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    Jonathan said:

    SeanT said:

    MTimT said:

    HYUFD said:

    SeanT said:

    I've just spent four days of blazing sunshine researching locations in Devon, mainly in Dartmoor

    WHY DIDN'T ANYONE TELL ME BEFORE

    Dartmoor is incredibly beautiful. Primal colours of blood orange rowan berries and Forestry Commission green against Neolithic graves and naked granite and sombre brown moorland leats and and and and

    Wow. Like upland Provence, but more interesting.

    I believe Ann Widdecombe has retired to Dartmoor
    One of my favorite places on earth. Used to walk there most weekends as a kid. Great pubs too. As you say, Sean, beautiful in all weathers. In some ways, the nastier the weather, the more beautiful, but sunshine and blue skies is good too.
    The pubs are superb. I went to six or seven pubs where you thought: Wow. This is what an English pub SHOULD be. Great beer, really nice food, beautiful old cob-and-thatch taverns or coaching inns, surrounded by rolling countryside or handsome moors and woods, and filled with happy drinkers and locals and laughing kids. Idyllic!

    That said, the best moment was a bit posh. I went for a long circular walk in north east Dartmoor, then as I headed back for my car I realised I was near Gidleigh Park Hotel (which I've visited a few times over the years, and vaguely remembered as being lovely) so I went there for a couple of quenching beers.

    Just divine.

    https://twitter.com/thomasknox/status/765585597033512961

    One vision of heaven is an English pub garden on a Summers day

    A pub on a wet afternoon in late autumn with a fire on the go and a few hours in front of you. That is heaven.

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    oxfordsimonoxfordsimon Posts: 5,831

    So today we have an IoC arrested over ticket touting at one of the worst attended Olympics in modern history.

    And apparently the BMX was a clusterf##k. When the riders turned up they had painted lots of surfaces in a plain colour which didn't enable the riders to be able to see the peak points of the various humps / jumps.

    Just another normal day at the Rio Omnishambles Games.

    Not forgetting the Boxing officials being sent home - under suspicion of corruption - thus undermining every single boxing result.

    Oh yes and the news that only 12% of Paralympic tickets have been sold
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    So today we have an IoC arrested over ticket touting at one of the worst attended Olympics in modern history.

    And apparently the BMX was a clusterf##k. When the riders turned up they had painted lots of surfaces in a plain colour which didn't enable the riders to be able to see the peak points of the various humps / jumps.

    Just another normal day at the Rio Omnishambles Games.

    Not forgetting the Boxing officials being sent home - under suspicion of corruption - thus undermining every single boxing result.

    Oh yes and the news that only 12% of Paralympic tickets have been sold
    Oh yes, forgot about those...hard to keep up with all the disasters.
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    RobDRobD Posts: 59,015

    So today we have an IoC arrested over ticket touting at one of the worst attended Olympics in modern history.

    And apparently the BMX was a clusterf##k. When the riders turned up they had painted lots of surfaces in a plain colour which didn't enable the riders to be able to see the peak points of the various humps / jumps.

    Just another normal day at the Rio Omnishambles Games.

    Not forgetting the Boxing officials being sent home - under suspicion of corruption - thus undermining every single boxing result.

    Oh yes and the news that only 12% of Paralympic tickets have been sold
    And, according to the BBC, judges seeking to seize competitor's passports!
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    MTimTMTimT Posts: 7,034
    edited August 2016

    Jonathan said:

    SeanT said:

    MTimT said:

    HYUFD said:

    SeanT said:

    I've just spent four days of blazing sunshine researching locations in Devon, mainly in Dartmoor

    WHY DIDN'T ANYONE TELL ME BEFORE

    Dartmoor is incredibly beautiful. Primal colours of blood orange rowan berries and Forestry Commission green against Neolithic graves and naked granite and sombre brown moorland leats and and and and

    Wow. Like upland Provence, but more interesting.

    I believe Ann Widdecombe has retired to Dartmoor
    One of my favorite places on earth. Used to walk there most weekends as a kid. Great pubs too. As you say, Sean, beautiful in all weathers. In some ways, the nastier the weather, the more beautiful, but sunshine and blue skies is good too.
    The pubs are superb. I went to six or seven pubs where you thought: Wow. This is what an English pub SHOULD be. Great beer, really nice food, beautiful old cob-and-thatch taverns or coaching inns, surrounded by rolling countryside or handsome moors and woods, and filled with happy drinkers and locals and laughing kids. Idyllic!

    That said, the best moment was a bit posh. I went for a long circular walk in north east Dartmoor, then as I headed back for my car I realised I was near Gidleigh Park Hotel (which I've visited a few times over the years, and vaguely remembered as being lovely) so I went there for a couple of quenching beers.

    Just divine.

    https://twitter.com/thomasknox/status/765585597033512961

    One vision of heaven is an English pub garden on a Summers day

    A pub on a wet afternoon in late autumn with a fire on the go and a few hours in front of you. That is heaven.

    :) So long as it is an open log fire with a few steaming dogs lying down at the hearth to dry off.
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    I came to Canada having promised my daughter we'd spend some time here as she's always wanted to come. I felt I would be taking one for the team, frankly. But, in fact, it's been utterly fantastic. The nicest people, good food, lovely beer and, of course, stunning scenery. We've been in Niva Scotia and it's so different to Ontario and British Columbia, where I've visited for work a few times. The accent is very distinct and there is a more UK feel to the place. They even put salt & vinegar on their chips. Reminds me very much of a vast New Zealand. If you get the chance, visit. Next time I am going to try Newfoundland.
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    Ally_BAlly_B Posts: 185
    MTimT said:

    Finally! The TV is telling me that temperatures will fall into the 80s F (i.e. below 32C) starting next Monday. It's been a stinking hot August so far. Every day in the 90s with it feeling like it's in the 100s.

    If you think that then you are fortunate not to live in Malaysia as I do for six months of the year. Not a day, in my memory, where the temperature has been below 30degC (usually 35) and high humidity, so washed clothes take five hours to dry on the line. Anyway, I'm back here now for the Autumn and it feels so good to be able to sit outside an air con building and NOT get bitten by mosquitos!
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    If there were a gold medals for host country f##k ups, Brazil would be top of the medal table by a country mile.
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    MTimTMTimT Posts: 7,034
    Ally_B said:

    MTimT said:

    Finally! The TV is telling me that temperatures will fall into the 80s F (i.e. below 32C) starting next Monday. It's been a stinking hot August so far. Every day in the 90s with it feeling like it's in the 100s.

    If you think that then you are fortunate not to live in Malaysia as I do for six months of the year. Not a day, in my memory, where the temperature has been below 30degC (usually 35) and high humidity, so washed clothes take five hours to dry on the line. Anyway, I'm back here now for the Autumn and it feels so good to be able to sit outside an air con building and NOT get bitten by mosquitos!
    Was in KL and Penang in December. It was not as bad as this.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,300
    edited August 2016

    I came to Canada having promised my daughter we'd spend some time here as she's always wanted to come. I felt I would be taking one for the team, frankly. But, in fact, it's been utterly fantastic. The nicest people, good food, lovely beer and, of course, stunning scenery. We've been in Niva Scotia and it's so different to Ontario and British Columbia, where I've visited for work a few times. The accent is very distinct and there is a more UK feel to the place. They even put salt & vinegar on their chips. Reminds me very much of a vast New Zealand. If you get the chance, visit. Next time I am going to try Newfoundland.

    I never tire of visiting Canada. Just a shame it is so expensive these days. I was there this time last year for a couple of weeks and some things were eye wateringly expensive in Queen's shillings.

    I remember my first visit you got 2.5 CAD to the pound and in general things were just much cheaper due to a weaker economy, so it was insanely cheap to holiday once you were there.
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    619619 Posts: 1,784
    HYUFD said:
    is it even worth polling there?
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    MTimTMTimT Posts: 7,034

    I came to Canada having promised my daughter we'd spend some time here as she's always wanted to come. I felt I would be taking one for the team, frankly. But, in fact, it's been utterly fantastic. The nicest people, good food, lovely beer and, of course, stunning scenery. We've been in Niva Scotia and it's so different to Ontario and British Columbia, where I've visited for work a few times. The accent is very distinct and there is a more UK feel to the place. They even put salt & vinegar on their chips. Reminds me very much of a vast New Zealand. If you get the chance, visit. Next time I am going to try Newfoundland.


    I loved Halifax. Always wanted to go to Newfie, but haven't got there yet.
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    MTimT said:

    I came to Canada having promised my daughter we'd spend some time here as she's always wanted to come. I felt I would be taking one for the team, frankly. But, in fact, it's been utterly fantastic. The nicest people, good food, lovely beer and, of course, stunning scenery. We've been in Niva Scotia and it's so different to Ontario and British Columbia, where I've visited for work a few times. The accent is very distinct and there is a more UK feel to the place. They even put salt & vinegar on their chips. Reminds me very much of a vast New Zealand. If you get the chance, visit. Next time I am going to try Newfoundland.


    I loved Halifax. Always wanted to go to Newfie, but haven't got there yet.
    Halifax? I've been to Leeds and Sheffield :lol:
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    oxfordsimonoxfordsimon Posts: 5,831
    RobD said:

    So today we have an IoC arrested over ticket touting at one of the worst attended Olympics in modern history.

    And apparently the BMX was a clusterf##k. When the riders turned up they had painted lots of surfaces in a plain colour which didn't enable the riders to be able to see the peak points of the various humps / jumps.

    Just another normal day at the Rio Omnishambles Games.

    Not forgetting the Boxing officials being sent home - under suspicion of corruption - thus undermining every single boxing result.

    Oh yes and the news that only 12% of Paralympic tickets have been sold
    And, according to the BBC, judges seeking to seize competitor's passports!
    That one can't be blamed on the IOC or the Rio team - that is US swimmers and the alleged theft/hold-up... the Brazilian authorities don't quite believe their stories it would seem
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    FeersumEnjineeyaFeersumEnjineeya Posts: 3,902
    edited August 2016
    SeanT said:

    MTimT said:

    Sean_F said:

    Jonathan said:

    SeanT said:

    MTimT said:

    HYUFD said:

    SeanT said:

    I've just spent four days of blazing sunshine researching locations in Devon, mainly in Dartmoor

    WHY DIDN'T ANYONE TELL ME BEFORE

    Dartmoor is incredibly beautiful. Primal colours of blood orange rowan berries and Forestry Commission green against Neolithic graves and naked granite and sombre brown moorland leats and and and and

    Wow. Like upland Provence, but more interesting.

    I believe Ann Widdecombe has retired to Dartmoor
    One of my favorite places on earth. Used to walk there most weekends as a kid. Great pubs too. As you say, Sean, beautiful in all weathers. In some ways, the nastier the weather, the more beautiful, but sunshine and blue skies is good too.
    The pubs are superb. I went to six or seven pubs where you thought: Wow. This is what an English pub SHOULD be. Great beer, really nice food, beautiful old cob-and-thatch taverns or coaching inns, surrounded by rolling countryside or handsome moors and woods, and filled with happy drinkers and locals and laughing kids. Idyllic!

    That said, the best moment was a bit posh. I went for a long circular walk in north east Dartmoor, then as I headed back for my car I realised I was near Gidleigh Park Hotel (which I've visited a few times over the years, and vaguely remembered as being lovely) so I went there for a couple of quenching beers.

    Just divine.

    https://twitter.com/thomasknox/status/765585597033512961

    One vision of heaven is an English pub garden on a Summers day
    The Trout, Godstow, is one such. The Ferry Inn, Salcombe, is another. And, the Brocket Arms, Ayot St. Lawrence.
    Maybe not the best pub in Britain, but some of my very best pub memories here after walks as a teenager around Burrator Dam - never got age checked :)

    http://www.royaloakinn.org.uk
    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bb/High_ground_view_of_Burrator_reservoir.jpg
    I think if I moved away from the UK it might be the pubs that I would miss the most (apart from friends, family, culture etc *cough*)

    You really can't find their equal anywhere else. And they are crucial to happiness.
    It's just what you're used to. I lived in Germany for 10 years and found the Kneipen, Biergärten and Bierkeller just as much fun as English pubs once I was used to them. Different atmospheres, but just as good for getting pissed with your mates or a quiet drink with the missus.
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    RobDRobD Posts: 59,015

    RobD said:

    So today we have an IoC arrested over ticket touting at one of the worst attended Olympics in modern history.

    And apparently the BMX was a clusterf##k. When the riders turned up they had painted lots of surfaces in a plain colour which didn't enable the riders to be able to see the peak points of the various humps / jumps.

    Just another normal day at the Rio Omnishambles Games.

    Not forgetting the Boxing officials being sent home - under suspicion of corruption - thus undermining every single boxing result.

    Oh yes and the news that only 12% of Paralympic tickets have been sold
    And, according to the BBC, judges seeking to seize competitor's passports!
    That one can't be blamed on the IOC or the Rio team - that is US swimmers and the alleged theft/hold-up... the Brazilian authorities don't quite believe their stories it would seem
    Still, it just adds to the general sense that it's been a bit of a balls up at times.
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    RobDRobD Posts: 59,015
    619 said:

    HYUFD said:
    is it even worth polling there?
    Useful for models such as Nate Silver's one.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,300
    edited August 2016
    What are the remaining medal prospects?
    GB are all but guaranteed a gold in the 470 Sailing with Hannah Mills and Saskia Clark, with other medal prospects including Nicola Adams (boxing), Mo Farah (5,000m), Tom Daley (10m diving), Alistair Brownlee, Non Stanford, Helen Jenkins and Vicky Holland (triathlon), Jade Jones and Bianca Walkden (taekwondo), the women's hockey team, men's 4x100m men's relay team, Liam Phillips (BMX), Holly Bradshaw (pole vault), Jamie Cooke (modern pentathlon), and Charley Hull (golf).
    Missing from that is the super heavyweight men boxer. We also qualified fastest for the Men's Kayak Double 200m Finals.
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    I came to Canada having promised my daughter we'd spend some time here as she's always wanted to come. I felt I would be taking one for the team, frankly. But, in fact, it's been utterly fantastic. The nicest people, good food, lovely beer and, of course, stunning scenery. We've been in Niva Scotia and it's so different to Ontario and British Columbia, where I've visited for work a few times. The accent is very distinct and there is a more UK feel to the place. They even put salt & vinegar on their chips. Reminds me very much of a vast New Zealand. If you get the chance, visit. Next time I am going to try Newfoundland.

    I never tire of visiting Canada. Just a shame it is so expensive these days. I was there this time last year for a couple of weeks and some things were eye wateringly expensive in Queen's shillings.

    I remember my first visit you got 2.5 CAD to the pound and in general things were just much cheaper due to a weaker economy, so it was insanely cheap to holiday once you were there.

    It is very expensive. Bread $4.85!!

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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,300
    edited August 2016

    I came to Canada having promised my daughter we'd spend some time here as she's always wanted to come. I felt I would be taking one for the team, frankly. But, in fact, it's been utterly fantastic. The nicest people, good food, lovely beer and, of course, stunning scenery. We've been in Niva Scotia and it's so different to Ontario and British Columbia, where I've visited for work a few times. The accent is very distinct and there is a more UK feel to the place. They even put salt & vinegar on their chips. Reminds me very much of a vast New Zealand. If you get the chance, visit. Next time I am going to try Newfoundland.

    I never tire of visiting Canada. Just a shame it is so expensive these days. I was there this time last year for a couple of weeks and some things were eye wateringly expensive in Queen's shillings.

    I remember my first visit you got 2.5 CAD to the pound and in general things were just much cheaper due to a weaker economy, so it was insanely cheap to holiday once you were there.

    It is very expensive. Bread $4.85!!

    I always find it very strange in North America how expensive some basics like milk and bread are, when they are have ability to produce loads of that...where as some other food stuffs cheap (and not just talking junk).

    Given knowledge of the whole fructose corn syrup issue, I presume the reason for the above is due to subsidies. However, in Canada that ain't exactly short of space for cows or wheat.
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    MattWMattW Posts: 18,781
    kle4 said:

    I actually find that one a little more reasonable in its point, even if the gloomily pessimistic view is taking it further than is fair I think.
    'Tis Laura Bates, so whinging is par for the course. There also seem to a few 'exaggerations' in the piece.
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    nunununu Posts: 6,024
    Model 2 – LD Constituency Model: Conservatives pick up 27 seats, and Labour 11 seats. Lib Dems hold 8 seats.

    However, that still didn’t look right. We know from Lord Ashcroft that some Lib Dem incumbents are doing much better than that.

    By Casino
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    edmundintokyoedmundintokyo Posts: 17,157
    On topic, this is a good reason to pay more attention to the national polling than the state polling. Trump will close the spending gap closer to the election, and there must be a point of diminishing returns.
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,162
    edited August 2016

    On topic, this is a good reason to pay more attention to the national polling than the state polling. Trump will close the spending gap closer to the election, and there must be a point of diminishing returns.

    Agreed. Heavy negative campaigning too early only works if it delivers a knock out. If Trump is still within striking distance in October and all the negative ammunition has already been thrown at him, it will make it much harder for Hillary to counter a late swing against her.
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    MTimTMTimT Posts: 7,034



    It's just what you're used to. I lived in Germany for 10 years and found the Kneipen, Biergärten and Bierkeller just as much fun as English pubs once I was used to them. Different atmospheres, but just as good for getting pissed with your mates or a quiet drink with the missus.

    Wherever they are, professional expats learn to enjoy what is available locally. But that is not the same as not missing the best things from home. A good British country pub is not replicated anywhere else, not even Ireland.
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    MTimTMTimT Posts: 7,034

    On topic, this is a good reason to pay more attention to the national polling than the state polling. Trump will close the spending gap closer to the election, and there must be a point of diminishing returns.

    Indeed, previous election cycles have hit the point of no returns on additional advertising, but they still seem to pay for more.
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,162
    MTimT said:

    On topic, this is a good reason to pay more attention to the national polling than the state polling. Trump will close the spending gap closer to the election, and there must be a point of diminishing returns.

    Indeed, previous election cycles have hit the point of no returns on additional advertising, but they still seem to pay for more.
    I suppose the old dynamic is that advertising spend influences editorial coverage in a favourable way. Trump instead delivers cash to the networks indirectly by driving ratings.
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    MTimT said:



    It's just what you're used to. I lived in Germany for 10 years and found the Kneipen, Biergärten and Bierkeller just as much fun as English pubs once I was used to them. Different atmospheres, but just as good for getting pissed with your mates or a quiet drink with the missus.

    Wherever they are, professional expats learn to enjoy what is available locally. But that is not the same as not missing the best things from home. A good British country pub is not replicated anywhere else, not even Ireland.
    Every country and region has its special features, and everyone develops emotional attachments to the place where they had their formative experiences. I'm sure Germans in the UK miss their Bierkeller just as much as Brits in Germany miss their pubs.
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    ChrisChris Posts: 11,141

    ... all the negative ammunition has already been thrown at him, it will make it much harder for Hillary to counter a late swing against her.

    I keep thinking all the straws have already been clutched by Trumpolini's supporters, but I'm starting to think they are actually employing a straw manufacturer to keep them supplied.

    But fresh questions keep surfacing all the time. And the nagging questions about Trumpolini's health aren't going to go away:
    http://americannewsx.com/hot-off-the-press/trump-gi-doctor-hiding-from-voters/

    Why has Trumpolino been consulting a gastrointestinal specialist anyway? Surely it can't be just because he makes so many people want to throw up!
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    MTimTMTimT Posts: 7,034

    MTimT said:



    It's just what you're used to. I lived in Germany for 10 years and found the Kneipen, Biergärten and Bierkeller just as much fun as English pubs once I was used to them. Different atmospheres, but just as good for getting pissed with your mates or a quiet drink with the missus.

    Wherever they are, professional expats learn to enjoy what is available locally. But that is not the same as not missing the best things from home. A good British country pub is not replicated anywhere else, not even Ireland.
    Every country and region has its special features, and everyone develops emotional attachments to the place where they had their formative experiences. I'm sure Germans in the UK miss their Bierkeller just as much as Brits in Germany miss their pubs.
    Not disputing that. In fact, it is rather the point I was making.
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 92,078
    Godsdamn this summer night heat. That is all.
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 92,078
    It's really subtle, but I think rob marchant is not a fan of Corbyn's holier and more honest than thou presentation.

    http://labour-uncut.co.uk/2016/08/17/if-there-were-a-moment-when-the-mask-fell-on-straight-talking-honest-politics-it-was-the-weekends-observer-interview/#more-21043
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    CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758

    Jonathan said:

    SeanT said:

    MTimT said:

    HYUFD said:

    SeanT said:

    I've just spent four days of blazing sunshine researching locations in Devon, mainly in Dartmoor

    WHY DIDN'T ANYONE TELL ME BEFORE

    Dartmoor is incredibly beautiful. Primal colours of blood orange rowan berries and Forestry Commission green against Neolithic graves and naked granite and sombre brown moorland leats and and and and

    Wow. Like upland Provence, but more interesting.

    I believe Ann Widdecombe has retired to Dartmoor
    One of my favorite places on earth. Used to walk there most weekends as a kid. Great pubs too. As you say, Sean, beautiful in all weathers. In some ways, the nastier the weather, the more beautiful, but sunshine and blue skies is good too.
    The pubs are superb. I went to six or seven pubs where you thought: Wow. This is what an English pub SHOULD be. Great beer, really nice food, beautiful old cob-and-thatch taverns or coaching inns, surrounded by rolling countryside or handsome moors and woods, and filled with happy drinkers and locals and laughing kids. Idyllic!

    That said, the best moment was a bit posh. I went for a long circular walk in north east Dartmoor, then as I headed back for my car I realised I was near Gidleigh Park Hotel (which I've visited a few times over the years, and vaguely remembered as being lovely) so I went there for a couple of quenching beers.

    Just divine.

    https://twitter.com/thomasknox/status/765585597033512961

    One vision of heaven is an English pub garden on a Summers day

    A pub on a wet afternoon in late autumn with a fire on the go and a few hours in front of you. That is heaven.

    Slowly roasting in front of an open fire, whiskey Mac in hand, after an afternoon riding in the rain
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    CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758

    I came to Canada having promised my daughter we'd spend some time here as she's always wanted to come. I felt I would be taking one for the team, frankly. But, in fact, it's been utterly fantastic. The nicest people, good food, lovely beer and, of course, stunning scenery. We've been in Niva Scotia and it's so different to Ontario and British Columbia, where I've visited for work a few times. The accent is very distinct and there is a more UK feel to the place. They even put salt & vinegar on their chips. Reminds me very much of a vast New Zealand. If you get the chance, visit. Next time I am going to try Newfoundland.

    If you go to Newfoundland can I suggest Prince Edward Island? I try to.go there every couple of years - lovely quiet spot: Canada's forgotten state
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    CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    Chris said:

    ... all the negative ammunition has already been thrown at him, it will make it much harder for Hillary to counter a late swing against her.

    I keep thinking all the straws have already been clutched by Trumpolini's supporters, but I'm starting to think they are actually employing a straw manufacturer to keep them supplied.

    But fresh questions keep surfacing all the time. And the nagging questions about Trumpolini's health aren't going to go away:
    http://americannewsx.com/hot-off-the-press/trump-gi-doctor-hiding-from-voters/

    Why has Trumpolino been consulting a gastrointestinal specialist anyway? Surely it can't be just because he makes so many people want to throw up!
    Presumably because, at his age a colonoscopy is recommended standard practice and you wouldn't want that some by an amateur.

    Or talk about it.
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