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    Or the Bananarama classic.
    Guilty of Gove in the first degree

    Plato said:

    AveryLP said:

    A musical divertimento from Merseyside:

    All you need is Gove, all you need is Gove,
    All you need is Gove, Gove, Gove is all you need.
    Gove, Gove, Gove, Gove, Gove, Gove, Gove, Gove, Gove.
    All you need is Gove, all you need is Gove,
    All you need is Gove, Gove, Gove is all you need.
    There's nothing you can know that isn't known.
    Nothing you can see that isn't shown.
    Nowhere you can be that isn't where you're meant to be.
    It's easy.
    All you need is Gove, all you need is Gove,
    All you need is Gove, Gove, Gove is all you need.
    All you need is Gove (all together now)
    All you need is Gove (everybody)
    All you need is Gove, Gove, Gove is all you need.

    Yes, Gove,
    Gove changes everything:
    Now I tremble
    At your name.
    Nothing in the
    World will ever
    Be the same.


    Set to work idle hands
    Shake these thoughts
    Had I planned them
    They never would be teasing me
    As viciously as these

    Is this Gove?
    Is this Gove?
    Gove lifts us up where we belong...
    Stop in the name of Gove
    before you break my heart!
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    MikeSmithsonMikeSmithson Posts: 7,382
    We are in a first past the post system. Everything depends what happens in specific seats.

    National vote share is irrelevant in determinng the outcome. In CON-LAB battlegrounds the LDs will plummet in terms of votes. . In CON-LD battles the opposite will happen as we've seen in what polling of the marginals that there's been.

    Pulpstar said:

    Pulpstar said:



    Who is this polling bad for again ?

    Michael Gove as is patently obvious.



    Because he is causing Lib Demmers to switch to Labour ? I'd say thats bad for LD and good for Labour ! In a round about FPTP way its probably not great for CON, but the LDs will hopefully divorce and state their own education policies before the next election which should get back some of the switchers.

    Party A shouldn't really worry too much about people from party B switching to party C. Thats more party B's problem.
    If you state it is party A's issue then party B has lost their identity and is truly f***ed.
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    taffystaffys Posts: 9,753
    Tina Turner

    What's Gove got to do, got to do with it,
    What's Gove, but a second hand emotion...
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    Level 42 - Lessons in Gove
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,929
    *National vote share is irrelevant in determinng the outcome.*

    Sad but true ! Labour landslide incoming on 32% of the vote !
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    taffystaffys Posts: 9,753
    John Bon Jovi

    Shot through the heart,
    And tim's to blame,
    you give Gove a bad name...
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    isamisam Posts: 40,930
    Bon Jovi - Yougov Give Gove a Bad Name
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    CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758

    Level 42 - Lessons in Gove

    Gove divine, all Goves excelling?
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    isamisam Posts: 40,930
    edited June 2013
    Mike Smithson doing a karaoke version of Gary Glitter's "I Love YouGov"?
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,312

    Or the Bananarama classic.
    Guilty of Gove in the first degree

    Plato said:

    AveryLP said:

    A musical divertimento from Merseyside:

    All you need is Gove, all you need is Gove,
    All you need is Gove, Gove, Gove is all you need.
    Gove, Gove, Gove, Gove, Gove, Gove, Gove, Gove, Gove.
    All you need is Gove, all you need is Gove,
    All you need is Gove, Gove, Gove is all you need.
    There's nothing you can know that isn't known.
    Nothing you can see that isn't shown.
    Nowhere you can be that isn't where you're meant to be.
    It's easy.
    All you need is Gove, all you need is Gove,
    All you need is Gove, Gove, Gove is all you need.
    All you need is Gove (all together now)
    All you need is Gove (everybody)
    All you need is Gove, Gove, Gove is all you need.

    Yes, Gove,
    Gove changes everything:
    Now I tremble
    At your name.
    Nothing in the
    World will ever
    Be the same.


    Set to work idle hands
    Shake these thoughts
    Had I planned them
    They never would be teasing me
    As viciously as these

    Is this Gove?
    Is this Gove?
    Gove lifts us up where we belong...
    Stop in the name of Gove
    before you break my heart!
    Pet Shop Boys:

    Gove comes quickly whatever you do
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    dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,288
    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/scottishnews/3177185/Alex-Salmond-is-the-Nat-in-the-hat.html

    Suit you, sir. All the ladies like a man in hat, sir. Suit you sir....
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    SchardsSchards Posts: 210
    Gove, Gove will tear us apart, again
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    SquareRootSquareRoot Posts: 7,095
    Gove changes everything ...

    (from Aspects of Love)
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,312

    Gove changes everything ...

    (from Aspects of Love)

    I already said that one :)
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    SchardsSchards Posts: 210
    We found Gove in a hopeless place
    We found Gove in a Hopeeless place
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    TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    dr_spyn said:

    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/scottishnews/3177185/Alex-Salmond-is-the-Nat-in-the-hat.html

    Suit you, sir. All the ladies like a man in hat, sir. Suit you sir....

    My favourite pic of Salmond - an advert for the sporting prowess of Scotland.

    http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/lZTrB-HRr8e/Ryder+Cup+Day+Two+Afternoon+Four+Balls/t5_zWDPRAxJ/Alex+Salmond
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,929
    I want to know what Gove is
    I want Yougov to show me
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    isamisam Posts: 40,930
    On Topic

    Tina Turner "What Gove's Got To Do With It"
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,477
    I see my attempts to improve PBers musical tastes has had a positive outcome.
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    JamesKellyJamesKelly Posts: 1,348
    Could it be that when I'm with you
    My fears all go away?
    Could it be that when I'm with you
    It's like the start of a brand new day?
    Or is it just that when I hold you
    I can't hold you enough?
    Or could it be that I'm in Gove?


    URGH.
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,477
    What time is Gove?
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    AveryLP said:


    No wonder applications for places at Free Schools far exceed availablity.

    You really shouldn't believe the 'spin' but should actually look at the reality.

    I gather DfE data indicates that there are 2.97 applications per place at free schools. Sounds oversubscribed, until you factor in standard application practice which involves parents selecting several schools on an application form - typically three, in London six. So 2.97 applications per place isn't really oversubscribed at all - for that to be the case you'd need at least 3 applications per place (6 in London).

    So in my local area (where you apply to three schools) the range of applications per place ranges from 2.4 up to about 5. But in reality only those above 3 are oversubscribed.

    So overall, as a class of school, there is no evidence to support a view that Free Schools are oversubscribed, if anything they are a bit below the line and are a touch undersubscribed compared to other schools.

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    dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,288
    looks as if Liverpool will be filing an unexceptional note in their accounts about an extraordinary loss.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22959336

    Carroll on way out with a £20m loss.
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    taffystaffys Posts: 9,753
    I want to know what Gove is
    I want Yougov to show me

    Top banana...
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    Sonia
    You'll never stop me from Goving you
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    stodgestodge Posts: 12,857

    We are in a first past the post system. Everything depends what happens in specific seats.

    National vote share is irrelevant in determinng the outcome. In CON-LAB battlegrounds the LDs will plummet in terms of votes. . In CON-LD battles the opposite will happen as we've seen in what polling of the marginals that there's been.



    Pulpstar said:

    Pulpstar said:



    Who is this polling bad for again ?

    Michael Gove as is patently obvious.



    Because he is causing Lib Demmers to switch to Labour ? I'd say thats bad for LD and good for Labour ! In a round about FPTP way its probably not great for CON, but the LDs will hopefully divorce and state their own education policies before the next election which should get back some of the switchers.

    Party A shouldn't really worry too much about people from party B switching to party C. Thats more party B's problem.
    If you state it is party A's issue then party B has lost their identity and is truly f***ed.
    Let's not forget Labour's vote share in 2010 was near its historic lows (only 1983 was worse). It's hard to see how they can poll any less. IF we assume that 1/3 of the 2010 LD vote is now firmly in the Labour camp minus the drift to UKIP from Labour and that explains the Labour figures in the mid-30s.

    The Conservative share of 36% was their highest since 1992 and clearly some of that has gone to UKIP.

    Simplistically, what will happen as the May 2015 date approaches? Historically, the "third party" or "protest" vote has returned to its original homes at the first hint of electoral gunfire
    but we don't know whether that will apply to UKIP. Perhaps its vote will be more resilient.

    The battle is between Conservatives and Labour as it always is - the LDs and UKIP are sideshows to the main feature. The battleground is or will be the 100-125 seats which were held by Labour from 1997 to 2010 and many of which went Conservative last time. Nowhere else matters that much by comparison.

    Labour need to win back 65-70 of these seats to win or be close to an overall majority - the Conservatives can't afford to lose more than 30 in my estimation. The decimation of the LD vote is or will be one factor in these seats, the UKIP vote will be another but the key question is whether the Conservatives can regain and retain their 2010 vote. Given the vagaries of the current system, they've little room for manoeuvre.
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    Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 60,987
    This thread must be the most silly for a while.

    Lopez selfishly beat Nieminen, so I'm afraid that tip was red.
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    SquareRootSquareRoot Posts: 7,095
    For cat lovers everywhere. Should this cat have been called "Gove"?
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2343736/Get-meow-t-Three-week-old-kitten-survives-1-000-mile-trip-inside-engine-car.html?ico=news^headlines

    "The cat has now been named 'Love'"
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    MikeSmithsonMikeSmithson Posts: 7,382
    Do you know why tube workers call the woman who makes the pre-recorded announcements Sonia?


    Because she getS ONYA nerves
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    isamisam Posts: 40,930
    You gotta be bad
    You gotta be bold
    You gotta be wiser
    You gotta be hard
    You gotta be tough
    You gotta be stronger
    You gotta be cool
    You gotta be calm
    You gotta stay together
    All I know all I know is Gove will save the day
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    MillsyMillsy Posts: 900
    The problem with the free schools is that at the moment it just looks like rich trendy people set them up in their spare time in preparation for little Daisy when she's old enough.

    Sad to say there probably needs to be a profit motive to really kick start the revolution, then there wouldn't be this problem with state funding from Gove's back pocket.
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    dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,288
    Goveinezza as sung by fascists everywhere.
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,477
    I guess I'm going to have to up my game on tonight's nighthawks.
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    The Moody Blues - Gove Now
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,929
    tim said:

    Pulpstar said:



    Who is this polling bad for again ?

    Michael Gove as is patently obvious.




    I think you'll find it's

    Michael Gove peace be upon him.


    No. It is

    Gove inda Jaya Jaya
    Gove pala Jaya Jaya
    Radha Ramana Hari
    Gove inda Jaya Jaya
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    taffystaffys Posts: 9,753
    I reckon Meatloaf had it right.

    I would do anything for Gove,
    But I won't do THAT...
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    MikeSmithsonMikeSmithson Posts: 7,382
    New post
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,312
    edited June 2013

    What time is Gove?

    Specially for my fellow Depeche fans:

    Strange Gove
    Strange highs and strange lows
    Strange Gove
    That's how my Gove goes
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    Deadringer for Gove
    taffys said:

    I reckon Meatloaf had it right.

    I would do anything for Gove,
    But I won't do THAT...

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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,929
    For next thread (Can't post there)

    Boris is a ridiculous bet. Yvette Cooper is far more likely to be next PM over Boris.

    Reasoning: If Dave stays PM the 2015 GE he won't be going anywhere. Ed will be replaced, most likely by Yvette Cooper. I think their odds are the wrong way round.

    Will be Ed though.
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