DL No doubt about it A Murray is and always will be a Scot, Will the Scottish Rugby Players miss being part of the Lions Tours in the future, Post Freedom Day
DL No doubt about it A Murray is and always will be a Scot, Will the Scottish Rugby Players miss being part of the Lions Tours in the future, Post Freedom Day
Ehh, do the Irish?
And anyway we are far too sensible to vote for independence.
AW, Mr Miliband, what farce assails you now? Ed of that ilk, prospective leader of England and the Other Bits, is having a terrible week.
I’m sorry. I really am. But you couldn’t make this up. And I haven’t even mentioned Falkirk yet. It’s not Mr Miliband’s fault that matters are beyond his control. He tried vainly to stop Tom Watson’s resignation, and the ablutionary notes were part of a script written for him by the cruel, capricious gods of public life.
MG You live in Scotland, what bullshine..Are you a member of a closed order.
Richard, just civilised , open season after 12 mind you , but chav territory if you are drinking before that. Would probably say a sophisticated refreshment whilst abroad in sunnier climes may be acceptable from 11ish
DL No doubt about it A Murray is and always will be a Scot, Will the Scottish Rugby Players miss being part of the Lions Tours in the future, Post Freedom Day
Richard, you are getting yourself a bit mixed up, it is the British and Irish Lions , once independent we will still be part of Britain , so you do not need to worry we will still be the mainstay of the lions for a long time to come.
DL No doubt about it A Murray is and always will be a Scot, Will the Scottish Rugby Players miss being part of the Lions Tours in the future, Post Freedom Day
Ehh, do the Irish?
And anyway we are far too sensible to vote for independence.
MG, Thats where I live, in warmer climes.Personally I never touch a drop before twelve but in my local village and small town there is much quaffing from 8am, and they aint chavs
MG, Thats where I live, in warmer climes.Personally I never touch a drop before twelve but in my local village and small town there is much quaffing from 8am, and they aint chavs
for some reason the drunks abroad seem to be a bit classier and less offensive than UK. I may have been lucky but even when you see them drunk abroad you never see the yobbish violent behaviour that you see across the UK. Makes you wonder what the difference is.
Another PBers mentioned the collapse of Unite's balance sheet the other day - I can't find the details as my Google Fu is lacking, but the numbers quoted suggested that Unite is on a sticky wicket themselves in the not too distant future.
MG, The evening drinking begins at 5pm, on the terrace, with two large whiskies and then onto the local wine.but never reaching intoxication..all over by eight at the latest, then maybe a delicious gelati..It is approaching civilised and celebrates two great alcoholic beverages from two great countries
As UNITE seem to have a rather cavilier attitude to membership in general, i suspect that the UNITE membership figures may not be too accurate!
I think that DH is right, large unions get quite disconnected from their members. The BMA does little for us doctors and mostly is run by people interested in playing politics snd trying to ban all enjoyments in life. They were particularly spineless over the changes to medical training.
But all is not lost, there are Union organisations for Doctors unhappy with the BMA, such as the TUC affiliated HCSA. They are tough negotiators and much more membership focussed.
MG, The evening drinking begins at 5pm, on the terrace, with two large whiskies and then onto the local wine.but never reaching intoxication..all over by eight at the latest, then maybe a delicious gelati..It is approaching civilised and celebrates two great alcoholic beverages from two great countries
Sounds like perfection Richard, enjoy , I must dash speak later
MG, The evening drinking begins at 5pm, on the terrace, with two large whiskies and then onto the local wine.but never reaching intoxication..all over by eight at the latest, then maybe a delicious gelati..It is approaching civilised and celebrates two great alcoholic beverages from two great countries
I fondly recall my time in Venice many years ago - the sherbet with licorice stick gelati was just too perfect.
"The BMA does little for us doctors and mostly is run by people interested in playing politics snd trying to ban all enjoyments in life."
I always wonder about the sorts who pop up on R4/R5 et al and seem to want ban anything pleasurable.
I've never met a doctor who wasn't portly, or a lush, or a user of other things or a black humour cynic - none of them wished to make anyone else miserable or guilty for eating a bacon sandwich - yet somehow those at the BMA are the most dreary puritanical lot.
Ticking off everyone else is a very poor conversion strategy.
Doctors are not unusual in having a miserablist streak, There are a few on here with similar attitudes. Doctors though have better platform to impose their views on others.
"The BMA does little for us doctors and mostly is run by people interested in playing politics snd trying to ban all enjoyments in life."
I always wonder about the sorts who pop up on R4/R5 et al and seem to want ban anything pleasurable.
I've never met a doctor who wasn't portly, or a lush, or a user of other things or a black humour cynic - none of them wished to make anyone else miserable or guilty for eating a bacon sandwich - yet somehow those at the BMA are the most dreary puritanical lot.
Ticking off everyone else is a very poor conversion strategy.
OT I seem to be tripping over trivia today. Fascinating social history stuff.
Jaws was the first *blockbuster* because people literally queued around the block to see it and to *shape-up* is actually a docker's mgt term that relates to the Mob, when to shape-up meant to be picked from one of their union controlled lines for work that day.
One of my favour books is Brewer's Phrase and Fable - but can anyone recommend another that covers more contemporary usage?
Doctors are not unusual in having a miserablist streak, There are a few on here with similar attitudes. Doctors though have better platform to impose their views on others.
"The BMA does little for us doctors and mostly is run by people interested in playing politics snd trying to ban all enjoyments in life."
I always wonder about the sorts who pop up on R4/R5 et al and seem to want ban anything pleasurable.
I've never met a doctor who wasn't portly, or a lush, or a user of other things or a black humour cynic - none of them wished to make anyone else miserable or guilty for eating a bacon sandwich - yet somehow those at the BMA are the most dreary puritanical lot.
Ticking off everyone else is a very poor conversion strategy.
Good point - I'm a sunny-side up sort so find this way of thinking very peculiar and probably more irritating than most.
The % of the ballots that the largest Unions "got" to vote for Ed Milliband. UNITE 4.5% GMB 3.3% UNISON 2.3% USDAW 0.5%
Move along .... nothing to see here ........
Yes, but of course the point is that they were still given a 33% weighting in the Electoral College.
So the views of less than 10% of Union members counted for the same as the views of the vast majority of Party members (and 100% of MPs).
Think about it - it's absolutely breathtaking.
And then remember that the ballot papers came inside envelopes saying "Vote Ed Miliband".
Incidentally the Conservatives badly need to get hold of one of those envelopes. The media hasn't made much of them but the Conservatives should use them prominently in the 2015 GE campaign to drive home the message that Ed only won because the Unions fixed it.
OT I seem to be tripping over trivia today. Fascinating social history stuff.
Jaws was the first *blockbuster* because people literally queued around the block to see it and to *shape-up* is actually a docker's mgt term that relates to the Mob, when to shape-up meant to be picked from one of their union controlled lines for work that day.
One of my favour books is Brewer's Phrase and Fable - but can anyone recommend another that covers more contemporary usage?
Before Jaws set box office records in the summer of 1975, successful films such as Quo Vadis, The Ten Commandments, Gone With the Wind, and Ben-Hur were called blockbusters based purely on the amount of money earned at the box office. Jaws is regarded as the first film of New Hollywood's 'blockbuster era' with its current meaning, implying a film genre.
So far as Labour is concerned you would need to have a heart of stone not to laugh. And tories are famous for their generosity of spirit.
But if Shapps is going to comment he could at least enter into the spirit of the occasion and try for wit. Maybe he should phone Boris. Or just be quiet. Wit is not an obvious strong point.
Today,anything posted about Shapps, as a diversion, is a total fail
Even these Tories can see the amateurish mistake he's making
Stephen Pollard @stephenpollard Tories - Shapps - should stop crowing and commenting on every twist in Labour crisis. Much more effective to sit back and watch implosion Retweeted by Iain Dale
Harry Cole @MrHarryCole Shapps twisting knife again: "Miliband's response isn't now just weak, it's also two-faced". Probably best to just sit back with a cigar.
Particularly with his history and multiple identities.
Political Scrapbook @PSbook NEW --> Tory chairman Grant Shapps 'still under investigation by police' over dodgy company http://read.ps/1aJCFJG
I said the other day that Shapps is counter-productive. Take the mobile off him and send him out in the sun to play croquet or have a keys-in-the-ashtray afternoon with his fellow prefects. Or whatever else posh kids do when experimenting behind closed-doors.
Incidentally, I actually feel a bit sorry for Ed. He looks a bit isolated. Can you imagine how Labour would've reacted under opposition-era Blair?
Mandelson would've been on the phone threatening journalists with their careers. Alastair Campbell would have dirt on every single union boss. John Reid and Prescott would've been physically threatening to hurt the brothers. Blair would've been on every media outlet calling them dinosaurs and laughing them out of school. And Brown would've been hiding, hoping for the worst. Whilst Ed has got Angela Eagle and Jim Murphy in his corner. I like Murphy, but he isn't exactly Mandelson or Campbell, is he?
Meanwhile, the silence of Ed Balls has haunting parallels.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrG45Vm3P34
Warren Gatland must have brought O'Driscoll on to the field because the Lions are now leading 16-41.
I mean Rafa won the European Cup with Djimi Traore.
Blimey. That truly is an epic defeat up there with Zama.
Well IT Botham is predicting a ten nil England victory over the two series
This is what makes sport so compelling.
And there is just nowhere to hide on a rugby field.
Though I hope he does tomorrow.
I suspect he won't as that Djokovic can play.
And Salmond may not be willing to let him vote but Andy remains a Scot.
Patriotism will be through the roof and this union story will be soon forgotten.
And anyway we are far too sensible to vote for independence.
(Oh dear, I've jut jinxed Lewis, Jenson and co ... )
What a charming, principled and ethical bunch. Just the sort of people you want in government.
Unlike Ed truly the full shilling.
And ed let it happen because of his weakness.
Sky TV reporting that Ed phoned Livingstone for advice on Unite / Labour crisis last night.
You couldn't make it up.
Breaking your promise to the electorate can be worked around.
Breaking your promise to a partner undermines your future trustworthiness.
Basic game theory.
I think that DH is right, large unions get quite disconnected from their members. The BMA does little for us doctors and mostly is run by people interested in playing politics snd trying to ban all enjoyments in life. They were particularly spineless over the changes to medical training.
But all is not lost, there are Union organisations for Doctors unhappy with the BMA, such as the TUC affiliated HCSA. They are tough negotiators and much more membership focussed.
This is great for Ed.
There are no Unite Tanks in Baghdad the Labour Party.
It was like a Sherbet Fountain made sophisticated:^ ) http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_v5HQSW-LL0g/SwRLTKL5V8I/AAAAAAAAC_I/v2II5Bh7s8g/s200/walking+sherbet.jpg
Mercedes following the inept strategies of Hannibal
UNITE 4.5%
GMB 3.3%
UNISON 2.3%
USDAW 0.5%
Move along .... nothing to see here ........
EDIT: And if your point is more important (accept it's accurate - just a trade off) then they were foolish for making the bargain in the first place
"The BMA does little for us doctors and mostly is run by people interested in playing politics snd trying to ban all enjoyments in life."
I always wonder about the sorts who pop up on R4/R5 et al and seem to want ban anything pleasurable.
I've never met a doctor who wasn't portly, or a lush, or a user of other things or a black humour cynic - none of them wished to make anyone else miserable or guilty for eating a bacon sandwich - yet somehow those at the BMA are the most dreary puritanical lot.
Ticking off everyone else is a very poor conversion strategy.
Why would EdM even have him on the radar of *people to reassure* ?
I'm with Dan Hodges here - WTF was he thinking of even thinking Ken was important to call?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/3046254.stm - I guessed most of them!
http://conservativehome.blogs.com/leftwatch/2013/07/miliband-will-want-you-to-think-that-hes-broken-from-the-unions-and-ken-livingstone-to-think-that-he.html
Will Froome move into Yellow today as well?
Jaws was the first *blockbuster* because people literally queued around the block to see it and to *shape-up* is actually a docker's mgt term that relates to the Mob, when to shape-up meant to be picked from one of their union controlled lines for work that day.
One of my favour books is Brewer's Phrase and Fable - but can anyone recommend another that covers more contemporary usage?
So the views of less than 10% of Union members counted for the same as the views of the vast majority of Party members (and 100% of MPs).
Think about it - it's absolutely breathtaking.
And then remember that the ballot papers came inside envelopes saying "Vote Ed Miliband".
Incidentally the Conservatives badly need to get hold of one of those envelopes. The media hasn't made much of them but the Conservatives should use them prominently in the 2015 GE campaign to drive home the message that Ed only won because the Unions fixed it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blockbuster_(entertainment) Although the dictionary appears to differ:
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/blockbuster
I must admit I'd always taken blockbuster to mean a very successful film, rather than a genre. Which probably shows what I know ...
Totally off topic, just had a very pleasant lunch in the sun at our local vineyard, with one of the better English reds I've drunk.
'Miliband will want you to think that he’s broken from the unions – and Ken Livingstone to think that he hasn’t'
Pure comedy gold,sit back and enjoy the circus.
But if Shapps is going to comment he could at least enter into the spirit of the occasion and try for wit. Maybe he should phone Boris. Or just be quiet. Wit is not an obvious strong point.
Incidentally, I actually feel a bit sorry for Ed. He looks a bit isolated. Can you imagine how Labour would've reacted under opposition-era Blair?
Mandelson would've been on the phone threatening journalists with their careers. Alastair Campbell would have dirt on every single union boss. John Reid and Prescott would've been physically threatening to hurt the brothers. Blair would've been on every media outlet calling them dinosaurs and laughing them out of school. And Brown would've been hiding, hoping for the worst. Whilst Ed has got Angela Eagle and Jim Murphy in his corner. I like Murphy, but he isn't exactly Mandelson or Campbell, is he?
Meanwhile, the silence of Ed Balls has haunting parallels.
Afterall Ed Balls is doing exactly that and he's a master of this sort of stuff!!!