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  • SMukeshSMukesh Posts: 1,759
    chestnut said:

    Tax cuts for millionaires...

    Not in the list.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,533
    I met a man called Gareth on Hampstead Heath last week.....

    ???
  • StereotomyStereotomy Posts: 4,092
    SMukesh said:

    The catchwords are:

    People say to me.
    long term economic plan.
    fully costed
    hard choices.
    hard working families.

    Is there a bonus if he just says that entire block as one quote?
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 43,503
    Alistair said:

    Scott_P said:

    Nicola Sturgeon has insisted that Alex Salmond is not “calling the shots” in the SNP as she faced unprecedented mockery at Holyrood over her predecessor portraying himself as kingmaker after the general election.

    For the second day running the First Minister was forced to assert that she, and not her mentor, is leading the Nationalists and overseeing the party’s election strategy.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/general-election-2015/11497686/Nicola-Sturgeon-mocked-as-she-insists-Alex-Salmond-is-not-in-charge.html
    Bear defecates in wood. Pope keen on Catholicism.

    Scott really is a plank, amazing how pathetic , stupid and childish these Tories are. Is it any wonder they are moribund in Scotland.
  • SimonStClareSimonStClare Posts: 7,976
    edited March 2015
    kle4 said:

    SKY getting very excited about 9pm but is anyone out there actually the slightest bit bothered? I'll be watching Death in Paradise with Ben Miller.

    Looking at the BBC website you wouldn't even know it was on.
    Curious given all the media hullabaloo it took to get any format agreed and the ramping up that occurred. Downplaying so their events take more prominence?
    Does seem odd for Aunty to snub the others - I thought BBCITVSKY were all in it together. :)
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,533
    I am fairly certain one of them will have some sort of "gimmick" to try and connect with the audience in the studio and at home.
  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 9,928

    I don't agree with OGH. Bercow now knows roughly the HoC wants rid of him. If he had any self respect he would intimate he is standing down. The Tories should now select an official Conservative candidate for Buckingham to make the position clear.

    SKY getting very excited about 9pm but is anyone out there actually the slightest bit bothered? I'll be watching Death in Paradise with Ben Miller.

    For all I am not a great fan of Bercow (not for any party reasons or any perceived bias but simply because I think he is a bit full of himself) surely the vote today showed that actually the HoC does NOT want to get rid of him.

    If the only way the Tories were ever going to win this vote was by ambushing the House to get it through then it strikes me that they knew in a straight vote tha majority would support the Speaker. Which by its very definition means the House wants him to stay.
    Exactly. One can't een call today's events a genuine vote of confidence in the speaker. But if the Tories can't get him when the whole procedure is rigged it suggests he's okay. Amazing the Cameron faithful are out in full on here trying to say Bercow has lost his authority. It's Cameron who couldn't score when the opposition wasn't even on the pitch and the real message from the vote is his party management problem. Plenty of Tory backbenchers probably don't want to see the back of Bercow. No wonder Cameron hates him so much.
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    Roger said:

    OT Yemen. People struggle to understand who are the goodies and who are the baddies in that area of the world. It's further confused by a feeling in the West that whoever the Americans are supporting are the goodies.

    If you speak to anyone in the region without an axe to grind they'll tell you the rule of thumb is whoever the Saudi's are supporting are the baddies. As they and the Americans are like Siamese twins it's confusing

    I must admit to missing the hordes of protestors who are outraged by bombing of civilians.

    It seems to be fine provided it is other muslims doing the bombing, rather than us, the yanks or the Israelis.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 19,981
    Frank

    "Cameron over-estimated the dislike of Bercow on his backbenches and he paid for it."

    I think it's worse than that. I think he's finally showing his inner Thatcher which non Tories have known would eventually show itself.

    It's a pretty gruesome sight.

  • MP_SEMP_SE Posts: 3,642
    Roger said:

    OT Yemen. People struggle to understand who are the goodies and who are the baddies in that area of the world. It's further confused by a feeling in the West that whoever the Americans are supporting are the goodies.

    If you speak to anyone in the region without an axe to grind they'll tell you the rule of thumb is whoever the Saudi's are supporting are the baddies. As they and the Americans are like Siamese twins it's confusing

    Peter Bone is that you?
  • SimonStClareSimonStClare Posts: 7,976

    I am fairly certain one of them will have some sort of "gimmick" to try and connect with the audience in the studio and at home.


    Rubik's Cube? :)
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    malcolmg said:

    Scott really is a plank

    Is that better or worse than a turnip?

    Amazing how touchy the Nats are about Eck's freelance tour. Poor Nicola, having to remind people every day she is meant to be in charge.
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    Scott_P said:

    malcolmg said:

    Scott really is a plank

    Is that better or worse than a turnip?

    Amazing how touchy the Nats are about Eck's freelance tour. Poor Nicola, having to remind people every day she is meant to be in charge.
    I suppose its because the Scottish people voted to keep Holyrood as second fiddle to Westminster.

  • SMukeshSMukesh Posts: 1,759

    SMukesh said:

    The catchwords are:

    People say to me.
    long term economic plan.
    fully costed
    hard choices.
    hard working families.

    Is there a bonus if he just says that entire block as one quote?
    You can try placing a series bet.Might be around 60/1
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,533
    edited March 2015
    I just caught the Newsnight cozy chat, I mean interview, with Yentob about Clarkson dismisal. The LOL moment was when Yentob was asked the BBC output too metropolitan, too elitist and he said...

    'There are quite a lot of programmes that reach out to audiences who are C2, Ds, who aren't the metropolitan elite."

    And there we have it in a nutshell....sounding about as in touch with the working man, as Ress-Mogg would on a visit to a working mens club in South Shields.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453

    Ress-Mogg would on a visit to a working mens club in South Shields.

    Now there's a TV programme I would watch
  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 9,928
    Roger said:

    Frank

    "Cameron over-estimated the dislike of Bercow on his backbenches and he paid for it."

    I think it's worse than that. I think he's finally showing his inner Thatcher which non Tories have known would eventually show itself.

    It's a pretty gruesome sight.

    I'm no fan of Thatcher and she may have been suspicious about those who weren't considered 'one of us' but I doubt she'd show such petty vindictiveness towards the Speaker. The thing is Cameron is much less agreeable and more spiteful than the public realise. Perhaps there's no much that can be done about that. I'd like to have seen a TV camera on his face when the vote came in.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,533
    Scott_P said:

    Ress-Mogg would on a visit to a working mens club in South Shields.

    Now there's a TV programme I would watch
    The should bring back "Faking It"...Get Rees-Mogg to work the door.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 19,981
    Malc

    "Scott really is a plank, amazing how pathetic , stupid and childish these Tories are. Is it any wonder they are moribund in Scotland."

    You try working 16 hours a day 7 days a week looking for tweets articles and quotes making the Tories look good. Most people would have given it up as an impossible job after 3 minutes
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    Intellectual confidence...

    @SamCoatesTimes: Sky/C4N debate Fact: Ed Miliband was invited - and declined - the opportunity to visit the debate set today. Cameron visited first thing...
  • CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 25,326
    Roger said:

    OT Yemen. People struggle to understand who are the goodies and who are the baddies in that area of the world. It's further confused by a feeling in the West that whoever the Americans are supporting are the goodies.

    If you speak to anyone in the region without an axe to grind they'll tell you the rule of thumb is whoever the Saudi's are supporting are the baddies. As they and the Americans are like Siamese twins it's confusing

    There aren't any goodies, though, are there? Just different varieties of baddies, all more gruesome than the other.

    The Saudis are definitely baddies. Why we insist on calling them allies rather than supping with them with a long spoon beats me.

  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,533
    Scott_P said:

    Intellectual confidence...

    @SamCoatesTimes: Sky/C4N debate Fact: Ed Miliband was invited - and declined - the opportunity to visit the debate set today. Cameron visited first thing...

    Maybe he just got lost on the way?
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548

    Scott_P said:

    Ress-Mogg would on a visit to a working mens club in South Shields.

    Now there's a TV programme I would watch
    The should bring back "Faking It"...Get Rees-Mogg to work the door.
    Perhaps Jacob could make a guest appearance on the Geordie Shore?
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,533

    Scott_P said:

    Ress-Mogg would on a visit to a working mens club in South Shields.

    Now there's a TV programme I would watch
    The should bring back "Faking It"...Get Rees-Mogg to work the door.
    Perhaps Jacob could make a guest appearance on the Geordie Shore?
    LOL...cousin Moggie from down south.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 43,378

    Scott_P said:

    malcolmg said:

    Scott really is a plank

    Is that better or worse than a turnip?

    Amazing how touchy the Nats are about Eck's freelance tour. Poor Nicola, having to remind people every day she is meant to be in charge.
    I suppose its because the Scottish people voted to keep Holyrood as second fiddle to Westminster.

    Actually, what is so interesting is that the Scots seem increasingly to be regarding Westminster as second fiddle to Holyrood: at least in the sense that the Westminster VIs have shifted so much to Holyrood 2010 (if the polls are right).

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  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    This is the problem with the debates...

    The broadcasters want to fill airtime, so the man from Sky doorsteps the ex-BBc man on Ch4, live in the spin room in front of a giant screen showing the the live shot from the other angle at the same time.

    @Gregstweet: Just arrived at the #BattleForNumber10 debate. @adamboultonSKY and @MichaelLCrick having a chat in the spin room. http://t.co/NCpLuYGvr1

    TV eats itself, over and over again

    @nedsimons: Crick telling Boulton the whole thing is crap will be hard to top. https://t.co/I8iuw8o4r5
  • RogerRoger Posts: 19,981
    Anyone know why the Lib Dems involved themselves in Cameron's grubby shenanigans? Apart from being uncharacteristically unpleasant it's also politically inept
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    Gripping coverage of Leicester building up to the great (non) debate on Channel 4.

    It is hard to cope with all the excitement...
  • tysontyson Posts: 6,117
    Roger said:

    Frank

    "Cameron over-estimated the dislike of Bercow on his backbenches and he paid for it."

    I think it's worse than that. I think he's finally showing his inner Thatcher which non Tories have known would eventually show itself.

    It's a pretty gruesome sight.

    Roger- you can take the guy away from the Bullingdon club, but you cannot take the Bullingdon away from the guy.

    It is actually quite fun watching the ham fisted Cameron lurching from one bad decision to another, at one point bullying the media on the debates, then bullying Clegg's appearance, then siding with his arch bully and friend, Clarkson, and latterly trying to bully the Commons into ousting Bercow.

    Cameron has sunk to such pathetic lows, it is really quite unworthy to mention him alongside Thatcher who would never behaved in this blokish, elitist, pathetic fashion.

    Cameron is a spoilt prat and stupid- he has lost all sense of judgement in these last weeks, presumably because he is terrified at losing. Cameron is making very bad choices.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 19,981
    Fox

    "Gripping coverage of Leicester"

    Any reason why HRH isn't there? If people are coming from all over the world wouldn't you expect his great(x50)granddaughter to show an interest?
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    Roger said:

    Fox

    "Gripping coverage of Leicester"

    Any reason why HRH isn't there? If people are coming from all over the world wouldn't you expect his great(x50)granddaughter to show an interest?

    The Countess of Wessex represented the Royal Family.
  • TheWatcherTheWatcher Posts: 5,262
    edited March 2015

    Roger said:

    Frank

    "Cameron over-estimated the dislike of Bercow on his backbenches and he paid for it."

    I think it's worse than that. I think he's finally showing his inner Thatcher which non Tories have known would eventually show itself.

    It's a pretty gruesome sight.

    I'm no fan of Thatcher and she may have been suspicious about those who weren't considered 'one of us' but I doubt she'd show such petty vindictiveness towards the Speaker. The thing is Cameron is much less agreeable and more spiteful than the public realise. Perhaps there's no much that can be done about that. I'd like to have seen a TV camera on his face when the vote came in.
    Spiteful? That would be slashing the PMs pay in your last weeks in the post, just to get one over on your successor.

    Exactly what the loathesome creature Brown did. Petty, bitter little man.
  • tysontyson Posts: 6,117
    Roger said:

    Anyone know why the Lib Dems involved themselves in Cameron's grubby shenanigans? Apart from being uncharacteristically unpleasant it's also politically inept

    Roger said:

    Anyone know why the Lib Dems involved themselves in Cameron's grubby shenanigans? Apart from being uncharacteristically unpleasant it's also politically inept

    Roger- for the same reasons why they didn't object to Clegg not attending the debate and for that matter for slavishly following the Tories in government- this was not a coalition, it was a Tory Govt with the LD's licking their boots, and happy to eat crumbs. Student fees, ha, ha. The LD's have behaved as the fag to the Eton prefects, and they have taken it. And in doing so they have shown themselves to be so politically inept that they are likely to lose more than 60% of their vote at the GE. No one could make up how pathetic and politically inept the LD's are.

    That said I am probably going to have vote for them..
  • RogerRoger Posts: 19,981
    Tyson

    "Cameron is a spoilt prat and stupid- he has lost all sense of judgement in these last weeks,"

    I hope the country is noticing. We've all now got a clue what a second term would look like. Even Thatcher didn't go COMPLETELY barking during the first five years.

    A few months ago I was pretty relaxed about who won or lost. I wasn't over keen on any of them. Now I see a Cameron victory as a catastrophe.
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    Scott_P said:

    malcolmg said:

    Scott really is a plank

    Is that better or worse than a turnip?

    Amazing how touchy the Nats are about Eck's freelance tour. Poor Nicola, having to remind people every day she is meant to be in charge.
    Is it really being touchy pointing out the easy to disprove lies in the articles you've posted?
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