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  • Scrapheap_as_wasScrapheap_as_was Posts: 10,069
    edited July 2013
    Happy Days!

    As the political and school year ends, any chance of a thread showing how overall polls and betfair has moved since Sept 2012 and what OGH concludes?

    Other than obviously Ed is crap & Dan H is the new red messiah.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 38,885
    FPT:

    MaxPB said:

    Fancy having an adviser about the internet who doesn't actually know how the internet works?!?

    Problem for Guido is that he was 'hosting' links on his website yesterday. She has Google Analytics working on her site so it's likely to have recorded some of the inbound links coming direct from Guido's site. He removed them pretty quickly but they were there at the time of her comments.
    What difference does that make? She is alleging that he sponsored the hack on her website (an illegal activity) when anyone with half a brain would know that isn't true. Guido may be a lot of things, but there is no way he would get in the mud like that. It's far more likely that 4chan or Anonymous were pissed off with her incessant hectoring about porn and hacked her website to prove a point. One that she has now made for them (that she is technologically illiterate) by accusing Guido of "sponsoring" said attack.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 38,885

    MaxPB said:


    What difference does that make? She is alleging that he sponsored the hack on her website (an illegal activity) when anyone with half a brain would know that isn't true. Guido may be a lot of things, but there is no way he would get in the mud like that. It's far more likely that 4chan or Anonymous were pissed off with her incessant hectoring about porn and hacked her website to prove a point. One that she has now made for them (that she is technologically illiterate) by accusing Guido of "sponsoring" said attack.

    Point is that Guido is claiming he that wasn't hosting links when he was, and that is now being used against her "doesn't know what a link is" when it was false.

    Her use of language around sponsorship was loose admittedly.
    Do you have evidence of her Google analytics that Guido was linking to her hacked site (not that it makes a difference) because I'm prepared to take Guido's word for it that he just hosted a picture and didn't link to it given that it would be NSFW and his advertising partners probably don't want him linking to NSFW content to ensure his site doesn't end up on filter lists.
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633

    Happy Days!

    As the political and school year ends, any chance of a thread showing how overall polls and betfair has moved since Sept 2012 and what OGH concludes?

    Other than obviously Ed is crap & Dan H is the new red messiah.

    Interesting on betfair (I don't know where OGH gets his trade history data from) is how the "overall majority" market has swung a lot from Labour to NOM yet Labour "most seats" has hardly twitched.
  • JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    Baby Cambridge Name - After the last few days quizzes I'm opting for :

    Philip of Spain

    Titters ....

  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,712
    edited July 2013
    O/T:

    Julian Gregory selected by LDs in Islington North.

    Terry Stacy selected by LDs in Islington South.

    http://eastmidslibdems.org.uk/en/page/weekly-briefing-11-july-2013
  • JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    edited July 2013
    FPT @NickPalmer wrote to @JackW

    "Duh - I don't often write acid comments, and I just made a couple of jokey ones about the baby name thread. Is your humour detector working?

    But can be hard to detect when a post is a joke. Apologies to anyone fond of babies who was offended!"

    Accepted Nick .... Will we sight you on this thread !!

    LOL
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,243
    Labour majority on Betfair is great value at ~ 2.8 I think.
  • MikeSmithsonMikeSmithson Posts: 7,382
    It's a great idea but it requires historical betting .data - and unless I've run a thread or Tweeted it's hard to find out the figures.

    Since the start of this year I've been doing regular GE betting odds pieces partly to provide an historical record.

    Happy Days!

    As the political and school year ends, any chance of a thread showing how overall polls and betfair has moved since Sept 2012 and what OGH concludes?

    Other than obviously Ed is crap & Dan H is the new red messiah.

  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    Breaking news: Nadine ordered to repay expenses

    Enter tim from left...

  • MaxPB said:



    Do you have evidence of her Google analytics that Guido was linking to her hacked site (not that it makes a difference) because I'm prepared to take Guido's word for it that he just hosted a picture and didn't link to it given that it would be NSFW and his advertising partners probably don't want him linking to NSFW content to ensure his site doesn't end up on filter lists.

    No but I saw the links on his site after the twitter spat, which is what she claimed was there.

  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,243
    MaxPB said:

    FPT:

    MaxPB said:

    Fancy having an adviser about the internet who doesn't actually know how the internet works?!?

    Problem for Guido is that he was 'hosting' links on his website yesterday. She has Google Analytics working on her site so it's likely to have recorded some of the inbound links coming direct from Guido's site. He removed them pretty quickly but they were there at the time of her comments.
    What difference does that make? She is alleging that he sponsored the hack on her website (an illegal activity) when anyone with half a brain would know that isn't true. Guido may be a lot of things, but there is no way he would get in the mud like that. It's far more likely that 4chan or Anonymous were pissed off with her incessant hectoring about porn and hacked her website to prove a point. One that she has now made for them (that she is technologically illiterate) by accusing Guido of "sponsoring" said attack.
    4chan is a hoot, but definitely NSFW !
  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    @Andy_JS I am a resident of Islington South. I'm now considering whether it is actionable to suggest that I live in the East Midlands.
  • Stuart_DicksonStuart_Dickson Posts: 3,557
    Pulpstar said:

    Labour majority on Betfair is great value at ~ 2.8 I think.

    That is the first time LAB MAJ has been longer than NOM in a while.

    Next UK GE - best prices:

    Hung parliament 13/8 (Ladbrokes)
    Labour majority 28/17 (Betfair)
    Conservative majority 4/1 (Paddy Power)
  • RichardNabaviRichardNabavi Posts: 3,413
    Great Marf! She's enjoying this, isn't she?
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633

    Pulpstar said:

    Labour majority on Betfair is great value at ~ 2.8 I think.

    That is the first time LAB MAJ has been longer than NOM in a while.

    Next UK GE - best prices:

    Hung parliament 13/8 (Ladbrokes)
    Labour majority 28/17 (Betfair)
    Conservative majority 4/1 (Paddy Power)
    Was sub 2.2 on betfair around 2 months ago.

  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 42,971
    MaxPB said:

    MaxPB said:


    What difference does that make? She is alleging that he sponsored the hack on her website (an illegal activity) when anyone with half a brain would know that isn't true. Guido may be a lot of things, but there is no way he would get in the mud like that. It's far more likely that 4chan or Anonymous were pissed off with her incessant hectoring about porn and hacked her website to prove a point. One that she has now made for them (that she is technologically illiterate) by accusing Guido of "sponsoring" said attack.

    Point is that Guido is claiming he that wasn't hosting links when he was, and that is now being used against her "doesn't know what a link is" when it was false.

    Her use of language around sponsorship was loose admittedly.
    Do you have evidence of her Google analytics that Guido was linking to her hacked site (not that it makes a difference) because I'm prepared to take Guido's word for it that he just hosted a picture and didn't link to it given that it would be NSFW and his advertising partners probably don't want him linking to NSFW content to ensure his site doesn't end up on filter lists.
    Whether Guido linked to the page or not (and I have no idea if he did), Perry is utterly out of order. You do not go accusing people of sponsoring hack attacks without good evidence. Guido may have exploited her misfortune, but her reaction was unworthy of a politician.

    There comes a time when it is best to see you are in the wrong, back down and apologise. It is best if that is done early. It is now far too late for Perry to do that without severe embarrassment (deserved, IMHO). I guess Boris or Livingstone would have reacted very differently.
  • CarolaCarola Posts: 1,805
    'MPs announce new inquiry into Underachievement in Education by White Working Class Children':

    http://www.parliament.uk/business/committees/committees-a-z/commons-select/education-committee/news/working-class-white-underachievement/
  • Stuart_DicksonStuart_Dickson Posts: 3,557
    edited July 2013

    It's a great idea but it requires historical betting .data - and unless I've run a thread or Tweeted it's hard to find out the figures.

    Since the start of this year I've been doing regular GE betting odds pieces partly to provide an historical record.

    Happy Days!

    As the political and school year ends, any chance of a thread showing how overall polls and betfair has moved since Sept 2012 and what OGH concludes?

    Other than obviously Ed is crap & Dan H is the new red messiah.

    Oddschecker has all the historical betting data.

    Eg. on the overall maj chart, click on the square graph icon before "Conservative Majority" and you get a pop-up. Then click on the "All history" file, and Hey Presto! all the figures for all the bookies+betfair going back to 2010.

    http://www.oddschecker.com/politics-and-election/next-uk-general-election/overall-majority
  • Stuart_DicksonStuart_Dickson Posts: 3,557
    Shadsy's first price for CON MAJ, on 10th May 2010, was 10/11 ! :)

    Now 3/1.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,243

    Shadsy's first price for CON MAJ, on 10th May 2010, was 10/11 ! :)

    Now 3/1.

    Thats a great bet. For Shadsy ;)
  • RichardNabaviRichardNabavi Posts: 3,413
    tim said:

    It appears Claire Perry was at Brasenose College around the same time as David Cameron.

    How many more can there be?

    https://twitter.com/DocHackenbush/status/360061063900848128/photo/1

    Just for you, tim: Toby Young.

    Mind you, against that there's George Monbiot.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,243
    tim said:

    Shadsy's first price for CON MAJ, on 10th May 2010, was 10/11 ! :)

    Now 3/1.


    William Hill went 9/1 on a Lab Maj around that time.
    9-1 ! Ridiculous lol... Missed that rick.
  • MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053
    PLease inform Marf that nappies haven't been changed for more that 40 years: they are simply thrown away since Pampers and the like appeared on the market.

    Other than that a great laugh Marf.
  • surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549
    TGOHF said:

    Happy Days!

    As the political and school year ends, any chance of a thread showing how overall polls and betfair has moved since Sept 2012 and what OGH concludes?

    Other than obviously Ed is crap & Dan H is the new red messiah.

    Interesting on betfair (I don't know where OGH gets his trade history data from) is how the "overall majority" market has swung a lot from Labour to NOM yet Labour "most seats" has hardly twitched.
    Why should it ? Labour MAJ Labour most seats. NOM of a certain variety can also mean the same.
  • NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 21,543
    JackW said:

    FPT @NickPalmer wrote to @JackW

    "Duh - I don't often write acid comments, and I just made a couple of jokey ones about the baby name thread. Is your humour detector working?

    But can be hard to detect when a post is a joke. Apologies to anyone fond of babies who was offended!"

    Accepted Nick .... Will we sight you on this thread !!

    LOL

    I'll just eye you acidly, Jack, and hope for a baby-free thread later. :-)
  • taffystaffys Posts: 9,753
    Labour majority on Betfair is great value at ~ 2.8 I think.

    Agreed but given the vagaries of polls etc. there will probably be a number of good chances to get into this trade.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,243
    tim said:

    Ladbrokes Politics ‏@LadPolitics
    Who'll be TIME person of the year?
    33/1 @Pontifex
    66/1 @RichardDawkins
    More selections here http://bit.ly/139UOYx

    Malala Yousafzai 5/1 is a bet surely.

    I thought she was a good shot last year. Then they gave it to Barack O bloody Bama, staying out of it this year.
  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    Pulpstar said:

    tim said:

    Shadsy's first price for CON MAJ, on 10th May 2010, was 10/11 ! :)

    Now 3/1.


    William Hill went 9/1 on a Lab Maj around that time.
    9-1 ! Ridiculous lol... Missed that rick.
    It's one of my favourite bets in my current selection of unsettled bets. It's a shame that I only got a few pounds on it, but Mr Hill wouldn't allow me more.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 42,971
    edited July 2013
    Carola said:

    'MPs announce new inquiry into Underachievement in Education by White Working Class Children':

    http://www.parliament.uk/business/committees/committees-a-z/commons-select/education-committee/news/working-class-white-underachievement/

    Earlier today I was reading about iodine deficiency (1), and the way that can cause mental retardation and associated academic underachievement. Allegedly adding iodine to table salt (2) in 1924 raised US IQ by 15 points (usual caveats apply)

    Interesting stuff that I had never heard of before. It looks like the UK may have problems with iodine deficiency as well (3).

    (1): http://www.businessinsider.com/iodization-effect-on-iq-2013-7
    (2): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iodised_salt
    (3): http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-13034582

    (edit prevent!=cause)
  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    Pulpstar said:

    tim said:

    Ladbrokes Politics ‏@LadPolitics
    Who'll be TIME person of the year?
    33/1 @Pontifex
    66/1 @RichardDawkins
    More selections here http://bit.ly/139UOYx

    Malala Yousafzai 5/1 is a bet surely.

    I thought she was a good shot last year. Then they gave it to Barack O bloody Bama, staying out of it this year.
    If the accolade is performance related, surely it must go to GO?

  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    Oh dear - Claire Perry's spat with Guido has just appeared on BuzzFeed.

    http://www.buzzfeed.com/jwherrman/britains-leading-anti-porn-politician-doesnt-seem-to-know-ho
  • RichardNabaviRichardNabavi Posts: 3,413
    edited July 2013
    I'd have thought Angela Merkel at 20/1 was the best value of the current selection, but it's a bit early to play.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,243
    tim said:

    Pulpstar said:

    tim said:

    Ladbrokes Politics ‏@LadPolitics
    Who'll be TIME person of the year?
    33/1 @Pontifex
    66/1 @RichardDawkins
    More selections here http://bit.ly/139UOYx

    Malala Yousafzai 5/1 is a bet surely.

    I thought she was a good shot last year. Then they gave it to Barack O bloody Bama, staying out of it this year.
    Getting shot in the head by the Taliban, getting up and addressing them at the UN basically saying "Come and have a go if you think you're hard enough" has to make her favourite ahead of a weasel like Snowden doesn't it?

    Snowden is terrible value at 3-1, that much is certain.
  • taffystaffys Posts: 9,753
    If the accolade is performance related, surely it must go to GO?

    Well Time gave it to Hitler in '38 and Stalin in '39, so it depends what performance monitor one uses, I suppose.
  • anotherDaveanotherDave Posts: 6,746

    Carola said:

    'MPs announce new inquiry into Underachievement in Education by White Working Class Children':

    http://www.parliament.uk/business/committees/committees-a-z/commons-select/education-committee/news/working-class-white-underachievement/

    Earlier today I was reading about iodine deficiency (1), and the way that can cause mental retardation and associated academic underachievement. Allegedly adding iodine to table salt (2) in 1924 raised US IQ by 15 points (usual caveats apply)

    Interesting stuff that I had never heard of before. It looks like the UK may have problems with iodine deficiency as well (3).

    (1): http://www.businessinsider.com/iodization-effect-on-iq-2013-7
    (2): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iodised_salt
    (3): http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-13034582

    (edit prevent!=cause)
    Adding iodine to the national salt supply also apparently killed people.

    "People who suffer long-term iodine deficiency can actually end up with from hyperthyroidism when it's introduced to their diet, so deaths spiked for a few years."

    Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/iodization-effect-on-iq-2013-7
  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    tim said:

    AveryLP said:

    Pulpstar said:

    tim said:

    Ladbrokes Politics ‏@LadPolitics
    Who'll be TIME person of the year?
    33/1 @Pontifex
    66/1 @RichardDawkins
    More selections here http://bit.ly/139UOYx

    Malala Yousafzai 5/1 is a bet surely.

    I thought she was a good shot last year. Then they gave it to Barack O bloody Bama, staying out of it this year.
    If the accolade is performance related, surely it must go to GO?


    It's easy to confuse their courage.
    Osborne hides behind Chloe Smith and briefs that the women in cabinet aren't safe in their jobs whereas



    At the age of 12

    Yousafzai's defiance of the Taliban rubbed off on his daughter, Malala.
    "She stood like a rock beside me," he says. In September 2008, Yousafzai took Malala to Peshawar to speak to the local press club.
    "How dare the Taliban take away my basic right to education?" Malala told her audience. She explained how she would never bow to the Taliban's demands and how she hid her textbooks under her clothes while walking to school.


    http://www.thestar.com/news/world/2009/10/26/brave_defiance_in_pakistans_swat_valley.html


    Tough call.
    tim

    You are muddling process and output.

    Again.

  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,243

    I'd have thought Angela Merkel at 20/1 was the best value of the current selection, but it's a bit early to play.

    On the other hand expecting these 2 bets to come in:

    Victoria @ 10/1William and Kate's Baby SpecialsOpen
    First Name of William and Kates baby
    Stake: £2.50Potential Returns: £27.50
    Single To Win


    Elizabeth @ 16/1William and Kate's Baby SpecialsOpen
    First Name of William and Kates baby
    Stake: £1.56Potential Returns: £26.52

    Could be labelled 'optimistic'
  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    tim said:

    AveryLP said:

    tim said:

    AveryLP said:

    Pulpstar said:

    tim said:

    Ladbrokes Politics ‏@LadPolitics
    Who'll be TIME person of the year?
    33/1 @Pontifex
    66/1 @RichardDawkins
    More selections here http://bit.ly/139UOYx

    Malala Yousafzai 5/1 is a bet surely.

    I thought she was a good shot last year. Then they gave it to Barack O bloody Bama, staying out of it this year.
    If the accolade is performance related, surely it must go to GO?


    It's easy to confuse their courage.
    Osborne hides behind Chloe Smith and briefs that the women in cabinet aren't safe in their jobs whereas



    At the age of 12

    Yousafzai's defiance of the Taliban rubbed off on his daughter, Malala.
    "She stood like a rock beside me," he says. In September 2008, Yousafzai took Malala to Peshawar to speak to the local press club.
    "How dare the Taliban take away my basic right to education?" Malala told her audience. She explained how she would never bow to the Taliban's demands and how she hid her textbooks under her clothes while walking to school.


    http://www.thestar.com/news/world/2009/10/26/brave_defiance_in_pakistans_swat_valley.html


    Tough call.
    tim

    You are muddling process and output.

    Again.


    Can Claire Perry be given the Maria Hutchings annual award, despite being a "Mother Of Three" rather than a "Local Mother of Four", never sure how "As a Father" Dave nominates these people.
    Maria ... Madiba ... Malala

    I am beginning to notice a pattern.

    As a father of six, I think it has to go to Madiba.

  • NextNext Posts: 826
    tim said:

    According to someone who was in the talks between the Conservatives and the Lib Dems, the length of the fixed-term parliament was changed at the last moment from four years to five. Most debate about the merits of fixed-term parliaments in the past has assumed a four-year term, as this reflects the usual length of time between elections in recent British history. Late in the discussions, however, George Osborne simply crossed out “four” and wrote in “five”

    http://blogs.independent.co.uk/2013/07/24/how-george-osborne-denied-us-an-election-next-year/

    So George achieves more for his aims, with the stroke of a pen, than the countless words you type on here each day.

    No wonder you don't like him.
  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    tim said:

    George Osborne simply crossed out “four” and wrote in “five”

    That's what you get when you have a Chancellor who can take two and two and make it add up to five.

  • richardDoddrichardDodd Posts: 5,472
    Tony Blair should get it as the outstanding Peace envoy of the year..bringing peace to....erm hmm..Oh, I know, his bank manager sleeps well at night
  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    tim said:

    AveryLP said:

    tim said:

    AveryLP said:

    tim said:

    AveryLP said:

    Pulpstar said:

    tim said:

    Ladbrokes Politics ‏@LadPolitics
    Who'll be TIME person of the year?
    33/1 @Pontifex
    66/1 @RichardDawkins
    More selections here http://bit.ly/139UOYx

    Malala Yousafzai 5/1 is a bet surely.

    I thought she was a good shot last year. Then they gave it to Barack O bloody Bama, staying out of it this year.
    If the accolade is performance related, surely it must go to GO?


    It's easy to confuse their courage.
    Osborne hides behind Chloe Smith and briefs that the women in cabinet aren't safe in their jobs whereas



    At the age of 12

    Yousafzai's defiance of the Taliban rubbed off on his daughter, Malala.
    "She stood like a rock beside me," he says. In September 2008, Yousafzai took Malala to Peshawar to speak to the local press club.
    "How dare the Taliban take away my basic right to education?" Malala told her audience. She explained how she would never bow to the Taliban's demands and how she hid her textbooks under her clothes while walking to school.


    http://www.thestar.com/news/world/2009/10/26/brave_defiance_in_pakistans_swat_valley.html


    Tough call.
    tim

    You are muddling process and output.

    Again.


    Can Claire Perry be given the Maria Hutchings annual award, despite being a "Mother Of Three" rather than a "Local Mother of Four", never sure how "As a Father" Dave nominates these people.
    Maria ... Madiba ... Malala

    I am beginning to notice a pattern.

    As a father of six, I think it has to go to Madiba.

    Will he last longer on this earth than Perry in her porn job?


    He will live in our hearts forever, tim.

  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    edited July 2013
    This is great news for EdM. Or so we've been told.

    "The general secretary of Britain's biggest union launched a furious attack on the way Labour's Westminter leadership handled the allegations that Unite attempted to rig the selection of a parliamentary candidate in Falkirk.

    He said that the "crisis", which has prompted a police investigation, had pushed Labour's historic relationship with the union movement which founded the party "to breaking point".

    In his speech, to an audience of union members, Mr McCluskey set out his first detailed response to Mr Miliband's proposals to reform the historic links between Labour and the unions. He set out his terms for accepting Mr Miliband's plan, which will see every affiliated union member asked for the first time to "opt in" to Labour membership, rather than being automatically enrolled.

    Mr McCluskey said he believed that it was right to reform Labour's relations with the unions. However, he demanded far reaching powers for unions in return.

    Members who join Labour under the new arrangements must have "the right" to take part in choosing Labour candidates for Westminster and to an equal say in the election of party leaders.

    New Labour's influence must be radically reined in, he said, singling out Lord Sainsbury, the Blairite donor to Labour and former minister, for particular criticism.

    Mr McCluskey condemned Labour's approach to his union, saying the party had taken union donations "for granted" while rejecting their "input" into policy... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/10199819/Len-McCluskey-Unite-must-have-more-power-over-Labour.html

  • Scrapheap_as_wasScrapheap_as_was Posts: 10,069
    Non-story ain't over yet.

    "This row isn’t over yet by any means..."

    http://labourlist.org/2013/07/party-hq-confirm-that-their-falkirk-report-wont-be-made-public/
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 42,971

    Carola said:

    'MPs announce new inquiry into Underachievement in Education by White Working Class Children':

    http://www.parliament.uk/business/committees/committees-a-z/commons-select/education-committee/news/working-class-white-underachievement/

    Earlier today I was reading about iodine deficiency (1), and the way that can cause mental retardation and associated academic underachievement. Allegedly adding iodine to table salt (2) in 1924 raised US IQ by 15 points (usual caveats apply)

    Interesting stuff that I had never heard of before. It looks like the UK may have problems with iodine deficiency as well (3).

    (1): http://www.businessinsider.com/iodization-effect-on-iq-2013-7
    (2): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iodised_salt
    (3): http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-13034582

    (edit prevent!=cause)
    Adding iodine to the national salt supply also apparently killed people.

    "People who suffer long-term iodine deficiency can actually end up with from hyperthyroidism when it's introduced to their diet, so deaths spiked for a few years."

    Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/iodization-effect-on-iq-2013-7
    Yes, it is a road that will have to be carefully travelled, if at all. Although it may be common knowledge to some, I can't recall having heard of it. It is yet another sign that a healthy, balanced diet is vital.
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    George Osborne tweets: "Mark Carney’s choice of Jane Austen as face of £10 note is great. After understandable row over lack of women, shows sense and sensibility"
  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724

    Non-story ain't over yet.

    "This row isn’t over yet by any means..."

    http://labourlist.org/2013/07/party-hq-confirm-that-their-falkirk-report-wont-be-made-public/

    I wonder how long before it's leaked to Guido? Tick Tock.
  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    OT If you're into pix - this blog about lightning is ace http://www.lewiswhyld.com/the-lightning-blog/
  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815

    George Osborne tweets: "Mark Carney’s choice of Jane Austen as face of £10 note is great. After understandable row over lack of women, shows sense and sensibility"

    I guess Carney didn't need much persuasion.

  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    Iain Martin adds his 2p

    "...No, OK, Len McCluskey didn't do any of that. Actually he unleashed a bizarre rant via a webcast to Union members in which he laid down the law to the Labour leader and castigated the party over the way in which it has handled the investigation into allegations of a fandango in Falkirk. McCluskey likes to range far and wide, sneering at the rich (which doesn't cover very well-paid trade union leaders it seems) and beating up on Tony Blair, a Labour leader who had the temerity to win three general elections.

    McCluskey said today that he supports Ed Miliband's proposed reforms on party funding, which could mean an end to the political levy as currently constituted, but only it seems fair to assume because the new arrangements might give him and other unions extra power over policy and candidate selection. In this way Miliband's attempt to diminish the power of the trade unions is going to be used by unions bosses to secure more power. What a mess.

    But the overwhelming feeling his rants induce in this observer is mild depression leavened with the thought that the Unite agenda is unlikely to be very popular in most of the country. Who wants to live in a country run by Len McCluskey or according to his doctrines? What a narrow, divisive, bleak and outmoded approach he embodies.

    For all the tedious screeching about "werkin' peeeple" one gets the impression that the only "werkin' people" of which Len approves are those people working in jobs where they can be members of Unite or of the other large unions. The rest of us are bourgeois lackeys and capitalist running dogs, no matter how hard any of us work. Dare to get on or become modestly affluent in any way other than becoming a trade union leader and you are "rich". And being "rich" obviously involves leaching off, you guessed it, the "werkin' people"..." http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/iainmartin1/100227937/who-wants-to-live-in-len-mccluskeys-britain/

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0
    edited July 2013

    George Osborne tweets: "Mark Carney’s choice of Jane Austen as face of £10 note is great. After understandable row over lack of women, shows sense and sensibility"


    Much better than the Pride and Prejudice from Tim all day.

    I'll get me coat!

  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    @Plato - McCluskey ranted at the Daily Mail too

    "My message to Paul Dackery (sic) is clear. We know you are sleazy bullies. We know you love to kick the poor while you lick the boots of the rich. We know you loathe women in public life. But if you think you will break the unions you are as stupid as your predecessors who said hooray for the blackshirts”.

    - which Tim Shipman reminded him is his members' most popular newspaper!

    I remember how the Mail absolutely loathed Margaret Thatcher's role in public life! They are pretty iffy over the queen and hated Diana.......
  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    This is very funny http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/10200574/Sketch-Michael-Goves-old-school-rhythms.html

    "...As regular readers of this sketch will know, Mr Gove is not the first senior Tory with an enthusiasm for hip-hop. Sir Alec Douglas-Home was a keen devotee of both Ghostface Killah and Lethal Bizzle. At Eton, Jacob Rees-Mogg earned the nickname “Snoop Moggy Mogg” for his energetic renditions, after lights out, of Public Enemy’s Fight the Power and Three 6 Mafia’s Hard Out Here for a Pimp. David Cameron, meanwhile, regularly impresses visitors to Chequers with performances as his hip-hop alter ego, the Rhyme Minister.

    This afternoon, at a Q&A session in London hosted by the market research company Populus, Mr Gove was asked what he’d rapped about at the dinner party. A traditional topic, perhaps, such as the institutional racial bias of the US legal system, or the iniquities of the modern ho.

    In fact, it emerged that Mr Gove had chosen a topic even closer to the hearts of urban youth. “I was rapping,” he said, “in praise of Toby Young, whose West London Free School has just been ranked by Ofsted as having outstanding features.”

    Readers unfamiliar with hip-hop trends may imagine Ofsted inspections to be a new subject for rap, but on the contrary it is well-covered ground, with hits in recent years for Jay Z’s Developing Skillz (Across Da Curriculum), Kanye West’s Excellent Understanding of Cultural Diversity, and Flo Rida’s Judgment Day (Send Da Bad Kids Home).

    Today Mr Gove declined to demonstrate his rapping prowess. Fortunately, The Daily Telegraph has seen a copy of his lyric sheet, and is able to publish an exclusive extract.

    “Outstanding features/ And effective teachers/ Dis school’s beyond da reaches/ Of union leeches/ And Left-wing ideological preachers/ The baldie who founded it is a bit big for his breeches/ But da headmaster’s speeches/ Are absolute peaches/ And there ain’t been no breaches/ Of professional standards of conduct as far as Ofsted inspectors have been able to ascertain/ West London Free School massive, make some noiiiise.”
  • taffystaffys Posts: 9,753
    "werkin' peeeple"

    Which also include......er.....non-werkin Peeeple. Unite encourages the jobless to sign up, too.
  • CarolaCarola Posts: 1,805
    Baby name in 15mins according to Telegraph tweet.
  • taffystaffys Posts: 9,753
    Len McCluskey's Britain.

    Good slogan for the tories, that.
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    The Gove rap:

    "Outstanding features/ And effective teachers/ Dis school’s beyond da reaches/ Of union leeches/ And Left-wing ideological preachers/ The baldie who founded it is a bit big for his breeches/ But da headmaster’s speeches/ Are absolute peaches/ And there ain’t been no breaches/ Of professional standards of conduct as far as Ofsted inspectors have been able to ascertain/ West London Free School massive, make some noiiiise.”

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/10200574/Sketch-Michael-Goves-old-school-rhythms.html
  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    It isn't often that its impossible to parody someone - Mr McCluskey is one of them. A rare talent.

    @Plato - McCluskey ranted at the Daily Mail too

    "My message to Paul Dackery (sic) is clear. We know you are sleazy bullies. We know you love to kick the poor while you lick the boots of the rich. We know you loathe women in public life. But if you think you will break the unions you are as stupid as your predecessors who said hooray for the blackshirts”.

    - which Tim Shipman reminded him is his members' most popular newspaper!

    I remember how the Mail absolutely loathed Margaret Thatcher's role in public life! They are pretty iffy over the queen and hated Diana.......

  • Scrapheap_as_wasScrapheap_as_was Posts: 10,069
    Ebeneezer Good Wenceslas Tobermory Windsor

    Who'd had guessed that.
  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    George Alexander Louis
  • CarolaCarola Posts: 1,805
    George Alexander Louis/ie.
  • Scrapheap_as_wasScrapheap_as_was Posts: 10,069
    Wasn't someone on here laying George on Betfair bigstyle? Ouch
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,441
    I wonder if Carney's got the guts to give us a £100 or £200 note.
  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    Only three names.

    One more and it wouldn't print on a boarding pass.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 42,971
    RIP The Astrid:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-23430217

    Let's hope everyone got off her safely. I wonder if Tall Ships are sinking faster than they are being built? The Asgard II, the HMS Bounty replica, and the Wyvern have all been lost in the last few years.
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,441
    AveryLP said:

    Only three names.

    One more and it wouldn't print on a boarding pass.

    GAL - clearly expressing his feminine side.
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    @Plato - I think McKlusky may have been peeved by the "Jobs for the Boy's (mother)" coverage.....
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,850
    Slightly surprised they went for George, given most reckon that'll be Charles' regnal name.
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    Evan Davis tweets "I guess Asda will be happy. #George"
  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815

    AveryLP said:

    Only three names.

    One more and it wouldn't print on a boarding pass.

    GAL - clearly expressing his feminine side.
    Carola de Fenestrata will approve.

  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,441
    AveryLP said:

    AveryLP said:

    Only three names.

    One more and it wouldn't print on a boarding pass.

    GAL - clearly expressing his feminine side.
    Carola de Fenestrata will approve.

    As will the First Minister, clearly a tribute to his efforts
  • PongPong Posts: 4,693
    Damn you George!

    I will hold you in contempt til the end of my days.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,850
    F1: some say Hungary could be 40C during the race weekend:
    "Some weather forecasters are predicting temperatures to peak at 40C on Sunday, with track temperatures hovering around 50C. That'll put Pirelli's softer specification of tyres, which are introduced this weekend, under the spotlight once more. "

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/23425386

    I suspect Mercedes will not be thrilled to hear that.
  • PongPong Posts: 4,693
    edited July 2013

    Wasn't someone on here laying George on Betfair bigstyle? Ouch

    That'll be me.

    In fairness, I'd made a packet out of laying Alexandra - so I was playing with that profit. But it's still about a £1.2k down the drain.

    Onwards & upwards, eh?!
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,850
    Mr. Pong, was that your evens result? Bad luck, if so.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,774
    Damn, I was hoping for Albert or Prawn Satay
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,243

    F1: some say Hungary could be 40C during the race weekend:
    "Some weather forecasters are predicting temperatures to peak at 40C on Sunday, with track temperatures hovering around 50C. That'll put Pirelli's softer specification of tyres, which are introduced this weekend, under the spotlight once more. "

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/23425386

    I suspect Mercedes will not be thrilled to hear that.

    Hungary - The race circuit that drives like a street circuit. Not my favourite.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,774
    After Blackadder the Third, how can anyone name a Prince, George?
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    Named after the deficit cutting CotE !!

    Do the OBR approve ??
  • VerulamiusVerulamius Posts: 1,543
    Shame we will not get Philip II as king
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,850
    Off-topic?! How could anyone consider the weather forecast for Budapest to be off-topic? :p

    Mr. Pulpstar, I entirely agree. Hungary's a tedious circuit. Badly designed and too hard to overtake on as a result. It's possible we'll see tyre degradation lead to some changes in the race, though.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,774

    Off-topic?! How could anyone consider the weather forecast for Budapest to be off-topic? :p

    Mr. Pulpstar, I entirely agree. Hungary's a tedious circuit. Badly designed and too hard to overtake on as a result. It's possible we'll see tyre degradation lead to some changes in the race, though.

    I'm forever hitting the flag or off topic buttons when I'm in fact trying to hit the reply button.

    These touch screen devices are a bloody nightmare.

    I once flagged a comment by OGH, I was duly exiled to conhome.
  • JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    It's just as well that when Prince William become monarch his son will not become Prince George 2nd Duke of Cambridge as the omens from the last one in his youth are not promising :

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_George,_Duke_of_Cambridge
  • stodgestodge Posts: 13,927
    Evening all :)

    Well, no surprise on the name front and so (all being well) we'll have George VII, William V and then George VIII who will probably not ascend the throne before 2070.

    I won't be around to see that and it's a reminder of one's own mortality.

    I also hope that George will be allowed a life beyond military service - it would be good for him to build a different career.

    I found it disappointing that both William and Henry went into the Armed Forces - it would have been good for one of them to pursue a career in business or commerce which is perhaps more in tune with the Britain of the 21st Century and beyond. It perhaps disconnects them from the life of the bulk of the population whose connection to the Armed Forces is tenuous at best.
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    "Not a happy day for Ed Miliband's Labour Party. In an extraordinary speech this afternoon, Len McCluskey, the boss of Unite, warned that strains between Labour and the unions "have been worsened by the feeling that for a long time we have been taken for granted by people who welcome our money, but not our policy input, who want to use our resources at election time but do want our members as candidates". He warned Ed Miliband that Labour must be more than a "pinkish shadow" of the Government and must present voters with a "real and vivid choice" in time for 2015, otherwise union members won't sign up to be Labour members. He hit out specifically at "Oxbridge Blairites" for attempting to limit union influence. (Ed Miliband's alma mater, the Tory press office gleefully noted, is Corpus Christi College, Oxford.)"

    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/willheaven/100227992/evening-briefing-civil-war-in-the-labour-party/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
  • Wouldn't there be endless accusations of them using their name and connections. Regardless of the veracity of such claims?
    stodge said:

    Evening all :)

    I also hope that George will be allowed a life beyond military service - it would be good for him to build a different career.

    I found it disappointing that both William and Henry went into the Armed Forces - it would have been good for one of them to pursue a career in business or commerce which is perhaps more in tune with the Britain of the 21st Century and beyond. It perhaps disconnects them from the life of the bulk of the population whose connection to the Armed Forces is tenuous at best.

  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    I cannot see William or Harry being good at business. Prince Edwards ventures do not bode well in that direction either. Harry seems quite keen on the soldiering life and has chosen well for a career.

    Waiting around for a role can be a bit tiresome. The forces seem to be a good way to fill that gap.
    stodge said:

    Evening all :)

    Well, no surprise on the name front and so (all being well) we'll have George VII, William V and then George VIII who will probably not ascend the throne before 2070.

    I won't be around to see that and it's a reminder of one's own mortality.

    I also hope that George will be allowed a life beyond military service - it would be good for him to build a different career.

    I found it disappointing that both William and Henry went into the Armed Forces - it would have been good for one of them to pursue a career in business or commerce which is perhaps more in tune with the Britain of the 21st Century and beyond. It perhaps disconnects them from the life of the bulk of the population whose connection to the Armed Forces is tenuous at best.

  • JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    edited July 2013
    stodge said:

    Evening all :)

    Well, no surprise on the name front and so (all being well) we'll have George VII, William V and then George VIII who will probably not ascend the throne before 2070.

    I won't be around to see that and it's a reminder of one's own mortality.

    I also hope that George will be allowed a life beyond military service - it would be good for him to build a different career.

    I found it disappointing that both William and Henry went into the Armed Forces - it would have been good for one of them to pursue a career in business or commerce which is perhaps more in tune with the Britain of the 21st Century and beyond. It perhaps disconnects them from the life of the bulk of the population whose connection to the Armed Forces is tenuous at best.

    Much will depend on whether the next in line opt for their first or other names. Charles may go for George VII as you indicate but William and his son may do likewise. Recent precedent is mixed.

    Queen Victoria was Alexandrina
    Edward VII was Albert
    George V was George
    Edward VIII was Edward
    George VI was Albert
    Elizabeth II was Elizabeth

  • On topic. I layed George at 3.15 and cashed out at 3.7.
    A 15% return for about 4 hours isn't bad
  • taffystaffys Posts: 9,753
    "a real and vivid choice" in time for 2015,

    I agree wholeheartedly with Len. I sincerely hope Labour explicitly offer voters a genuine left wing choice.
  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    There is also no conflict of interest - going into business is fraught with dangers of trading on your name/getting mixed up with the wrong sort etc.

    Perhaps becoming a CoE vicar would also be fairly safe...

    I cannot see William or Harry being good at business. Prince Edwards ventures do not bode well in that direction either. Harry seems quite keen on the soldiering life and has chosen well for a career.

    Waiting around for a role can be a bit tiresome. The forces seem to be a good way to fill that gap.

    stodge said:

    Evening all :)

    Well, no surprise on the name front and so (all being well) we'll have George VII, William V and then George VIII who will probably not ascend the throne before 2070.

    I won't be around to see that and it's a reminder of one's own mortality.

    I also hope that George will be allowed a life beyond military service - it would be good for him to build a different career.

    I found it disappointing that both William and Henry went into the Armed Forces - it would have been good for one of them to pursue a career in business or commerce which is perhaps more in tune with the Britain of the 21st Century and beyond. It perhaps disconnects them from the life of the bulk of the population whose connection to the Armed Forces is tenuous at best.

  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    This Len McCluskey seems to be an Alan Partridge like figure. Is he for real or a clever plant by the master strategist?

    No party seems immune from their own goal specialists.

    "Not a happy day for Ed Miliband's Labour Party. In an extraordinary speech this afternoon, Len McCluskey, the boss of Unite, warned that strains between Labour and the unions "have been worsened by the feeling that for a long time we have been taken for granted by people who welcome our money, but not our policy input, who want to use our resources at election time but do want our members as candidates". He warned Ed Miliband that Labour must be more than a "pinkish shadow" of the Government and must present voters with a "real and vivid choice" in time for 2015, otherwise union members won't sign up to be Labour members. He hit out specifically at "Oxbridge Blairites" for attempting to limit union influence. (Ed Miliband's alma mater, the Tory press office gleefully noted, is Corpus Christi College, Oxford.)"

    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/willheaven/100227992/evening-briefing-civil-war-in-the-labour-party/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,712
    I have to admit I'm not particularly fond of George as a name: it sounds a bit old-fashioned to me. When I was at school I can't remember anyone with the name.
  • david_herdsondavid_herdson Posts: 17,763
    I don't suppose there's any harm in mentioning again that I tipped George at 12/1 (and Alexander at 50/1, which while not successful was damned near - did any bookies offer each-way?)
  • Scrapheap_as_wasScrapheap_as_was Posts: 10,069
    We don't need no educashion.

    Labour gets a black mark for misleading people with the wrong figures. As stated above, Labour quoted population figures instead of school places and these are not the same thing.

    Worse still, the population figures have already been factored into the forecast shortage of school places.

    It’s also worth us pointing out that using global figures for an issue so poignantly local is meaningless.

    Labour’s warning will ring true in Croydon, where parents face a 15.8 per cent shortfall of school places by 2014. But it will ring hollow in North Warwickshire, which faces a surplus of 38.8 per cent in the same year.

    http://blogs.channel4.com/factcheck/factcheck-black-mark-for-labour-on-primary-school-places/14069
  • taffystaffys Posts: 9,753
    Perhaps becoming a CoE vicar would also be fairly safe...

    Diplomat would seem to me to be a good choice. I'm sure some countries wouldn't mind a prince as their ambassador. Better than Sir Boring Nomark.....
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    Prince Harry as a diplomat would be an interesting choice.

    Though might need to up MOD spending so he could get his mates stuck in. Its about time we taught those frogs another lesson.
    taffys said:

    Perhaps becoming a CoE vicar would also be fairly safe...

    Diplomat would seem to me to be a good choice. I'm sure some countries wouldn't mind a prince as their ambassador. Better than Sir Boring Nomark.....

  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    Brilliant photoshop

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BP8aC65CUAA5FQI.jpg:large

    Rob Marchant @rob_marchant
    Think it's time for one last tweet of @GeneralBoles' inspired photo pic.twitter.com/xp5bxhkdQm accompanying my column labour-uncut.co.uk/2013/07/24/ed-…
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