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  • Mr. SE, I usually go for the super saver delivery. Just makes sense not to pay needlessly.

    Mr. M, indeed.
  • Mr. England, King's Landing*.

    Also, please do avoid spoilers.

    I know MD, only kidding, and of course no spoilers.

    My wife loves Game of Thrones, quite ironic the new series starts on her birthday. At least I won't have to take her out, she wouldn't miss it for the world.
  • Mr. England, ah, my apologies. Can be hard to tell online.

    Your wife is evidently a woman of exquisite taste.
  • GrandioseGrandiose Posts: 2,323
    edited February 2015

    Mr. England, King's Landing*.

    Also, please do avoid spoilers.

    I'm on S4E1... and on #teamtywin... if he makes it to series 5...

    Either way, they (by which I mean Buzzfeed) should allow you to translate your GoT allegience into who to vote for.

    Ned Stark = Nick Clegg/Lib Dem
    Tywin Lannister = Teresa May/Tory
    Daenerys = Natalie Bennett/Green

    etc.

    Joffrey = [insert your own choice here!]
  • EPGEPG Posts: 6,653
    dr_spyn said:

    Had two very different leaflets from LDs on Friday and Saturday in the post. Friday's was addressed to my wife.

    "Lib Dems fighting to make things fairer. Remember Labour's Record" - "Nearly bankrupted Britain, Locked up Child Migrants. Hiked taxes for the low paid. Middle East still in crisis after Iraq War."

    Lib Dems trying to encourage my wife to vote LD and not wander off to vote Labour.

    On Saturday I had something very different.

    "I'm afraid there's no money left ...would you REALLY risk letting this happen again?"

    Has highly unflattering photos of The Two Eds.

    If Labour Win in May the Economy will be at risk ...only a Lib Dem vote will deliver a stronger economy."

    Lib Dems trying to get me to vote for them to keep Labour out. But can the Yellow Peril be trusted by right of centre voters not to work with Labour? My leaflet implies that the real enemy are Labour, and to keep them out, I should back them.

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't both leaflets imply the real enemy is Labour.
  • Mr. England, ah, my apologies. Can be hard to tell online.

    Your wife is evidently a woman of exquisite taste.

    I find the sex scenes over the top and unnecessary..

    He lied.
  • GeoffMGeoffM Posts: 6,071

    Good evening, everyone.

    Rather enjoyed Top Gear tonight. Margot Robbie is delightful.

    In more important news, the second episode of Zodiac Eclipse is now up, and can be read here: http://www.kraxon.com/zodiac-eclipse-distress/

    Very good so far, Mr Dancer
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    Just spotted this story:

    Government spent half a million quid of Indy Ref polling and shared top-line figures with Better Together.

    http://www.sundaypost.com/news-views/politics/uk-government-has-spent-11k-on-secret-opinion-polls-in-scotland-1.839032

    Where does that sit in campaign spending?
  • Mr. England, I'm amused at the concept of a 'necessary' sex scene :p

    Mr. M, cheers. Bit of a challenge writing 12 parts, each with a thousand word limit and forming self-contained episodes which also create an over-arching plot, but I think it worked out quite well. Also nice after a very quiet 2014 (publishing-wise) to have tons of little stories and a few big ones due this year.

    Mr. Grandiose, you may enjoy this picture comparing Game of Thrones characters to presidential wannabes of recent times (NB spoilers for the first season or two, I think): https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bn16soHIYAA-HW3.jpg:large
  • Sean_F said:

    For all the talk of UKIP slipping back, they actually look pretty steady
    Well, they've had two consecutive 0.6% weekly falls.
    I've been struck by how resilient the UKIP vote has been. Bar MORI, they've polled 13-16% this week, which means 15-17% in England. And, in the campaign, they'll be treated as a major party.
    In fact this week's ELBOW score for UKIP, 14.2% is their lowest since 5th October.
  • EPGEPG Posts: 6,653
    Alistair said:

    Just spotted this story:

    Government spent half a million quid of Indy Ref polling and shared top-line figures with Better Together.

    http://www.sundaypost.com/news-views/politics/uk-government-has-spent-11k-on-secret-opinion-polls-in-scotland-1.839032

    Where does that sit in campaign spending?

    As is very clear from the name of the article, they spent just over one per cent of a million quid, not half.
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    EPG said:

    Alistair said:

    Just spotted this story:

    Government spent half a million quid of Indy Ref polling and shared top-line figures with Better Together.

    http://www.sundaypost.com/news-views/politics/uk-government-has-spent-11k-on-secret-opinion-polls-in-scotland-1.839032

    Where does that sit in campaign spending?

    As is very clear from the name of the article, they spent just over one per cent of a million quid, not half.
    Someone didn't read the article. They've spent £11k on Scottish General election polling - they spent £537,000 on Indyref polling.
  • GrandioseGrandiose Posts: 2,323
    In other news you can get 4/1 on Ireland, perhaps better. They have done well recently, admittedly against relatively poor opposition, but they're well drilled. WI have been off the boil and practically guaranteed to put in and England style performance - good in patches,, but never inspiring much confidence.

    Plus an all-pace Windies attack...
  • dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,300
    EPG said:

    dr_spyn said:

    Had two very different leaflets from LDs on Friday and Saturday in the post. Friday's was addressed to my wife.

    "Lib Dems fighting to make things fairer. Remember Labour's Record" - "Nearly bankrupted Britain, Locked up Child Migrants. Hiked taxes for the low paid. Middle East still in crisis after Iraq War."

    Lib Dems trying to encourage my wife to vote LD and not wander off to vote Labour.

    On Saturday I had something very different.

    "I'm afraid there's no money left ...would you REALLY risk letting this happen again?"

    Has highly unflattering photos of The Two Eds.

    If Labour Win in May the Economy will be at risk ...only a Lib Dem vote will deliver a stronger economy."

    Lib Dems trying to get me to vote for them to keep Labour out. But can the Yellow Peril be trusted by right of centre voters not to work with Labour? My leaflet implies that the real enemy are Labour, and to keep them out, I should back them.

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't both leaflets imply the real enemy is Labour.
    Would agree, typed too quickly. This was sent from LDs from London. Would be interested to know what voters in Bristol NW would get, given that Tories are the incumbents.


  • TheWatcherTheWatcher Posts: 5,262
    Alistair said:

    EPG said:

    Alistair said:

    Just spotted this story:

    Government spent half a million quid of Indy Ref polling and shared top-line figures with Better Together.

    http://www.sundaypost.com/news-views/politics/uk-government-has-spent-11k-on-secret-opinion-polls-in-scotland-1.839032

    Where does that sit in campaign spending?

    As is very clear from the name of the article, they spent just over one per cent of a million quid, not half.
    Someone didn't read the article. They've spent £11k on Scottish General election polling - they spent £537,000 on Indyref polling.
    Just imagine how many golf jollies Eck could have enjoyed with that money.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,736

    Lab lead 1.5%


    That has been about the average lead since October hasn't it?
    Since the end of October, it's been 1.4% on average
    I think Rod Crosby predicted it would stay the same and that there would definitely be no January crossover.

    Or I might be confusing him with me.
  • GrandioseGrandiose Posts: 2,323
    Alistair said:

    EPG said:

    Alistair said:

    Just spotted this story:

    Government spent half a million quid of Indy Ref polling and shared top-line figures with Better Together.

    http://www.sundaypost.com/news-views/politics/uk-government-has-spent-11k-on-secret-opinion-polls-in-scotland-1.839032

    Where does that sit in campaign spending?

    As is very clear from the name of the article, they spent just over one per cent of a million quid, not half.
    Someone didn't read the article. They've spent £11k on Scottish General election polling - they spent £537,000 on Indyref polling.
    Difficult to judge from the article whether the £500,000 was legitimately spent, to be honest.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 28,848
    Alistair said:

    EPG said:

    Alistair said:

    Just spotted this story:

    Government spent half a million quid of Indy Ref polling and shared top-line figures with Better Together.

    http://www.sundaypost.com/news-views/politics/uk-government-has-spent-11k-on-secret-opinion-polls-in-scotland-1.839032

    Where does that sit in campaign spending?

    As is very clear from the name of the article, they spent just over one per cent of a million quid, not half.
    Someone didn't read the article. They've spent £11k on Scottish General election polling - they spent £537,000 on Indyref polling.
    So how much was spent on the Year of Homecoming campaign, and how much was spent on the Bannockburn anniversary celebrations? Your side had all the levers of Government at its disposal, and Salmond pulled them all. You still lost. Get over it.
  • DairDair Posts: 6,108
    Speedy said:

    Pulpstar said:

    SNP more popular to do a deal with than the Lib Dems for Labour.

    Tactically Labour should refuse a coalition with the SNP, anything that reduces the oxygen of power for the SNP is welcome for the SNP's demise.
    By isolating the SNP, national politics gets a preference.

    To put it simply some of the left votes SNP because they think that the SNP cater to their interests in scotland and can keep a Labour government in power nationally, if you sever the possibility of the SNP propping Labour then the voter behavior changes to voting Labour directly in a national election.

    Canada style (NDP-BQ in 2011).
    There is a continued lack of understanding. Labour aren't losing because the SNP if offering a better outcome. Labour are losing because the electorate despises them. The government after the election is not a huge concern for significant amounts of SNP voters.

    Labour are finished. Campaigning is now detrimental to Labour. Just think about that. The act of going out and asking people to vote for them is counter-productive.

    There is no way back when you reach that place.
  • Lab lead 1.5%


    That has been about the average lead since October hasn't it?
    Since the end of October, it's been 1.4% on average
    I think Rod Crosby predicted it would stay the same and that there would definitely be no January crossover.

    Or I might be confusing him with me.
    BJ, what did you make of IDS bringing in the Universal Credit thing well under budget, good news eh?
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,915
    Alistair Sam Gyimah, parliamentary secretary of the Cabinet Office, said the work will, “research into the level of understanding of the devolution settlement in Scotland to improve to public services, monitor efficiency and inform policy development.”
    http://www.sundaypost.com/news-views/politics/uk-government-has-spent-11k-on-secret-opinion-polls-in-scotland-1.839032?regType=social&reg_success=true
  • compouter2compouter2 Posts: 2,371
    GIN1138 said:

    I think it should be Mega Polling Monday tomorrow with polls from Populus, The Good Lord Amen, ICM and YouGov!!!!!!

    #megapollingmonday

    .....and no matter what they say, they will be a disaster for Ed Miliband.
  • SmarmeronSmarmeron Posts: 5,099
    @nigel4england
    Fully implemented and under budget.
    Of course, the whole project has been "reset" so which particular budget is he referring too?
    (It has been fully implemented hasn't it?)
  • sladeslade Posts: 2,080
    Just watched the first episode of 'A Casual Vacancy'. Speaking as a parish councillor J.K.Rowling is very
    good at characterising teenage children but is useless at local politics.
  • DairDair Posts: 6,108
    edited February 2015

    MikeK said:

    http://ukipdaily.com/dispose-low-energy-light-bulb/

    A tongue-in-cheek but informative article.

    Idiotic article. CFL bulbs have been replaced by LEDs nowadays which save even more money, last much longer, come on instantly and don't contain mercury.
    Who wouldn't save 90% off their electric lighting bill, which is around 20% of the overall energy bill. OK you save on CO2 as well, but that doesn't have to be your main motivation.
    Modern LED bulbs can even look like the old tungsten bulbs, with led 'filaments'.
    Not to mention LED bulbs provide 6300 Kelvin light colour (pure daylight) which makes an incredible difference to mood.

    The hatred of cheaper modern bulbs really is the best indication of what kind of nutter your average Kipper is.

    Perhaps it is because they spend their lives in the depressing yellow world of old bulbs that leads to Kippers generally pessimistic and woefully ill-informed worldview.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 28,848
    edited February 2015
    Dair said:

    MikeK said:

    http://ukipdaily.com/dispose-low-energy-light-bulb/

    A tongue-in-cheek but informative article.

    Idiotic article. CFL bulbs have been replaced by LEDs nowadays which save even more money, last much longer, come on instantly and don't contain mercury.
    Who wouldn't save 90% off their electric lighting bill, which is around 20% of the overall energy bill. OK you save on CO2 as well, but that doesn't have to be your main motivation.
    Modern LED bulbs can even look like the old tungsten bulbs, with led 'filaments'.
    Not to mention LED bulbs provide 6300 Kelvin light colour (pure daylight) which makes an incredible difference to mood.

    The hatred of cheaper modern bulbs really is the best indication of what kind of nutter your average Kipper is.
    And the willingness on the part of a campaigner against 'the establishment' to turn around and use the mainstream media's memes, generalisations, and smears against a party that really *does* campaign against the establishment is indicative of the sort of spineless pitiable excrement you'll find amongst the ranks of Scottish nationalists. Nothing personal mind.

  • GrandioseGrandiose Posts: 2,323
    Grandiose said:

    In other news you can get 4/1 on Ireland, perhaps better. They have done well recently, admittedly against relatively poor opposition, but they're well drilled. WI have been off the boil and practically guaranteed to put in and England style performance - good in patches,, but never inspiring much confidence.

    Plus an all-pace Windies attack...

    Went out to 6/1 but now in to 11/4, not much value in that.
  • Y0kelY0kel Posts: 2,307
    On a totally unrelated note. I recently watched a Storyville documentary on iPlayer following the brash mayor of the Chinese city of Datong. Completely without voice over commentary, its rather interesting.

    The bit where he is doing a outdoor public speech and the promo music behind him is the theme from The Magnificent Seven felt surreal.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,411

    Nothing personal mind.

    If there's one thing to be said for this forum, it's the sincerity that abounds in each and every post :)
  • SmarmeronSmarmeron Posts: 5,099
    @Pulpstar
    "If there's one thing to be said for this forum, it's the sincerity that abounds in each and every post :)"
    Do you really mean that? :)
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,411
    Smarmeron said:

    @Pulpstar
    "If there's one thing to be said for this forum, it's the sincerity that abounds in each and every post :)"
    Do you really mean that? :)

    Sincerely.
  • slade said:

    Just watched the first episode of 'A Casual Vacancy'. Speaking as a parish councillor J.K.Rowling is very
    good at characterising teenage children but is useless at local politics.

    I remember when my youngest was fourteen I told her to take all her exams while she still knew everything.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,915
    edited February 2015
    slade Will have to catch it on iplayer, was watching 'Indian Summers' on C4
  • Ishmael_XIshmael_X Posts: 3,664
    Dair said:

    MikeK said:

    http://ukipdaily.com/dispose-low-energy-light-bulb/

    A tongue-in-cheek but informative article.

    Idiotic article. CFL bulbs have been replaced by LEDs nowadays which save even more money, last much longer, come on instantly and don't contain mercury.
    Who wouldn't save 90% off their electric lighting bill, which is around 20% of the overall energy bill. OK you save on CO2 as well, but that doesn't have to be your main motivation.
    Modern LED bulbs can even look like the old tungsten bulbs, with led 'filaments'.
    Not to mention LED bulbs provide 6300 Kelvin light colour (pure daylight) which makes an incredible difference to mood.

    The hatred of cheaper modern bulbs really is the best indication of what kind of nutter your average Kipper is.

    Perhaps it is because they spend their lives in the depressing yellow world of old bulbs that leads to Kippers generally pessimistic and woefully ill-informed worldview.
    If you think modern bulbs are "cheaper" that is because your mum does the shopping.

  • nigel4englandnigel4england Posts: 4,800
    edited February 2015
    Shall we run a book as to when Tykejohnno will surface, presumably after he has sobered up!

    I'm going for Monday early evening.
  • FlightpathFlightpath Posts: 4,012
    edited February 2015



    And hold the front page - owning up to the best prospect of a Labour minority govt, Socialist candidate says it would be wrong to vote it down.

    Interesting that you interpreted my comment on the LibDem choices as only relating to a Labour minority government. Have you given up on a Tory one? Perhaps you're right. :-)

    My impression from scattered reports is that Tory commitment is varying a good deal - some are working very hard, others not a lot. Tory sources say that several marginal MPs have been told that there will be a haven for them in the Lords if necessary - not sure if that's motivating them to try harder (so as to make sure of favour) or to relax.
    You are the labour candidate. My surprise is at the assertion that the state of the country would dissuade voting against any minority govt. The economic progress of the government has been sound given its inheritance.
    BTW real growth in incomes is projected at 3.5% the best for 10 years. I hope you will be mentioning that on the doorstep
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758



    Charles said:

    MP_SE said:

    Interesting to see Tory voters would prefer a coalition with the Lib Dems instead of UKIP. Any ideas as to why this is? The Lib Dems are on the completely opposite end of the political spectrum.

    Because those people who still support the Tories rather like the Coalition.

    While those who don't like the LibDems have p1ssed off the UKIP
    Its interesting don't you think that, in the run up to the election, the BBC chooses to serialise a novel ("more than 500 pages of relentless socialist manifesto masquerading as literature") by a millionaire Labour donor who despises the coalition.
    Are you talking about Wolf Hall?

    I haven't noticed much socialist about it: Cromwell is the archetypal boy made good through his own efforts.
  • SmarmeronSmarmeron Posts: 5,099
    @Ishmael_X
    Bulbs are like investment in factories.
    You can do it the Chinese way, and invest in more modern and efficient plant, expensive to buy, but cheaper to run
    or,
    The British way, just do it on the cheap and worry about running costs later.
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    Smarmeron said:

    @Charles
    You would wonder why HSBC felt the need to apologise in the British press over just one count of wrongdoing.?...
    But it does show how upright and honest our wealthy are, compared to "Johnny Foreigner" old chap.
    Glad you cleared it all up for me.

    Because brand has nothing to do with right and wrong.

    And I haven't made any statements about anyone, whether British or another nationality, being upright and honest.

    All I said was that there isn't sufficient evidence to prosecute / to outweigh a decision to go for a settlement.

    If Parliament wants HMRC to prosecute all cases rather than accept settlements they are absolutely at liberty to change their targets. But I wouldn't be surprised if less money was raised as a result.
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    Sean_F said:

    Good evening, everyone.

    Rather enjoyed Top Gear tonight. Margot Robbie is delightful.

    In more important news, the second episode of Zodiac Eclipse is now up, and can be read here: http://www.kraxon.com/zodiac-eclipse-distress/

    Season 4 of Game of Thrones comes out on DVD tomorrow.
    Amazon's already dispatched mine :)
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    Grandiose said:

    Mr. England, King's Landing*.

    Also, please do avoid spoilers.

    I'm on S4E1... and on #teamtywin... if he makes it to series 5...

    Either way, they (by which I mean Buzzfeed) should allow you to translate your GoT allegience into who to vote for.

    Ned Stark = Nick Clegg/Lib Dem
    Tywin Lannister = Teresa May/Tory
    Daenerys = Natalie Bennett/Green

    etc.

    Joffrey = [insert your own choice here!]
    Misspelling Ms. May's name can lead to all sorts of unexpected outcomes
  • SmarmeronSmarmeron Posts: 5,099
    @Charles
    Well, the French had fewer names with less money in the accounts than the UK, but recovered more.
    Might it not be worth looking to how they managed it?
  • FlightpathFlightpath Posts: 4,012
    Charles said:



    Charles said:

    MP_SE said:

    Interesting to see Tory voters would prefer a coalition with the Lib Dems instead of UKIP. Any ideas as to why this is? The Lib Dems are on the completely opposite end of the political spectrum.

    Because those people who still support the Tories rather like the Coalition.

    While those who don't like the LibDems have p1ssed off the UKIP
    Its interesting don't you think that, in the run up to the election, the BBC chooses to serialise a novel ("more than 500 pages of relentless socialist manifesto masquerading as literature") by a millionaire Labour donor who despises the coalition.
    Are you talking about Wolf Hall?

    I haven't noticed much socialist about it: Cromwell is the archetypal boy made good through his own efforts.
    No. The millionaire labour donor is almost a billionaire. I'm sure she has paid her taxes.
  • DairDair Posts: 6,108
    Ishmael_X said:

    Dair said:

    MikeK said:

    http://ukipdaily.com/dispose-low-energy-light-bulb/

    A tongue-in-cheek but informative article.

    Idiotic article. CFL bulbs have been replaced by LEDs nowadays which save even more money, last much longer, come on instantly and don't contain mercury.
    Who wouldn't save 90% off their electric lighting bill, which is around 20% of the overall energy bill. OK you save on CO2 as well, but that doesn't have to be your main motivation.
    Modern LED bulbs can even look like the old tungsten bulbs, with led 'filaments'.
    Not to mention LED bulbs provide 6300 Kelvin light colour (pure daylight) which makes an incredible difference to mood.

    The hatred of cheaper modern bulbs really is the best indication of what kind of nutter your average Kipper is.

    Perhaps it is because they spend their lives in the depressing yellow world of old bulbs that leads to Kippers generally pessimistic and woefully ill-informed worldview.
    If you think modern bulbs are "cheaper" that is because your mum does the shopping.

    I switched over to lo-energy bulbs about 15 years ago. Two of them are still the same bulb as when I switched. I think a couple of quid for a bulb that lasts 4 to 5 years in general use, compared to the pound for a 3 to 6 month filament bulb is a bargain.

    And as I said, you can get 6300 Kelvin bulbs which are amazing. Why anyone doesn't have these tends to amaze me.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,386

    Shall we run a book as to when Tykejohnno will surface, presumably after he has sobered up!

    I'm going for Monday early evening.

    What's Tyke been up to?

  • CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 25,326
    Last month in Paris. This month in Copenhagen. People are being killed simply for being Jews. In Europe. In 2015.

    Jewish graves are being desecrated. Those who speak out are being put on death lists. Carnivals are being cancelled because of death threats.

    This is shameful. It is intolerable. We cannot live like this.

  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    Pulpstar said:

    Smarmeron said:

    @Pulpstar
    "If there's one thing to be said for this forum, it's the sincerity that abounds in each and every post :)"
    Do you really mean that? :)

    Sincerely.
    Always be sincere, even when you don't mean it.

    (advice given to the reluctant cannibal by his father)
  • Charles said:



    Charles said:

    MP_SE said:

    Interesting to see Tory voters would prefer a coalition with the Lib Dems instead of UKIP. Any ideas as to why this is? The Lib Dems are on the completely opposite end of the political spectrum.

    Because those people who still support the Tories rather like the Coalition.

    While those who don't like the LibDems have p1ssed off the UKIP
    Its interesting don't you think that, in the run up to the election, the BBC chooses to serialise a novel ("more than 500 pages of relentless socialist manifesto masquerading as literature") by a millionaire Labour donor who despises the coalition.
    Are you talking about Wolf Hall?

    I haven't noticed much socialist about it: Cromwell is the archetypal boy made good through his own efforts.
    No. The millionaire labour donor is almost a billionaire. I'm sure she has paid her taxes.

    Charles said:



    Charles said:

    MP_SE said:

    Interesting to see Tory voters would prefer a coalition with the Lib Dems instead of UKIP. Any ideas as to why this is? The Lib Dems are on the completely opposite end of the political spectrum.

    Because those people who still support the Tories rather like the Coalition.

    While those who don't like the LibDems have p1ssed off the UKIP
    Its interesting don't you think that, in the run up to the election, the BBC chooses to serialise a novel ("more than 500 pages of relentless socialist manifesto masquerading as literature") by a millionaire Labour donor who despises the coalition.
    Are you talking about Wolf Hall?

    I haven't noticed much socialist about it: Cromwell is the archetypal boy made good through his own efforts.
    No. The millionaire labour donor is almost a billionaire. I'm sure she has paid her taxes.
    The plagiarist?
  • GrandioseGrandiose Posts: 2,323
    Charles said:

    Grandiose said:

    Mr. England, King's Landing*.

    Also, please do avoid spoilers.

    I'm on S4E1... and on #teamtywin... if he makes it to series 5...

    Either way, they (by which I mean Buzzfeed) should allow you to translate your GoT allegience into who to vote for.

    Ned Stark = Nick Clegg/Lib Dem
    Tywin Lannister = Teresa May/Tory
    Daenerys = Natalie Bennett/Green

    etc.

    Joffrey = [insert your own choice here!]
    Misspelling Ms. May's name can lead to all sorts of unexpected outcomes
    You know, I looked at that... I recalled the "other" T[h]eresa's profession, and still pressed post.

    Urgh.
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    Smarmeron said:

    @Charles
    Well, the French had fewer names with less money in the accounts than the UK, but recovered more.
    Might it not be worth looking to how they managed it?

    Most likely a higher percentage of the French individuals were evading taxes.

    Just the mere fact of having a Swiss bank account doesn't mean that any wrongdoing has occurred.
  • FlightpathFlightpath Posts: 4,012
    Smarmeron said:

    @Ishmael_X
    Bulbs are like investment in factories.
    You can do it the Chinese way, and invest in more modern and efficient plant, expensive to buy, but cheaper to run
    or,
    The British way, just do it on the cheap and worry about running costs later.

    Has the investment in UK car factories been done on the cheap?
  • SmarmeronSmarmeron Posts: 5,099
    @Dair
    6,500K bulbs produce a white light that while great for some things, is also harsh and "cold" in a lounge.
    2,700k bulbs give a warmer and softer feel, and those in between are the in the realms of House and Home.
  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 9,928
    Sean_F said:

    Sean_F said:

    For all the talk of UKIP slipping back, they actually look pretty steady
    Well, they've had two consecutive 0.6% weekly falls.
    I've been struck by how resilient the UKIP vote has been. Bar MORI, they've polled 13-16% this week, which means 15-17% in England. And, in the campaign, they'll be treated as a major party.
    If I were a Kipper, I'd be pretty happy.

    For a start, UKIP are streets ahead of where most people thought they would be by now. And they can hope to improve nearer the election when they will quite naturally be more in the public eye. For the moment they're going through a quiet spell, but they've had no major problems, yet have dropped back very little.
    12 months ago, I'd have expected UKIP to be polling below 10% at this point.
    So would I. However given how politics light most people are, many will feel they are still getting to know Ukip.
  • FlightpathFlightpath Posts: 4,012
    slade said:

    Just watched the first episode of 'A Casual Vacancy'. Speaking as a parish councillor J.K.Rowling is very
    good at characterising teenage children but is useless at local politics.

    But equally Eastenders is not realism, and the script was written by an Eastenders writer. Let's face it the prejudices she displays are nothing to do with local politics.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,411
    Electionsetc forecasts Carmichael losing his seat !
  • Dair said:

    MikeK said:

    http://ukipdaily.com/dispose-low-energy-light-bulb/

    A tongue-in-cheek but informative article.

    Idiotic article. CFL bulbs have been replaced by LEDs nowadays which save even more money, last much longer, come on instantly and don't contain mercury.
    Who wouldn't save 90% off their electric lighting bill, which is around 20% of the overall energy bill. OK you save on CO2 as well, but that doesn't have to be your main motivation.
    Modern LED bulbs can even look like the old tungsten bulbs, with led 'filaments'.
    Not to mention LED bulbs provide 6300 Kelvin light colour (pure daylight) which makes an incredible difference to mood.

    The hatred of cheaper modern bulbs really is the best indication of what kind of nutter your average Kipper is.
    And the willingness on the part of a campaigner against 'the establishment' to turn around and use the mainstream media's memes, generalisations, and smears against a party that really *does* campaign against the establishment is indicative of the sort of spineless pitiable excrement you'll find amongst the ranks of Scottish nationalists. Nothing personal mind.

    You support a party irrelevant to the country in which you choose to live; get over it.
  • GrandioseGrandiose Posts: 2,323
    Grandiose said:



    Grandiose said:

    In other news you can get 4/1 on Ireland, perhaps better. They have done well recently, admittedly against relatively poor opposition, but they're well drilled. WI have been off the boil and practically guaranteed to put in and England style performance - good in patches,, but never inspiring much confidence.

    Plus an all-pace Windies attack...

    Went out to 6/1 but now in to 11/4, not much value in that.
    IRELAND NOW EVENS

    Phew, always get worried tipping... although I didn't put my money where my mouth is alas.
  • GIN1138 said:

    Shall we run a book as to when Tykejohnno will surface, presumably after he has sobered up!

    I'm going for Monday early evening.

    What's Tyke been up to?

    His beloved Bradford are now in the quarter finals of the FA Cup.

    It's 30 years this May since the terrible tragedy of the fire, how poignant would it be if they were to win the Cup in May? Dare we dream?
  • SmarmeronSmarmeron Posts: 5,099
    @Charles
    It would appear there was far less tax evasion here than in almost every other civilized country.
    I have heard it said that the UK was only narrowly beaten to the "Most Honest" title by Panama.
  • GrandioseGrandiose Posts: 2,323
    Smarmeron said:

    @Charles
    It would appear there was far less tax evasion here than in almost every other civilized country.
    I have heard it said that the UK was only narrowly beaten to the "Most Honest" title by Panama.

    Of course, Ed Balls gives a receipt to everyone who cuts his hedges...
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 28,848
    Charles said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Smarmeron said:

    @Pulpstar
    "If there's one thing to be said for this forum, it's the sincerity that abounds in each and every post :)"
    Do you really mean that? :)

    Sincerely.
    Always be sincere, even when you don't mean it.

    (advice given to the reluctant cannibal by his father)
    Charles said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Smarmeron said:

    @Pulpstar
    "If there's one thing to be said for this forum, it's the sincerity that abounds in each and every post :)"
    Do you really mean that? :)

    Sincerely.
    Always be sincere, even when you don't mean it.

    (advice given to the reluctant cannibal by his father)
    “Sincerity - if you can fake that, you've got it made.”
    George Burns -brilliant quote
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,386

    GIN1138 said:

    Shall we run a book as to when Tykejohnno will surface, presumably after he has sobered up!

    I'm going for Monday early evening.

    What's Tyke been up to?

    His beloved Bradford are now in the quarter finals of the FA Cup.

    It's 30 years this May since the terrible tragedy of the fire, how poignant would it be if they were to win the Cup in May? Dare we dream?
    I see.

  • DairDair Posts: 6,108
    Smarmeron said:

    @Charles
    It would appear there was far less tax evasion here than in almost every other civilized country.
    I have heard it said that the UK was only narrowly beaten to the "Most Honest" title by Panama.

    One could argue that Tax Evasion is completely unnecessary when the jurisdiction makes it so easy and profitable to practice wholesale Tax Avoidance.
  • SmarmeronSmarmeron Posts: 5,099
    @Grandiose
    You noticed that little gem as well?
    It's almost as if this tax thing was on his mind for some time.
  • fitalassfitalass Posts: 4,320
    FPT. @surbiton 'It is the women of Britain who will put Ed in No.10'

    I predict the opposite will actually happen at the next GE, and that its the women of Britain who will make sure that Ed Miliband does not become PM.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,411
    What on earth has happened to the Windies !
  • GrandioseGrandiose Posts: 2,323
    Smarmeron said:

    @Grandiose
    You noticed that little gem as well?
    It's almost as if this tax thing was on his mind for some time.

    It came across as very strange though.

    In terms of "was Balls prepared for tax transparency?", yes, probably; but it shows what a dilemma politicians face. Act like normal people and be accused of hypocrisy or wrongdoing, or look out of touch.
  • Dair said:

    Smarmeron said:

    @Charles
    It would appear there was far less tax evasion here than in almost every other civilized country.
    I have heard it said that the UK was only narrowly beaten to the "Most Honest" title by Panama.

    One could argue that Tax Evasion is completely unnecessary when the jurisdiction makes it so easy and profitable to practice wholesale Tax Avoidance.
    One could also argue that if the tax rate was much lower these people would not feel inclined to take these measures, and who knows we may even raise more money.

    Or is the idea not to maximize revenue but punish the rich?
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 28,848

    Dair said:

    MikeK said:

    http://ukipdaily.com/dispose-low-energy-light-bulb/

    A tongue-in-cheek but informative article.

    Idiotic article. CFL bulbs have been replaced by LEDs nowadays which save even more money, last much longer, come on instantly and don't contain mercury.
    Who wouldn't save 90% off their electric lighting bill, which is around 20% of the overall energy bill. OK you save on CO2 as well, but that doesn't have to be your main motivation.
    Modern LED bulbs can even look like the old tungsten bulbs, with led 'filaments'.
    Not to mention LED bulbs provide 6300 Kelvin light colour (pure daylight) which makes an incredible difference to mood.

    The hatred of cheaper modern bulbs really is the best indication of what kind of nutter your average Kipper is.
    And the willingness on the part of a campaigner against 'the establishment' to turn around and use the mainstream media's memes, generalisations, and smears against a party that really *does* campaign against the establishment is indicative of the sort of spineless pitiable excrement you'll find amongst the ranks of Scottish nationalists. Nothing personal mind.

    You support a party irrelevant to the country in which you choose to live; get over it.
    You support a party that lost it's grab for phoney 'independence', let's hope people see differently when given the option of the genuine independence that you want to deny them.
  • GrandioseGrandiose Posts: 2,323
    edited February 2015
    Pulpstar said:

    What on earth has happened to the Windies !

    Obviously they wanted to punish me for tipping Ireland but not actually backing them myself!

    In from 4/1 to 8/11... (90 for 5 as I type)
  • SmarmeronSmarmeron Posts: 5,099
    @Grandiose
    Yes the strangeness of the comment did stand out. So it was an inadvertent statement of "obsessiveness", or something he said on purpose.
    Who knows?
  • DairDair Posts: 6,108

    Dair said:

    Smarmeron said:

    @Charles
    It would appear there was far less tax evasion here than in almost every other civilized country.
    I have heard it said that the UK was only narrowly beaten to the "Most Honest" title by Panama.

    One could argue that Tax Evasion is completely unnecessary when the jurisdiction makes it so easy and profitable to practice wholesale Tax Avoidance.
    One could also argue that if the tax rate was much lower these people would not feel inclined to take these measures, and who knows we may even raise more money.

    Or is the idea not to maximize revenue but punish the rich?
    That is one of the core problem of the left wing nutters. They see tax as a punishment instead of legal theft. The drop to 45% has now been confirmed to have raised revenue, as pretty much anyone who isn't a left wing loon predicted.
  • Grandiose said:

    Pulpstar said:

    What on earth has happened to the Windies !

    Obviously they wanted to punish me for tipping Ireland but not actually backing them myself!

    In from 4/1 to 8/11... (90 for 5 as I type)
    Have laid Ireland at that price
  • SmarmeronSmarmeron Posts: 5,099
    It just seems to keep getting worse?
    (not a prejudgement, just an observation on the allegations into child abuse)

    "MI5 accused of covering up sexual abuse at boys’ home "
    http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/feb/15/mi5-kincora-childrens-home-northwen-ireland-sexual-abuse
  • Smarmeron said:

    It just seems to keep getting worse?
    (not a prejudgement, just an observation on the allegations into child abuse)

    "MI5 accused of covering up sexual abuse at boys’ home "
    http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/feb/15/mi5-kincora-childrens-home-northwen-ireland-sexual-abuse

    That has been obvious for some time, the likes of Saville with his royal connections and various high ranking MPs must have been spooked.

    I have said it before and will say it again, if it ever becomes public knowledge what our intelligence services have allowed to go on there really will be a public outcry.
  • SmarmeronSmarmeron Posts: 5,099
    edited February 2015
    @nigel4england

    This line is particularly scary, and not because of the M. Thatcher reference, but because
    it reads like something from fiction.

    "Among the first to accuse the Ministry of Defence and MI5 of a cover-up was the former army information officer Wallace, who was himself the victim of dirty tricks, and subsequently left the MoD.

    In 1980, as more people began to take notice of his claims about Kincora, Wallace was arrested and convicted of manslaughter. He spent six years in jail amid suggestions he had been framed. His conviction for manslaughter was quashed in 1996 in the light of fresh forensic evidence and shortcomings at his trial. In 1990, Margaret Thatcher was forced to admit that her government had deceived parliament and the public about Wallace’s role."
  • john_zimsjohn_zims Posts: 3,399
    @slade

    'Just watched the first episode of 'A Casual Vacancy'. Speaking as a parish councillor J.K.Rowling is very
    good at characterising teenage children but is useless at local politics.'

    I would imagine that a lot of people will just watch the first episode.
  • FloaterFloater Posts: 14,207
    Cyclefree said:

    Last month in Paris. This month in Copenhagen. People are being killed simply for being Jews. In Europe. In 2015.

    Jewish graves are being desecrated. Those who speak out are being put on death lists. Carnivals are being cancelled because of death threats.

    This is shameful. It is intolerable. We cannot live like this.

    Agree with the first two points in your last line.

    Spineless politicians mean that this is exactly how we will live.
  • Smarmeron said:

    @nigel4england

    This line is particularly scary, and not because of the M. Thatcher reference, but because
    it reads like something from fiction.

    "Among the first to accuse the Ministry of Defence and MI5 of a cover-up was the former army information officer Wallace, who was himself the victim of dirty tricks, and subsequently left the MoD.

    In 1980, as more people began to take notice of his claims about Kincora, Wallace was arrested and convicted of manslaughter. He spent six years in jail amid suggestions he had been framed. His conviction for manslaughter was quashed in 1996 in the light of fresh forensic evidence and shortcomings at his trial. In 1990, Margaret Thatcher was forced to admit that her government had deceived parliament and the public about Wallace’s role."

    It is absolutely appalling, as you say it reads like something from fiction. But this is the reality of the UK from the 60's until now, and I am not sure the disgusting perpetrators will ever be brought to justice.

    I would vote for anyone who risked their life, which without being dramatic is what they would be doing, to bring this out into the open.

    The Internet is a big help, but even a couple of weeks ago a witness to one scandal died suddenly.
  • SmarmeronSmarmeron Posts: 5,099
    @nigel4england
    We can agree on some things after all? ;)
  • Smarmeron said:

    @nigel4england
    We can agree on some things after all? ;)

    Definitely!

    You will actually find that despite being a Kipper I am not a bad person, I just want us out of the EU and I desperately want to bring back grammar schools so bright working class kids get a chance.

    But above all I want these people brought to justice and for the public to see how rotten our establishment really is.
  • SmarmeronSmarmeron Posts: 5,099
    @nigel4england
    I have never believed that being a member of any party marked someone out as a "bad person"
    It will not of course stop me arguing like hell with you if I think you are wrong.
  • Smarmeron said:

    @nigel4england
    I have never believed that being a member of any party marked someone out as a "bad person"
    It will not of course stop me arguing like hell with you if I think you are wrong.

    Fair enough, look forward to it!
  • Smarmeron said:

    @Ishmael_X
    Bulbs are like investment in factories.
    You can do it the Chinese way, and invest in more modern and efficient plant, expensive to buy, but cheaper to run
    or,
    The British way, just do it on the cheap and worry about running costs later.

    Has the investment in UK car factories been done on the cheap?
    Or by the British?
  • DairDair Posts: 6,108
    Anyone hoping there's any way back for Scottish Labour should consider that their deputy leader can't even persuade her dad to support them.

    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/kezia-dugdale-my-dad-votes-snp-1-3690955
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,411

    Grandiose said:

    Pulpstar said:

    What on earth has happened to the Windies !

    Obviously they wanted to punish me for tipping Ireland but not actually backing them myself!

    In from 4/1 to 8/11... (90 for 5 as I type)
    Have laid Ireland at that price
    Not trading th match because I've got my entire betting bank on the GE, but great lay :)
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,411
    edited February 2015
    Dair said:

    Anyone hoping there's any way back for Scottish Labour should consider that their deputy leader can't even persuade her dad to support them.

    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/kezia-dugdale-my-dad-votes-snp-1-3690955

    I liked the report stating that a Scottish Labour member of the Cumbernauld branch would "probably vote SNP".
  • PAWPAW Posts: 1,074

    Of course, Ed Balls gives a receipt to everyone who cuts his hedges...
    He needs the receipt to claim expenses.

  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,411
    Arf

    I've been blocked on Twitter by .... Dan Hodges !
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,915
    Dair True enough, though we will get a better picture from next year's tax receipts as this year has seen a lot of deferrals to benefit from the lower rate
  • DairDair Posts: 6,108
    Pulpstar said:

    Arf

    I've been blocked on Twitter by .... Dan Hodges !

    I managed to get blocked by WingsScotland but not McTernan. Embarrassing.
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