Theresa May in a move that means what the corporation pays a series of other well known faces – who are likely to include its political editor, Laura Kuenssberg, and the Today presenter, John Humphrys – will also be disclosed.


    https://www.theguardian.com/media/2017/jul/16/bbc-defends-its-stars-salaries-ahead-of-public-disclosure
  • houndtanghoundtang Posts: 450
    I wonder if the narrative is yet again going to be wrong and that May might actually last the distance?
  • Dura_AceDura_Ace Posts: 13,849
    FF43 said:

    chloe said:

    chloe said:

    chloe said:

    chloe said:

    David Davis is not the right answer

    Keep getting e mails for Jacob. Imagine Jacob Rees Mogg v Corbyn
    Corbyn would beat Mogg.
    Why
    I just can't see him attracting voters. He is too sterotypically posh Tory.
    Thought the same about Corbyn once. Mind you I don't see it happening but it does show that someone not yet to the fore can break cover in time
    If May survives for a few years to get through Brexit its probably more likely that a fresh face takes over.
    I agree fully with you but at present she is the best of all the politicians to see Brexit through
    Conservatives mostly want Brexit to go through regardless of consequence and they all want Corbyn not to win. Not changing anything is the most reliable way of achieving those objectives. May doesn't need to do anything. Zombie is OK.
    It's probably apparent to cabinet that Brexit is going to be a cock up and the Conservative party is going to get the blame so they're on maneuvers to see who gets to be in charge of the radioactive rubble that remains.
  • surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549
    The Great Tory Love-in has kicked in. Looks like literally. I support Heidi Allen, whichever side she is on.
  • surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549

    Survation - forced choice between two Leader of Conservative Party: Pol1 / Pol 2 / DK

    Davis / Johnson: 36 / 30 / 34
    Davis / Hammond: 29 / 26 / 45
    Davis / Rudd: 35 / 18 / 47
    Johnson / Hammond: 34 / 33 / 33
    Johnson / Rudd: 38 / 28 / 35
    Hammond / Rudd: 34 / 20 / 46

    http://survation.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Final-MoS-Brexit-Poll-Tables-140717GOCH-1c0d2h4.pdf

    Is it become Rudd is the least known ? Here, we have 1.Davis. 2.Johnson. 3.Hammond. 4.Rudd. Though Davis is ahead of Johnson by more than Hammond.

    Basically, all of them and May are collectively a big yawn.
  • surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549
    Scott_P said:
    How about an honorary degree at Oxford Brooke University ? Know one will no the difference.
  • surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549
    FF43 said:

    Truly extraordinary rant against France and all its agents by Jeremy Browne, the City of London's Brexit envoy, in the Mail on Sunday. Apparently the French spitefully see Brexit as an excellent opportunity to to take over Britain's lucrative financial services business. The evil slimebags!

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4700008/City-London-accuses-France-plot-wreck-Britain.html

    The ultimate Brit opt-out. Blame the Frogs !
  • surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549

    Sunday Telegraph stating the BBC will announce the salaries of their presenters next week and it is predicted their is a huge gender pay gap. The salaries quoted, if true, are obscene and the BBC will be lucky to see it's licence fee survive the fury that is coming their way on both the gender gap and the amounts of renumeration

    We also know the bbc have been up to some funny business to hide other salaries by moving them to technically being employed by bbc worldwide but the money still coming from telly tax.
    It is alleged that some stars have been trying to reduce their pay to avoid disclosure.

    And imagine how they are going to cover it on their news channels
    The whole we can't release salaries because we wouldn't get the talent has always been the biggest horseshit going. a) loads of them used to have service companies so those with some knowledge of the biz will be able to look at the outline accounts and have a good idea and b) like footballers salaries, the going rates for major "talent" in movies / tv is well known in the biz because otherwise how would you know what to offer them for a role.
    Their day of reckoning is coming and it could get very difficult for the BBC and their presenters this summer
    On the other hand, for the BBC having to disclose salaries greater than £150k is also ridiculous. £450k may have been a bit too high. £300k , I think could be considered high enough to be disclosed.
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,229
    Andrew Rawnsley:

    William Petty, the 2nd Earl of Shelburne, is one of the less well-remembered people to have been a tenant of Number 10. I mention him because, as Tory MPs argue about how long they should give Theresa May, the brief, but illuminating lifespan of that 18th-century prime minister is a possible guide to her future.

    Shelburne was propelled into office after Britain suffered the enormous humiliation of losing the American war of independence. Lord North had to resign as prime minister and someone was needed to perform the thankless task of negotiating a peace with the ex-colonies. Shelburne put his lips to that poisoned chalice. He decided that Britain’s long-term interests were best served by having a thriving trade relationship with an expanding and prosperous United States. Most historians salute him for this act of visionary statesmanship, but it won him few friends in a parliament that thought the territorial settlement to be excessively generous to the United States. Once the Peace of Paris was agreed, Shelburne was ejected from Number 10 and spent the rest of his life moaning that his career had been a failure.

    History does not repeat itself, but you can sometimes catch a rhyme. So we can think of David Cameron, the man who destroyed his premiership by accidentally amputating Britain from the European Union, as the Lord North of our times. Theresa May is the Shelburne, a friendless premier kept on at Number 10 for the duration of the withdrawal negotiations and destined for defenestration as soon as they are completed.


    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jul/16/theresa-may-could-still-have-a-future---as-a-human-sponge
  • surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549

    marke09 said:

    Sunday Telegraph stating the BBC will announce the salaries of their presenters next week and it is predicted their is a huge gender pay gap. The salaries quoted, if true, are obscene and the BBC will be lucky to see it's licence fee survive the fury that is coming their way on both the gender gap and the amounts of renumeration

    Surely the Gov knew about this last year when they renwed the charter
    I think the government forced the disclosures but in the present pay climate the revelations will be sensational and cause fury throughout the land
    You mean the Political Editor of Sky earning 5 times as much as the BBC's.
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,229
    surbiton said:

    FF43 said:

    Truly extraordinary rant against France and all its agents by Jeremy Browne, the City of London's Brexit envoy, in the Mail on Sunday. Apparently the French spitefully see Brexit as an excellent opportunity to to take over Britain's lucrative financial services business. The evil slimebags!

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4700008/City-London-accuses-France-plot-wreck-Britain.html

    The ultimate Brit opt-out. Blame the Frogs !
    Nailed on, I'd say.....the movie Dunkirk is due out shortly.....
  • surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549
    fitalass said:

    "I think allies of David Davis are overreaching and going to damage their man fatally. This is becoming very ugly"

    They never learn.

    Was alcohol involved ?
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,229
    surbiton said:

    Sunday Telegraph stating the BBC will announce the salaries of their presenters next week and it is predicted their is a huge gender pay gap. The salaries quoted, if true, are obscene and the BBC will be lucky to see it's licence fee survive the fury that is coming their way on both the gender gap and the amounts of renumeration

    We also know the bbc have been up to some funny business to hide other salaries by moving them to technically being employed by bbc worldwide but the money still coming from telly tax.
    It is alleged that some stars have been trying to reduce their pay to avoid disclosure.

    And imagine how they are going to cover it on their news channels
    The whole we can't release salaries because we wouldn't get the talent has always been the biggest horseshit going. a) loads of them used to have service companies so those with some knowledge of the biz will be able to look at the outline accounts and have a good idea and b) like footballers salaries, the going rates for major "talent" in movies / tv is well known in the biz because otherwise how would you know what to offer them for a role.
    Their day of reckoning is coming and it could get very difficult for the BBC and their presenters this summer
    On the other hand, for the BBC having to disclose salaries greater than £150k is also ridiculous. £450k may have been a bit too high. £300k , I think could be considered high enough to be disclosed.
    Why is twice the Prime Minister's salary not ridiculous but only exceeding it is? It's as good (or bad) a benchmark as any....typical Labour, defending the better off.....;-p
  • surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549
    chloe said:

    chloe said:

    chloe said:

    chloe said:

    David Davis is not the right answer

    Keep getting e mails for Jacob. Imagine Jacob Rees Mogg v Corbyn
    Corbyn would beat Mogg.
    Why
    I just can't see him attracting voters. He is too sterotypically posh Tory.
    Thought the same about Corbyn once. Mind you I don't see it happening but it does show that someone not yet to the fore can break cover in time
    If May survives for a few years to get through Brexit its probably more likely that a fresh face takes over.
    Any human would do.
  • surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549
    Mortimer said:

    marke09 said:

    Britain Elects‏ @britainelects 20m20 minutes ago

    On who would make best Prime Minister:

    T. May: 43%
    J. Corbyn: 35%

    (via @Survation, 14 - 15 Jul)

    That is staggeringly good for May.

    Do wonder if it is finally dawning on people that's Corbyn is not against Brexit.

    Blair coming out this morning and forcing McDonnnell to say what he said might have helped her an awful lot...
    Why did anyone of you think Corbyn was against Brexit beats me ? Some here thought he was even a hard-Brexiter !
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,229
    surbiton said:

    fitalass said:

    "I think allies of David Davis are overreaching and going to damage their man fatally. This is becoming very ugly"

    They never learn.

    Was alcohol involved ?
    If Thrasher was involved......

    An Irish friend once remarked that Irish newspapers have a lovely turn of phrase; 'Following a fight in O'Connell Street last night the Gardai confirmed drink was involved'......who is this 'drink' and why does he get in so many fights....?
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,229
    surbiton said:

    chloe said:

    chloe said:

    chloe said:

    chloe said:

    David Davis is not the right answer

    Keep getting e mails for Jacob. Imagine Jacob Rees Mogg v Corbyn
    Corbyn would beat Mogg.
    Why
    I just can't see him attracting voters. He is too sterotypically posh Tory.
    Thought the same about Corbyn once. Mind you I don't see it happening but it does show that someone not yet to the fore can break cover in time
    If May survives for a few years to get through Brexit its probably more likely that a fresh face takes over.
    Any human would do.
    Dehumanising your opponents......any historical precedents spring to mind?
  • surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549
    FF43 said:

    Clearly "Pox on all your houses. Not one of them deserves to be leader" is the preferred choice of the British Public

    https://twitter.com/Survation/status/886337424925876224/photo/1

    Don't Know wins by a landslide.
  • surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549

    SURVATION POLL

    Our latest Poll for the Mail on Sunday.

    Labour are two points ahead of the Conservatives, with the parties on 41% and 39%, respectively

    Majority of public still say Theresa May should resign, by 45% to 40%

    Voters are divided on what kind of Brexit they want: 34% say we should leave the customs union altogether, 24% say we should pay for access to the customs union, 27% say we should stop Brexit altogether and 15% say don't know

    There is steady support for a referendum on any EU deal, with 46% in favour and 39% against

    Other topics covered in the polling include: Conservative party leadership succession, perceptions of Brexit negotiations and public opinion of the UK's prospects after EU exit.

    Sample size: 1,024 Fieldwork dates: 14th - 15th July 2017 Method: UK adults ages 18+ surveyed online Full tables available here.

    Our latest poll for the Mail on Sunday has further tracked public opinion on the state of the parties and on Brexit.

    State of the Parties Lab 41% (-4); CON 39% (NC); LD 8% (+1); UKIP 6%* (+2); Others 6% (+1)

  • surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549

    surbiton said:

    fitalass said:

    "I think allies of David Davis are overreaching and going to damage their man fatally. This is becoming very ugly"

    They never learn.

    Was alcohol involved ?
    If Thrasher was involved......

    An Irish friend once remarked that Irish newspapers have a lovely turn of phrase; 'Following a fight in O'Connell Street last night the Gardai confirmed drink was involved'......who is this 'drink' and why does he get in so many fights....?
    Good Morning, Carlotta !
  • surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549

    surbiton said:

    Sunday Telegraph stating the BBC will announce the salaries of their presenters next week and it is predicted their is a huge gender pay gap. The salaries quoted, if true, are obscene and the BBC will be lucky to see it's licence fee survive the fury that is coming their way on both the gender gap and the amounts of renumeration

    We also know the bbc have been up to some funny business to hide other salaries by moving them to technically being employed by bbc worldwide but the money still coming from telly tax.
    It is alleged that some stars have been trying to reduce their pay to avoid disclosure.

    And imagine how they are going to cover it on their news channels
    The whole we can't release salaries because we wouldn't get the talent has always been the biggest horseshit going. a) loads of them used to have service companies so those with some knowledge of the biz will be able to look at the outline accounts and have a good idea and b) like footballers salaries, the going rates for major "talent" in movies / tv is well known in the biz because otherwise how would you know what to offer them for a role.
    Their day of reckoning is coming and it could get very difficult for the BBC and their presenters this summer
    On the other hand, for the BBC having to disclose salaries greater than £150k is also ridiculous. £450k may have been a bit too high. £300k , I think could be considered high enough to be disclosed.
    Why is twice the Prime Minister's salary not ridiculous but only exceeding it is? It's as good (or bad) a benchmark as any....typical Labour, defending the better off.....;-p
    Carlotta, many, many people earn over £150k. I would do it this way. If they are paid through a service company, then £150k [ the accounts will give us an idea how much they get paid ]. If on PAYE, then £300k.
  • fitalassfitalass Posts: 4,320
    edited July 2017

    Mr Riley-Smith's (single source, Davis camp?) 'May to go by Xmas' is at odds with the Sun/FT reports of the 1922 saying she had to stay/see Brexit through......sounds like Mr Davis is for the naughty step.....

    Johnson, Davis and Hammond hold three of the key Minsterial posts in Government, and yet none of them are excelling in their briefs right now. Instead of briefing against each other, they should have been working together to bolster their Government's position against the EU over Brexit and furthering UKplc on the global stage. The EU are running rings around them right now because they are not doing their jobs! As for Hammond, he faces some difficult decisions over public sector pay caps, how can it be that he is missing the open goals of Southern Train drivers rejecting that incredible pay offer while nurses, police, fireman and teachers can only dream of that kind of pay scale and rise!

    FPT. I disagree with Robert about Liam Fox being the weakest link as compared to Johnson, Davis or Hammond right now. I recognise the importance of his job on trade, especially in preparation for Brexit. But he is getting on with the day job rather than indulging in his personal ambitions. Its now time for May to assert her authority and get rid of Johnson, Davis and Hammond, she has unlike them upped and improved her game. Its now a given that May won't lead the party into the next GE. But if she now aims to finally stand down as PM and leader of the Conservative party post Brexit in a stronger position than she was on June 9th, then she now needs to get rid of the 'safe' deadwood that she appointed in the days after she became leader. Now that May's Leadership timetable is settled, its time for her to use her remaining period of office to both strengthen her own legacy and provide a real platform for the new Leadership talent to come through and flourish. Like Michael Howard back in 2005, she really can make a difference now when it comes to future electorally prospects of her party when she stands down.

    I was never a May fan, and I was a Remain voter in the EU Referendum. But I am now fully behind team UKplc in the Brexit negociations to make sure we get the best deal economically. And that is not going to happen while Johnson, Davis or Hammond continue to undermine their own Government, and as a result the UK's position alongside Corbyn and the Labour party, Sturgeon and Co. Its time to put the Cabinet/Remain plotters and the Opposition on notice that this Government didn't lose the last GE and they were in fact tasked with getting on with the job of getting the best deal for the UK rather than to capitulate in the face of a relentingly negative wave of media opposition.
  • surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549

    surbiton said:

    Sunday Telegraph stating the BBC will announce the salaries of their presenters next week and it is predicted their is a huge gender pay gap. The salaries quoted, if true, are obscene and the BBC will be lucky to see it's licence fee survive the fury that is coming their way on both the gender gap and the amounts of renumeration

    We also know the bbc have been up to some funny business to hide other salaries by moving them to technically being employed by bbc worldwide but the money still coming from telly tax.
    It is alleged that some stars have been trying to reduce their pay to avoid disclosure.

    And imagine how they are going to cover it on their news channels
    The whole we can't release salaries because we wouldn't get the talent has always been the biggest horseshit going. a) loads of them used to have service companies so those with some knowledge of the biz will be able to look at the outline accounts and have a good idea and b) like footballers salaries, the going rates for major "talent" in movies / tv is well known in the biz because otherwise how would you know what to offer them for a role.
    Their day of reckoning is coming and it could get very difficult for the BBC and their presenters this summer
    On the other hand, for the BBC having to disclose salaries greater than £150k is also ridiculous. £450k may have been a bit too high. £300k , I think could be considered high enough to be disclosed.
    Why is twice the Prime Minister's salary not ridiculous but only exceeding it is? It's as good (or bad) a benchmark as any....typical Labour, defending the better off.....;-p
    Our Prime Minister , Ministers and indeed MPs are badly paid. People compare them with themselves. MPs are not supposed to be "ordinary".

    It's not just the Tory MPs, many of them could earn far higher elsewhere but many Labour MPs could too. And I am not talking about Tony Blair.
  • surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549

    surbiton said:

    FF43 said:

    Truly extraordinary rant against France and all its agents by Jeremy Browne, the City of London's Brexit envoy, in the Mail on Sunday. Apparently the French spitefully see Brexit as an excellent opportunity to to take over Britain's lucrative financial services business. The evil slimebags!

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4700008/City-London-accuses-France-plot-wreck-Britain.html

    The ultimate Brit opt-out. Blame the Frogs !
    Nailed on, I'd say.....the movie Dunkirk is due out shortly.....
    I have to see it. I haven't actually been to the cinema for years !
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,229
    surbiton said:

    surbiton said:

    Sunday Telegraph stating the BBC will announce the salaries of their presenters next week and it is predicted their is a huge gender pay gap. The salaries quoted, if true, are obscene and the BBC will be lucky to see it's licence fee survive the fury that is coming their way on both the gender gap and the amounts of renumeration

    We also know the bbc have been up to some funny business to hide other salaries by moving them to technically being employed by bbc worldwide but the money still coming from telly tax.
    It is alleged that some stars have been trying to reduce their pay to avoid disclosure.

    And imagine how they are going to cover it on their news channels
    The whole we can't release salaries because we wouldn't get the talent has always been the biggest horseshit going. a) loads of them used to have service companies so those with some knowledge of the biz will be able to look at the outline accounts and have a good idea and b) like footballers salaries, the going rates for major "talent" in movies / tv is well known in the biz because otherwise how would you know what to offer them for a role.
    Their day of reckoning is coming and it could get very difficult for the BBC and their presenters this summer
    On the other hand, for the BBC having to disclose salaries greater than £150k is also ridiculous. £450k may have been a bit too high. £300k , I think could be considered high enough to be disclosed.
    Why is twice the Prime Minister's salary not ridiculous but only exceeding it is? It's as good (or bad) a benchmark as any....typical Labour, defending the better off.....;-p
    Carlotta, many, many people earn over £150k. I would do it this way. If they are paid through a service company, then £150k [ the accounts will give us an idea how much they get paid ]. If on PAYE, then £300k.
    Good morning Surbiton!

    Very very few earn over £150,000, the 98th decile for income (before tax) starts at £112,000....... with the 99th starting at £162,000.....so anyone on £150,000 is in the top 1%-2% (and much nearer the top 1%...)
  • surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549
    edited July 2017

    surbiton said:

    surbiton said:

    Sunday Telegraph stating the BBC will announce the salaries of their presenters next week and it is predicted their is a huge gender pay gap. The salaries quoted, if true, are obscene and the BBC will be lucky to see it's licence fee survive the fury that is coming their way on both the gender gap and the amounts of renumeration

    We also know the bbc have been up to some funny business to hide other salaries by moving them to technically being employed by bbc worldwide but the money still coming from telly tax.
    It is alleged that some stars have been trying to reduce their pay to avoid disclosure.

    And imagine how they are going to cover it on their news channels
    The whole we can't release salaries because we wouldn't get the talent has always been the biggest horseshit going. a) loads of them used to have service companies so those with some knowledge of the biz will be able to look at the outline accounts and have a good idea and b) like footballers salaries, the going rates for major "talent" in movies / tv is well known in the biz because otherwise how would you know what to offer them for a role.
    Their day of reckoning is coming and it could get very difficult for the BBC and their presenters this summer
    On the other hand, for the BBC having to disclose salaries greater than £150k is also ridiculous. £450k may have been a bit too high. £300k , I think could be considered high enough to be disclosed.
    Why is twice the Prime Minister's salary not ridiculous but only exceeding it is? It's as good (or bad) a benchmark as any....typical Labour, defending the better off.....;-p
    Carlotta, many, many people earn over £150k. I would do it this way. If they are paid through a service company, then £150k [ the accounts will give us an idea how much they get paid ]. If on PAYE, then £300k.
    Good morning Surbiton!

    Very very few earn over £150,000, the 98th decile for income (before tax) starts at £112,000....... with the 99th starting at £162,000.....so anyone on £150,000 is in the top 1%-2% (and much nearer the top 1%...)
    True. 1% of earners equal 300,000 people. Most probably vote. About 5 constituencies by themselves. The vast majority could walk past you and you would not know them from Adam.
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,229
    surbiton said:

    surbiton said:

    FF43 said:

    Truly extraordinary rant against France and all its agents by Jeremy Browne, the City of London's Brexit envoy, in the Mail on Sunday. Apparently the French spitefully see Brexit as an excellent opportunity to to take over Britain's lucrative financial services business. The evil slimebags!

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4700008/City-London-accuses-France-plot-wreck-Britain.html

    The ultimate Brit opt-out. Blame the Frogs !
    Nailed on, I'd say.....the movie Dunkirk is due out shortly.....
    I have to see it. I haven't actually been to the cinema for years !
    It's probably one of those films that will repay watching on the big screen....no reviews yet:

    https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/dunkirk_2017/
  • surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549

    surbiton said:

    surbiton said:

    FF43 said:

    Truly extraordinary rant against France and all its agents by Jeremy Browne, the City of London's Brexit envoy, in the Mail on Sunday. Apparently the French spitefully see Brexit as an excellent opportunity to to take over Britain's lucrative financial services business. The evil slimebags!

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4700008/City-London-accuses-France-plot-wreck-Britain.html

    The ultimate Brit opt-out. Blame the Frogs !
    Nailed on, I'd say.....the movie Dunkirk is due out shortly.....
    I have to see it. I haven't actually been to the cinema for years !
    It's probably one of those films that will repay watching on the big screen....no reviews yet:

    https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/dunkirk_2017/
    Yes. I think so. Watching movies on planes is not a good idea. OK, off to bed. I'll try to catch a bit more sleep.
  • fitalassfitalass Posts: 4,320
    edited July 2017
    surbiton said:

    chloe said:

    chloe said:

    chloe said:

    chloe said:

    David Davis is not the right answer

    Keep getting e mails for Jacob. Imagine Jacob Rees Mogg v Corbyn
    Corbyn would beat Mogg.
    Why
    I just can't see him attracting voters. He is too sterotypically posh Tory.
    Thought the same about Corbyn once. Mind you I don't see it happening but it does show that someone not yet to the fore can break cover in time
    If May survives for a few years to get through Brexit its probably more likely that a fresh face takes over.
    Any human would do.
    And they would still be better than rent a protest Speaker Corbyn as a Leader or PM.... The Del Boy of GE manifestos...
  • surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549
    I do hope Brexiters would read this soberly. The consequences are quite big. I work with industry. It is not the loss single market which is losing me sleep. It is the customs union. I cannot imagine the paperwork that would be have to be dealt with [ even if it was dealt with electronically ].

    I have been saying this for some time. The only way out of this is a second referendum. People must decide on Brexit when they would know the consequences rather than it being just a bloody wish.

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jul/14/chance-second-brexit-referendum-people-rethink
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