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  • TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,454
    At risk of boring you all, Wimbledon is also tonight and West Ham's first nomination is Jowell.

    Jowell 19, Khan 14, Lammy 3, Thomas 1, Abbott 1
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited May 2015

    At risk of boring you all, Wimbledon is also tonight and West Ham's first nomination is Jowell.

    Jowell 19, Khan 14, Lammy 3, Thomas 1, Abbott 1

    We won't be bored by that sort of data on this site!
  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    MTimT said:

    Dair said:

    Tim_B said:

    RobD said:

    Dair said:

    RobD said:

    Just when you thought it wasn't possible for Ben Harris-Quinney to be an even bigger bellend than he was during the campaign.

    http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2015/05/28/vile-homophobe-tory-councillor-goes-on-anti-gay-rant-at-the-kremlin/

    Not supporting the man, but how is that a 'vile homophobic rant'. The journalist must live quite a sheltered life ;)
    As a scientist you and Sunil will appreciate this

    http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/movie-scientsts/35486/20-excellent-scientists-in-mainstream-film-and-tv
    Would prefer to see a list of the worst representations of scientists on TV/Movies.

    Although I suspect Scorpion would get the top four slots very easily.
    Not to be confused with Scorpio from the Simpsons!
    I would imagine that scientists from Bond movies and Austin Powers would feature on the list, although my favorite bad scientist is the one on Police Squad
    Nothing screams bad science like Scorpion and given that that is the shows entire premise it makes for the most bizarre thing on TV just now.
    It's so bad I can't bear to watch it. And add to that that it bears the name of some delusional real life person who thinks he is the fourth brightest person ever.
    Sepp Blatter?
  • TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,454
    AndyJS said:

    At risk of boring you all, Wimbledon is also tonight and West Ham's first nomination is Jowell.

    Jowell 19, Khan 14, Lammy 3, Thomas 1, Abbott 1

    We won't be bored by that sort of data on this site!
    SENSATIONAL NEWS FROM HACKNEY NORTH!!

    Just kidding, first nomination is Abbott.
  • TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,454
    edited May 2015

    AndyJS said:

    At risk of boring you all, Wimbledon is also tonight and West Ham's first nomination is Jowell.

    Jowell 19, Khan 14, Lammy 3, Thomas 1, Abbott 1

    We won't be bored by that sort of data on this site!
    SENSATIONAL NEWS FROM HACKNEY NORTH!!

    Just kidding, first nomination is Abbott.
    It's a Jowell/Lammy ticket at Enfield Southgate.
    Abbott/Christian Wolmar at Lewisham Deptford, I believe.

    "That sort" of data? Worried I was going to post bus timetables?
  • calumcalum Posts: 3,046

    calum said:

    I was very surprised to read that Tavish Scott, Shetland's MSP, told the Shetland News that he became aware of Carmichael's role on Sunday, 10th May:

    " Scott said he was only informed of his colleague’s role in leaking the memo by Carmichael himself on the Sunday following the 7 May election. "

    http://www.shetnews.co.uk/news/10745-protesters-anger-at-mp-far-wider-than-just-snp

    The timeline on all of this is starting to look interesting, why Tavish did not advise Carmichael to inform their constituents is a question which needs answering. If Carmichael had started telling colleagues about his role, had the Cabinet Office already caught him before 7th May?

    You know what the word following means?

    Unless Tavish has a Tardis he couldn't possibly advise Carmichael to inform constituents before the election if he only found out after it.
    I didn't say inform the constituents before the election, I said they should have informed them as soon as Tavish became aware i.e. 10th May, instead of waiting 2 weeks before they had to read about it in the press.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,417
    Blueberry said:

    Eye-opening footage a Juncker here:

    http://www.friatider.se/full-eu-ordf-rande-rfilade-upp-l-fven#.VWdo-muCPl9.twitter

    He's clearly pissed.

    It's perfect for HIGNFY. But will they run it given that it's a gift for BOOers? If it was Putin they certainly would - see Yeltsin. But the President of the EU?

    "dricker cognac till frukost"
  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    Dair said:

    Tim_B said:

    Dair said:

    Tim_B said:

    RobD said:

    Dair said:

    RobD said:

    Just when you thought it wasn't possible for Ben Harris-Quinney to be an even bigger bellend than he was during the campaign.

    http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2015/05/28/vile-homophobe-tory-councillor-goes-on-anti-gay-rant-at-the-kremlin/

    Not supporting the man, but how is that a 'vile homophobic rant'. The journalist must live quite a sheltered life ;)
    As a scientist you and Sunil will appreciate this

    http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/movie-scientsts/35486/20-excellent-scientists-in-mainstream-film-and-tv
    Would prefer to see a list of the worst representations of scientists on TV/Movies.

    Although I suspect Scorpion would get the top four slots very easily.
    Not to be confused with Scorpio from the Simpsons!
    I would imagine that scientists from Bond movies and Austin Powers would feature on the list, although my favorite bad scientist is the one on Police Squad
    Nothing screams bad science like Scorpion and given that that is the shows entire premise it makes for the most bizarre thing on TV just now.
    It's a CBS show...thanks to DirecTV I'm downloading it now :)
    Prediction.

    About 8 minutes into the pilot your mouth will open and won't close or even utter a sound before it ends.

    You'll then watch the next 4 episodes to see if it really can pull this off.

    Then you'll realise. Science shows with ridiculous premises and solutions bearing no relation to actual science in a show which uses Customary Units in all instances is probably never going to be anything other than you just saw and none of the action sequences will be as ridiculously stupid but still actually fun as the one at the end of the pilot. Then you'll give up.
    I lasted less than 5 minutes. It's dreadful. It makes The Walking Dead look like an exercise in subtlety
  • TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,454
    edited May 2015
    Westminster North Jowell/Khan.

    Jowell 21 22
    Khan 15 16
    Lammy 4 5
    Abbott 3 4
    Thomas 1
    Wolmar 1


    Edit: Greenwich 1st: Jowell.
    Edit: Greenwich 2nd: Khan
    Edit: Dagenham and Rainham: Abbott/Lammy
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,591
    Tim_B said:

    Dair said:

    Tim_B said:

    Dair said:

    Tim_B said:

    RobD said:

    Dair said:

    RobD said:

    Just when you thought it wasn't possible for Ben Harris-Quinney to be an even bigger bellend than he was during the campaign.

    http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2015/05/28/vile-homophobe-tory-councillor-goes-on-anti-gay-rant-at-the-kremlin/

    Not supporting the man, but how is that a 'vile homophobic rant'. The journalist must live quite a sheltered life ;)
    As a scientist you and Sunil will appreciate this

    http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/movie-scientsts/35486/20-excellent-scientists-in-mainstream-film-and-tv
    Would prefer to see a list of the worst representations of scientists on TV/Movies.

    Although I suspect Scorpion would get the top four slots very easily.
    Not to be confused with Scorpio from the Simpsons!
    I would imagine that scientists from Bond movies and Austin Powers would feature on the list, although my favorite bad scientist is the one on Police Squad
    Nothing screams bad science like Scorpion and given that that is the shows entire premise it makes for the most bizarre thing on TV just now.
    It's a CBS show...thanks to DirecTV I'm downloading it now :)
    Pre.
    I lasted less than 5 minutes. It's dreadful. It makes The Walking Dead look like an exercise in subtlety
    I hope the team in it is at least portrayed as more competent than the useless group on Criminal Minds.

    Their method:

    1) Arrive in a city where a ghastly murder/series of murders has taken place
    2) Be completely wrong about the type of person who is doing it in their 'profiling'
    3) As more bodies pile up, get closer to being right with each one, but no closer to catching them as a result of that profile.
    4) As the killer becomes increasingly insane they are caught in the act, and very often killed, so no need to bother with a trial.
    5) Never acknowledge that they are usually very wrong in their guesswork and act very offended when someone questions the method.
    6) All the investigatory work is conducted offsite by the techie, with the other 5-6 there to bounce theories around.
  • TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,454
    Hackney South #1: Jowell.
  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    Two companies have not renewed their partnerships with FIFA -Emirates and Sony announced in November they would not renew.

    Samsung is in talks to replace Sony, and negotiating to replace Emirates is.....Qatar Airways.
  • TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,454
    edited May 2015
    West Ham #2: Khan

    Erith and Thamesmeade #1: Jowell
    Wimbledon #1: Jowell
    Vauxhall #1: Jowell
    Hackney North #2: Wolmar
    Streatham: Jowell/Khan

    Jowell 27
    Khan 18
    Lammy 5
    Abbott 4
    Wolmar 2
    Thomas 1

    Many more nominations tonight than I mentioned before
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    Blueberry said:

    Eye-opening footage a Juncker here:

    http://www.friatider.se/full-eu-ordf-rande-rfilade-upp-l-fven#.VWdo-muCPl9.twitter

    He's clearly pissed.

    It's perfect for HIGNFY. But will they run it given that it's a gift for BOOers? If it was Putin they certainly would - see Yeltsin. But the President of the EU?

    Good lad. He is as drunk as a Churchill or Farage, or possibly even a PB night out...
  • BlueberryBlueberry Posts: 408
    Pulpstar said:

    Blueberry said:

    Eye-opening footage a Juncker here:

    http://www.friatider.se/full-eu-ordf-rande-rfilade-upp-l-fven#.VWdo-muCPl9.twitter

    He's clearly pissed.

    It's perfect for HIGNFY. But will they run it given that it's a gift for BOOers? If it was Putin they certainly would - see Yeltsin. But the President of the EU?

    "dricker cognac till frukost"
    I'm fairly tolerant of people having a drink at work. If they can still do the job, fine. But he's totally off his trolley. Calling the Prime Minister of Hungary a dictator and slapping him round the head is the kind of thing you couldn't laugh off at work tribunal.
  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    kle4 said:

    Tim_B said:

    Dair said:

    Tim_B said:

    Dair said:

    Tim_B said:

    RobD said:

    Dair said:

    RobD said:

    Just when you thought it wasn't possible for Ben Harris-Quinney to be an even bigger bellend than he was during the campaign.

    http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2015/05/28/vile-homophobe-tory-councillor-goes-on-anti-gay-rant-at-the-kremlin/

    Not supporting the man, but how is that a 'vile homophobic rant'. The journalist must live quite a sheltered life ;)
    As a scientist you and Sunil will appreciate this

    http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/movie-scientsts/35486/20-excellent-scientists-in-mainstream-film-and-tv
    Would prefer to see a list of the worst representations of scientists on TV/Movies.

    Although I suspect Scorpion would get the top four slots very easily.
    Not to be confused with Scorpio from the Simpsons!
    I would imagine that scientists from Bond movies and Austin Powers would feature on the list, although my favorite bad scientist is the one on Police Squad
    Nothing screams bad science like Scorpion and given that that is the shows entire premise it makes for the most bizarre thing on TV just now.
    It's a CBS show...thanks to DirecTV I'm downloading it now :)
    Pre.
    I lasted less than 5 minutes. It's dreadful. It makes The Walking Dead look like an exercise in subtlety
    I hope the team in it is at least portrayed as more competent than the useless group on Criminal Minds.

    Their method:

    1) Arrive in a city where a ghastly murder/series of murders has taken place
    2) Be completely wrong about the type of person who is doing it in their 'profiling'
    3) As more bodies pile up, get closer to being right with each one, but no closer to catching them as a result of that profile.
    4) As the killer becomes increasingly insane they are caught in the act, and very often killed, so no need to bother with a trial.
    5) Never acknowledge that they are usually very wrong in their guesswork and act very offended when someone questions the method.
    6) All the investigatory work is conducted offsite by the techie, with the other 5-6 there to bounce theories around.
    I very rarely watch anything on the networks.

    If you like bad TV you should look at a mini-series which aired on History Channel, caused Texas Rising. It starts with the disaster of The Alamo and goes from there. There are several joint production companies, including 1 called "ITV Studios America".

    The show is dire.
  • MTimTMTimT Posts: 7,034
    Tim_B said:

    MTimT said:

    Dair said:

    Tim_B said:

    RobD said:

    Dair said:

    RobD said:

    Just when you thought it wasn't possible for Ben Harris-Quinney to be an even bigger bellend than he was during the campaign.

    http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2015/05/28/vile-homophobe-tory-councillor-goes-on-anti-gay-rant-at-the-kremlin/

    Not supporting the man, but how is that a 'vile homophobic rant'. The journalist must live quite a sheltered life ;)
    As a scientist you and Sunil will appreciate this

    http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/movie-scientsts/35486/20-excellent-scientists-in-mainstream-film-and-tv
    Would prefer to see a list of the worst representations of scientists on TV/Movies.

    Although I suspect Scorpion would get the top four slots very easily.
    Not to be confused with Scorpio from the Simpsons!
    I would imagine that scientists from Bond movies and Austin Powers would feature on the list, although my favorite bad scientist is the one on Police Squad
    Nothing screams bad science like Scorpion and given that that is the shows entire premise it makes for the most bizarre thing on TV just now.
    It's so bad I can't bear to watch it. And add to that that it bears the name of some delusional real life person who thinks he is the fourth brightest person ever.
    Sepp Blatter?
    LOL. Probably Juncker when he's pissed.
  • DairDair Posts: 6,108
    edited May 2015
    kle4 said:

    Tim_B said:


    I lasted less than 5 minutes. It's dreadful. It makes The Walking Dead look like an exercise in subtlety

    I hope the team in it is at least portrayed as more competent than the useless group on Criminal Minds.

    Their method:

    1) Arrive in a city where a ghastly murder/series of murders has taken place
    2) Be completely wrong about the type of person who is doing it in their 'profiling'
    3) As more bodies pile up, get closer to being right with each one, but no closer to catching them as a result of that profile.
    4) As the killer becomes increasingly insane they are caught in the act, and very often killed, so no need to bother with a trial.
    5) Never acknowledge that they are usually very wrong in their guesswork and act very offended when someone questions the method.
    6) All the investigatory work is conducted offsite by the techie, with the other 5-6 there to bounce theories around.
    God no, Scorpion is much worse than that.

    Opening, something happens involving a criminal syndicate (business, drugs, whatever) a natural disaster, a technological disaster, or something else. If it is scientific it uses Customary Units such as weighing petri dishes to identify viral growth in Ounces to one decimal place.

    2. Team shows up and immediately identifies what's wrong and what needs to be done, calculating in their heads using Customary Units.

    3. Something unexpected happens (usually twice) requiring more instant calculations/estimations/interpretations using pseudo-science to solve, usually with instant death as the failure.

    4. There is a small child who in most episodes does the pseudo-science better than the genii the show is based around.

    5. Absolutely nothing makes sense. Ever. None of the science is even remotely plausible, often it is implausible to a general audience with no scientific knowledge.

    It is truly the most ridiculous thing you can imagine on television in 2015, especially given that it is slotted after Big Bang Theory where the science is at least both plausible and accurate. Somehow it has been one of the hit shows of this season.
  • TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,454
    Vauxhall #2: Lammy
  • MTimTMTimT Posts: 7,034
    MTimT said:

    Tim_B said:

    MTimT said:

    Dair said:

    Tim_B said:

    RobD said:

    Dair said:

    RobD said:

    Just when you thought it wasn't possible for Ben Harris-Quinney to be an even bigger bellend than he was during the campaign.

    http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2015/05/28/vile-homophobe-tory-councillor-goes-on-anti-gay-rant-at-the-kremlin/

    Not supporting the man, but how is that a 'vile homophobic rant'. The journalist must live quite a sheltered life ;)
    As a scientist you and Sunil will appreciate this

    http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/movie-scientsts/35486/20-excellent-scientists-in-mainstream-film-and-tv
    Would prefer to see a list of the worst representations of scientists on TV/Movies.

    Although I suspect Scorpion would get the top four slots very easily.
    Not to be confused with Scorpio from the Simpsons!
    I would imagine that scientists from Bond movies and Austin Powers would feature on the list, although my favorite bad scientist is the one on Police Squad
    Nothing screams bad science like Scorpion and given that that is the shows entire premise it makes for the most bizarre thing on TV just now.
    It's so bad I can't bear to watch it. And add to that that it bears the name of some delusional real life person who thinks he is the fourth brightest person ever.
    Sepp Blatter?
    LOL. Probably Juncker when he's pissed.
    Just to add 'fourth highest IQ ever' has that sad pathetic feel of the title of Underworld's great album 'Second toughest in the infants' - the sign of an abject failure wistfully reminiscing on a time when he was almost able to hang with the big fish in a tiny pond.
  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    MTimT said:

    Tim_B said:

    MTimT said:

    Dair said:

    Tim_B said:

    RobD said:

    Dair said:

    RobD said:

    Just when you thought it wasn't possible for Ben Harris-Quinney to be an even bigger bellend than he was during the campaign.

    http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2015/05/28/vile-homophobe-tory-councillor-goes-on-anti-gay-rant-at-the-kremlin/

    Not supporting the man, but how is that a 'vile homophobic rant'. The journalist must live quite a sheltered life ;)
    As a scientist you and Sunil will appreciate this

    http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/movie-scientsts/35486/20-excellent-scientists-in-mainstream-film-and-tv
    Would prefer to see a list of the worst representations of scientists on TV/Movies.

    Although I suspect Scorpion would get the top four slots very easily.
    Not to be confused with Scorpio from the Simpsons!
    I would imagine that scientists from Bond movies and Austin Powers would feature on the list, although my favorite bad scientist is the one on Police Squad
    Nothing screams bad science like Scorpion and given that that is the shows entire premise it makes for the most bizarre thing on TV just now.
    It's so bad I can't bear to watch it. And add to that that it bears the name of some delusional real life person who thinks he is the fourth brightest person ever.
    Sepp Blatter?
    LOL. Probably Juncker when he's pissed.
    You're probably right - I doubt Blatter sees himself as low as 4...
  • FlightpathlFlightpathl Posts: 1,243
    If the police were clever in TV serials they would be over in the first 5 minutes. So stop complaining, it's the viewer, you, they are keeping entertained.
  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    Dair said:

    kle4 said:

    Tim_B said:


    I lasted less than 5 minutes. It's dreadful. It makes The Walking Dead look like an exercise in subtlety

    I hope the team in it is at least portrayed as more competent than the useless group on Criminal Minds.

    Their method:

    1) Arrive in a city where a ghastly murder/series of murders has taken place
    2) Be completely wrong about the type of person who is doing it in their 'profiling'
    3) As more bodies pile up, get closer to being right with each one, but no closer to catching them as a result of that profile.
    4) As the killer becomes increasingly insane they are caught in the act, and very often killed, so no need to bother with a trial.
    5) Never acknowledge that they are usually very wrong in their guesswork and act very offended when someone questions the method.
    6) All the investigatory work is conducted offsite by the techie, with the other 5-6 there to bounce theories around.
    God no, Scorpion is much worse than that.

    Opening, something happens involving a criminal syndicate (business, drugs, whatever) a natural disaster, a technological disaster, or something else. If it is scientific it uses Customary Units such as weighing petri dishes to identify viral growth in Ounces to one decimal place.

    2. Team shows up and immediately identifies what's wrong and what needs to be done, calculating in their heads using Customary Units.

    3. Something unexpected happens (usually twice) requiring more instant calculations/estimations/interpretations using pseudo-science to solve, usually with instant death as the failure.

    4. There is a small child who in most episodes does the pseudo-science better than the genii the show is based around.

    5. Absolutely nothing makes sense. Ever. None of the science is even remotely plausible, often it is implausible to a general audience with no scientific knowledge.

    It is truly the most ridiculous thing you can imagine on television in 2015, especially given that it is slotted after Big Bang Theory where the science is at least both plausible and accurate. Somehow it has been one of the hit shows of this season.
    The answer to your last sentence is the preceding one.
  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    Cruel but true. Not even a podium finish.
    MTimT said:

    MTimT said:

    Tim_B said:

    MTimT said:

    Dair said:

    Tim_B said:

    RobD said:

    Dair said:

    RobD said:

    Just when you thought it wasn't possible for Ben Harris-Quinney to be an even bigger bellend than he was during the campaign.

    http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2015/05/28/vile-homophobe-tory-councillor-goes-on-anti-gay-rant-at-the-kremlin/

    Not supporting the man, but how is that a 'vile homophobic rant'. The journalist must live quite a sheltered life ;)
    As a scientist you and Sunil will appreciate this

    http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/movie-scientsts/35486/20-excellent-scientists-in-mainstream-film-and-tv
    Would prefer to see a list of the worst representations of scientists on TV/Movies.

    Although I suspect Scorpion would get the top four slots very easily.
    Not to be confused with Scorpio from the Simpsons!
    I would imagine that scientists from Bond movies and Austin Powers would feature on the list, although my favorite bad scientist is the one on Police Squad
    Nothing screams bad science like Scorpion and given that that is the shows entire premise it makes for the most bizarre thing on TV just now.
    It's so bad I can't bear to watch it. And add to that that it bears the name of some delusional real life person who thinks he is the fourth brightest person ever.
    Sepp Blatter?
    LOL. Probably Juncker when he's pissed.
    Just to add 'fourth highest IQ ever' has that sad pathetic feel of the title of Underworld's great album 'Second toughest in the infants' - the sign of an abject failure wistfully reminiscing on a time when he was almost able to hang with the big fish in a tiny pond.
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    Blueberry said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Blueberry said:

    Eye-opening footage a Juncker here:

    http://www.friatider.se/full-eu-ordf-rande-rfilade-upp-l-fven#.VWdo-muCPl9.twitter

    He's clearly pissed.

    It's perfect for HIGNFY. But will they run it given that it's a gift for BOOers? If it was Putin they certainly would - see Yeltsin. But the President of the EU?

    "dricker cognac till frukost"
    I'm fairly tolerant of people having a drink at work. If they can still do the job, fine. But he's totally off his trolley. Calling the Prime Minister of Hungary a dictator and slapping him round the head is the kind of thing you couldn't laugh off at work tribunal.
    Never happen here in the mother of parliaments...

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1293762/I-drunk-vote-Budget-confesses-Tories-Mark-Reckless.html
  • TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,454
    edited May 2015
    Wimbledon #2: Khan
    Croydon North: Jowell/Khan
    Old Bexley and Sidcup #1: Jowell
    Hammersmith: Jowell/Khan

    Jowell 30
    Khan 21
    Lammy 6
    Abbott 4
    Wolmar 2
    Thomas 1

    I hope you're following at the back.

    There'll be a test at the end of the thread.
  • MTimTMTimT Posts: 7,034
    edited May 2015
    @ Dair "Somehow it has been one of the hit shows of this season."

    Accreditable entirely to Ms McPhee, methinks. However, she is insufficient to prevent me from changing the channel in super quick time.
  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    I have a bit of masochistic tendency with crap TV and after enduring all of Bloodline on Netflix [that made drying paint look action packed], I'm now trying The 4400.

    Golly what a ridiculous show. The acting/script just gets more dire and painfully cliched as it goes on. The plot is visible from space. How it managed to get to four seasons is beyond me. And it was nominated for a handful of Primetime Emmys. WTF?
    Tim_B said:

    Dair said:

    kle4 said:

    Tim_B said:


    I lasted less than 5 minutes. It's dreadful. It makes The Walking Dead look like an exercise in subtlety

    I hope the team in it is at least portrayed as more competent than the useless group on Criminal Minds.

    Their method:

    1) Arrive in a city where a ghastly murder/series of murders has taken place
    2) Be completely wrong about the type of person who is doing it in their 'profiling'
    3) As more bodies pile up, get closer to being right with each one, but no closer to catching them as a result of that profile.
    4) As the killer becomes increasingly insane they are caught in the act, and very often killed, so no need to bother with a trial.
    5) Never acknowledge that they are usually very wrong in their guesswork and act very offended when someone questions the method.
    6) All the investigatory work is conducted offsite by the techie, with the other 5-6 there to bounce theories around.
    God no, Scorpion is much worse than that.

    Opening, something happens involving a criminal syndicate (business, drugs, whatever) a natural disaster, a technological disaster, or something else. If it is scientific it uses Customary Units such as weighing petri dishes to identify viral growth in Ounces to one decimal place.

    2. Team shows up and immediately identifies what's wrong and what needs to be done, calculating in their heads using Customary Units.

    3. Something unexpected happens (usually twice) requiring more instant calculations/estimations/interpretations using pseudo-science to solve, usually with instant death as the failure.

    4. There is a small child who in most episodes does the pseudo-science better than the genii the show is based around.

    5. Absolutely nothing makes sense. Ever. None of the science is even remotely plausible, often it is implausible to a general audience with no scientific knowledge.

    It is truly the most ridiculous thing you can imagine on television in 2015, especially given that it is slotted after Big Bang Theory where the science is at least both plausible and accurate. Somehow it has been one of the hit shows of this season.
    The answer to your last sentence is the preceding one.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,417

    Wimbledon #2: Khan
    Croydon North: Jowell/Khan

    I hope you're following at the back.

    There'll be a test at the end of the thread.

    What are you listing - this is London Labour's choice of Mayor by area ?
  • TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,454
    edited May 2015
    Pulpstar said:

    Wimbledon #2: Khan
    Croydon North: Jowell/Khan

    I hope you're following at the back.

    There'll be a test at the end of the thread.

    What are you listing - this is London Labour's choice of Mayor by area ?
    The nominations of Labour constituency parties for the Labour candidate for Mayor, yes. They each get two; at least one (or if one, one) must a woman - and - with one exception - has been their first preference.

    A candidate needs five, plus an Labour affiliate, to nominate them. Jowell, Khan, Lammy and
    Abbott all look set. The others will have to rely on a certain sympathy/deisre for options on the ballot.
    (I suspect so they get over that bar first.) These will then go a later member vote.



  • FlightpathlFlightpathl Posts: 1,243

    kle4 said:

    Tim_B said:



    The head of the US Soccer Federation has refused to say if he will vote for Blatter tomorrow.

    Translation: He will, but doesn't want to?
    Translation: Blatter knows where ALL the bodies are buried...

    Why do I get the feeling that a number of spouses and children will be returned safely to their homes once Blatter is safely re-elected?
    I think EUFA may pull out of FIFA tournaments and in particular boycott the 2022 World Cup in Qatar.

    Which is ironic given that Platini voted for Qatar, and by a strange quirk of fate his son Laurent was made CEO of Burrda, a Qatar based sportswear company.

    The whole lot of them are rotten.
    I don't see how this can work.

    UEFA don't compete in FIFA, UEFA nations like England, Germany etc do as direct members of FIFA, not as subsidiaries of UEFA. The two groups aren't directly linked which is why for example the FIFA Football game series has the "Europe League" instead of the Champions League - they don't have the UEFA licence.

    In order to have a boycott all European nations would have to boycott individually, they couldn't get a majority to enforce a boycott on all. I don't think each nation will individually.
    Your mention of the FIFA football game shows where money can be made.
  • BlueberryBlueberry Posts: 408

    Blueberry said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Blueberry said:

    Eye-opening footage a Juncker here:

    http://www.friatider.se/full-eu-ordf-rande-rfilade-upp-l-fven#.VWdo-muCPl9.twitter

    He's clearly pissed.

    It's perfect for HIGNFY. But will they run it given that it's a gift for BOOers? If it was Putin they certainly would - see Yeltsin. But the President of the EU?

    "dricker cognac till frukost"
    I'm fairly tolerant of people having a drink at work. If they can still do the job, fine. But he's totally off his trolley. Calling the Prime Minister of Hungary a dictator and slapping him round the head is the kind of thing you couldn't laugh off at work tribunal.
    Never happen here in the mother of parliaments...

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1293762/I-drunk-vote-Budget-confesses-Tories-Mark-Reckless.html
    Oh for sure - people drink in all walks of life. But if you know you're going be filmed, and you're greeting the heads of EU nations, and I presume, he's about to chair a meeting... well, there's a time and a place ... otherwise people talk and your enemies use it against you.

    Farage was sensible enough to do Dry January no doubt to that he's not an alcoholic and to temper accusations that he couldn't be taken seriously.

    All that said, Juncker doesn't have enemies at the BBC - so I doubt they'll show it even though it's topical and perfect for the comedy programmes they produce. Hence likely there'll be no impact.
  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    I have the perfect solution for you. One of Amazon's 'Deal of the Day' selections today is a box set of all the '24' series - no idea how any series there are 6 maybe? for $65
    Plato said:

    I have a bit of masochistic tendency with crap TV and after enduring all of Bloodline on Netflix [that made drying paint look action packed], I'm now trying The 4400.

    Golly what a ridiculous show. The acting/script just gets more dire and painfully cliched as it goes on. The plot is visible from space. How it managed to get to four seasons is beyond me. And it was nominated for a handful of Primetime Emmys. WTF?

    Tim_B said:

    Dair said:

    kle4 said:

    Tim_B said:


    I lasted less than 5 minutes. It's dreadful. It makes The Walking Dead look like an exercise in subtlety

    the useless group on Criminal Minds.

    Their method:

    1) Arrive in a city where a ghastly murder/series of murders has taken place
    2) Be completely wrong about the type of person who is doing it in their 'profiling'
    3) As more bodies pile up, get closer to being right with each one, but no closer to catching them as a result of that profile.
    4) As the killer becomes increasingly insane they are caught in the act, and very often killed, so no need to bother with a trial.
    5) Never acknowledge that they are usually very wrong in their guesswork and act very offended when someone questions the method.
    6) All the investigatory work is conducted offsite by the techie, with the other 5-6 there to bounce theories around.
    God no, Scorpion is much worse than that.

    Opening, something happens involving a criminal syndicate (business, drugs, whatever) a natural disaster, a technological disaster, or something else. If it is scientific it uses Customary Units such as weighing petri dishes to identify viral growth in Ounces to one decimal place.

    2. Team shows up and immediately identifies what's wrong and what needs to be done, calculating in their heads using Customary Units.

    3. Something unexpected happens (usually twice) requiring more instant calculations/estimations/interpretations using pseudo-science to solve, usually with instant death as the failure.

    4. There is a small child who in most episodes does the pseudo-science better than the genii the show is based around.

    5. Absolutely nothing makes sense. Ever. None of the science is even remotely plausible, often it is implausible to a general audience with no scientific knowledge.

    It is truly the most ridiculous thing you can imagine on television in 2015, especially given that it is slotted after Big Bang Theory where the science is at least both plausible and accurate. Somehow it has been one of the hit shows of this season.
    The answer to your last sentence is the preceding one.
  • TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,454
    https://you.38degrees.org.uk/petitions/we-want-an-anti-austerity-labour-party-leader

    Doing the rounds on Twitter today.

    "We would like the Parliamentary Labour Party to ensure the next leader takes an anti-austerity stance."
  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    edited May 2015
    Oh I watched all of 24 and spent 90% of it LOLing. It's hilariously bad - the only good thing is suggesting that Jack Bauer is needed to fix a problem in casual conversation to see that faint look of Hmm. That name sounds familiar.

    There's a scene in House when Greg H mentions him as the only way to fix some calamity. Now that's a show with a formula! It's written on a grid.
    Tim_B said:

    I have the perfect solution for you. One of Amazon's 'Deal of the Day' selections today is a box set of all the '24' series - no idea how any series there are 6 maybe? for $65


    Plato said:

    snip

    Golly what a ridiculous show. The acting/script just gets more dire and painfully cliched as it goes on. The plot is visible from space. How it managed to get to four seasons is beyond me. And it was nominated for a handful of Primetime Emmys. WTF?

    Tim_B said:



    Their method:

    1) Arrive in a city where a ghastly murder/series of murders has taken place
    2) Be completely wrong about the type of person who is doing it in their 'profiling'
    3) As more bodies pile up, get closer to being right with each one, but no closer to catching them as a result of that profile.
    4) As the killer becomes increasingly insane they are caught in the act, and very often killed, so no need to bother with a trial.
    5) Never acknowledge that they are usually very wrong in their guesswork and act very offended when someone questions the method.
    6) All the investigatory work is conducted offsite by the techie, with the other 5-6 there to bounce theories around.

    God no, Scorpion is much worse than that.

    Opening, something happens involving a criminal syndicate (business, drugs, whatever) a natural disaster, a technological disaster, or something else. If it is scientific it uses Customary Units such as weighing petri dishes to identify viral growth in Ounces to one decimal place.

    2. Team shows up and immediately identifies what's wrong and what needs to be done, calculating in their heads using Customary Units.

    3. Something unexpected happens (usually twice) requiring more instant calculations/estimations/interpretations using pseudo-science to solve, usually with instant death as the failure.

    4. There is a small child who in most episodes does the pseudo-science better than the genii the show is based around.

    5. Absolutely nothing makes sense. Ever. None of the science is even remotely plausible, often it is implausible to a general audience with no scientific knowledge.

    It is truly the most ridiculous thing you can imagine on television in 2015, especially given that it is slotted after Big Bang Theory where the science is at least both plausible and accurate. Somehow it has been one of the hit shows of this season.
    The answer to your last sentence is the preceding one.




  • MTimTMTimT Posts: 7,034
    edited May 2015

    https://you.38degrees.org.uk/petitions/we-want-an-anti-austerity-labour-party-leader

    Doing the rounds on Twitter today.

    "We would like the Parliamentary Labour Party to ensure the next leader takes an anti-austerity stance."

    So perfect for a Labour Party trying to reinvent itself. Let's focus on a problem that won't exist by the next election.
  • TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,454
    Hackney South #2: Lammy.

    66 of 146 declared.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,981

    Blueberry said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Blueberry said:

    Eye-opening footage a Juncker here:

    http://www.friatider.se/full-eu-ordf-rande-rfilade-upp-l-fven#.VWdo-muCPl9.twitter

    He's clearly pissed.

    It's perfect for HIGNFY. But will they run it given that it's a gift for BOOers? If it was Putin they certainly would - see Yeltsin. But the President of the EU?

    "dricker cognac till frukost"
    I'm fairly tolerant of people having a drink at work. If they can still do the job, fine. But he's totally off his trolley. Calling the Prime Minister of Hungary a dictator and slapping him round the head is the kind of thing you couldn't laugh off at work tribunal.
    Never happen here in the mother of parliaments...

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1293762/I-drunk-vote-Budget-confesses-Tories-Mark-Reckless.html
    Mark Reckless? That name sounds familiar.

    Whatever happened to him ?
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    Tim_B said:

    I have the perfect solution for you. One of Amazon's 'Deal of the Day' selections today is a box set of all the '24' series - no idea how any series there are 6 maybe? for $65

    I would rather watch 144 hours of the Cowboys
  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    Shh, don't interrupt them!
    MTimT said:

    https://you.38degrees.org.uk/petitions/we-want-an-anti-austerity-labour-party-leader

    Doing the rounds on Twitter today.

    "We would like the Parliamentary Labour Party to ensure the next leader takes an anti-austerity stance."

    So perfect for a Labour Party trying to reinvent itself. Let's focus on a problem that won't exist by the next election.
  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    Scott_P said:

    Tim_B said:

    I have the perfect solution for you. One of Amazon's 'Deal of the Day' selections today is a box set of all the '24' series - no idea how any series there are 6 maybe? for $65

    I would rather watch 144 hours of the Cowboys
    Most people would.......
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,981
    edited May 2015

    New thread

  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548

    Blueberry said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Blueberry said:

    Eye-opening footage a Juncker here:

    http://www.friatider.se/full-eu-ordf-rande-rfilade-upp-l-fven#.VWdo-muCPl9.twitter

    He's clearly pissed.

    It's perfect for HIGNFY. But will they run it given that it's a gift for BOOers? If it was Putin they certainly would - see Yeltsin. But the President of the EU?

    "dricker cognac till frukost"
    I'm fairly tolerant of people having a drink at work. If they can still do the job, fine. But he's totally off his trolley. Calling the Prime Minister of Hungary a dictator and slapping him round the head is the kind of thing you couldn't laugh off at work tribunal.
    Never happen here in the mother of parliaments...

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1293762/I-drunk-vote-Budget-confesses-Tories-Mark-Reckless.html
    Mark Reckless? That name sounds familiar.

    Whatever happened to him ?
    Drowning his sorrows??
  • stodgestodge Posts: 13,993
    Evening all :)

    The London Mayoral election looks like being a fascinating battle as all parties search for the candidate who will be able to reach beyond their traditional core areas of support. There's a very long way to go but I suspect there will be punting possibilities aplenty.

    One aspect of the new Government's Queen's Speech which I find curious is the renewed onslaught on the Trade Unions. Irrespective of the folk memory of February 1974, the fact remains the Unions have been incredibly useful to the Conservatives over the years. Their presence and financial influence and dominance over Labour has been an incredibly useful stick with which to beat that Party.

    The move to force union members to opt in to pay the political levy could be viewed as a deliberate attempt to financially emasculate Labour and that may be true but to this observer it's ill-advised. When Tony Blair got Clause IV amended in 1995 it sent a clear signal the Labour Party would not only no longer be in thrall to the unions but was also a non-socialist party of the centre left for which people could vote in safety (which they did).

    A Kendall-led Labour party might, in concert with the legislation, seek its own Clause IV moment via the disaffiliation of UNITE. Far from this weakening and financially ruining Labour, it would allow Labour to re-invent itself as a grass roots member-led party of the centre, supported by and run by its members in direct contrast to the Conservatives on whom the spotlight would then fall in terms of significant donors.

    On the EU Referendum, Cameron's transparent tactics represent a huge personal and political gamble. He has to come back with something meaningful and significant in terms of renegotiated membership - a fudge which quickly unravels would be hugely damaging. Yet Cameron can't rely on me to vote YES simply because I'm pro-EU - the terms under which we would remain in the EU are significant and if the truth is some kind of semi-detached muddle the option to vote NO would still exist.
  • DairDair Posts: 6,108
    MTimT said:

    @ Dair "Somehow it has been one of the hit shows of this season."

    Accreditable entirely to Ms McPhee, methinks. However, she is insufficient to prevent me from changing the channel in super quick time.

    Should ratings only work based on the absolute attraction of the female star, then iZombie would be the highest rated show on TV (and even without that it deserves to be).
  • SquareRootSquareRoot Posts: 7,095
    Been away for 24 hrs so not read the comments, but looking back at the polls, what is remarkable is that Messina knew the polls were rubbish, Labour thought the Tories were screwed by the ground game (see IOS) but then we now know Labour were hiding the truth from their own supporters, whilst it would be fair to say that some .... cough cough) who had no access to polling data, knew deep down that something was very wrong.
    How the hell did Labour and the Tories know what was what but the polling companies wrre reporting something completely different???

  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 43,401

    Carnyx said:



    [snip]

    O/t:

    Carnyx, I think you recommended Andrew Dow's last book, 'The Railway' to me. If you did, then can I thank you as it really is very much up my street. An excellent read for railway nerds.

    An ex-girlfriend came to visit today and whilst she was cooing over my son, I was sitting in the rocking chair reading the book. I think this is what happens when a) you reach middle age, b) you get married, and c) you get an afternoon of free childcare. ;-)

    I did indeed. I was wondering if you had got it, as I hung onto my library copy long enough to read it again from cover to cover. Not just oddities like glass sleepers but also the general evolution of the technology - far less uniform than I had conceived.

    Edit: if @Sunil and @Dr_Spyn are interested - it's about the permanent way itself.
    It's been fascinating so far. I've been pick-n-mixing sections, but it's already answered some questions that I've had for years.

    There are lots of weird hobbies out there. One guy I knew used to collect rail chairs, collecting one of as many different types as possible. He'd get really excited if we were on a salvage job and he'd find an ex-LYR or MBMMJR (*) chair that he hadn't got.

    I never discovered if that hobby survived his marriage. ;-)

    (*) Manchester, Buxton, Matlock and Midlands Joint Railway. And that isn't even the longest name of the pre-grouping companies. And no, this is nothing to do with politics or netting. ;-)
    That hobby might not survive his next house move! Or his next house might not survive the floor loading! I once saw round the stores (ie not nomally open to the public) of the National Railway Museum in York, no doubt seeing some of the stuff mentioned in the book. They have some serious cast iron there - they have a standard welded angle steel and mesh cage just to handle chairs and the like and move them around in a standardised way. But what really got my attention was a chunk of the CI piping for the South Devon Atmospheric Railway sitting out in the yard.

    Better stop there though lest I bore everyone ... but a serious point about the book is that it showed clearly just how modern high speeds are pushing the limits of the track unless it is very well maintained.
  • DairDair Posts: 6,108
    Plato said:

    Oh I watched all of 24 and spent 90% of it LOLing. It's hilariously bad - the only good thing is suggesting that Jack Bauer is needed to fix a problem in casual conversation to see that faint look of Hmm. That name sounds familiar.

    There's a scene in House when Greg H mentions him as the only way to fix some calamity. Now that's a show with a formula! It's written on a grid.

    Not sure I would agree, having watched the entire saga about two years ago and the Sky/Fox Cable/UK style shortened season this year, i would say that regardless of other considerations, 24 is a remarkably good TV show.
  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    @stodge

    The move to force union members to opt in to pay the political levy could be viewed as a deliberate attempt to financially emasculate Labour and that may be true but to this observer it's ill-advised.

    On the one hand you say it's ill-advised to allow union members freedom of choice with their own money, and on the other hand admit that Labour depends on them being coerced to pay the political levy for financial solvency. Doesn't say much for Labour.

    Recent experience, not least in Wisconsin, suggests that if you give them the choice they will obviously choose not to pay it, and given the ending of the closed shop, most will choose not to join a union.

    Another reason Labour needs to shed its links with the unions and reinvent itself.
  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    FIFA - wouldn't it be so cool if we could link it to Hillary Clinton? The conspiracy crowd would love it.

    Well, your wish is my command.

    Several networks are reporting that FIFA has donated $50-100k to the Clinton Foundation.
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    Dair said:

    Plato said:

    Oh I watched all of 24 and spent 90% of it LOLing. It's hilariously bad - the only good thing is suggesting that Jack Bauer is needed to fix a problem in casual conversation to see that faint look of Hmm. That name sounds familiar.

    There's a scene in House when Greg H mentions him as the only way to fix some calamity. Now that's a show with a formula! It's written on a grid.

    Not sure I would agree, having watched the entire saga about two years ago and the Sky/Fox Cable/UK style shortened season this year, i would say that regardless of other considerations, 24 is a remarkably good TV show.
    The first season of 24 is brilliant. All the other season I watched were garbage.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,591
    edited May 2015
    Dair said:

    MTimT said:

    @ Dair "Somehow it has been one of the hit shows of this season."

    Accreditable entirely to Ms McPhee, methinks. However, she is insufficient to prevent me from changing the channel in super quick time.

    Should ratings only work based on the absolute attraction of the female star, then iZombie would be the highest rated show on TV (and even without that it deserves to be).
    I was sceptical, but it's actually a lot of fun. I like the gimmick where the lead picks up on personality traits of the 'victim of the week' (due to eating their brains) and so gets some versatile acting in, and some funny moments.
    Plato said:

    I have a bit of masochistic tendency with crap TV and after enduring all of Bloodline on Netflix [that made drying paint look action packed], I'm now trying The 4400.

    Golly what a ridiculous show. The acting/script just gets more dire and painfully cliched as it goes on. The plot is visible from space. How it managed to get to four seasons is beyond me. And it was nominated for a handful of Primetime Emmys. WTF?

    Tim_B said:


    Dair said:



    kle4 said:

    Tim_B said:


    I lasted less than 5 minutes. It's dreadful. It makes The Walking Dead look like an exercise in subtlety

    I hond.
    Godshows of this season.
    The a one.
    Awkward. That's one of my favourite TV shows. I still get angry that it was renewed for its final season, then the writer's strike happened, and it was cancelled.

    If the police were clever in TV serials they would be over in the first 5 minutes. So stop complaining, it's the viewer, you, they are keeping entertained.

    All in good fun I assure you, I like crime procedurals, and you do have to accept certain things to get through them. It's just at some point, however many years in, certain patterns become so repeated my suspension of disbelief falls and I cannot watch it. How soon it happens depends on how good the show is and how ridiculous the show is.

    That show 'Lie to Me' I just couldn't take seriously - it's all about a behavioural expert being able to pick up on verbal and visual cues that people cannot control to spot when they are lying...except it's a tv show, so obviously people can fake those cues (they zoom in on them and stuff), so mentally i cannot accept it.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,591
    Tim_B said:



    Several networks are reporting that FIFA has donated $50-100k to the Clinton Foundation.

    Awesome - that could give it some legs, nothing like a 'How could this affect 2016?' link to keep a story going.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 52,303
    Tim_B said:

    FIFA - wouldn't it be so cool if we could link it to Hillary Clinton? The conspiracy crowd would love it.

    Well, your wish is my command.

    Several networks are reporting that FIFA has donated $50-100k to the Clinton Foundation.

    It would be highly embarrassing if any emails relating to this had been deleted.
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