So how can the Scots avoid calling a referendum (if indeed they don't want one?) Hold it tomorrow and they'd win, presumably.
I doubt they would. The fundamentals for Scotland haven't changed.
Tough for SNP if they don't call one
they've got to call one now, while the whole idea of project fear is discredited, and the fear of changing the status quo has been rejected. They won't lose a referendum on economics.
No, but they'd have to govern a Scotland using the euro with greek levels of unemployment
Well let the boring pork-barrel politician sods in their jumped-up local council with its silly lecterns for MSPs ask for direct rule.
Ha Ha Ha , what a turnip. Did your dolly get broken.
Listening to Teresa Villiers on Radio 4. Leave don't have a plan and she is utterly incoherent. Wanted Cameron to stay on and sort something out with the EU.
Boris in the end proved himself in the campaign, so it would make sense that he becomes next prime minister, Gove as Chancellor perhaps, and I can certainly see a negotiated deal involving some sort of EFTA type option, to be approved in a general election soon after.
Inevitable that Cameron resigned, a good speech from him, his voice broke a little towards the end.
I'm going for anyone but Boris. He belittled himself in the campaign: mainly because his heart was not with leave. Hence his rather contradictory statements.
What is more, he won't be a good PM. He was hardly a 'good' mayor. (*)
The Conservatives need a caretaker from October - the Howard role - to steady the ship, and then one of the 2010 or even 2015 intake to take over before 2020.
(*) And yes, I said this long before the referendum.
If Corbyn had any decency he would resign also. But he won't.
Can we have a government of national unity with sensible MPs from both sides?
I don't see what Corbyn has done wrong, his honesty about the EU was one of the reasons I felt able to vote remain.
He has generally been against the EU, yet felt compelled to campaign for remain for party reasons. He did so lacklusterly, and did not deliver the Labour vote.
Conversely, Cameron fought for what he felt was right as hard as he could.
Cameron led and lost. Corbyn did not lead and lost. Both losers yesterday, but at least one of them tried.
I doubt Labour - especially their MPs - are going to forgive Corbyn.
If Corbyn had any decency he would resign also. But he won't.
Can we have a government of national unity with sensible MPs from both sides?
I don't see what Corbyn has done wrong, his honesty about the EU was one of the reasons I felt able to vote remain.
He has generally been against the EU, yet felt compelled to campaign for remain for party reasons. He did so lacklusterly, and did not deliver the Labour vote.
Conversely, Cameron fought for what he felt was right as hard as he could.
Cameron led and lost. Corbyn did not lead and lost. Both losers yesterday, but at least one of them tried.
I doubt Labour - especially their MPs - are going to forgive Corbyn.
Cameron is the most destructive, ineffective PM we've had since Chamberlsain - for the sake of tactical advantage and party management, he offered the electorate an option that he believes (rightly in my view) would do both Britain and the wider world lasting serious damage.
Corbyn was simply inconveniently honest - yes, membership meant unlimited immigration, and we should try to make that positive.
If Corbyn had any decency he would resign also. But he won't.
Can we have a government of national unity with sensible MPs from both sides?
I don't see what Corbyn has done wrong, his honesty about the EU was one of the reasons I felt able to vote remain.
He has generally been against the EU, yet felt compelled to campaign for remain for party reasons. He did so lacklusterly, and did not deliver the Labour vote.
Conversely, Cameron fought for what he felt was right as hard as he could.
Cameron led and lost. Corbyn did not lead and lost. Both losers yesterday, but at least one of them tried.
I doubt Labour - especially their MPs - are going to forgive Corbyn.
Cameron is the most destructive, ineffective PM we've had since Chamberlsain - for the sake of tactical advantage and party management, he offered the electorate an option that he believes (rightly in my view) would do both Britain and the wider world lasting serious damage.
Corbyn was simply inconveniently honest - yes, membership meant unlimited immigration, and we should try to make that positive.
"Cameron is the most destructive, ineffective PM we've had since Chamberlsai"
No, that was Brown. You do remember his skulking signing of the Lisbon treaty?
"he offered the electorate an option"
I can understand why a loser such as yourself might not like democracy. I'm just glad he gave us a choice.
If Corbyn had any decency he would resign also. But he won't.
Can we have a government of national unity with sensible MPs from both sides?
I don't see what Corbyn has done wrong, his honesty about the EU was one of the reasons I felt able to vote remain.
He has generally been against the EU, yet felt compelled to campaign for remain for party reasons. He did so lacklusterly, and did not deliver the Labour vote.
Conversely, Cameron fought for what he felt was right as hard as he could.
Cameron led and lost. Corbyn did not lead and lost. Both losers yesterday, but at least one of them tried.
I doubt Labour - especially their MPs - are going to forgive Corbyn.
Cameron is the most destructive, ineffective PM we've had since Chamberlsain - for the sake of tactical advantage and party management, he offered the electorate an option that he believes (rightly in my view) would do both Britain and the wider world lasting serious damage.
Corbyn was simply inconveniently honest - yes, membership meant unlimited immigration, and we should try to make that positive.
"Cameron is the most destructive, ineffective PM we've had since Chamberlsai"
No, that was Brown. You do remember his skulking signing of the Lisbon treaty?
"he offered the electorate an option"
I can understand why a loser such as yourself might not like democracy. I'm just glad he gave us a choice.
I remember Nick Palmer sniggering when the treaty of Lisbon was ratified without a referendum, after Labour had undertook to hold a referendum on the treaty that was dropped but this replaced. Gordon Brown signed it when everyone else had gone, out of view.
If we had had the referendum then, it is unlikely to have passed, and we wouldnt be having this one now.
The demand for this referendum comes from that single act. Nick sniggered.
If Corbyn had any decency he would resign also. But he won't.
Can we have a government of national unity with sensible MPs from both sides?
I don't see what Corbyn has done wrong, his honesty about the EU was one of the reasons I felt able to vote remain.
He has generally been against the EU, yet felt compelled to campaign for remain for party reasons. He did so lacklusterly, and did not deliver the Labour vote.
Conversely, Cameron fought for what he felt was right as hard as he could.
Cameron led and lost. Corbyn did not lead and lost. Both losers yesterday, but at least one of them tried.
I doubt Labour - especially their MPs - are going to forgive Corbyn.
Cameron is the most destructive, ineffective PM we've had since Chamberlsain - for the sake of tactical advantage and party management, he offered the electorate an option that he believes (rightly in my view) would do both Britain and the wider world lasting serious damage.
Corbyn was simply inconveniently honest - yes, membership meant unlimited immigration, and we should try to make that positive.
"Cameron is the most destructive, ineffective PM we've had since Chamberlsai"
No, that was Brown. You do remember his skulking signing of the Lisbon treaty?
"he offered the electorate an option"
I can understand why a loser such as yourself might not like democracy. I'm just glad he gave us a choice.
I see fasil Islam is pumping a narrative that labour didn't come out in their heartlands so leave won....when it was then opposite, all those northern towns turn out up & massive votes for leave.
In Sunderland, Stoke, in wales etc etc etc they couldn't get to the polls fast enough to give junker the two fingers.
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What is more, he won't be a good PM. He was hardly a 'good' mayor. (*)
The Conservatives need a caretaker from October - the Howard role - to steady the ship, and then one of the 2010 or even 2015 intake to take over before 2020.
(*) And yes, I said this long before the referendum.
Conversely, Cameron fought for what he felt was right as hard as he could.
Cameron led and lost. Corbyn did not lead and lost. Both losers yesterday, but at least one of them tried.
I doubt Labour - especially their MPs - are going to forgive Corbyn.
Corbyn was simply inconveniently honest - yes, membership meant unlimited immigration, and we should try to make that positive.
No, that was Brown. You do remember his skulking signing of the Lisbon treaty?
"he offered the electorate an option"
I can understand why a loser such as yourself might not like democracy. I'm just glad he gave us a choice.
If we had had the referendum then, it is unlikely to have passed, and we wouldnt be having this one now.
The demand for this referendum comes from that single act. Nick sniggered.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuZRhcFnvWs
In Sunderland, Stoke, in wales etc etc etc they couldn't get to the polls fast enough to give junker the two fingers.
Fingers crossed leavers know what they're doing!