Now you're just being silly, we've covered the indyref questions numerous times on PB, if you're miffed some nat voters won't vote yes, take it up with them.
You can't claim I'm being silly while trying to misrepresent support for DevoPlus as something it's not. There's actual real figures on the Ipsos Mori which shows the correct amount of SNP voters who will vote No on the referendum question, but you simply overreached and tried to spin your own poll which is on a hypothetical that won't apply.
It would be like only relying on polling on how many people would vote tory if Boris was leader. It's just not on the cards and he isn't even an MP so it has no bearing on the general election result. Unless he somehow gets in and is made tory leader before 2015. None of which looks remotely likely right now.
No Mick I simply pointed out that while you say there are Lab voters who will vote yes, there are also SNP voters who will vote no. Nats like to claim they are an indivisible block, but the truth as ever is more complex. If 23% of Sinn Fein voters when surveyed said they'd vote to stay in the UK, why should the SNP be different ?
The humane, utterly non-partisan support for Peter Cruddas on here today tugs at my heart strings, it really does. When the story first broke, I dreamt that hundreds of scathing 'Come Dine with Dave' comments were posted about the matter, seemingly aimed at discrediting the Tories. What made me imagine something so improbable and so bizarre?
Geez guys, their son got chased down a London street, and ran, absolutely terrified for his life, got caught and then got repeatedly stabbed and left for dead, and then died, all at the hands of a bunch of horrible, racist bullies, who bragged about it, showed zero remorse for it and due to the incompetence and bigotry of the police handling it, got away with it, wearing arrogant grins and waving middle fingers as they strutted free out of caught.
If I was Stephen Lawrence's mother I wouldn't have ever gotten over it either.
It was dreadful. And I hope those smarmy evil bastards serving time for it get bullied for the rest of their lives by the Yardies in prison.
Now you're just being silly, we've covered the indyref questions numerous times on PB, if you're miffed some nat voters won't vote yes, take it up with them.
You can't claim I'm being silly while trying to misrepresent support for DevoPlus as something it's not. There's actual real figures on the Ipsos Mori which shows the correct amount of SNP voters who will vote No on the referendum question, but you simply overreached and tried to spin your own poll which is on a hypothetical that won't apply.
It would be like only relying on polling on how many people would vote tory if Boris was leader. It's just not on the cards and he isn't even an MP so it has no bearing on the general election result. Unless he somehow gets in and is made tory leader before 2015. None of which looks remotely likely right now.
No Mick I simply pointed out that while you say there are Lab voters who will vote yes, there are also SNP voters who will vote no.
Which the Ipsos Mori poll does on the precise same page where the support of all the other parties are shown. Correctly. On the issue which is on the ballot not a hypothetical that simply does not apply.
Nats like to claim they are an indivisible block, but the truth as ever is more complex.
Bollocks. That's twice now I've pointed out where relevant figures are that show that there are SNP voters who oppose independence just as there are lib dems and even some tories who support independence.
It's only the idiots who were trying to imply that there was virtually no labour support for independence when that simply isn't that case.
It seems that the SNP has been infiltrated by Labour supporters intent on sabotage. I believe there is a frequent " Nationalist " poster on PB who belongs to this cell.
Now you're just being silly, we've covered the indyref questions numerous times on PB, if you're miffed some nat voters won't vote yes, take it up with them.
You can't claim I'm being silly while trying to misrepresent support for DevoPlus as something it's not. There's actual real figures on the Ipsos Mori which shows the correct amount of SNP voters who will vote No on the referendum question, but you simply overreached and tried to spin your own poll which is on a hypothetical that won't apply.
It would be like only relying on polling on how many people would vote tory if Boris was leader. It's just not on the cards and he isn't even an MP so it has no bearing on the general election result. Unless he somehow gets in and is made tory leader before 2015. None of which looks remotely likely right now.
No Mick I simply pointed out that while you say there are Lab voters who will vote yes, there are also SNP voters who will vote no.
Which the Ipsos Mori poll does on the precise same page where the support of all the other parties are shown. Correctly. On the issue which is on the ballot not a hypothetical that simply does not apply.
Nats like to claim they are an indivisible block, but the truth as ever is more complex.
Bollocks. That's twice now I've pointed out where relevant figures are that show that there are SNP voters who oppose independence just as there are lib dems and even some tories who support independence.
It's only the idiots who were trying to imply that there was virtually no labour support for independence when that simply isn't that case.
Well then it looks like we violently agree on the issue. Some labourites will vote Yes and some SNPers will vote No.
My local high street (Parkway, Camden) has had about 10-15% of its shopfronts unoccupied since the beginning of the Great Recession.
Today, for the first time since I moved here, every single shopfront is either active, or being obviously revamped, or has a brand new LET sign in front of it.
The recession is obviously over in London, and has probably been over for some time.
Very interesting and certainly tallies with my own experience of the wealthier parts of Berkshire. I think Osborne will be pleased at the way the key political weapons are being handed out at present: he has a blossoming recovery after the greatest recession in living memory; Labour's got his father-in-law.
We can live without knowing who got 6th place in desolate Yorkshire.
The seats won by Conservatives in 2009 were 3 in London 4 in SE 3 in SW 3 in East 2 in EM 3 in WM (after Lisbon) 2 in Yorkshire 3 in NW 1 in NE 1 in Scotland
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Your display of feeling for a millionaire Tory donor today does you great credit. And people accuse you of being partisan!
Geez guys, their son got chased down a London street, and ran, absolutely terrified for his life, got caught and then got repeatedly stabbed and left for dead, and then died, all at the hands of a bunch of horrible, racist bullies, who bragged about it, showed zero remorse for it and due to the incompetence and bigotry of the police handling it, got away with it, wearing arrogant grins and waving middle fingers as they strutted free out of caught.
If I was Stephen Lawrence's mother I wouldn't have ever gotten over it either.
It was dreadful. And I hope those smarmy evil bastards serving time for it get bullied for the rest of their lives by the Yardies in prison.
It's only the idiots who were trying to imply that there was virtually no labour support for independence when that simply isn't that case.
It seems that the SNP has been infiltrated by Labour supporters intent on sabotage. I believe there is a frequent " Nationalist " poster on PB who belongs to this cell.
Thanks for all the useful info, Andrea.