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Just to confirm – the next PB gathering takes place at the Shooting Star on Friday April 8th from about 1830. We’ve returned to a Friday evening slot following requests from a number of people who say that will be more convenient.

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GeoffM

First!

Alistair

Second - like Trump in November

Tim_B

Rubio on TV today urging his supporters in Ohio to vote for Kasich.

If Kasich asks his voters in Florida to vote for Rubio then the calculation would be that Trump arrives at the convention with fewer than 1237 delegates, and after the first vote the negotiating can begin and Trump might be stopped.

It's desperate stuff and if the brokered convention is perceived as a fix then it could shatter the Republican party.

It would also hand the White House to the democrats.

RodCrosby

A lively meeting in St. Louis.

A bloodied man dragged from Trump rally. pic.twitter.com/eyQxFL8Uht

— Trymaine Lee (@trymainelee) 11 March 2016

rcs1000

RodCrosby said:

A lively meeting in St. Louis.

A bloodied man dragged from Trump rally. pic.twitter.com/eyQxFL8Uht

— Trymaine Lee (@trymainelee) 11 March 2016

To be fair, he did look at Trump funny.

MikeSmithson

Tim_B said:

Rubio on TV today urging his supporters in Ohio to vote for Kasich.

If Kasich asks his voters in Florida to vote for Rubio then the calculation would be that Trump arrives at the convention with fewer than 1237 delegates, and after the first vote the negotiating can begin and Trump might be stopped.

It's desperate stuff and if the brokered convention is perceived as a fix then it could shatter the Republican party.

It would also hand the White House to the democrats.

Hi. On Monday morning at 0715 EST I'm on "The Takeaway," the national morning radio show broadcast with Public Radio International and WNYC.

dr_spyn

Acquaintance at a a dinner party at Univeristy wearing an Emerson, Lake and Palmer T shirt, was asked by Hall Warden. 'Tell me, where is Emerson, Lake?' The reply was not quite unprintable.

MonikerDiCanio

MikeSmithson said:

Tim_B said:

Rubio on TV today urging his supporters in Ohio to vote for Kasich.

If Kasich asks his voters in Florida to vote for Rubio then the calculation would be that Trump arrives at the convention with fewer than 1237 delegates, and after the first vote the negotiating can begin and Trump might be stopped.

It's desperate stuff and if the brokered convention is perceived as a fix then it could shatter the Republican party.

It would also hand the White House to the democrats.

Hi. On Monday morning at 0715 EST I'm on "The Takeaway," the national morning radio show broadcast with Public Radio International and WNYC.

Another key Trump endorsement?

FrancisUrquhart

I see Ken being Ken again today...and Sadiq being Sadiq....

EPG

Tim_B said:

Rubio on TV today urging his supporters in Ohio to vote for Kasich.

If Kasich asks his voters in Florida to vote for Rubio then the calculation would be that Trump arrives at the convention with fewer than 1237 delegates, and after the first vote the negotiating can begin and Trump might be stopped.

It's desperate stuff and if the brokered convention is perceived as a fix then it could shatter the Republican party.

It would also hand the White House to the democrats.

Comic
Of course Gov. Romney attempted the same uninspiring advice last week -
Kasich hasn't been very friendly in his response, having his media men essentially mock Rubio for doing worse in Florida than their man "will" in Ohio

SouthamObserver

Thanks for the civilised EU chat everyone. Having begun to think about the issues in a way I didn't think I would I have become a pretty convinced Remainer; something I wasn't anticipating a few weeks back. However, I am glad to be exposed to the Leave views on here too. I can see where you are all coming from, but I just can't get past the idea we are potentially going to have to give up a lot for not that much. EEA/EFTA is a Leave option I could live with, but going beyond that looks very risky to me. That does not make me a timorous feartie - I am all in favour of measured risk and have benefited from it on many occasions - but I guess it does make me cautious. There are so many opportunities out there as things stand.

FrancisUrquhart

Mr Shuker raised his concerns in response to claims made by the charity Muslim Women's Network UK (MWN UK) concerning the "blocking" of vocal, independent Muslim women by male members of the Labour Party who are of Pakistani heritage.

MWN UK has called for an inquiry by the party into "systematic misogyny" within Labour.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-35790164

There's no problem at all...absolutely none...

http://order-order.com/2016/03/11/labour-mps-sex-segregated-rally-with-islamic-extremist/

Tim_B

MikeSmithson said:

Tim_B said:

Rubio on TV today urging his supporters in Ohio to vote for Kasich.

If Kasich asks his voters in Florida to vote for Rubio then the calculation would be that Trump arrives at the convention with fewer than 1237 delegates, and after the first vote the negotiating can begin and Trump might be stopped.

It's desperate stuff and if the brokered convention is perceived as a fix then it could shatter the Republican party.

It would also hand the White House to the democrats.

Hi. On Monday morning at 0715 EST I'm on "The Takeaway," the national morning radio show broadcast with Public Radio International and WNYC.

Hi Mike -thanks for the heads up! It's on here from noon to 1pm. I'll make a point of listening...

FrankBooth

I've often been despairing of the way UK politicians carbon copy whatever goes on in the US but I have to say that this time it might be somewhat beneficial. Assuming it's Hillary, what sort of campaign will she run? If I was one of the Labour moderates I'd be looking very carefully about how she tries to get the Sanders people on board. I'm not sure they'll be satisfied with 'I'm not Trump.' The Tories will also have to look at Trump's success with blue collar Republicans and ask themselves what their future is post-Cameron or indeed if they are at risk of similar splits.

Pulpstar

Tim_B said:

Rubio on TV today urging his supporters in Ohio to vote for Kasich.

If Kasich asks his voters in Florida to vote for Rubio then the calculation would be that Trump arrives at the convention with fewer than 1237 delegates, and after the first vote the negotiating can begin and Trump might be stopped.

It's desperate stuff and if the brokered convention is perceived as a fix then it could shatter the Republican party.

It would also hand the White House to the democrats.

Very desperate indeed.

RodCrosby

rcs1000 said:

RodCrosby said:

A lively meeting in St. Louis.

A bloodied man dragged from Trump rally. pic.twitter.com/eyQxFL8Uht

— Trymaine Lee (@trymainelee) 11 March 2016

To be fair, he did look at Trump funny.

On to Chicago tonight. Trump rally at the University, no less...

Could get "interesting".
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2016/03/11/donald-trump-plans-rally-in-democratic-stronghold-of-chicago/

'The rally will be held in the southern part of downtown Chicago in an area where the demographics of the city begin to shift away from the more affluent, white population found in “The Loop” or the city’s financial heart. The area becomes more African American and Latino radiating outward from downtown.'

Tim_B

EPG said:

Tim_B said:

Rubio on TV today urging his supporters in Ohio to vote for Kasich.

If Kasich asks his voters in Florida to vote for Rubio then the calculation would be that Trump arrives at the convention with fewer than 1237 delegates, and after the first vote the negotiating can begin and Trump might be stopped.

It's desperate stuff and if the brokered convention is perceived as a fix then it could shatter the Republican party.

It would also hand the White House to the democrats.

Comic
Of course Gov. Romney attempted the same uninspiring advice last week -
Kasich hasn't been very friendly in his response, having his media men essentially mock Rubio for doing worse in Florida than their man "will" in Ohio

Rubio appears to be in serious trouble in Florida. He's hardly ever there since he became a US Senator, he misses many political events there, and his approval ratings are very bad. The mayor of Tampa, a major Floridian city, has never met him.

rcs1000

Tim_B said:

EPG said:

Tim_B said:

Rubio on TV today urging his supporters in Ohio to vote for Kasich.

If Kasich asks his voters in Florida to vote for Rubio then the calculation would be that Trump arrives at the convention with fewer than 1237 delegates, and after the first vote the negotiating can begin and Trump might be stopped.

It's desperate stuff and if the brokered convention is perceived as a fix then it could shatter the Republican party.

It would also hand the White House to the democrats.

Comic
Of course Gov. Romney attempted the same uninspiring advice last week -
Kasich hasn't been very friendly in his response, having his media men essentially mock Rubio for doing worse in Florida than their man "will" in Ohio

Rubio appears to be in serious trouble in Florida. He's hardly ever there since he became a US Senator, he misses many political events there, and his approval ratings are very bad. The mayor of Tampa, a major Floridian city, has never met him.

I've been to Tampa, and I can assure you that Rubio has made the right call.

FrancisUrquhart

Was it just me, or I couldn't believe the brass neck of Obama saying that the British and French f##k up Libya. There was one force that dominated that operation more than any other, the one Obama leads...

FrancisUrquhart

rcs1000 said:

Tim_B said:

EPG said:

Tim_B said:

Rubio on TV today urging his supporters in Ohio to vote for Kasich.

If Kasich asks his voters in Florida to vote for Rubio then the calculation would be that Trump arrives at the convention with fewer than 1237 delegates, and after the first vote the negotiating can begin and Trump might be stopped.

It's desperate stuff and if the brokered convention is perceived as a fix then it could shatter the Republican party.

It would also hand the White House to the democrats.

Comic
Of course Gov. Romney attempted the same uninspiring advice last week -
Kasich hasn't been very friendly in his response, having his media men essentially mock Rubio for doing worse in Florida than their man "will" in Ohio

Rubio appears to be in serious trouble in Florida. He's hardly ever there since he became a US Senator, he misses many political events there, and his approval ratings are very bad. The mayor of Tampa, a major Floridian city, has never met him.

I've been to Tampa, and I can assure you that Rubio has made the right call.

LOL.....its a s##t hole. But then so is large parts of Miami.

NorfolkTilIDie

SouthamObserver said:

Thanks for the civilised EU chat everyone. Having begun to think about the issues in a way I didn't think I would I have become a pretty convinced Remainer; something I wasn't anticipating a few weeks back. However, I am glad to be exposed to the Leave views on here too. I can see where you are all coming from, but I just can't get past the idea we are potentially going to have to give up a lot for not that much. EEA/EFTA is a Leave option I could live with, but going beyond that looks very risky to me. That does not make me a timorous feartie - I am all in favour of measured risk and have benefited from it on many occasions - but I guess it does make me cautious. There are so many opportunities out there as things stand.

I don't know how anyone can think the very minor differences in access between CETA and EU membership are larger than opportunity for FTAs with all the other major economies. But appreciate your politeness.

Tim_B

rcs1000 said:

Tim_B said:

EPG said:

Tim_B said:

Rubio on TV today urging his supporters in Ohio to vote for Kasich.

If Kasich asks his voters in Florida to vote for Rubio then the calculation would be that Trump arrives at the convention with fewer than 1237 delegates, and after the first vote the negotiating can begin and Trump might be stopped.

It's desperate stuff and if the brokered convention is perceived as a fix then it could shatter the Republican party.

It would also hand the White House to the democrats.

Comic
Of course Gov. Romney attempted the same uninspiring advice last week -
Kasich hasn't been very friendly in his response, having his media men essentially mock Rubio for doing worse in Florida than their man "will" in Ohio

Rubio appears to be in serious trouble in Florida. He's hardly ever there since he became a US Senator, he misses many political events there, and his approval ratings are very bad. The mayor of Tampa, a major Floridian city, has never met him.

I've been to Tampa, and I can assure you that Rubio has made the right call.

Lots of nice causeways to drive over though!

But seriously it's a sign of how little he's in the state.

Pulpstar

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/mook-warns-of-defeat-in-ohio-illinois-mo.-outspent-outraised-by-sanders/article/2585551?custom_click=rss

Hmmmmm Seems I'm not the only one who can see a bit more underwhelming performance by Hillary in the rustbelt. I wonder who of HRC and Bernie will have won the most swing states when the dust settles.

Fernando

"EEA/EFTA is a Leave option I could live with, but going beyond that looks very risky to me." SouthamObserver.

I agree. It retains the free movement of EU citizens, which we'd miss if we lost it. It is also the only realistic alternative likely to be on offer.

runnymede

Obama is an ar*e. The problem is his two likely replacements are even worse.

FrancisUrquhart

runnymede said:

Obama is an ar*e. The problem is his two likely replacements are even worse.

I posted this earlier. But I watched last night debate in full, the first one I have done so for....it was just bonkers how crap all the candidates were. They made Ed Miliband look good.

A country of 300+ million people and these are the best people up for election e.g. When the EU rejected Turkey for entry that was the wrong move...you when, what, where....

Tykejohnno

Nick Sutton ‏@suttonnick
Saturday's Daily Mail front page:
Tell us true number of EU migrants
#tomorrowspaperstoday #bbcpapers

https://twitter.com/suttonnick/status/708398329831542785

Tim_B

FrancisUrquhart said:

Was it just me, or I couldn't believe the brass neck of Obama saying that the British and French f##k up Libya. There was one force that dominated that operation more than any other, the one Obama leads...

There are only two things to know about Obama, which explain most of what he does and says.

1. He is a rigid left wing ideologue with a worldview that does not seem to be either realistic or to change with experience. Every action is guided by politics above all.

2. Nothing is ever his fault. NOTHING. EVER.

FrancisUrquhart

Tim_B said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

Was it just me, or I couldn't believe the brass neck of Obama saying that the British and French f##k up Libya. There was one force that dominated that operation more than any other, the one Obama leads...

There are only two things to know about Obama, which explain most of what he does and says.

1. He is a rigid left wing ideologue with a worldview that does not seem to be either realistic or to change with experience. Every action is guided by politics above all.

2. Nothing is ever his fault. NOTHING. EVER.

3. FORRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

AlastairMeeks

https://twitter.com/benrileysmith/status/708401566831796225

Tim_B

Yeah but No But Yeah but.....

A Pennsylvania judge affirmed Sen. Ted Cruz’s status as a natural born citizen Thursday and dismissed a lawsuit that sought to remove the candidate from the state’s Republican primary ballot, the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reported. The guy is going to appeal.

http://trailblazersblog.dallasnews.com/2016/03/pennsylvania-judge-rules-cruz-is-a-natural-born-citizen-tossing-eligibility-lawsuit.html/

runnymede

i.e usual facile tripe from a journalist

MarkHopkins

AlastairMeeks said:

twitter.com/benrileysmith/status/708401566831796225

V handy breakdown of what Canada-style EU deal actually means

Canada is more a demonstration of the possible, than an exact fit for our needs.

Theuniondivvie

A rather sad story.

"Former UUP leader James Molyneaux's ‘close companion' tells of 30-year relationship"

http://tinyurl.com/zclm69l

'Despite the age gap, the pair bonded over their passionate belief in Northern Ireland's immutable position within the UK, mutual hatred of Tory Europhile Edward Heath and admiration for controversial firebrand Enoch Powell.'

Perhaps Jimmy and Ted had more in common than either might have thought.

Tim_B

FrancisUrquhart said:

Tim_B said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

Was it just me, or I couldn't believe the brass neck of Obama saying that the British and French f##k up Libya. There was one force that dominated that operation more than any other, the one Obama leads...

There are only two things to know about Obama, which explain most of what he does and says.

1. He is a rigid left wing ideologue with a worldview that does not seem to be either realistic or to change with experience. Every action is guided by politics above all.

2. Nothing is ever his fault. NOTHING. EVER.

3. FORRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

He'll be teed off if he sees that

RodCrosby

Chicago not looking good.
http://www.union-bulletin.com/news/national/trump-campaign-arrives-in-chicago-trailing-incidents-of-violence/article_5ed5bb22-e7ba-11e5-955c-d7c0ef285ddc.html
Rev. Jackson helpfully compares Trump to George Wallace...

FrancisUrquhart

So in tomorrow's rugby the big match up is England's Australian born, of Tongan descent, brought up in Wales and Bristol No 8 vs the Welsh, Tonga born, brought up in Wales and Bristol No 8...

Tim_B

RodCrosby said:

Chicago not looking good.
http://www.union-bulletin.com/news/national/trump-campaign-arrives-in-chicago-trailing-incidents-of-violence/article_5ed5bb22-e7ba-11e5-955c-d7c0ef285ddc.html
Rev. Jackson helpfully compares Trump to George Wallace...

Ah Jesse - another race baiter who always turns up unwanted and never misses an opportunity to miss an opportunity. I'm surprised Al Sharpton hasn't turned up yet.

foxinsoxuk

Sorry to miss out on the 8th. I would like to get to another pb drinkies, but difficult for those of us living outside the Great Wen.

Big_G_NorthWales

NorfolkTilIDie said:

SouthamObserver said:

Thanks for the civilised EU chat everyone. Having begun to think about the issues in a way I didn't think I would I have become a pretty convinced Remainer; something I wasn't anticipating a few weeks back. However, I am glad to be exposed to the Leave views on here too. I can see where you are all coming from, but I just can't get past the idea we are potentially going to have to give up a lot for not that much. EEA/EFTA is a Leave option I could live with, but going beyond that looks very risky to me. That does not make me a timorous feartie - I am all in favour of measured risk and have benefited from it on many occasions - but I guess it does make me cautious. There are so many opportunities out there as things stand.

I don't know how anyone can think the very minor differences in access between CETA and EU membership are larger than opportunity for FTAs with all the other major economies. But appreciate your politeness.

I believe respect for each others views is a great compliment to this forum. Neither sides, or the undecided need to be involved in abusing each others positions. I have learnt a lot from contributors from all sides and while I may not agree with some I do appreciate their views.

RodCrosby

https://twitter.com/HouseCracka/status/708342295943372800

Sean_F

Theuniondivvie said:

A rather sad story.

"Former UUP leader James Molyneaux's ‘close companion' tells of 30-year relationship"

http://tinyurl.com/zclm69l

'Despite the age gap, the pair bonded over their passionate belief in Northern Ireland's immutable position within the UK, mutual hatred of Tory Europhile Edward Heath and admiration for controversial firebrand Enoch Powell.'

Perhaps Jimmy and Ted had more in common than either might have thought.

Mr. Luke is a very very strange individual.

Plato_Says

Old Holborn
Explosive interview in @bild with Macedonia

https://t.co/30qaoJEc7J

Big_G_NorthWales

Plato_Says said:

Old Holborn
Explosive interview in @bild with Macedonia

https://t.co/30qaoJEc7J

That's dreadful but not surprising - Merkel has trashed her legacy

EPG

Tykejohnno said:

Nick Sutton ‏@suttonnick
Saturday's Daily Mail front page:
Tell us true number of EU migrants
#tomorrowspaperstoday #bbcpapers

I am guessing from the last thread's article that the Daily Mail headline is more representative of the Leave side than the pro-EEA, pro-free movement of people line common on here
The free movement thing really is the kicker which splits Leave, but it hardly helps Remain to talk about it either!

MP_SE

Tim_B said:

EPG said:

Tim_B said:

Rubio on TV today urging his supporters in Ohio to vote for Kasich.

If Kasich asks his voters in Florida to vote for Rubio then the calculation would be that Trump arrives at the convention with fewer than 1237 delegates, and after the first vote the negotiating can begin and Trump might be stopped.

It's desperate stuff and if the brokered convention is perceived as a fix then it could shatter the Republican party.

It would also hand the White House to the democrats.

Comic
Of course Gov. Romney attempted the same uninspiring advice last week -
Kasich hasn't been very friendly in his response, having his media men essentially mock Rubio for doing worse in Florida than their man "will" in Ohio

Rubio appears to be in serious trouble in Florida. He's hardly ever there since he became a US Senator, he misses many political events there, and his approval ratings are very bad. The mayor of Tampa, a major Floridian city, has never met him.

Why is Rubio so lazy? Was it due to diverting all his attention towards running for POTUS?

Big_G_NorthWales

EPG said:

Tykejohnno said:

Nick Sutton ‏@suttonnick
Saturday's Daily Mail front page:
Tell us true number of EU migrants
#tomorrowspaperstoday #bbcpapers

I am guessing from the last thread's article that the Daily Mail headline is more representative of the Leave side than the pro-EEA, pro-free movement of people line common on here
The free movement thing really is the kicker which splits Leave, but it hardly helps Remain to talk about it either!

Sadly more UKIP and they have lost all balance on their coverage of the EU.

FrancisUrquhart

Mr Livingstone told BBC News: "All hedge fund managers want is to know that they're going to have a prime minister who's going to allow them to continue to evade tax and it's totally unacceptable for hedge fund managers to be contributing to anyone in the Labour Party.

Asked if he thought Mr Livingstone's comments were appropriate, shadow chancellor John McDonnell said: "Well Ken is Ken isn't he, really?"

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-35783651

Red Ken and paying their taxes...hmmm...

Mr Livingstone has been accused of setting up a private company, Silveta Ltd, which allowed him to avoid paying at least £75,000 in tax.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/mayor/ken-livingstone-the-truth-about-that-tax-affair-7660826.html

chestnut

FrancisUrquhart said:

Mr Livingstone told BBC News: "All hedge fund managers want is to know that they're going to have a prime minister who's going to allow them to continue to evade tax and it's totally unacceptable for hedge fund managers to be contributing to anyone in the Labour Party.

Asked if he thought Mr Livingstone's comments were appropriate, shadow chancellor John McDonnell said: "Well Ken is Ken isn't he, really?"

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-35783651

Red Ken and paying their taxes...hmmm...

Livingstone actually lost for Labour in London. How terrible must he be?

RodCrosby

https://twitter.com/jahna_ey/status/708355701555367936

FrancisUrquhart

Wada has revealed that there have been 99 positive tests for meldonium since the start of the year.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/tennis/35785322

There are a hell of a lot of elite athletes with dodgy tickers and terrible diabetes....

EPG

Tim_B said:

RodCrosby said:

Chicago not looking good.
http://www.union-bulletin.com/news/national/trump-campaign-arrives-in-chicago-trailing-incidents-of-violence/article_5ed5bb22-e7ba-11e5-955c-d7c0ef285ddc.html
Rev. Jackson helpfully compares Trump to George Wallace...

Ah Jesse - another race baiter who always turns up unwanted and never misses an opportunity to miss an opportunity. I'm surprised Al Sharpton hasn't turned up yet.

Your soon-to-be nominee Trump is not averse to the race baiting himself
It is a potent tactic almost everywhere, not just among Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton and black people

Tim_B

MP_SE said:

Tim_B said:

EPG said:

Tim_B said:

Rubio on TV today urging his supporters in Ohio to vote for Kasich.

If Kasich asks his voters in Florida to vote for Rubio then the calculation would be that Trump arrives at the convention with fewer than 1237 delegates, and after the first vote the negotiating can begin and Trump might be stopped.

It's desperate stuff and if the brokered convention is perceived as a fix then it could shatter the Republican party.

It would also hand the White House to the democrats.

Comic
Of course Gov. Romney attempted the same uninspiring advice last week -
Kasich hasn't been very friendly in his response, having his media men essentially mock Rubio for doing worse in Florida than their man "will" in Ohio

Rubio appears to be in serious trouble in Florida. He's hardly ever there since he became a US Senator, he misses many political events there, and his approval ratings are very bad. The mayor of Tampa, a major Floridian city, has never met him.

Why is Rubio so lazy? Was it due to diverting all his attention towards running for POTUS?

I suspect the latter - that or worrying about the size of his hands.

NorfolkTilIDie

Big_G_NorthWales said:

EPG said:

Tykejohnno said:

Nick Sutton ‏@suttonnick
Saturday's Daily Mail front page:
Tell us true number of EU migrants
#tomorrowspaperstoday #bbcpapers

I am guessing from the last thread's article that the Daily Mail headline is more representative of the Leave side than the pro-EEA, pro-free movement of people line common on here
The free movement thing really is the kicker which splits Leave, but it hardly helps Remain to talk about it either!

Sadly more UKIP and they have lost all balance on their coverage of the EU.

No fan of Daily Heil, but its entirely fair that all information on scale of EU immigration is released. You can't have Cabinet Office putting weeks into pro-EU white papers but then say you can't release data on NI numbers because it could affect referendum.

Tykejohnno

EPG said:

Tykejohnno said:

Nick Sutton ‏@suttonnick
Saturday's Daily Mail front page:
Tell us true number of EU migrants
#tomorrowspaperstoday #bbcpapers

I am guessing from the last thread's article that the Daily Mail headline is more representative of the Leave side than the pro-EEA, pro-free movement of people line common on here
The free movement thing really is the kicker which splits Leave, but it hardly helps Remain to talk about it either!

Couldn't give a sh!t what side it helps,I want to know the truth,don't you.

Big_G_NorthWales

NorfolkTilIDie said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

EPG said:

Tykejohnno said:

Nick Sutton ‏@suttonnick
Saturday's Daily Mail front page:
Tell us true number of EU migrants
#tomorrowspaperstoday #bbcpapers

I am guessing from the last thread's article that the Daily Mail headline is more representative of the Leave side than the pro-EEA, pro-free movement of people line common on here
The free movement thing really is the kicker which splits Leave, but it hardly helps Remain to talk about it either!

Sadly more UKIP and they have lost all balance on their coverage of the EU.

No fan of Daily Heil, but its entirely fair that all information on scale of EU immigration is released. You can't have Cabinet Office putting weeks into pro-EU white papers but then say you can't release data on NI numbers because it could affect referendum.

The Mail has little or no balance on most EU stories and are rivalling the daily express for Brexit. I want to see both arguments and at present the only reason the mail is delivered daily is because my wife likes the puzzles

FrancisUrquhart

The problem with the Daily Mail is like the boy who cried wolf. Because they constantly bang on about certain issues, when they have a genuine big story it just gets put down as oh look it the Daily Mail doing their anti-immigrant routine etc again.

I remember when they broke the expenses scandal with Jacqui Smith. The BBC wouldn't touch it for nearly 24hrs because it was the Mail and it sounded so ludicrous.

LewisDuckworth

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Plato_Says said:

Old Holborn
Explosive interview in @bild with Macedonia

https://t.co/30qaoJEc7J

That's dreadful but not surprising - Merkel has trashed her legacy

Not only her legacy, but also Europe's future.

Mortimer

Yes! Should finally be able to make this one. Thanks Steve/OGH!

FrancisUrquhart

LewisDuckworth said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Plato_Says said:

Old Holborn
Explosive interview in @bild with Macedonia

https://t.co/30qaoJEc7J

That's dreadful but not surprising - Merkel has trashed her legacy

Not only her legacy, but also Europe's future.

Two 10-year-old schoolgirls molested and a woman's trousers ripped off: Inside the sleepy Swedish town rocked by EIGHT sex attacks in three weeks by migrant men

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3485473/The-small-Swedish-town-terrorized-string-sex-attacks-eight-assaults-past-three-weeks-leaves-women-terrified-walk-dark.html

nigel4england

Dave was right:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10207455537001438&set=a.10201986105029057.1073741825.1078398935&type=3

Scott_P

@suttonnick: Saturday's Telegraph front page:
Welfare to be cut by £1bn to pave way for tax breaks
#tomorrowspaperstoday https://t.co/Ffffle7xWu

FrancisUrquhart

Scott_P said:

@suttonnick: Saturday's Telegraph front page:
Welfare to be cut by £1bn to pave way for tax breaks
#tomorrowspaperstoday https://t.co/Ffffle7xWu

Dons noise cancelling headphones....as the squealing will be ear shattering.

Plato_Says

If you didn't read this earlier, you're missing lol funny. Brilliant.

http://stv.tv/news/politics/1346147-quiz-are-you-dundonian-enough-to-be-in-a-bbc-question-time-audience/

NorfolkTilIDie

FrancisUrquhart said:

LewisDuckworth said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Plato_Says said:

Old Holborn
Explosive interview in @bild with Macedonia

https://t.co/30qaoJEc7J

That's dreadful but not surprising - Merkel has trashed her legacy

Not only her legacy, but also Europe's future.

Two 10-year-old schoolgirls molested and a woman's trousers ripped off: Inside the sleepy Swedish town rocked by EIGHT sex attacks in three weeks by migrant men

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3485473/The-small-Swedish-town-terrorized-string-sex-attacks-eight-assaults-past-three-weeks-leaves-women-terrified-walk-dark.html

Women should never feel they can't go out at night in their own towns.

AndyJS

Each camp in the EU debate must be praying that Ken will endorse the other side.

FrancisUrquhart

Plato_Says said:

If you didn't read this earlier, you're missing lol funny. Brilliant.

http://stv.tv/news/politics/1346147-quiz-are-you-dundonian-enough-to-be-in-a-bbc-question-time-audience/

Bloody immigrants taking all the QT audience spaces...

MikeL

Scott_P said:

@suttonnick: Saturday's Telegraph front page:
Welfare to be cut by £1bn to pave way for tax breaks
#tomorrowspaperstoday https://t.co/Ffffle7xWu

All very well announcing this - but what is the chance of it actually happening?

Will it be rejected in the Lords?

I know they can't change a Finance Bill but who knows - they are very ingenious at blocking things.

RodCrosby

https://twitter.com/10thAmendment/status/708423707115581440

Big_G_NorthWales

NorfolkTilIDie said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

LewisDuckworth said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Plato_Says said:

Old Holborn
Explosive interview in @bild with Macedonia

https://t.co/30qaoJEc7J

That's dreadful but not surprising - Merkel has trashed her legacy

Not only her legacy, but also Europe's future.

Two 10-year-old schoolgirls molested and a woman's trousers ripped off: Inside the sleepy Swedish town rocked by EIGHT sex attacks in three weeks by migrant men

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3485473/The-small-Swedish-town-terrorized-string-sex-attacks-eight-assaults-past-three-weeks-leaves-women-terrified-walk-dark.html

Women should never feel they can't go out at night in their own towns.

Absolutely and we need to ensure we do not take any migrants direct from Europe

NorfolkTilIDie

Scott_P said:

@suttonnick: Saturday's Telegraph front page:
Welfare to be cut by £1bn to pave way for tax breaks
#tomorrowspaperstoday https://t.co/Ffffle7xWu

Showing once again Osborne isn't committed to cutting the deficit. Shrinking the state always comes first.

Pulpstar

RodCrosby said:

https://twitter.com/10thAmendment/status/708423707115581440

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1T4QYiztrLo

Could be even more lively than St Louis.

Great way to motivate the Bernie supporters too. The bigger the robbery by Hillary, the less will show up for her at the GE.

Scott_P

@PickardJE: VoteLeave mole. "You've had their Project Fear: now it's time for our Project Fear."
Warnings re Turkey accession & migrant impact on NHS.

LewisDuckworth

NorfolkTilIDie said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

LewisDuckworth said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Plato_Says said:

Old Holborn
Explosive interview in @bild with Macedonia

https://t.co/30qaoJEc7J

That's dreadful but not surprising - Merkel has trashed her legacy

Not only her legacy, but also Europe's future.

Two 10-year-old schoolgirls molested and a woman's trousers ripped off: Inside the sleepy Swedish town rocked by EIGHT sex attacks in three weeks by migrant men

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3485473/The-small-Swedish-town-terrorized-string-sex-attacks-eight-assaults-past-three-weeks-leaves-women-terrified-walk-dark.html

Women should never feel they can't go out at night in their own towns.

This may not be just a problem at night, as I recall a heated German town meeting recently where many were worried about their children and grandchildren on their journeys to and from school.

rcs1000

Scott_P said:

@PickardJE: VoteLeave mole. "You've had their Project Fear: now it's time for our Project Fear."
Warnings re Turkey accession & migrant impact on NHS.

Countering Project Fear, with Project Lie.

Awesome. I'm so proud of my fellow human beings.

AndyJS

FrancisUrquhart said:

LewisDuckworth said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Plato_Says said:

Old Holborn
Explosive interview in @bild with Macedonia

https://t.co/30qaoJEc7J

That's dreadful but not surprising - Merkel has trashed her legacy

Not only her legacy, but also Europe's future.

Two 10-year-old schoolgirls molested and a woman's trousers ripped off: Inside the sleepy Swedish town rocked by EIGHT sex attacks in three weeks by migrant men

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3485473/The-small-Swedish-town-terrorized-string-sex-attacks-eight-assaults-past-three-weeks-leaves-women-terrified-walk-dark.html

It's embarrassing that the BBC and other mainstream news outlets are refusing to report this sort of thing, leaving it to the likes of the Mail, Express, Breitbart and Russia Today to do so.

Big_G_NorthWales

LewisDuckworth said:

NorfolkTilIDie said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

LewisDuckworth said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Plato_Says said:

Old Holborn
Explosive interview in @bild with Macedonia

https://t.co/30qaoJEc7J

That's dreadful but not surprising - Merkel has trashed her legacy

Not only her legacy, but also Europe's future.

Two 10-year-old schoolgirls molested and a woman's trousers ripped off: Inside the sleepy Swedish town rocked by EIGHT sex attacks in three weeks by migrant men

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3485473/The-small-Swedish-town-terrorized-string-sex-attacks-eight-assaults-past-three-weeks-leaves-women-terrified-walk-dark.html

Women should never feel they can't go out at night in their own towns.

This may not be just a problem at night, as I recall a heated German town meeting recently where many were worried about their children and grandchildren on their journeys to and from school.

You couldn't make this stuff up - History will record that Merkel just lost it all together

MP_SE

LewisDuckworth said:

NorfolkTilIDie said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

LewisDuckworth said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Plato_Says said:

Old Holborn
Explosive interview in @bild with Macedonia

https://t.co/30qaoJEc7J

That's dreadful but not surprising - Merkel has trashed her legacy

Not only her legacy, but also Europe's future.

Two 10-year-old schoolgirls molested and a woman's trousers ripped off: Inside the sleepy Swedish town rocked by EIGHT sex attacks in three weeks by migrant men

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3485473/The-small-Swedish-town-terrorized-string-sex-attacks-eight-assaults-past-three-weeks-leaves-women-terrified-walk-dark.html

Women should never feel they can't go out at night in their own towns.

This may not be just a problem at night, as I recall a heated German town meeting recently where many were worried about their children and grandchildren on their journeys to and from school.

My sister decided against holidaying in Germany and is instead going to Milan due to her concerns about safety. A very sorry state of affairs when women are terrified of holidaying in certain Western European countries.

RodCrosby

https://twitter.com/valeriemartt/status/708426234150129664

LewisDuckworth

Pulpstar said:

RodCrosby said:

https://twitter.com/10thAmendment/status/708423707115581440

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1T4QYiztrLo

Could be even more lively than St Louis.

Great way to motivate the Bernie supporters too. The bigger the robbery by Hillary, the less will show up for her at the GE.

Q. How many Trump voters are bringing potential violence into Democrat meetings or those of other Republican candidates?

Pulpstar

Here's the Trump protest

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JE3TYNAR7w0

FrancisUrquhart

AndyJS said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

LewisDuckworth said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Plato_Says said:

Old Holborn
Explosive interview in @bild with Macedonia

https://t.co/30qaoJEc7J

That's dreadful but not surprising - Merkel has trashed her legacy

Not only her legacy, but also Europe's future.

Two 10-year-old schoolgirls molested and a woman's trousers ripped off: Inside the sleepy Swedish town rocked by EIGHT sex attacks in three weeks by migrant men

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3485473/The-small-Swedish-town-terrorized-string-sex-attacks-eight-assaults-past-three-weeks-leaves-women-terrified-walk-dark.html

It's embarrassing that the BBC and other mainstream news outlets are refusing to report this sort of thing, leaving it to the likes of the Mail, Express, Breitbart and Russia Today to do so.

The thing is unlike UK stories that the likes of the BBC turn a blind eye to because it is in the Mail, these stories are just the Mail reporting what local newspapers (often not the local equivalent of the Mail) are reporting. Der Spiegel for instance.

Funny how when Der Spiegel had the wikileaks cables they were all over it.

Big_G_NorthWales

MP_SE said:

LewisDuckworth said:

NorfolkTilIDie said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

LewisDuckworth said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Plato_Says said:

Old Holborn
Explosive interview in @bild with Macedonia

https://t.co/30qaoJEc7J

That's dreadful but not surprising - Merkel has trashed her legacy

Not only her legacy, but also Europe's future.

Two 10-year-old schoolgirls molested and a woman's trousers ripped off: Inside the sleepy Swedish town rocked by EIGHT sex attacks in three weeks by migrant men

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3485473/The-small-Swedish-town-terrorized-string-sex-attacks-eight-assaults-past-three-weeks-leaves-women-terrified-walk-dark.html

Women should never feel they can't go out at night in their own towns.

This may not be just a problem at night, as I recall a heated German town meeting recently where many were worried about their children and grandchildren on their journeys to and from school.

My sister decided against holidaying in Germany and is instead going to Milan due to her concerns about safety. A very sorry state of affairs when women are terrified of holidaying in Western Europe.

My wife and I have cancelled a cruise going to the Greek Islands, Athens and Istanbul and sadly they are pretty much the only places we haven't been to. Instead we are taking our children, their partners and our grandchildren to Tuscany which we consider safe apart from the prospect of bumping into Polly Toynbee

LewisDuckworth

MP_SE said:

LewisDuckworth said:

NorfolkTilIDie said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

LewisDuckworth said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Plato_Says said:

Old Holborn
Explosive interview in @bild with Macedonia

https://t.co/30qaoJEc7J

That's dreadful but not surprising - Merkel has trashed her legacy

Not only her legacy, but also Europe's future.

Two 10-year-old schoolgirls molested and a woman's trousers ripped off: Inside the sleepy Swedish town rocked by EIGHT sex attacks in three weeks by migrant men

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3485473/The-small-Swedish-town-terrorized-string-sex-attacks-eight-assaults-past-three-weeks-leaves-women-terrified-walk-dark.html

Women should never feel they can't go out at night in their own towns.

This may not be just a problem at night, as I recall a heated German town meeting recently where many were worried about their children and grandchildren on their journeys to and from school.

My sister decided against holidaying in Germany and is instead going to Milan due to her concerns about safety. A very sorry state of affairs when women are terrified of holidaying in certain Western European countries.

A full hijab would probably increase safety, but I suppose many would regard that as a bit of a holiday dampener.

AndyJS

"Cambridge University college cancels 'racist' Around the World in 80 Days party"

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/12190238/Cambridge-University-college-cancels-racist-Around-the-World-in-80-Days-party.html

RodCrosby

https://twitter.com/BillRuthhart/status/708427512485961728

Pulpstar

LewisDuckworth said:

Pulpstar said:

RodCrosby said:

https://twitter.com/10thAmendment/status/708423707115581440

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1T4QYiztrLo

Could be even more lively than St Louis.

Great way to motivate the Bernie supporters too. The bigger the robbery by Hillary, the less will show up for her at the GE.

Q. How many Trump voters are bringing potential violence into Democrat meetings or those of other Republican candidates?

Noone shows up to Hillary rallies to be fair !

Luckyguy1983

rcs1000 said:

Scott_P said:

@PickardJE: VoteLeave mole. "You've had their Project Fear: now it's time for our Project Fear."
Warnings re Turkey accession & migrant impact on NHS.

Countering Project Fear, with Project Lie.

Awesome. I'm so proud of my fellow human beings.

Do migrants not have an impact on the NHS?

kle4

rcs1000 said:

Scott_P said:

@PickardJE: VoteLeave mole. "You've had their Project Fear: now it's time for our Project Fear."
Warnings re Turkey accession & migrant impact on NHS.

Countering Project Fear, with Project Lie.

Awesome. I'm so proud of my fellow human beings.

With any luck both sides using shady tactics will cancel each other out.

FrancisUrquhart

Big_G_NorthWales said:

MP_SE said:

LewisDuckworth said:

NorfolkTilIDie said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

LewisDuckworth said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Plato_Says said:

Old Holborn
Explosive interview in @bild with Macedonia

https://t.co/30qaoJEc7J

That's dreadful but not surprising - Merkel has trashed her legacy

Not only her legacy, but also Europe's future.

Two 10-year-old schoolgirls molested and a woman's trousers ripped off: Inside the sleepy Swedish town rocked by EIGHT sex attacks in three weeks by migrant men

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3485473/The-small-Swedish-town-terrorized-string-sex-attacks-eight-assaults-past-three-weeks-leaves-women-terrified-walk-dark.html

Women should never feel they can't go out at night in their own towns.

This may not be just a problem at night, as I recall a heated German town meeting recently where many were worried about their children and grandchildren on their journeys to and from school.

My sister decided against holidaying in Germany and is instead going to Milan due to her concerns about safety. A very sorry state of affairs when women are terrified of holidaying in Western Europe.

My wife and I have cancelled a cruise going to the Greek Islands, Athens and Istanbul and sadly they are pretty much the only places we haven't been to. Instead we are taking our children, their partners and our grandchildren to Tuscany which we consider safe apart from the prospect of bumping into Polly Toynbee

I hear Guantanamo Bay is nice this time of year and 0% chance of bumping into Polly there ;-)

Big_G_NorthWales

FrancisUrquhart said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

MP_SE said:

LewisDuckworth said:

NorfolkTilIDie said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

LewisDuckworth said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Plato_Says said:

Old Holborn
Explosive interview in @bild with Macedonia

https://t.co/30qaoJEc7J

That's dreadful but not surprising - Merkel has trashed her legacy

Not only her legacy, but also Europe's future.

Two 10-year-old schoolgirls molested and a woman's trousers ripped off: Inside the sleepy Swedish town rocked by EIGHT sex attacks in three weeks by migrant men

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3485473/The-small-Swedish-town-terrorized-string-sex-attacks-eight-assaults-past-three-weeks-leaves-women-terrified-walk-dark.html

Women should never feel they can't go out at night in their own towns.

This may not be just a problem at night, as I recall a heated German town meeting recently where many were worried about their children and grandchildren on their journeys to and from school.

My sister decided against holidaying in Germany and is instead going to Milan due to her concerns about safety. A very sorry state of affairs when women are terrified of holidaying in Western Europe.

My wife and I have cancelled a cruise going to the Greek Islands, Athens and Istanbul and sadly they are pretty much the only places we haven't been to. Instead we are taking our children, their partners and our grandchildren to Tuscany which we consider safe apart from the prospect of bumping into Polly Toynbee

I hear Guantanamo Bay is nice this time of year and 0% chance of bumping into Polly there ;-)

Great comment but think we will stick with Tuscany

FrancisUrquhart

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Great comment but think we will stick with Tuscany

Well make sure in addition to plenty of suncream you take the complimentary copy of the Daily Mail off the plane with you. That should ensure that she doesn't come within about 50 miles of you.

nigel4england

Big_G_NorthWales said:

MP_SE said:

LewisDuckworth said:

NorfolkTilIDie said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

LewisDuckworth said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Plato_Says said:

Old Holborn
Explosive interview in @bild with Macedonia

https://t.co/30qaoJEc7J

That's dreadful but not surprising - Merkel has trashed her legacy

Not only her legacy, but also Europe's future.

Two 10-year-old schoolgirls molested and a woman's trousers ripped off: Inside the sleepy Swedish town rocked by EIGHT sex attacks in three weeks by migrant men

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3485473/The-small-Swedish-town-terrorized-string-sex-attacks-eight-assaults-past-three-weeks-leaves-women-terrified-walk-dark.html

Women should never feel they can't go out at night in their own towns.

This may not be just a problem at night, as I recall a heated German town meeting recently where many were worried about their children and grandchildren on their journeys to and from school.

My sister decided against holidaying in Germany and is instead going to Milan due to her concerns about safety. A very sorry state of affairs when women are terrified of holidaying in Western Europe.

My wife and I have cancelled a cruise going to the Greek Islands, Athens and Istanbul and sadly they are pretty much the only places we haven't been to. Instead we are taking our children, their partners and our grandchildren to Tuscany which we consider safe apart from the prospect of bumping into Polly Toynbee

We took our three girls, husbands and seven grandkids to Center Parcs for Christmas, not quite Tuscany but it was brilliant.

Lake Garda for me and the wife, plus three days in Paris to see Springsteen, which will be heavy on security. Then most of August in Cornwall, my favourite place in the world.

EPG

MP_SE said:

LewisDuckworth said:

NorfolkTilIDie said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

LewisDuckworth said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Plato_Says said:

Old Holborn
Explosive interview in @bild with Macedonia

https://t.co/30qaoJEc7J

That's dreadful but not surprising - Merkel has trashed her legacy

Not only her legacy, but also Europe's future.

Two 10-year-old schoolgirls molested and a woman's trousers ripped off: Inside the sleepy Swedish town rocked by EIGHT sex attacks in three weeks by migrant men

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3485473/The-small-Swedish-town-terrorized-string-sex-attacks-eight-assaults-past-three-weeks-leaves-women-terrified-walk-dark.html

Women should never feel they can't go out at night in their own towns.

This may not be just a problem at night, as I recall a heated German town meeting recently where many were worried about their children and grandchildren on their journeys to and from school.

My sister decided against holidaying in Germany and is instead going to Milan due to her concerns about safety. A very sorry state of affairs when women are terrified of holidaying in certain Western European countries.

I suspect that the white, Christian people in Italy are no more or less likely to attack women than the brown, Muslim people in Germany. Unfortunately, violence against women by white men is common and banal, while violence by brown Muslims is newsworthy because it panders to the prejudices of white men

Big_G_NorthWales

FrancisUrquhart said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Great comment but think we will stick with Tuscany

Well make sure in addition to plenty of suncream you take the complimentary copy of the Daily Mail off the plane with you. That should ensure that she doesn't come within about 50 miles of you.

Yes and my wife loves the puzzles

FrancisUrquhart

nigel4england said:

We took our three girls, husbands and seven grandkids to Center Parcs for Christmas, not quite Tuscany but it was brilliant.

Lake Garda for me and the wife, plus three days in Paris to see Springsteen, which will be heavy on security. Then most of August in Cornwall, my favourite place in the world.

Hi Dave......

AndyJS

EPG said:

MP_SE said:

LewisDuckworth said:

NorfolkTilIDie said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

LewisDuckworth said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Plato_Says said:

Old Holborn
Explosive interview in @bild with Macedonia

https://t.co/30qaoJEc7J

That's dreadful but not surprising - Merkel has trashed her legacy

Not only her legacy, but also Europe's future.

Two 10-year-old schoolgirls molested and a woman's trousers ripped off: Inside the sleepy Swedish town rocked by EIGHT sex attacks in three weeks by migrant men

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3485473/The-small-Swedish-town-terrorized-string-sex-attacks-eight-assaults-past-three-weeks-leaves-women-terrified-walk-dark.html

Women should never feel they can't go out at night in their own towns.

This may not be just a problem at night, as I recall a heated German town meeting recently where many were worried about their children and grandchildren on their journeys to and from school.

My sister decided against holidaying in Germany and is instead going to Milan due to her concerns about safety. A very sorry state of affairs when women are terrified of holidaying in certain Western European countries.

I suspect that the white, Christian people in Italy are no more or less likely to attack women than the brown, Muslim people in Germany. Unfortunately, violence against women by white men is common and banal, while violence by brown Muslims is newsworthy because it panders to the prejudices of white men

You can't really believe what you've just written.

nigel4england

FrancisUrquhart said:

nigel4england said:

We took our three girls, husbands and seven grandkids to Center Parcs for Christmas, not quite Tuscany but it was brilliant.

Lake Garda for me and the wife, plus three days in Paris to see Springsteen, which will be heavy on security. Then most of August in Cornwall, my favourite place in the world.

Hi Dave......

LOL!

EPG

When they run stories about Muslim men committing assaults and violence against women, there's questions about why the Islamofascist BBC isn't devoting a full 120-minute hate every day to the topic
When they run stories about white men committing assaults and violence against women, it's endless moaning about how the statistics are wrong and Feminazis think all men are rapists

Big_G_NorthWales

nigel4england said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

MP_SE said:

LewisDuckworth said:

NorfolkTilIDie said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

LewisDuckworth said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Plato_Says said:

Old Holborn
Explosive interview in @bild with Macedonia

https://t.co/30qaoJEc7J

That's dreadful but not surprising - Merkel has trashed her legacy

Not only her legacy, but also Europe's future.

Two 10-year-old schoolgirls molested and a woman's trousers ripped off: Inside the sleepy Swedish town rocked by EIGHT sex attacks in three weeks by migrant men

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3485473/The-small-Swedish-town-terrorized-string-sex-attacks-eight-assaults-past-three-weeks-leaves-women-terrified-walk-dark.html

Women should never feel they can't go out at night in their own towns.

This may not be just a problem at night, as I recall a heated German town meeting recently where many were worried about their children and grandchildren on their journeys to and from school.

My sister decided against holidaying in Germany and is instead going to Milan due to her concerns about safety. A very sorry state of affairs when women are terrified of holidaying in Western Europe.

My wife and I have cancelled a cruise going to the Greek Islands, Athens and Istanbul and sadly they are pretty much the only places we haven't been to. Instead we are taking our children, their partners and our grandchildren to Tuscany which we consider safe apart from the prospect of bumping into Polly Toynbee

We took our three girls, husbands and seven grandkids to Center Parcs for Christmas, not quite Tuscany but it was brilliant.

Lake Garda for me and the wife, plus three days in Paris to see Springsteen, which will be heavy on security. Then most of August in Cornwall, my favourite place in the world.

We have had family Xmas at Center Parcs for several years and it is magical for the grandchildren.