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  • MTimTMTimT Posts: 7,034
    edited 2015 06
    Scott_P said:

    You can always spot the most batshit crazy zoomers on Twitter. They are the ones with the Catalan flag on their profile, as if they belong to some International band of separatists.

    Ooops


    Mr Salmond's intervention has not gone down well with some Catalan independence supporters, especially given his previous silence on the issue. One source described his attitude as "condescending".

    Writing in Vilaweb, a successful digital newspaper in Barcelona, Vicent Partal said Mr Salmond's attitude to the November 2014 poll was "very poor".
    http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/13806548.Alex_Salmond_comes_under_fire_from_Catalonia_s_independentistes/

    Love the picture in the linked article with a sea of blue shirts and Catalan flags, and one solitary cross of st george. WTF is that doing there?

    EDIT Ah. St G is also the patron saint of Catalonia. Such a multifunctional saint - so many countries.
  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    MTimT said:

    Tim_B said:

    For foodies among you -

    Chic-Fil-A opened its first New York restaurant this week

    This week, McDonald's starts serving breakfast all day

    :) Not sure either qualifies as food, although Chic-Fil-A is closer and has better ads but worse politics.
    For those who don't know, Chic-Fil-A founder Truett Cathy (and his son for that matter) are right wing religious zealots. The entire chain doesn't open on Sundays. It's based in Atlanta so it was puzzling to hear of a 1 hour wait to get served in NYC.

    On the other hand, for the discerning burger fan, Applebee's has come up with a winner - the all day brunch burger.

    It has a beef patty with seared in bacon and onions, and piled on fried egg, crispy hash browns, American cheese and ketchup. Let's not forget the artisanal bun.

    I have no idea how many calories but it can't be as many as the classified emails on Clinton's server....
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    JEO said:

    JEO said:

    JEO said:

    In addition, this idea that we're in the EU so can not stop free movement of citizens is just not true. Germany unilaterally opts out of treaty commitments - why can't we?

    If you mean Schengen that is just untrue. Schengen specifically allows the actions Germany have taken.
    And free movement allows an emergency brake in times of crisis.
    There is a 60 day limit IIRC for emergency action. Is that what you propose?
    I did not know that. Do you have a source?
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-13194723

    Schengen restrictions have a two month maximum. That's for Schengen not sure about our own rights and obligations.
  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    edited 2015 06
    MTimT said:

    Scott_P said:

    You can always spot the most batshit crazy zoomers on Twitter. They are the ones with the Catalan flag on their profile, as if they belong to some International band of separatists.

    Ooops


    Mr Salmond's intervention has not gone down well with some Catalan independence supporters, especially given his previous silence on the issue. One source described his attitude as "condescending".

    Writing in Vilaweb, a successful digital newspaper in Barcelona, Vicent Partal said Mr Salmond's attitude to the November 2014 poll was "very poor".
    http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/13806548.Alex_Salmond_comes_under_fire_from_Catalonia_s_independentistes/
    Love the picture in the linked article with a sea of blue shirts and Catalan flags, and one solitary cross of st george. WTF is that doing there?

    A target for sharpshooters, or HYUFD on his day off? :)
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited 2015 06
    Just heard Icelandic and Danish people speaking to each other in English. Bit surprising since I thought the languages were related.
  • JEOJEO Posts: 3,656

    JEO said:

    JEO said:

    JEO said:

    In addition, this idea that we're in the EU so can not stop free movement of citizens is just not true. Germany unilaterally opts out of treaty commitments - why can't we?

    If you mean Schengen that is just untrue. Schengen specifically allows the actions Germany have taken.
    And free movement allows an emergency brake in times of crisis.
    There is a 60 day limit IIRC for emergency action. Is that what you propose?
    I did not know that. Do you have a source?
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-13194723

    Schengen restrictions have a two month maximum. That's for Schengen not sure about our own rights and obligations.
    So Germany will have to take down its borders again after two months?
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    They are related Andy in the same way Dutch is related to German (and to a lesser extent so is English) but they're not the same thing.
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    JEO said:

    JEO said:

    JEO said:

    JEO said:

    In addition, this idea that we're in the EU so can not stop free movement of citizens is just not true. Germany unilaterally opts out of treaty commitments - why can't we?

    If you mean Schengen that is just untrue. Schengen specifically allows the actions Germany have taken.
    And free movement allows an emergency brake in times of crisis.
    There is a 60 day limit IIRC for emergency action. Is that what you propose?
    I did not know that. Do you have a source?
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-13194723

    Schengen restrictions have a two month maximum. That's for Schengen not sure about our own rights and obligations.
    So Germany will have to take down its borders again after two months?
    That's my understanding yes.

    And with that I must go to bed. Goodnight.
  • MTimTMTimT Posts: 7,034
    AndyJS said:

    Just heard Icelandic and Danish people speaking to each other in English. Bit surprising since I thought the languages were related.

    Just googled it. Apparently Danes, Swedes (at least the Swedish speakers) and Norwegians can understand each other without prior study in the other's language. Icelandic, while related, is too distinct from the other three to do so.

    Probably like Middle English and Dutch.
  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    edited 2015 06
    MTimT said:

    Scott_P said:

    You can always spot the most batshit crazy zoomers on Twitter. They are the ones with the Catalan flag on their profile, as if they belong to some International band of separatists.

    Ooops


    Mr Salmond's intervention has not gone down well with some Catalan independence supporters, especially given his previous silence on the issue. One source described his attitude as "condescending".

    Writing in Vilaweb, a successful digital newspaper in Barcelona, Vicent Partal said Mr Salmond's attitude to the November 2014 poll was "very poor".
    http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/13806548.Alex_Salmond_comes_under_fire_from_Catalonia_s_independentistes/
    Love the picture in the linked article with a sea of blue shirts and Catalan flags, and one solitary cross of st george. WTF is that doing there?

    EDIT Ah. St G is also the patron saint of Catalonia. Such a multifunctional saint - so many countries.

    I was just about to post that after wracking my brains- some years ago I stayed in the lovely walled city of Montblanc Spain. The monastery nearby is one of the largest in Spain, and many kings are buried there. There was a strong St George connection. I had completely forgotten.

    By the way if you go there I highly recommend the Hotel Fonda Cal Blasi.

    http://www.fondacalblasi.com/en/the-hotel-of-simple-pleasures/
  • GeoffMGeoffM Posts: 6,071

    Pulpstar said:

    Have watched Zac and Boris' speeches.

    Thought Zac was alot better personally.

    Boris' just went on and on and.....

    Yes, I thought it was time to have another try at understanding why Boris is wonderful, so I watched the clip on this thread. Tedious, rambling and self-indulgent as ever. But popular.

    Mystery.
    And yet he is an MP and you are not. Excellent result.
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,281
    FPT Thanks to Callum for posting the link to the Lallands Peat Worrier blog on the Scottish Mortgage affair - good post (until he chose to focus on Jackie Balllie's question, not Ruth Davidson, which like Sturgeon he ignores), however, the key observation is:

    Even if you read this paragraph - and only this paragraph - from the decision - it scotches the idea that this is an empty and partisan scandal whipped up by a hostile media.

    http://lallandspeatworrier.blogspot.co.id
  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    Clinton's email scandal just rolls along. To recap - the FBI is recovering 'almost all' the deleted emails from Clinton's server. State has asked the FBI to give it copies, a reasonable request which has apparently been acceded to.

    Today Fox and CNN are reporting that State is pressuring Clinton's personal lawyer to re-confirm that Clinton turned over ALL the official emails, which she has sworn she did, under penalty of perjury.

    This is not good for her.
  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    GeoffM said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Have watched Zac and Boris' speeches.

    Thought Zac was alot better personally.

    Boris' just went on and on and.....

    Yes, I thought it was time to have another try at understanding why Boris is wonderful, so I watched the clip on this thread. Tedious, rambling and self-indulgent as ever. But popular.

    Mystery.
    And yet he is an MP and you are not. Excellent result.
    You could apply Nick's comment to Obama......
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395

    They are related Andy in the same way Dutch is related to German (and to a lesser extent so is English) but they're not the same thing.

    Thanks for the replies. On Boris, I can´t understand what his appeal is either.
  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    Speaking of Chic-Fil-A, the IHOP (International House of Pancakes) in Greenbriar Mall, the mall which was the site of the first Chic-Fil-A, has closed after failing a health inspection.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Starling figures from Quebec, with the Conservatives tied for first place with the NDP:

    https://twitter.com/MVLibertas/status/651510005204709376
  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    Starling (startling?) doesn't begin to describe it - 35 years ago I used to work in Montreal for a French company, and the PQ with Rene Levesque was so far ahead it wasn't even contestable. I actually bought a Cadillac Coupe de Ville from the NDP Ontario leader Stephen Lewis.
    AndyJS said:

    Starling (sic) figures from Quebec, with the Conservatives tied for first place with the NDP:

    https://twitter.com/MVLibertas/status/651510005204709376

  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,281
    Tim_B said:

    Starling (startling?) doesn't begin to describe it - 35 years ago I used to work in Montreal for a French company, and the PQ with Rene Levesque was so far ahead it wasn't even contestable.

    Remind you of anywhere?

  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,640

    Tim_B said:

    Starling (startling?) doesn't begin to describe it - 35 years ago I used to work in Montreal for a French company, and the PQ with Rene Levesque was so far ahead it wasn't even contestable.

    Remind you of anywhere?

    India under Congress in the 1950s and 60s? :)
  • Moses_Moses_ Posts: 4,865
    surbiton said:

    IDS introduces the government's two-children policy. Another reason why this country will need more immigrants in the future.

    You can have 20 children if your loins are up to it....Just don't expect me to pay for them .....ok!

  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,233
    edited 2015 07
    AndyJS said:

    Starling figures from Quebec, with the Conservatives tied for first place with the NDP:

    twitter.com/MVLibertas/status/651510005204709376

    Swingback? Look at that Tory lead in Alberta!
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 44,239
    LucyJones said:

    @JosiasJessop



    One of the worst thing for me about having a kid is that my long walks have had to be curtailed. He can just about manage two or three hours in the pram as long as I stop at every playground we pass (on one walk we stopped at all five playgrounds in our village), but day- or week-long walks are an impossibility.

    And when I do get the opportunity, I become a stupid idiot and break my elbow on the first day. :0

    My advice to you would be to get him a balance bike as soon as possible. One with pneumatic tyres and a metal frame, not one of those silly wooden ones. My daughter would go for miles on one, and I would just have to jog along behind. They can handle reasonably uneven ground and unmade footpaths and make learning to ride a proper bike a doddle. Suitable for about 2 year-olds and older. Took my daughter a couple of days to get the hang of it. We had a Puky one - best toy we ever got in terms of the amount of pleasure derived from it.

    Thanks for that - I've seen a couple of them about, but knew nothing about them. It seems like an ideal buy for the little 'un.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 97,047
    surbiton said:

    IDS introduces the government's two-children policy. Another reason why this country will need more immigrants in the future.

    People can't have more than two children unless the state pays them to? How ever did families manage it before the welfare state?
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 97,047

    Pulpstar said:

    Have watched Zac and Boris' speeches.

    Thought Zac was alot better personally.

    Boris' just went on and on and.....

    Yes, I thought it was time to have another try at understanding why Boris is wonderful, so I watched the clip on this thread. Tedious, rambling and self-indulgent as ever. But popular.

    Mystery.
    There's no mystery, he has personality. People like Galloway for the reason. They enjoy some variety that such people provide. Doesn't mean they will go on to be successes, but there's nothing mysterious about why people like them, and actual competence or their actual views need not play into it much.
  • flightpath01flightpath01 Posts: 4,903
    edited 2015 07
    kle4 said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Have watched Zac and Boris' speeches.

    Thought Zac was alot better personally.

    Boris' just went on and on and.....

    Yes, I thought it was time to have another try at understanding why Boris is wonderful, so I watched the clip on this thread. Tedious, rambling and self-indulgent as ever. But popular.

    Mystery.
    There's no mystery, he has personality. People like Galloway for the reason. They enjoy some variety that such people provide. Doesn't mean they will go on to be successes, but there's nothing mysterious about why people like them, and actual competence or their actual views need not play into it much.
    Yes.
    Palmer witters on about wondering why Boris is so popular, as if anyone believes a word he says. But here speaks a man who makes tortuous excuses as to why he is happy to vote for and support Corbyn.
    'Self indulgent' he says. Hah. Not much self awareness there.
  • flightpath01flightpath01 Posts: 4,903
    edited 2015 07
    Sean_F said:

    JEO said:

    The effect on immigration of sealing off a route where anyone from the whole of the EU can come without a visa would be zero? With all respect, you do make some silly arguments sometimes.

    No-one, as far as I know, is suggesting that we end free of movement with the EU. It's a bit hard to tell, because the Out side is so incoherent, but the suggestion seems to be that we either join the EEA, or negotiate a Swiss-style trade treaty. In both cases the position on immigration would be completely unchanged.

    I may be wrong about this - since the Out side has made zero effort to define what Out would look like, it's hard to say. But since they assure us that trade would be unaffected, one can only assume the obvious.
    Why don't you tell us what In would look like? Would you expect eventually to see Defence, Criminal Justice, Foreign or Immigration policy being determined by EU institutions? Would you consider such developments desirable? Would you expect to see the UK outvoted by the Eurozone? Is there any point at which you would think the process of political integration was damaging British interests?
    Why don't you answer his question?
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