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They were supposed to be so much more numerous, but in the end the new Conservative MPs of 2017 were a fairly select group. The 32 novice MPs on the government benches make up just 10% of the Conservatives’ intake. I’ve therefore compiled a table of the newbies which can be accessed by clicking here. What do we know about them?
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Can we expect a similar one for the new labour intake?
Given that many of them owe their seats to Brexit, they should take a lot more interest in it.
Although not blocking Brexit seems to be enough for half of brexit voters, which is why they voted Labour.
I agree about Rachel Maclean. It was after reading about her that I went on to back her gaining Birmingham Northfield in GE2015.
She has a lot of promise.
Absolutely incredible.
And there's Boris and Govey..... Though in a narrow sense they won the Referendum the excesses of his campaign have probably ruined their careers and possibly the implementatation of the result itself.
The moral of the story? The British have a well developed sense of fair play which shouldn't be underestimated.
And on a technical level they are used to considerably more sophistication than his simple messaging allows which is why the subtlety of our communication is recognised throughout the world unlike the Antipodean model.
Note this is a British ad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWo01rn7O1s
https://youtu.be/pz_UT6tZKbU
And, of course, TSE's.
At least no-one uses them to extol the so-called 'virtues' of Radiohead.
Jeremy Corbyn supporters have won control of a Liverpool Labour group - ousting a council cabinet member and demanding an apology from MP Luciana Berger.
At a meeting of the Wavertree Labour branch last night, nine out of 10 positions on the group’s executive committee went to members of Momentum - the campaign group loyal to the Labour leader.
And a member of the new branch leadership immediately demanded an apology from Wavertree MP Luciana Berger , who resigned from Mr Corbyn’s shadow cabinet last year in the wake of the EU referendum result.
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/jeremy-corbyn-supporters-demand-luciana-13287439.amp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FK073qi0tQ
https://twitter.com/afp/status/882842404595785728
A shame there are so few. Could easily be dozens more. Ah well.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/liam-fox-philippines-rodrigo-duterte-brexit-article-50-trade-a7667031.html
Is Brexit going so badly that we will become cannibals?
Will no one think of the children...
I don't agree with those who claim they owe their seats to Brexit unless that is in the very technical sense that it triggered the election which they won. Brexit only figured in Scotland to the extent that it was used to demonstrate the absurdity of the SNP position, desperate to get out of one Union and yet supposedly desperate to be in another.
For Scotland the election and the Tory success was all about the Union. The key question going forward is whether the formative ideas of the Scottish party becoming independent bear fruit. There is no guarantee that all of the MPs share Ruth's views on this of course but it is possible that by the next election we will have a CDU/CSU relationship. It's an important call for Ruth should that by election come around and she is tempted to the bigger stage.
There have been a few articles - with an emphasis on the new Scottish intake.
http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/june2017/2017/06/scottish-tories-are-coming-how-12-new-mps-can-change-conservative-party
https://www.ft.com/content/408da138-550b-11e7-80b6-9bfa4c1f83d2?mhq5j=e1
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3779380/meet-the-new-and-old-mps-arriving-in-westminster-today-after-their-election-2017-wins-last-week/
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jun/10/new-mps-young-ethnically-diverse
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-40118318
http://www.gileswatling.com/userimages/Copy of Oswald Shot.jpg
Weren't the days of "Tory"'(sic) glory in Scotland more "Unionist"?
Yes, pretty critical of British and NATO strategy in these small wars.
One further point I wish I'd made. With politics becoming more multipolar, the Conservatives have new MPs with experience of local government, the European Parliament, the Scottish Parliament and the London Assembly, as well as spads. There are quite a few raw recruits but one consequence of devolution and EU membership is to make this a very politically experienced cohort.
Or both sides could complain of defeat
I think the majority in the country would be ok with it, particularly if it is 'for now'.
But worth recalling the Eiffel Tower was meant to be temporary.
Buy shares in Betrayal.
https://twitter.com/BBCNewsnight/status/882721353329135616
There are no Kippers to play for in Scotland but there are a lot of people who still acknowledge that the amount the government spends has something to do with the tax that it raises and that if you try to take too much tax you will probably end up with less. These are the target group and Ruth is very well positioned to appeal to them even if the Union becomes less of an issue going forward.
If we crash out on WTO terms and the economy goes tittius verticus do we get some of that tasty foreign aid the big countries dish out?
Morning all
And therein lies the strange tale of the 25 year suicide of the UK.
"We've blown it"
The revealing part of that is that they've blown it by pursuing the purest form of Brexit imaginable
"This is what you voted for"
Umm, no thanks...
I'm afraid your optimism is overdone.
Brexit won the referendum, but there lurked in many the belief that the Establishment would never accept it. Most voters have done, but the fanatics (head-bangers if you like), decided their last chance was to string it our for as long as possible and claim it was all too difficult. Cue - laughter as the head-bangers complained "You won, why aren't you celebrating?" the answer was as above.
So far all going as expected ... But like the last frantic gyrations of a trapped and dying rats, the head-bangers will probably ramp up their efforts.
All to no avail, the boat has sailed, it's too late. The head-bangers efforts are too transparent, and even if they succeeded, the lasting effect on the voters' view of democracy would be Pyrrhic. That's why Remain won't happen.
Victory is ours.
So everything else is pragmatism and up for grabs. We clearly want a free trade deal. We ideally want to keep passporting. We want to remain involved in some aspects of the single market such as patents, air traffic systems, medicine and scientific research. It makes sense to pay an appropriate rate for this. We clearly still need to encourage the skilled and the enthusiastic to come here. We are a million miles from addressing the chronic inadequacies of our education systems and have obvious skill gaps as a result. We want as little disruption to our trade in the short term as possible. Over time I suspect that the EU and EU trade will play a smaller role in our prosperity but that can take care of itself. Is this really going to be that hard?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4e3jmtyLG8k
Have the tories lost interest in the jams?
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/theresa-may-austerity-betrayal-families-living-standards-plunge-tax-credits-benefits-a7825771.html
Which means the probability of it happening must be vanishingly small.
Theresa May has broadly correctly identified the parameters within which Brexit must be carried out, given how the vote was obtained. That is of course catastrophic for Britain but vox populi vox dei.
Lots of interesting work being done in the field of AI lawyering right now too. That's a profession which needs to watch its flesh-and-blood back against the rise of the machines.
I was hoping doing something for the jams meant the Order of Merit for Bill Drummond.
You don't pick turnips (as you know, being a six-fingered gentlemen yourself), Incidentally, you don't pick beans, you pull them, but you do pick peas. But that's been automated for many years.
We managed in the sixties, and fewer people are needed now.
Land work isn't happy Dick van Dyke cockneys picking ripe apples in the summer sunshine. It's wet and cold, windy days, some spent indoors. Long hours and boring work.
Interesting topic from Antifrank. I recall similar regarding the new Conservative MPs in 1997, 2001 and 2005 but the first question they were asked was who they were going to back in the leadership election.
I'm intrigued no one has tried to ascertain which way this not insignificant group of the electorate might jump if and when May goes/is forced out (delete as appropriate). Will these new MPs be May's praetorian guard and stand with her till the end just as Portillo did for Thatcher in 1990 ?
We'll see.
The LD intake has more re-treads than a dodgy tyre workshop. Layla Moran might be one to keep an eye on in the coming years.
On matters European, once again the warp and weft of mood, rumour, counter-rumour etc.
To paraphrase Dean Acheson "Great Britain has voluntarily left a failing supra-national political and economic organisation and has yet to find a role". I keep coming back to what I see as the central problem/question/dilemma and it's one of identity. 23/6/16 defined what we didn't want in terms of being part of the European Union but it didn't define what we did want and it was obvious then (and more so now) that those of us who voted LEAVE came to that decision for a myriad of different reasons and with a myriad of expectations for the future.
That debate or conversation has simply not started. May's line which is effectively "don't worry your pretty little heads about it, trust me, I'll sort it out" wasn't good enough to win her a majority and rightly so. It is encumbent on us all to consider what kind of Britain we want in the 2020s. Like many others, I want us to be open, international and global in aspect, culture and outlook but I don't want us simply to be a larger version of Singapore or Hong Kong providing cleaners, drivers and properties for the world's hyper-rich and hoping to bask vicariously in their wealth.
He works for a leave side newspaper but I have my doubts he is on the same side,so only natural he doing a scott.
Brexit will prove less exciting and less disappointing than most of the current media indicates.
Good song though.
Course Theresa wants the JAMs on the high street spending their limited funds.
https://twitter.com/skzcartoons/status/882835077549445120
Self aware much?