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  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,156
    edited June 2015
    Airports in the British Isles seeing more than a million passengers in 2014 (data per Wikipedia articles on each airport):
    Airport		code	Passengers (2014)

    Heathrow LHR 73.4 million
    Gatwick LGW 38.1 million
    Manchester MAN 22.0 million
    Dublin DUB 21.7 million
    Stansted STN 19.9 million
    Luton LTN 10.5 million
    Edinburgh EDI 10.2 million
    Birmingham BHX 9.7 million
    Glasgow GLA 7.7 million
    Bristol BRS 6.3 million
    Newcastle NCL 4.5 million
    East Midlands EMA 4.5 million
    Belfast Int'n'l BFS 4.0 million
    Liverpool LPL 4.0 million
    Aberdeen ABZ 3.7 million
    London City LCY 3.6 million
    Leeds-Bradford LBA 3.3 million
    Belfast City BHD 2.6 million
    Cork ORK 2.1 million
    Southampton SOU 1.8 million
    Shannon SNN 1.6 million
    Jersey JER 1.5 million
    Southend SEN 1.1 million
    Cardiff CWL 1.0 million
  • CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 25,328

    200th Anniversary of Waterloo tomorrow.

    My my, can I segue in any subtle references into a Swedish band into tomorrow's threads?

    Dear TSE:

    I will provide you with a report on the commemoration service at St Paul's and subsequent shindig, in my capacity as Napeoleon's heir!!

    My first act as Empress of the new Kingdom of Britain and France is to beat lightly with a stick the person who suggested that Ed Milliband = Napoleon.

  • MTimTMTimT Posts: 7,034

    MTimT said:

    Anorak said:

    MTimT said:

    Yesterday, upon Trump's announcement, a couple of PBers expressed opinions that he would be a strong candidate.

    Here is the National Review Online's take. Bear in mind that this is a conservative, not liberal/Dem, magazine: "Witless ape rides escalator"

    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/419853/witless-ape-rides-escalator-kevin-d-williamson

    Worst taste since Caligula (mentioned below, but now with the hyperlink!)
    Excellent. Without the reference, I would have taken that as a Russian oligarch's pad.
    Clinton will be the Dem nominee.

    Rubio will be the GOP nominee.

    Rubio will be the next POTUS. He'll win 275 electoral votes (carry FL,OH,VA,CO).

    I'm predicting it now!
    A very reasonable prediction this far out. But, a week is a long time in politics ...
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Getting through Gatwick without an unpleasant encounter with a rude member of staff would be a novelty.
    Disraeli said:

    (Start-rant)
    I hate Gatwick. It is a blemish on the gorgeous county of Sussex.

    I've never had a good experience of using Gatwick airport (or is it "Gatport Airwick").
    - The amount of walking from main departure area to the departure gates is ridiculous,
    - several times the security team have taken the pee out of myself or Mrs D. (and never give any advice in response to my polite questions on how I can help them in the future)
    - security staff once threw my camera onto the screening conveyer belt from where it bounced off and broke, and I was thus left without a camera for my holiday

    And this is apart from the fact that it is awful to get to from North London, and the airport facilities are rubbish compared to Heathrow.
    (End-rant)

  • AnorakAnorak Posts: 6,621
    edited June 2015
    JEO said:

    Anorak said:

    JEO said:

    Anorak said:

    Anorak said:

    JEO said:

    Sunil_Prassanan,

    It seems very strange how governments of both right and left have been focused on creating choice and competition in markets and government services, but then think it's best if we create one monopolistic airport.

    Whether you look at competition, or nearby air pollution, or how many are affected by noise pollution, or cost to the taxpayer, or diversifying risk in the case of bad weather, Gatwick is the clear choice. Why does anyone support Heathrow as being the place to expand?

    Better able to retain it's pre-eminent role as a gateway between Europe and North America. Almost everyone agrees than a greater economic benefit accrues from LHR getting R3 than LGW getting R2.
    There's no space for LHR R3 without flattening several villages.
    So? The needs of the many... :)

    [that's not entirely flippant, a few hundred people should not hold back the growth of a nation, as LIAMT has also said]
    And a million people will be affected by air pollution.
    Most of them by an almost immeasurable (and certainly imperceptible) degree. BTW I'm no champion of LHR expantion - indeed I'd be affected by increased noise from the third runway. But I do believe it will offer the best economic benefit to the UK as a whole.

    Responding to your other comment, there are no plans to fund any of this, including any rehousing/compensation payments, by the taxpayer.
    There were no plans for fiscal transfers in the Eurozone either, and it was strenuously denied at the time that it would ever happen. According to an independent analysis by KPMG, Heathrow will require £12 billion of taxpayer funds.

    I also disagree that most of the 1,000,000 will be affected by an imperceptibly small amount. I have friends in Richmond who complain about the frequent noise - certainly they'd be affected by a 30%-50% increase in capacity - and that's more than a borough away.
    Para 1: Eurosceptic paranoia

    Para 2: You said 'air quality' earlier, so now you're moving the goal posts. I'll respond anyway: The per-runway movements will be broadly where they are now. If you're in Richmond, you're affected by landings on one runway, but not really bothered by landings on the other (or you're less, but equally effected by landings on both). Landings on the third runway will hardly be audible at all. Given improvements in tech, they are likely to suffer less in the future than they do now. They'd have a point if they talked about traffic congestion though...
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    edited June 2015
    AndyJS said:

    Getting through Gatwick without an unpleasant encounter with a rude member of staff would be a novelty.

    Disraeli said:

    (Start-rant)
    I hate Gatwick. It is a blemish on the gorgeous county of Sussex.

    I've never had a good experience of using Gatwick airport (or is it "Gatport Airwick").
    - The amount of walking from main departure area to the departure gates is ridiculous,
    - several times the security team have taken the pee out of myself or Mrs D. (and never give any advice in response to my polite questions on how I can help them in the future)
    - security staff once threw my camera onto the screening conveyer belt from where it bounced off and broke, and I was thus left without a camera for my holiday

    And this is apart from the fact that it is awful to get to from North London, and the airport facilities are rubbish compared to Heathrow.
    (End-rant)

    Oh its not that bad.....(regular South Terminal user...) - but to me the biggest difference is the passengers......Stansted - eek!
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,968
    For those interested, Witcher 3 review up [minimal spoilers, it's just the premise, really]:
    http://thaddeusthesixth.blogspot.co.uk/2015/06/review-witcher-3-ps4.html
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    DavidL said:

    Scott_P said:

    JonathanD said:

    Unemployment in Scotland at 5.9% compared to 5.5% in the UK as a whole, hmmm.. still at least we've got the oil.... oops.

    "The new boss of the UK's oil and gas body has warned that the sector faces a future in which long term oil prices are about $60 a barrel."

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-business-33157196

    At least the property market is holding up...
    House prices suffered their sharpest monthly drop in six years last month following the introduction of a new tax, a report has found.

    Average prices fell 1.6% in April — equal to £3000 — to £184,970, the largest monthly fall since March 2009 according to the Your Move/Acadata House Price Index for April.
    http://news.stv.tv/scotland/1323054-new-tax-sees-house-prices-suffer-sharpest-monthly-drop-in-six-years/
    The Scottish property market is reasonably buoyant at the moment without getting carried away with itself. Only the Aberdeen market is struggling for fairly obvious reasons.

    Because it's a dreary grey radioactive dump?
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