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He would then be in control to negotiate a new trade treaty. If the UK then continued to grow (as it did after the ERM drop-out unexpectedly), while the EU stagnated under Euro and migrant problems, then he would be looked back on as one of the real big beasts of Tory Prime Ministers. Labour, Corbynista and Blairite alike, would be left floundering as they had to adjust to the new circumstances.
"Which exact words or phrases will Corbyn use in his first PMQs"
@JosiasJessop
If Cameron said that there would be a run on Sterling, all our pension pots and investments would half overnight, the banks would likely need further bailing out following another run, house prices will crash, most sane companies will make announcements to re-locate and we would be plunged into a terrifying depression that would well and truly bankrupt us. Oh- and he would make the Tories unelectable for a 100 years.
On the positive side, it would sort out the refugee problem since no sane soul would want to come and live here. In fact conversely, swarms of destitute Brits might try their luck and take to their dinghies and plot a course for Dunkirk at the dead of night.
The target of choice is going to be McConnell, partly because he is a series of words we are not supposed to use on this site, partly because so many in the Labour party itself clearly have reservations but ultimately because this appointment reflects more badly on Mr Corbyn's judgement than anything else he has done to date. The whole Alan Johnston episode did Ed a lot of damage and the Tories will be hoping to repeat it.
On these words I agree with TSE. Shadsy is hoping to recoup some of his Corbyn losses. Avoid.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CO3Y_McWUAAqbod.png
"What is there is an out-of-touch class warrior with a selection of very dubious friends."
It's so last century, it's embarrassing.
Still it's kept me interested and I usually turn off between elections.
Edit: 'Inequality' is a pretty good guess but 1/2 is a bit mean. Ditto 'Poverty'
Skinner was on Jeremy Vine shortly after midday. I think he needs to say "Bullingdon" to take in oxygen....
'Danger'. ??
I have backed "Comrades" to the full extent of the £12.50 shadsy has allowed me. But then again I backed Yvette. I am still getting used to this mad new world we live in. Perhaps it's even mad enough for Dave to treat Jezza with some kind of respect. Which would IMO put the icing on the cake of bonkersness we have seen of late.
Perhaps we should be looking for a Putin.
I think alot of people will grow to like Corbyn- even some of our pbCOM loons. I don't think Corbyn's integrity and way of conducting himself will translate to votes, but it will earn him a great deal of cross party respect. Politics will become much more civilised with Corbyn around.
BTW- the Tory attack ad is pretty pathetic. Corbyn's reference to Hamas and Hizbollah as friends (commonly used by Muslims) was simply a show of manners and taken out of context. I doubt very much that Corbyn will use such sneaky, manipulative PR stuff to score points over the Tories.
What goes on at PMQs will be the least interesting and least relevant issue for now. What will be interesting and possibly entertaining is what happens inside the Labour Party and the changes to its internal rules.
Inequality and poverty much better bets.
It was the moment when it actually sunk in that this is actually happening.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uc2K6xPPfdk
Meanwhile some of McDonnell's baggage arrives at the office of the Shadow Chancellor:
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02180/baggage_2180569b.jpg
Edit. Apologies did not expect a link like that.
The agenda will swiftly move on now that the media are getting over, and getting used, to the shape of the shadow. It'll all be policy debate for a while.
There's a difference between PMQ's and ignoring one of Murdoch's tossers.
Corbyn has his views which you may disagree with, but as far as I can see he is not nasty, scheming, underhand, personal, vindictive in anyway. He actually comes across as a gentle, thoughtful man who has some deep convictions.
Referring to him as an a...hole says much more about you than it does him quite frankly
Tribal loyalty and baying Tories will get at least some support for Corbyn, and his questions could be so left field Cameron might not have an answer.
Corbyn's consistent. Some will say consistently wrong, but still consistent. And given Cameron's massive volte-face over who he wants to bomb I doubt whether he will be too cocky on it.
By his friends shall you know him.
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One final observation. The great British public are due an apology from me and everyone else who writes about politics: we did not notice the complete transformation of the second largest political party in the country. If the figure given by Tom Baldwin (a leading adviser to Ed Miliband) is correct then only 10 per cent of the electorate who voted in the 2010 leadership election, were also eligible to vote in the 2015 election. This is remarkable and represents a significant failure of the commentariat.
I am even a member of the Labour party in Islington North, the constituency that elects Jeremy Corbyn to parliament every few years, and I did not have the first inkling that the Labour Party had become such a different creature in the last two or three years. But in mitigation: I am proud to say I did not vote for him at the general election."
http://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/politics/labour-leadership-does-it-matter-if-the-left-is-unelectable
BTW, I think you missed my question earlier - who did you vote for at the GE2020? And did you vote for Jezza as leader or just like him?
As we are starting to see Corbyn is not really that nice, friendly chap who is always willing to debate ideas with anyone. What we see might be what we get but we ain't seen much so far and what little we have seen, when he is taken away from his comfort zone, doesn't bode well.
John Tzimisces brutally kicked his predecessor as emperor to death, and then reigned successfully for years.
'Globally, inequality has been falling for decades because poor countries such China and India have grown much, much more rapidly than the developed world. But within-country inequality in these countries is often rising, because it is the middle classes that benefit most from this growth. Even though poor people are still getting substantially richer in these places, anyone looking at equality statistics would conclude that things are getting worse. That's nonsense'
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/jeremy-corbyn-inequality-myth-sorry-labour-lefties-your-new-messiah-will-not-help-poor-1519216
If I have a mobile phone for £50 and someone else one for £500 then where am I unequal? How many people are denied a mobile phone because of inequality?
I do. Thatcher was the most divisive politician of the twentieth century by all measures. I can't really be bothered to give you a history lesson on it. Have a look at YouTube on the poll tax riots to remind yourself. That's not a comment on whether she was right or wrong. She was just incredible divisive and even now if you speak her name people a significant number of people will well up in a near-allergic reaction. Go to some parts of the country and try and deny this at your peril.
I saw a tweet this morning from UKIPer in Cornwall, of all places, that said that 90 or so new recruits have joined directly from the local labour party/ies, since Corbyn won the leadership. Trouble is I now find that I lost the link.
I think you under-estimate how much dislike there is 'out there' for the MSM especially the Murdoch machine and right-wing rags. They have whipped up disgusting sentiment against 'migrants' and against Corbyn with totally unjustified personal attacks.
I might be tempted to join, although generations of ancestors would disapprove.
Only three (main) issues for you to fix first:
1. Papal infallibility - a little arrogant, no?
2. Marianism - mother fixation?
3. Transubstantiation - nah. That's just silly.
http://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/politics/jeremy-corbyn-will-struggle-to-win-back-ukip-voters
Even less old in the bankrupt, turbulent 1970s when Corbynites roamed the country and precipitated the winter of discontent.
And all of a sudden the man who consorted and for all we know still consorts with the UK's enemies, with terrorists, with people who throw homosexuals off buildings, who want to destroy the Jews (and I don't think his Ministry will protect them) and who are deeply misogynist...becomes mainstream and it then becomes Jeremy just being Jeremy.
And then you have @tyson telling us that in all his emails Jeremy has never had a bad word to say about anyone.
Thousands of Lefties and Soap Dodgers expecting special treatment, and objecting when they were expected to contribute towards the services they used.
Wes Streeting is so daft he should not be an MP.
And Ed Miliband was nothing like Basil II.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basil_II
Labour seem to be going through an Angeli phase.
Edited extra bit: or possibly an iconoclast phase.