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edited March 2015 in General

imagepoliticalbetting.com » Blog Archive » The Tories close the gap in Survation-Mirror poll to just 1%

Two things stand out with the Survation-Mirror poll that’s just been released. Firstly the Tories have almost closed the gap with a pollster that had generally been giving it lower shares.

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  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,963
    edited March 2015
    Zayn has left one direction.

    I is heart broken and Ed's disaster over Vat and NI won't be on tomorrow's Front Pages
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,133
    Survation tables... must have Survation tables...
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,133

    Zayn has left one direction.

    Not a patch on Depeche Mode or any other 1980s synthpop band!
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @LucyH_J: Was gonna say something about Zayn Malik joining Top Gear but only being able to drive in One Direction but then... OH GOD
  • steve_garnersteve_garner Posts: 1,019
    OGH hedges his bets by having a thread that's not doom and gloom for the Tories.
  • SlackbladderSlackbladder Posts: 9,779
    Scott_P said:

    @jimwaterson: (For the baffled Westminster people asking, yes Zayn is leaving One Direction. No, your policy speech is not getting in the tabs tomorrow.)

    This is like the ultimate day to bury bad news... forget 9/11 (in bad taste I know)...
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,133
    Survation's other poll in the last week was for the Mail on Sunday

    Lab 34
    Con 30
    UKIP 17
    LD 10
    Grn 3
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633

    Survation tables... must have Survation tables...

    Another Con lead - that should jerk your elbow.
  • SlackbladderSlackbladder Posts: 9,779
    Someone needs to set up some helplines for teenager girls and middle aged guys pronto.
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633

    Scott_P said:

    @jimwaterson: (For the baffled Westminster people asking, yes Zayn is leaving One Direction. No, your policy speech is not getting in the tabs tomorrow.)

    This is like the ultimate day to bury bad news... forget 9/11 (in bad taste I know)...

    Foxy Knox verdict still to come - its bumper Wednesday.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453

    Scott_P said:

    @jimwaterson: (For the baffled Westminster people asking, yes Zayn is leaving One Direction. No, your policy speech is not getting in the tabs tomorrow.)

    This is like the ultimate day to bury bad news...

    If only he had waited 1 day, he could have knocked "the debate" off too
  • i say, I've now watched PMQs.

    It was like watching Spurs fail to turn up against Man U....
  • welshowlwelshowl Posts: 4,464

    Zayn has left one direction.

    I is heart broken and Ed's disaster over Vat and NI won't be on tomorrow's Front Pages

    No point dissolving Parliament really, "the meeja" won't be interested in an election, only Zayn.

    I trust the Queen is being kept informed of events and the armed forces are on alert for possible foreign intervention.
  • welshowlwelshowl Posts: 4,464
    Scott_P said:

    Scott_P said:

    @jimwaterson: (For the baffled Westminster people asking, yes Zayn is leaving One Direction. No, your policy speech is not getting in the tabs tomorrow.)

    This is like the ultimate day to bury bad news...

    If only he had waited 1 day, he could have knocked "the debate" off too
    Surely this'll last a week, if not till May.
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    'Secondly, and perhaps not unrelated, UKIP is down to...'
  • Survation also ask a secondary voting intention question: “The General Election is on 7 May 2015. Thinking specifically about your constituency and the parties and candidates likely to be in contention, how do you think you will vote on 7 May” Results to that question prompt are (with change in brackets since 24th February 2015):

    LAB candidate 32% (-1); CON candidate 32% (+3); UKIP candidate 17% (-2); LD candidate 9% (-1); SNP candidate 5% (NC); GRE candidate 4% (+1); another candidate 1% (+1)
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,514
    edited March 2015
    Wand Erection member leaving (and possible breakup) and Top Gear gang breaking up...forget trying to get anything else in the news.
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 43,500
    FPT:
    PeterC said:

    » show previous quotes
    Absolutely. If parliament is seriously deadlocked then Lab/Con would have to sink their differences in one guise or another so that Salmond is given no opportunity to work his mischief. There will be enough Labour MPs who will not vote themselves into the trap of becoming dependent on the SNP.

    They don't like the thought of democracy in action do they, cannot have those uppity Scots being able to influence anything , they should know their place.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,411
    TGOHF said:

    Scott_P said:

    @jimwaterson: (For the baffled Westminster people asking, yes Zayn is leaving One Direction. No, your policy speech is not getting in the tabs tomorrow.)

    This is like the ultimate day to bury bad news... forget 9/11 (in bad taste I know)...

    Foxy Knox verdict still to come - its bumper Wednesday.
    Public and press alike can't get enough of that tawdry tale.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,133
    TGOHF said:

    Survation tables... must have Survation tables...

    Another Con lead - that should jerk your elbow.
    But I need those tables to update the sample totals!
  • MikeSmithsonMikeSmithson Posts: 7,382
    edited March 2015

    OGH hedges his bets by having a thread that's not doom and gloom for the Tories.

    Listen sunshine. I report the numbers as they come and if you don't like it then you don't have to be come here.


  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,411

    Survation also ask a secondary voting intention question: “The General Election is on 7 May 2015. Thinking specifically about your constituency and the parties and candidates likely to be in contention, how do you think you will vote on 7 May” Results to that question prompt are (with change in brackets since 24th February 2015):

    LAB candidate 32% (-1); CON candidate 32% (+3); UKIP candidate 17% (-2); LD candidate 9% (-1); SNP candidate 5% (NC); GRE candidate 4% (+1); another candidate 1% (+1)

    Seeing that 4 turn to 5% for the Nats is nice.
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    isam said:

    'Secondly, and perhaps not unrelated, UKIP is down to...'

    Peak kipper gags used to be funny - when there was a chance that they would be relevant in the seat count arithmetic..
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,411
    malcolmg said:

    FPT:
    PeterC said:

    » show previous quotes
    Absolutely. If parliament is seriously deadlocked then Lab/Con would have to sink their differences in one guise or another so that Salmond is given no opportunity to work his mischief. There will be enough Labour MPs who will not vote themselves into the trap of becoming dependent on the SNP.

    They don't like the thought of democracy in action do they, cannot have those uppity Scots being able to influence anything , they should know their place.

    Horrifying

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7EOOOuYIoI
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,411
    edited March 2015
    TGOHF said:

    isam said:

    'Secondly, and perhaps not unrelated, UKIP is down to...'

    Peak kipper gags used to be funny - when there was a chance that they would be relevant in the seat count arithmetic..
    UKIP will be VERY relevant in the seat count arithmetic.

    Going to be more than one "Wells" this time round...
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    edited March 2015

    Wand Erection member leaving (and possible breakup) and Top Gear gang breaking up...forget trying to get anything else in the news.

    This is getting silly.
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/nancy-cameron-david-camerons-daughter-goes-on-hunger-strike-until-jeremy-clarkson-is-reinstated-on-top-gear-10129318.html

    The PM's daughter on hunger strike over Top Gear (for 5 minutes).

  • TGOHF said:

    Survation tables... must have Survation tables...

    Another Con lead - that should jerk your elbow.
    But I need those tables to update the sample totals!
    Sunil, Survation data tables here

    http://survation.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Full-Mirror-March-Tables.pdf
  • steve_garnersteve_garner Posts: 1,019

    OGH hedges his bets by having a thread that's not doom and gloom for the Tories.

    Listen sunshine. I report the numbers as they come and if you don't like it then you don't have to be come here.


    Hello Mike. I've no problem with the accuracy of your reporting of the numbers. I can't help feeling that your interpretation of them is sometimes a little unbalanced. It's clear I'm far from being the only one with that view. However, it's your site and great fun too.
  • DairDair Posts: 6,108
    BBC News Presenter "The BBC is a broad church and can represent a wide range of views".
    Guido - "No-one believes that."
  • JEOJEO Posts: 3,656

    Someone needs to set up some helplines for teenager girls and middle aged guys pronto.

    Given recent revelations, I'm not sure how comfortable I would be for any government initiative involving middle aged guys and teenager girls.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 37,538
    Compared to the last Survation poll, I think this is Con +2%, Lab -1%, UKIP +1%, Lib Dem -2%
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    TGOHF said:

    isam said:

    'Secondly, and perhaps not unrelated, UKIP is down to...'

    Peak kipper gags used to be funny - when there was a chance that they would be relevant in the seat count arithmetic..
    Two errors there
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,411

    TGOHF said:

    Survation tables... must have Survation tables...

    Another Con lead - that should jerk your elbow.
    But I need those tables to update the sample totals!
    Sunil, Survation data tables here

    http://survation.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Full-Mirror-March-Tables.pdf
    Look at the region by region VI split on the 10 out of 10.
  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    Totally OT - I watched The Valley of Gwangi on BBC2 last Saturday morning. Where has the art of trick riding gone? I loved Westerns and all that went along with it.

    The stop-motion of TRex and a tyrannosaurus are just epically good. From 1969. The dinosaur fight.https://youtube.com/watch?v=fIDJ-Y-_Dxs
  • timmotimmo Posts: 1,469
    This Survation looks a stinker for the LDs.
    OGH has always pointed to the uptick that the LDs get when their candidate is prompted..that is falling back with the return of the 2 party battle.
    Doubt OGH will acknowledge this though.
  • JonnyJimmyJonnyJimmy Posts: 2,548
    edited March 2015
    Just seen the Lab line that the VAT rise has cost the average family £1800 over the last four years.

    The rise was 2.5% (on 117.5%) so for it to have cost £1800, one would have had to spend (117.5/2.5)*1800/4 = £21,150 each year on VATable items.

    Some average family there...

  • DairDair Posts: 6,108
    Pulpstar said:

    Survation also ask a secondary voting intention question: “The General Election is on 7 May 2015. Thinking specifically about your constituency and the parties and candidates likely to be in contention, how do you think you will vote on 7 May” Results to that question prompt are (with change in brackets since 24th February 2015):

    LAB candidate 32% (-1); CON candidate 32% (+3); UKIP candidate 17% (-2); LD candidate 9% (-1); SNP candidate 5% (NC); GRE candidate 4% (+1); another candidate 1% (+1)

    Seeing that 4 turn to 5% for the Nats is nice.
    The Unionist dream of any tactical voting working against the SNP is one of the most bizarre hopes they cling on to.

    Tactical voting could well dictate the result of the three border seats and maybe a couple of Edinburgh seats. All in favour of the SNP.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,411
    edited March 2015
    timmo said:

    This Survation looks a stinker for the LDs.
    OGH has always pointed to the uptick that the LDs get when their candidate is prompted..that is falling back with the return of the 2 party battle.
    Doubt OGH will acknowledge this though.

    I thought it looked perfectly normal for the Lib Dems tbh - they aren't being beaten by the Nats or Greens in this poll so quite good actually.

    And then you realise that 8% represents a decent poll for them. Yes they are in trouble !
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    James Delingpole (@JamesDelingpole)
    25/03/2015 14:40
    One of Farage's bully mob was the winner of a 2012 Diversity Award breitbart.com/london/2015/03…
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    edited March 2015
    Dair said:

    BBC News Presenter "The BBC is a broad church and can represent a wide range of views".
    Guido - "No-one believes that."

    Of course they are a broad church, as long as it is a quiz show.

    But good news everyone, the X-Files is back, so that's something to replace Top Gear for a while.
    http://www.ew.com/article/2015/03/24/x-files-return
  • TheWatcherTheWatcher Posts: 5,262

    Just seen the Lab line that the VAT rise has cost the average family £1800 over the last four years.

    The rise was 2.5% (on 117.5%) so for it to have cost £1800, one would have had to spend (117.5/2.5)*1800/4 = £21,150 each year on VATable items.

    Some average family there...

    New kitchens aren't cheap, particularly when you're refitting at least two.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,514
    edited March 2015

    Just seen the Lab line that the VAT rise has cost the average family £1800 over the last four years.

    The rise was 2.5% (on 117.5%) so for it to have cost £1800, one would have had to spend (117.5/2.5)*1800/4 = £21,150 each year on VATable items.

    Some average family there...

    Labour tried this before and the sums didn't add up in a similar way then...spending £20k a year on VATable items might be normal for Ed Miliband, but not for most people.

    Wee Dougie got in a total mess over this poster. Showing a load of non-VATable items and the sums not adding up.

    https://fullfact.org/economy/labour_election_poster_vat_tax-32246
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,411
    Dair said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Survation also ask a secondary voting intention question: “The General Election is on 7 May 2015. Thinking specifically about your constituency and the parties and candidates likely to be in contention, how do you think you will vote on 7 May” Results to that question prompt are (with change in brackets since 24th February 2015):

    LAB candidate 32% (-1); CON candidate 32% (+3); UKIP candidate 17% (-2); LD candidate 9% (-1); SNP candidate 5% (NC); GRE candidate 4% (+1); another candidate 1% (+1)

    Seeing that 4 turn to 5% for the Nats is nice.
    The Unionist dream of any tactical voting working against the SNP is one of the most bizarre hopes they cling on to.

    Tactical voting could well dictate the result of the three border seats and maybe a couple of Edinburgh seats. All in favour of the SNP.
    I'm hopeful of the Greens not putting in too much effort where it could cost SNP the seat.
  • MarkSeniorMarkSenior Posts: 4,699

    TGOHF said:

    Survation tables... must have Survation tables...

    Another Con lead - that should jerk your elbow.
    But I need those tables to update the sample totals!
    Sunil, Survation data tables here

    http://survation.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Full-Mirror-March-Tables.pdf
    For the lovers of Scottish sub samples - Page 12

    Con 18.9 %
    Lab 13.3 %
    LD. 15.2 %
    SNP 47.4 %

    Hmmm dustbin time methinks
  • dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,300
    Paul Waugh ‏@paulwaugh 2m2 minutes ago
    .@GuidoFawkes rightly points out Mark Thompson bit a colleague + ended up becoming BBC DG. That too was 'unprovoked' http://www.standard.co.uk/news/the-day-i-was-bitten-by-bbc-boss-7086208.html

  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    edited March 2015
    Own up, which one of you left wing maniacs pretending to be Tories on here is Noel Fielding?

    James Delingpole (@JamesDelingpole)
    25/03/2015 15:59
    "Stab Nigel Farage" says Noel Fielding. He's SUCH a card! breitbart.com/london/2015/03…

  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,937

    TGOHF said:

    Survation tables... must have Survation tables...

    Another Con lead - that should jerk your elbow.
    But I need those tables to update the sample totals!
    Sunil, Survation data tables here

    http://survation.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Full-Mirror-March-Tables.pdf
    For the lovers of Scottish sub samples - Page 12

    Con 18.9 %
    Lab 13.3 %
    LD. 15.2 %
    SNP 47.4 %

    Hmmm dustbin time methinks
    Yeah. LibDems in Scotland on 15.2%. Clearly cuckoo.....
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    It will be Boris

    Jason Beattie (@JBeattieMirror)
    25/03/2015 16:06
    Poll @DailyMirror by @Survation on who should be next Tory leader: Boris Johnson 36%, Osborne 14%, May 13.5% and Javid 5.5%
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,514
    edited March 2015
    dr_spyn said:

    Paul Waugh ‏@paulwaugh 2m2 minutes ago
    .@GuidoFawkes rightly points out Mark Thompson bit a colleague + ended up becoming BBC DG. That too was 'unprovoked' http://www.standard.co.uk/news/the-day-i-was-bitten-by-bbc-boss-7086208.html

    Also...the guy who got assaulted got punished by being sent to a dangerous country. You couldn't make it up. Oh wait, how many senior BBC executives got the sack over Jimmy Savile and other scandals...where as the people trying to expose it, got the heave ho.

    Now Mark about Jimmy Savile....
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    dr_spyn said:

    Paul Waugh ‏@paulwaugh 2m2 minutes ago
    .@GuidoFawkes rightly points out Mark Thompson bit a colleague + ended up becoming BBC DG. That too was 'unprovoked' http://www.standard.co.uk/news/the-day-i-was-bitten-by-bbc-boss-7086208.html

    but did he do it in ethnically neutral, eco-sustainable, female friendly, liberal, non-gender-stereotypical manner?
  • dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,300
    edited March 2015

    dr_spyn said:

    Paul Waugh ‏@paulwaugh 2m2 minutes ago
    .@GuidoFawkes rightly points out Mark Thompson bit a colleague + ended up becoming BBC DG. That too was 'unprovoked' http://www.standard.co.uk/news/the-day-i-was-bitten-by-bbc-boss-7086208.html

    Now Mark about Jimmy Savile....

    Also...the guy who got assaulted got punished by being sent to a dangerous country. You couldn't make it up.
    Forgive my cynicism - but this made me wonder - how long has the BBC been sitting on this story.

    "Dominic Casciani ‏@BBCDomC 6m6 minutes ago
    MPs 'monitored by Scotland Yard during 1990s' - full story of latest claims about undercover policing: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-32044580 …"

    Timing is perfect, try and throw mud, classic look hamster, werewolf stuff. Are the BBC in the shit again?
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,411

    TGOHF said:

    Survation tables... must have Survation tables...

    Another Con lead - that should jerk your elbow.
    But I need those tables to update the sample totals!
    Sunil, Survation data tables here

    http://survation.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Full-Mirror-March-Tables.pdf
    For the lovers of Scottish sub samples - Page 12

    Con 18.9 %
    Lab 13.3 %
    LD. 15.2 %
    SNP 47.4 %

    Hmmm dustbin time methinks
    Yeah. LibDems in Scotland on 15.2%. Clearly cuckoo.....
    The Lib-Lab split is clearly wrong indeed. Must have been phoning Highlands and islands.
  • JEOJEO Posts: 3,656
    dr_spyn said:

    Paul Waugh ‏@paulwaugh 2m2 minutes ago
    .@GuidoFawkes rightly points out Mark Thompson bit a colleague + ended up becoming BBC DG. That too was 'unprovoked' http://www.standard.co.uk/news/the-day-i-was-bitten-by-bbc-boss-7086208.html

    That's incredible. The BBC have no leg to stand on for kicking out Clarkson on a punch but promoting someone after a bite. A bite is a lot worse.
  • dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,300
    JEO said:

    dr_spyn said:

    Paul Waugh ‏@paulwaugh 2m2 minutes ago
    .@GuidoFawkes rightly points out Mark Thompson bit a colleague + ended up becoming BBC DG. That too was 'unprovoked' http://www.standard.co.uk/news/the-day-i-was-bitten-by-bbc-boss-7086208.html

    That's incredible. The BBC have no leg to stand on for kicking out Clarkson on a punch but promoting someone after a bite. A bite is a lot worse.
    Would need trip to A and E for a jab afterwards?

  • RogerRoger Posts: 19,975
    edited March 2015
    Everyone seems to be waiting uneasily for the Tories to pull ahead. The antidote to that slightly depressing thought is Nick P. Who better to judge the state of play than Nick an ex and future MP who's been there and done it....

    So gird your loins lefties. In Nick We Trust.

  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    I haven't bitten someone since I was 4yrs old!
    JEO said:

    dr_spyn said:

    Paul Waugh ‏@paulwaugh 2m2 minutes ago
    .@GuidoFawkes rightly points out Mark Thompson bit a colleague + ended up becoming BBC DG. That too was 'unprovoked' http://www.standard.co.uk/news/the-day-i-was-bitten-by-bbc-boss-7086208.html

    That's incredible. The BBC have no leg to stand on for kicking out Clarkson on a punch but promoting someone after a bite. A bite is a lot worse.
  • dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,300
    @Roger is your Scottish Power ad on Youtube?
  • TheWatcherTheWatcher Posts: 5,262
    edited March 2015
    dr_spyn said:

    JEO said:

    dr_spyn said:

    Paul Waugh ‏@paulwaugh 2m2 minutes ago
    .@GuidoFawkes rightly points out Mark Thompson bit a colleague + ended up becoming BBC DG. That too was 'unprovoked' http://www.standard.co.uk/news/the-day-i-was-bitten-by-bbc-boss-7086208.html

    That's incredible. The BBC have no leg to stand on for kicking out Clarkson on a punch but promoting someone after a bite. A bite is a lot worse.
    Would need trip to A and E for a jab afterwards?

    Saville probably had a nurse locked up in his camper van in the car park at TVC who could have dressed the wound.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,411
    Roger said:

    Everyone seems to be waiting uneasily for the Tories to pull ahead. The antidote to that slightly depressing thought is Nick P. Who better to judge the state of play than Nick an ex and future MP who's been there and done it....

    So gird your loins lefties. In Nick We Trust.

    Tories need to be quite a way ahead before Nick doesn't get back in. With his AB cohort of determined 2010 Lib Dems he is well on his way.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,937
    So when it is rounded as usual, Lab and Con are level.....
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,963
    F1: Renault accuse Adrian Newey of lying:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/32050898

    Red Bull's quite good at influencing people, but still struggling at making friends.
  • OblitusSumMeOblitusSumMe Posts: 9,143
    That can't have been longer ago than 1988 though, surely?
    Plato said:

    I haven't bitten someone since I was 4yrs old!

    JEO said:

    dr_spyn said:

    Paul Waugh ‏@paulwaugh 2m2 minutes ago
    .@GuidoFawkes rightly points out Mark Thompson bit a colleague + ended up becoming BBC DG. That too was 'unprovoked' http://www.standard.co.uk/news/the-day-i-was-bitten-by-bbc-boss-7086208.html

    That's incredible. The BBC have no leg to stand on for kicking out Clarkson on a punch but promoting someone after a bite. A bite is a lot worse.
  • MikeSmithsonMikeSmithson Posts: 7,382

    So when it is rounded as usual, Lab and Con are level.....
    Correct.

    Given the tightness of the race I do like see shares down to a decimal point. Often rounding can give distorted view.

  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    LOL Only in leap years.

    That can't have been longer ago than 1988 though, surely?

    Plato said:

    I haven't bitten someone since I was 4yrs old!

    JEO said:

    dr_spyn said:

    Paul Waugh ‏@paulwaugh 2m2 minutes ago
    .@GuidoFawkes rightly points out Mark Thompson bit a colleague + ended up becoming BBC DG. That too was 'unprovoked' http://www.standard.co.uk/news/the-day-i-was-bitten-by-bbc-boss-7086208.html

    That's incredible. The BBC have no leg to stand on for kicking out Clarkson on a punch but promoting someone after a bite. A bite is a lot worse.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,411

    So when it is rounded as usual, Lab and Con are level.....
    It's tighter than a duck's arse at the moment.
  • roserees64roserees64 Posts: 251
    Yesterday Cameron was savaged by pensioners, today Bullingdon man was in full braying mode helped by a negligent speaker and cohorts of Tory patsies. However everyone is entitled to a swansong bye bye Cameron, going, going, soon to be gone.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @CCHQPress: .@Ed_Miliband's only road to power is a SNP deal-Alex Salmond's named his price & taxpayers will foot the bill #chaos http://t.co/lgM0FEMfpG
  • MikeSmithsonMikeSmithson Posts: 7,382
    edited March 2015
    Pulpstar said:

    Roger said:

    Everyone seems to be waiting uneasily for the Tories to pull ahead. The antidote to that slightly depressing thought is Nick P. Who better to judge the state of play than Nick an ex and future MP who's been there and done it....

    So gird your loins lefties. In Nick We Trust.

    Tories need to be quite a way ahead before Nick doesn't get back in. With his AB cohort of determined 2010 Lib Dems he is well on his way.
    I'm not totally convinced. Anna Soubry is quite appealing and I'd like to see her remain as an MP. Thankfully I don't vote in Broxtowe so I don't have to make that choice.

  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    Roger said:

    Everyone seems to be waiting uneasily for the Tories to pull ahead. The antidote to that slightly depressing thought is Nick P. Who better to judge the state of play than Nick an ex and future MP who's been there and done it....

    So gird your loins lefties. In Nick We Trust.

    You around for breakfast/coffee tomorrow?

    I'm in St Paul de Vence for dinner tonight, but taking a chairman's flight back so have a free morning in Nice
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    edited March 2015
    Scott_P said:

    @CCHQPress: .@Ed_Miliband's only road to power is a SNP deal-Alex Salmond's named his price & taxpayers will foot the bill #chaos http://t.co/lgM0FEMfpG

    When I saw who you were copying and pasting I thought it might say 'Ed Miliband picks his nose and eats it'#smells
  • Zayn has left one direction.

    Not a patch on Depeche Mode or any other 1980s synthpop band!
    Can anyone shed any light on why there have been so many synthpop acts that consisted of two individuals of whom one or both were gay men?

    Two-man acts are uncommon to begin with, but it always struck me as plain odd that there were so many of the above:

    Sparks
    Soft Cell
    Yazoo
    Erasure
    Communards
    Pet Shop Boys
    Hall and Oates
    Red Box
    Savage Garden

    etc
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,514
    And Ed's approval ratings is still utterly terrible with most other pollsters.
  • TheWatcherTheWatcher Posts: 5,262

    Zayn has left one direction.

    Not a patch on Depeche Mode or any other 1980s synthpop band!
    Can anyone shed any light on why there have been so many synthpop acts that consisted of two individuals of whom one or both were gay men?

    Two-man acts are uncommon to begin with, but it always struck me as plain odd that there were so many of the above:

    Sparks
    Soft Cell
    Yazoo
    Erasure
    Communards
    Pet Shop Boys
    Hall and Oates
    Red Box
    Savage Garden

    etc
    Hall and Oates?
  • chestnutchestnut Posts: 7,341
    Table 18: Tories more trusted with the NHS than Labour by the over 55s.
  • SimonStClareSimonStClare Posts: 7,976
    edited March 2015

    Zayn has left one direction.

    Two-man acts are uncommon to begin with, but it always struck me as plain odd that there were so many of the above:

    Sparks
    Soft Cell
    Yazoo
    Erasure
    Communards
    Pet Shop Boys
    Hall and Oates
    Red Box
    Savage Garden

    etc
    Yazoo?

    A bit harsh Mr Bond - Alison Moyet may have been a big girl, but she was all woman. :)
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @LabourList: Nearly three-fifths of voters would be "dismayed" by a Labour/SNP deal, poll finds http://labli.st/1OyXRoi
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,411
    This poll question 8,271 voters, 633 of whom were in Scotland. They found that half of former Lib Dem voters and 44% Labour look like they’re switching to the SNP, while the same is true for 1/5 of former Conservatives.

    Those switching figures...
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    Before I forget, need to thank Ed for not only falling into the Tory VAT elephant trap, but for paying out 5/2 on the Betfair question market
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    Scott_P said:

    Before I forget, need to thank Ed for not only falling into the Tory VAT elephant trap, but for paying out 5/2 on the Betfair question market

    When do I have to thank you re Farage not appearing in a debate?

    'Youll be thanking me when Farage isn't in the debates' you said when you welched
  • Ishmael_XIshmael_X Posts: 3,664
    Pulpstar said:

    So when it is rounded as usual, Lab and Con are level.....
    It's tighter than a duck's arse at the moment.
    It's relatively unspooky. If crossover is the transition from sustained, day in-day out Lab leads to sustained, day in-day out Con leads, it's what we would rather expect to see in the transition period. All will be clear in hindsight.
  • MikeSmithsonMikeSmithson Posts: 7,382

    And Ed's approval ratings is still utterly terrible with most other pollsters.
    The ONLY other pollster that does approval ratings is Opinium and there has been some movement there over the past few weeks. Cameron is positive there as well


    All other pollsters have different forms of leader ratings but not approval ones.

  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,411
    1,035,528 * 0.44
    465,471 * .5
    412,855 * .2 +
    ---------------

    806k new SNP voters that voted last time that lot implies.

    If their own retention is 95% say then that implies they are getting half the vote.



  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 33,712
    Plato said:

    I haven't bitten someone since I was 4yrs old!

    JEO said:

    dr_spyn said:

    Paul Waugh ‏@paulwaugh 2m2 minutes ago
    .@GuidoFawkes rightly points out Mark Thompson bit a colleague + ended up becoming BBC DG. That too was 'unprovoked' http://www.standard.co.uk/news/the-day-i-was-bitten-by-bbc-boss-7086208.html

    That's incredible. The BBC have no leg to stand on for kicking out Clarkson on a punch but promoting someone after a bite. A bite is a lot worse.
    Wasn't at full moon was it?
  • RogerRoger Posts: 19,975
    edited March 2015
    Charles

    "You around for breakfast/coffee tomorrow?"

    What a shame. I'm not there. I was booked to be this week but had to cancel. Nothing I would have liked more than breakfast on the terrace of the Negresco.

  • Yesterday Cameron was savaged by pensioners, today Bullingdon man was in full braying mode helped by a negligent speaker and cohorts of Tory patsies. However everyone is entitled to a swansong bye bye Cameron, going, going, soon to be gone.

    The trend is all going one way and its not to labour. After today and with the SNP influence on labour highlighted daily the odds on a small conservative majority will show in the betting shortly
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    isam said:

    you welched

    That's a strong allegation to hurl on a betting site, and completely false.

    Please withdraw
  • david_herdsondavid_herdson Posts: 17,834

    So when it is rounded as usual, Lab and Con are level.....
    Correct.

    Given the tightness of the race I do like see shares down to a decimal point. Often rounding can give distorted view.

    Are figures to 1dp meaningful though when the MoE is ±3%?
  • MikeSmithsonMikeSmithson Posts: 7,382
    Ishmael_X said:

    Pulpstar said:

    So when it is rounded as usual, Lab and Con are level.....
    It's tighter than a duck's arse at the moment.
    It's relatively unspooky. If crossover is the transition from sustained, day in-day out Lab leads to sustained, day in-day out Con leads, it's what we would rather expect to see in the transition period. All will be clear in hindsight.
    This past fortnight has seen the phone pollsters (ICM, Ashcroft Comres) moving back from fairly good CON positions while the online firms have moved from LAB leads.

  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,411
    Might sound like a daft question - but is the SNP retaining all it's vote from last time ?

    I suspect a couple of tartan Tories might have joined the real Tories but it's just a hunch.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 19,975
    Dr Spyn

    This one is but the Local Hero ones were a series. They ended up using an 'Officer and a Gentleman'

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWG43VGvuCc&feature=youtu.beyn
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    Roger said:

    Charles

    "You around for breakfast/coffee tomorrow?"

    What a shame. I'm not there. I was booked to be this week but had to cancel. Nothing I would have liked more than breakfast on the terrace of the Negresco.

    No problem - in this part of the world 4 or 5 times a year (usually day trips) but will try to give you more notice next time!
  • RogerRoger Posts: 19,975
    edited March 2015
    Charles

    A long shot but your wife didn't spend two weeks at the Institute de francais in Villefranche ever?
  • NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 21,568
    Roger said:

    Everyone seems to be waiting uneasily for the Tories to pull ahead. The antidote to that slightly depressing thought is Nick P. Who better to judge the state of play than Nick an ex and future MP who's been there and done it....

    So gird your loins lefties. In Nick We Trust.

    Yep. It's a tie. It's been a tie for months, occasionally with one or the other pulling fractionally ahead, then falling back. All kinds of game-winning wheezes and media offensives have already happened, with no visible effect.

    Labour wins easily on a tie. And there are just 6 weeks to go.
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    Scott_P said:

    isam said:

    you welched

    That's a strong allegation to hurl on a betting site, and completely false.

    Please withdraw
    Oooh fierce!!!

    Sorry welching implies you knocked which you didn't, you ran around making excuses not to take a bet you said was certain to lose while massively giving it the big one

    A pre emptor for Cameron's behaviour re the debates

    Just admit you got it wrong and I'll never mention it again
  • SMukeshSMukesh Posts: 1,759
    Ed Balls deftly avoiding the Tory tax trap.

    And that's why Labour needed him rather than the idiot Darling.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 19,975
    edited March 2015
    Dr Spyn. I really don't want to turn into SeanT but this is one of the series. You get the idea. They were all heroic and Scottish and would have been better with 'local Hero'

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIIFcBfnSJE&feature=youtu.be

  • MonikerDiCanioMonikerDiCanio Posts: 5,792

    Roger said:

    Everyone seems to be waiting uneasily for the Tories to pull ahead. The antidote to that slightly depressing thought is Nick P. Who better to judge the state of play than Nick an ex and future MP who's been there and done it....

    So gird your loins lefties. In Nick We Trust.

    Yep. It's a tie. It's been a tie for months, occasionally with one or the other pulling fractionally ahead, then falling back. All kinds of game-winning wheezes and media offensives have already happened, with no visible effect.

    Labour wins easily on a tie. And there are just 6 weeks to go.
    6 weeks is a very long time in politics.
  • Roger said:

    Everyone seems to be waiting uneasily for the Tories to pull ahead. The antidote to that slightly depressing thought is Nick P. Who better to judge the state of play than Nick an ex and future MP who's been there and done it....

    So gird your loins lefties. In Nick We Trust.

    Yep. It's a tie. It's been a tie for months, occasionally with one or the other pulling fractionally ahead, then falling back. All kinds of game-winning wheezes and media offensives have already happened, with no visible effect.

    Labour wins easily on a tie. And there are just 6 weeks to go.

    Roger said:

    Everyone seems to be waiting uneasily for the Tories to pull ahead. The antidote to that slightly depressing thought is Nick P. Who better to judge the state of play than Nick an ex and future MP who's been there and done it....

    So gird your loins lefties. In Nick We Trust.

    Yep. It's a tie. It's been a tie for months, occasionally with one or the other pulling fractionally ahead, then falling back. All kinds of game-winning wheezes and media offensives have already happened, with no visible effect.

    Labour wins easily on a tie. And there are just 6 weeks to go.
    After today's car crash by EM it not likely to be a tie much longer
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