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The vote split was 56.5% to Norman Lamb’s 43.5:
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I appreciate that with only 7 MPs to choose from, the party didn't have an embarrassment of riches in terms of possible candidates, but retreating to the left is not the way to regain all those lost seats in the South.
Lamb lacks personality - but he is a far more appealing leader
http://www.britishelectionstudy.com/bes-resources/why-did-the-polls-go-wrong-by-jon-mellon-and-chris-prosser/#.VafPyflVikp
Not sure how "right" or "left" are very relevant to the Lib Dems. The best campaigner won.
I find it very hard to associate liberal attitudes and Church attitudes. The two are often very much at odds.
Ladbrokes:
@timfarron is 200/1 to be next PM.
The Gang of Four reform?
Still, selecting Farron will enable the LibDems to outflank Labour on the left . . . Oh! Wait! . . .
http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2015/apr/03/health-food-fads-quinoa-guilt-free-diet
Any article that includes the following opening to a section:
"I was innocently picking samphire with some friends on the Essex coast..."
is gold-dust for me.
Lib Dems to win over 8 seats at next GE: 1/3
Lib Dems to win a byelection in this parliament: 5/4
Farron to be replaced before GE: 11/4
Unfortunately, Mike, I retain my record of having voted for the winner in every LD leadership election contest except 2006 when I didn't vote as Mrs Stodge and I were travelling the world.
I remember going to an Internet cafe in Paihia to comment on here about the Dunfermline & West Fife by-election won by Willie Rennie.
One or two predictable comments from the Conservative-inclined on the previous thread - any time anyone uses the words, "cripes", "crikey" or "wowsers" I lose all interest pretty much as I do with any references to the Punic Wars.
Some of said Conservative grouping were wittering on about a 56% turnout - the 2005 Conservative leadership election only managed 61% so not much to get on the collective high horse about there.
I thought Norman Lamb would poll over 40% and lose - the members' poll from earlier in the week was a pretty good guide to the outcome.
Finally, and most important, congratulations to Tim and best wishes.
http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/page/2/
"LD Newswire survey has Tim Farron heading for 58-42% victory over Norman Lamb for next party leader "
Not bad polling at all. Are the Labour polls anywhere near as accurate as this? Obviously AV makes it harder.
Skip X @LordSkipVC 2m2 minutes ago
Tim Farron. Anagram of minor fart. Excellent.
Liberal Democrat leadership result (by popular vote):
Farron - 19,137
Lamb - 14,760
Is this the new - “I was innocently watching badgers on Hampstead Heath” excuse..?
We already have six hundred thousand economic migrants in one year with thousands we take in already in asylum case's.
Very strange choice, any idea what his USP is ?
https://twitter.com/LibDems/status/621707692231426048
But only Lib Dems are to the left on Social policy and to the right on Economic policy - although Tim Farron may try to change this.
'@stephenkb: The problem for Tim Farron is isn't the "slightly to the left of an electable Labour party" market pretty well cornered by the Labour party?'
It's the Labour party with the add on of love for all things EU.
Lamb: 14,760
http://timfarron.co.uk/en/article/2015/1091644/5-more-senior-lib-dems-back-farron-for-leader
Tom Brake supported Norman Lamb:
http://www.yourlocalguardian.co.uk/news/12943194.I_won_t_stand_as_leader_but_I_back_Norman_Lamb_says_Tom_Brake/
That leaves Alistair Carmichael and Nick Clegg.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/norman-lamb-wins-backing-of-youth-leaders-in-bid-to-win-liberal-democrat-leadership-10380123.html
Just comes naturally, I suppose.
Returning to your earlier comments, I was indeed saying that the EU was behaving unlawfully, but to answer your narrower point, I don't think either was right, the bailout is neither to strict not to lax, its too illegal, it should not have happened, the banks that took the stupid commercial decisions should have paid the penalties, and if they went under the governments should have assumed the mortgages, which would have worked out dramatically cheaper that supporting the banks so they could support the mortgages. The IMF had no business giving a bail out as its against their founding principles to bail out an insolvent country, the EU/ECB had no business giving a bail out its counter to TFEU 123 & 125.
Politicians, eurocrats and the powers that be expect citizens to follow the laws, and are increasingly draconian and uncompromising when people do not, and yet these same people expect the voters to look the other way when they lie and swindle and break their word, and their agreements. Call me a bit old fashioned, I am looking for more integrity in public life, the reason I despise Cameron is because he is a snake oil salesman, he spins any crap he thinks he cant get away with before then all those promises suddenly become aspirations after the election, immigration under 100k anyone ? The EU has the same problem only they don't even pretend.
The BBC has a long way to go before it starts to get serious.
Mr. Smithson, you're not Lembit Opik in disguise, are you?
Miss Plato, the Duke of Edinburgh's in a uniquely bulletproof position, and it's entertaining to see him make use of it.
'Why do you Tories get everything so wrong, Mr Zims?'
Perhaps you can remind us of which ministerial position Farron held in the coalition.
Is Wikipedia entry wrong?
He voted in favour of allowing marriage between two people of same sex at the second reading of the Marriage (Same Sex Couples) Bill but he voted not to timetable the debate on the Bill, which would have made it much more difficult to pass had the House of Commons agreed with his position;[24] and he did not vote for equal marriage on the third reading of the Bill.[25]
He also voted against the Equality Act (Sexual Orientation) Regulations, which for the first time imposed a general restriction on businesses discriminating against people on the grounds of sexual orientation.[26]
He avoided government to help his prospects of leadership. He's not going to give it up, anymore than Miliband could after his occupational fratricide.
Slightly random one question historical quiz: which significant historical figure had ocular heterochromia (different coloured eyes)?
Hell of a typo you had there
"One shadow cabinet minister told MailOnline: 'What a horrific week for the sensible people in the Labour Party.'
Senior Labour MPs have publicly warned that a victory for Mr Corbyn would spell disaster for the party.
Shadow education secretary Tristram Hunt said the party needed 'shock treatment' to regain its senses or it could 'disappear and die' like Woolworths.
Chuka Umunna, the shadow business secretary who pulled out of the leadership race, today slammed Mr Corbyn's bid to drag the party further to the left."
True to his word, Corbyn has certainly livened up the leadership race.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3164016/Labour-meltdown-horrific-surge-support-hard-left-leadership-candidate-Jeremy-Corbyn.html
*renamed 100 years ago for entirely political reasons.
EDIT: Didn't people used to say as he walked by, "Eye! Eye! There goes Alexander"
I've just started re-reading a book about what happened after he died. Very interesting period.
Sensible move, distances them from Clegg.
A-hem...
Your citation from Wikipedia is clear enough: that Tim did vote in favour of the Same Sex Couples Marriage Bill - so I don´t know what you are complaining about. His vote in favour of further time and deliberation was fair enough. People with religious principles are probably in a minority nowadays - but that is no reason to go stamping all over their sensibilities. I´m not religious myself, but I can quite appreciate how they - a minority - would feel in the face of a choice between their principles and their livelihood.
The last thing we want is more bullying from the government. It is good that we do have some people who think for themselves.
I like that word. Let me coin a definition.
adhocracy - Government by Lib Dems
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/3aae1b92-2bac-11e5-8613-e7aedbb7bdb7.html?ftcamp=published_links/rss/brussels/feed//product#axzz3g3eW0lrv
"Britain’s biggest trade union could switch sides and campaign to leave the EU if David Cameron uses his renegotiation with Brussels to weaken workers’ rights, its leader says."
Should be " I’m sorry, the left have no monopoly on the desire to build a fairer and more equal society.”
Whilst lavish in its praise of Alexander's military skills, it also opened my eyes to how Philip had created such a superb Macedonian military. In particular, the excellent Corps of Engineers, which Philip realised would be needed for a long campaign.
In fact, he (EDIT: Alexander) used the engineering skills of his army to defeat the Thessalians without a battle!
The result also provided some good news for pollsters at last, the 56.5%-43.5% margin was almost exactly the same as the LD Network members poll earlier this week
So why are they saying it, and whom does it serve?
* fancy way of saying going forward
Off topic. When is the cut off date for joining Labour and being able to vote in the leadership election?
Hopefully he will draw a line under the Coalition era and reverse the disastrous OrangeBook experiment.
Yes, it was me. I would have gotten away with it, too, if it weren't for you meddling kids.
"Indeed, some people might just have concluded that an article that referred to Mr Corbyn as a “bearded socialist voter repellent” might not have been written in deadly earnest. They might have shrugged and considered the article a joke, or at least an attempt at one.
Not our chums at the Guardian though. No, they saw through my feeble gags and spotted me for the dangerous authoritarian that I am. My attempt to destroy British democracy was rumbled. Curses, foiled again, etc etc."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/11744789/My-failed-attempt-to-destroy-Jeremy-Corbyn-Labour-and-British-democracy.html
Expecting a retraction/congratulation to Osborne and Cameron in 1 ... 2 ... never ...